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Russia, Jeff Sessions

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Saturday, March 4, 2017 10:48 AM

THGRRI


Snicker, SIG you say both. Nothing to see here when it comes to Trumps ties to Russia. Then in many posts in the past two years, there is no reason for people to shit themselves over Russia. Then in a different response to me, you say people should shit themselves over Russia.

That's why the snicker.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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One of the ways I know that Russia is a threat... is because you say they aren't- GSTRING
I just said that they were. Their power is military, and if we leave their borders alone, they will leave us alone.

The Saudi power rests on its support of the petrodollar. They have done more real damage to us than BUT RUSSIA!!! It's time you woke up to that fact.

CHINA'S power is economic, they are the "factory of the world", and they're looking to be a financial power as well.

The person engaging in either-or thinking is you. We live in a world of contending interests. It's time we started paying attention to ours.



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Saturday, March 4, 2017 11:08 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

SECOND, hon do you even read what you write?

Do you ever read what Trump writes? It was a busy morning for the leader of the free world.

Evidently annoyed by the new series of questions and allegations regarding his ties to Russia swirling this weekend, Trump decided to tweet an angry conspiracy theory blaming Obama for his problems. At first glance, Trump appears to be making a major new explosive allegation.

In reality, Trump is most likely summarizing a Breitbart article that is itself a summary of a highly speculative right-wing talk radio monologue that is based on facts that were originally reported long ago. Here are the tweets.:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!
5:35 AM - 4 Mar 2017

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Is it legal for a sitting President to be "wire tapping" a race for president prior to an election? Turned down by court earlier. A NEW LOW!
5:49 AM - 4 Mar 2017

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
I'd bet a good lawyer could make a great case out of the fact that President Obama was tapping my phones in October, just prior to Election!
5:52 AM - 4 Mar 2017

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
How low has President Obama gone to tapp my phones during the very sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!
6:02 AM - 4 Mar 2017

The phrasing that Trump “just found out” about this, combined with the fact that he is the President of the United States, superficially suggests that he received some kind of new classified briefing. That would be very interesting if it’s true, though also potentially inappropriate for the president to be receiving briefings about an ongoing investigation into his own close associates. But Trump almost certainly “found out” via Joel Pollack’s March 3 article on Breitbart, summarizing conservative talk radio pundit Mark Levin’s theory that Obama is orchestrating a “silent coup” against Trump.

Levin, however, does not bring any new facts to the table.

www.vox.com/2017/3/4/14813434/trump-tweet-fisa-watergate

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, March 4, 2017 12:18 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Snicker, SIG you say both. Nothing to see here when it comes to Trumps ties to Russia. Then in many posts in the past two years, there is no reason for people to shit themselves over Russia. Then in a different response to me, you say people should shit themselves over Russia.

That's why the snicker.

what I'm saying is that your have paranoid free-floating fantasies about Russia. You start out with BUT RUSSIA!... but never end that sentence.

I have been urging you to think specifically and practically about what our interests are, and how Russia threatens them. You haven't even been able to do that. We can only counter a threat if we can identify and engage it. Burying your head in your ass or in the sand aren't viable responses.



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Saturday, March 4, 2017 3:57 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Now I remember Sessions...

He's the dick that made me have to look at this every time I started a game of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles at the arcade.



Nah... that must be his brother. How come government work is always the family business?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, March 4, 2017 4:00 PM

DREAMTROVE



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Originally posted by G:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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One of the ways I know that Russia is a threat... is because you say they aren't- GSTRING
I just said that they were.



SIGGY'S contrary 'Russia is nothing to worry about" before "YOU SHOULD BE AFRID OF RUSSIA!"



They're not. The NWO has been attacking Russia since its inception.

It's logically obvious.
What Pirate News was trying to say for years:
Nazi is from Ashkenazim, which mean the pure blood of the [German] race. Hence Master Race, Yiddish edition. Socialism is the post-napoleon free masonic rationalist attempt to re-instate the enlightenment, aka non-jewish version. Both became infiltrated and conflate with the other, hence the exonym 'nazi. This gave us post colonial imperialism, one-worlders, which led to world wars, HG Wells' NWO.

The NWO wants to make a one world govt. but for that to happen, there can't be a large empire in the middle of it that will never sign on to its trade treaties, and that it keeps losing chess games to.

Apply the same logic to the muslim world and you'll reach the same conclusion. They are no threat to america, they're only a threat to one world govt.

Hence our terrorist attacks against ourselves, our demonization of Islam, Russia, etc.

Why waste time fighting about it? Either new info the larger scope or new topic.
Why just ?

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Saturday, March 4, 2017 4:08 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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One of the ways I know that Russia is a threat... is because you say they aren't- GSTRING

I just said that they were. Their power is military, and if we leave their borders alone, they will leave us alone.

The Saudi power rests on its support of the petrodollar. They have done more real damage to us than BUT RUSSIA!!! It's time you woke up to that fact.

CHINA'S power is economic, they are the "factory of the world", and they're looking to be a financial power as well.

The person engaging in either-or thinking is you. We live in a world of contending interests. It's time we started paying attention to ours. - SIGNY

SIGGY'S contrary 'Russia is nothing to worry about" before "YOU SHOULD BE AFRID (sic) OF RUSSIA!"

"Oh, much ado about nothing. Trump gave a good speech and ... as sure as night follows day ... the deep state comes up with yet another pointless reason to crank up the old BUT RUSSIA! meme. Good grief.

Because the reasons that they use to scare people about Russia are... pointless. Russia interfered with our elections? Ludicrous. Russians talked to our Senators? OH PUHLEEZ!

There are reasons to worry about Russia, but not these stupid fear-mongering snippets.

What I have been asking YOU to do is DEFINE AMERICA'S INTERESTS AND SEE WHERE RUSSIA THREATENS THEM.

I can name a few good ones besides nuclear weapons, can you?

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BTW - it's been a few posts since you used "Deep State" - aren't you falling behind?
Deep state. Yep, it's real.


It is LUDICROUS .... YOU are ludicrous ... to suggest that "talking to" Russian officials is somehow wrong. We need to be talking to Russians more, not less. I welcome it, and so should you.


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Saturday, March 4, 2017 5:53 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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And Jack, if you watch the video's beginning you'll get to see Sessions under oath perjure himself. Opps...



No need to spittle your lies here.

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Saturday, March 4, 2017 10:41 PM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:

Apply the same logic to the muslim world and you'll reach the same conclusion. They are no threat to america, they're only a threat to one world govt.



Hey sockpuppet/dreamtrove. Do you know that if you spell America with a small A this spell check will automatically capitalize it. So in order for your America to be spelled with a small A, as it is here, it would have to be done on purpose. Even if you typed it out in word, it would do the same thing, capitalize it. Again, you would be forced to override it and make it a small A again.

Care to explain? Where ya from? Think your slick? Not slick enough I'm thinking.


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Saturday, March 4, 2017 11:45 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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So in order for your America to be spelled with a small A, as it is here, it would have to be done on purpose. Even if you typed it out in word, it would do the same thing, capitalize it. Again, you would be forced to override it and make it a small A again.

Care to explain? Where ya from? Think your slick? Not slick enough I'm thinking. - THUGR



THUGR is once again finding "Russian trolls" wherever his paranoid delusions lead him

Oy!



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Sunday, March 5, 2017 12:22 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Hey sockpuppet/dreamtrove. Do you know that if you spell America with a small A this spell check will automatically capitalize it. So in order for your America to be spelled with a small A, as it is here, it would have to be done on purpose. Even if you typed it out in word, it would do the same thing, capitalize it. Again, you would be forced to override it and make it a small A again.

Care to explain? Where ya from? Think your slick? Not slick enough I'm thinking.



Just because your browser makes a bunch of red squiggly lines under all your misspellings doesn't mean that you gotta right click on 'em. Don't know what browser you use, but Firefox doesn't auto-correct for me. I blame that on my OCD.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, March 5, 2017 12:39 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Hey sockpuppet/dreamtrove. Do you know that if you spell ... blah bah blah




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Sunday, March 5, 2017 4:33 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I .... I just can't explain THUGR.

Let me rephrase that: The only explanation that I can come up with is a mental disability. If he wasn't such an asshole 99% of the time, I'd feel sorry for him.

Which, come to think of it, probably explains why he's an asshole so often: He'd rather have us think he's a jerk than think he's delayed.

Hmmm... I'll keep that in mind.



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Sunday, March 5, 2017 7:35 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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What I have been asking YOU to do is DEFINE AMERICA'S INTERESTS AND SEE WHERE RUSSIA THREATENS THEM.- SIGNY

Hahahah shit - you started a thread about that LAST NOVEMBER, and you still haven't come up with any thing! You don't even want to answer your own question.
Your last post in that thread: "bump" That's it! Is that one of our interests?
The post before that ended with: "enough for now, but I promise I'm going somewhere with this."

You're such a clown. - GSTRING



Well, as you might have noticed, I "bumped" the thread to (a) give you some time to think abut it while (b) I was coming up with a SPECIFIC post of my own. You might have noticed, had you bothered to comprehend even a portion of my posts on the topic, was that I was addressing GENERAL societal interests ... just to set the framework large enough so that I wasn't missing anything. Your contribution to the thread was less than nothing, which is reflective of your impoverished intellectual scope.

You'll be disappointed to read that my view of America's interests has nothing in about Russia, because Russia isn't an interest of ours, despite the fact that you and your faction keep obsessing about it, over and over and over ... to the point of ludicrousness. I mean, look at THUGR, he thought he was seeing a "Russian troll" in Dreamtrove's post because DT didn't capitalize "america". Good grief.

First of all, Flynn didn't "lie under oath" because he wasn't under oath. Secondly, in my view Sessions didn't "lie under oath" because I thought it was pretty clear from his answer that he thought he was answering a question about talking to Russian representatives as a member OF THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN. That's why the word "surrogate" showed up, I thought it was kind of a non-sequitor but it turns out that Al Franken's full question (the one you can find in transcript) also addressed the concept of Sessions being a "surrogate".

Dood, you've had a bee in your bonnet even since whenever about "Russia" and your concerns are pointless and stupid. So go stuff a sock in it, mkay?



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Sunday, March 5, 2017 9:14 AM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Hey sockpuppet/dreamtrove. Do you know that if you spell America with a small A this spell check will automatically capitalize it. So in order for your America to be spelled with a small A, as it is here, it would have to be done on purpose. Even if you typed it out in word, it would do the same thing, capitalize it. Again, you would be forced to override it and make it a small A again.

Care to explain? Where ya from? Think your slick? Not slick enough I'm thinking.



Just because your browser makes a bunch of red squiggly lines under all your misspellings doesn't mean that you gotta right click on 'em. Don't know what browser you use, but Firefox doesn't auto-correct for me. I blame that on my OCD.

Do Right, Be Right. :)


Try typing America without capitalizing it. Do it in response to me here. Watch what happens. It's also a fact that capitalizing America should be automatic. Shit, he capitalized many common words in his post.

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Sunday, March 5, 2017 9:31 AM

THGRRI


The delusion is yours SIG. You have been getting spanked daily for years here. It's been there for all to read. I'm happy with that.

You have been shown to be posting lies and propaganda. I'm happy with that.

You have been shown to troll on behalf of Russia whenever Russia is mentioned. And pushing their agenda even when they are not. I'm happy with that.

You have been alone with only 1kiki at your side, as most here have dismantled you both. I'm happy with that.

And you have been shown to be a joke, a cutter and past'er of nonsense and subjective bullshit from fake news sources. And I'm happy with that.

All in all SIG, your presence here makes me happy.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I .... I just can't explain THUGR.

Let me rephrase that: The only explanation that I can come up with is a mental disability. If he wasn't such an asshole 99% of the time, I'd feel sorry for him.

Which, come to think of it, probably explains why he's an asshole so often: He'd rather have us think he's a jerk than think he's delayed.

Hmmm... I'll keep that in mind.



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Sunday, March 5, 2017 9:44 AM

DREAMTROVE


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Originally posted by THGRRI:

if you spell America with a small A this spell check will automatically capitalize it.


nope. sure doesn't when i type america.
firefox on mac here. it wants to capitalize firefox, though
i just get red dots. but yours autocorrects, why the misspellings? [/snark]

i don't care, personally. call me ziggy or ee cummings.

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Sunday, March 5, 2017 9:52 AM

THGRRI





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Sunday, March 5, 2017 9:54 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:


if you spell America with a small A this spell check will automatically capitalize it.


nope. sure doesn't when i type america.
firefox on mac here. it wants to capitalize firefox, though
i just get red dots. but yours autocorrects, why the misspellings? [/snark]

i don't care, personally. call me ziggy or ee cummings.



Any child or adult born and raised here automatically capitalizer's America. I bet it's the same with children and adults that write the name of their country around the world. So even if America is your adopted country you would be instinctually motivated to capitalize this country's name.

Even if I'm wrong on this, dealing with you has left me with a bad impression of you, and that's your doing. You are clueless just how much is revealed about you by your posting here under two identities. Disrupter and manipulator, passive aggressive authoritarian as G would say. To the credit to those who post here, you didn't get away with it for a minute.

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Sunday, March 5, 2017 10:11 AM

RIVERLOVE


We're so sorry Uncle Albert ..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4281760/Six-Democrats-met-Russ
ian-Ambassador-past.html#ixzz4aOqSgb7F


My my, a conspiracy by anti-Trump zealots. Shocking!

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Sunday, March 5, 2017 12:08 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Try typing America without capitalizing it. Do it in response to me here. Watch what happens. It's also a fact that capitalizing America should be automatic. Shit, he capitalized many common words in his post.



america

[EDITED TO ADD]

I'm going to leave that un-capitalized to show that it takes twice (by the time I edit this). That, and I don't feel as if I were burning a flag or anything by not capitalizing it.

That being said, Firefox "yells at me" with squiggly red lines for having an un-capitalized America, but it does not fix it for me.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, March 5, 2017 3:48 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.



FROM THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

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What’s Behind the Putin Fantasies

Donald Trump never found much of a seat on the U.S.-Russia business express.
By Holman W. Jenkins, Jr.
Feb. 28, 2017 7:22 p.m. ET


Several Trump campaign advisers had business ties to Russia, so that must be nefarious, right?

Except that until the Crimea sanctions in 2014, it was U.S. policy to encourage American business in Russia—and had been since 1991. That a handful of advisers did business in Russia is amazing only because it’s so few. In July 2009, President Obama himself visited Moscow with a passel of U.S. execs in tow. Joe Biden was in Moscow a few...


https://www.wsj.com/articles/whats-behind-the-putin-fantasies-14883277
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I saw this in hardcopy, you will have to subscribe to read the rest online, but basically they said that since 1991 is was government policy to encourage American business investment in Russia, which led to a number of politicians and businessmen - including Presidents and Secretaries of State - talking to and even visiting Russia.

OH THE HORROR! The article goes on to say that the notable thing about Trump's involvement with the investment express train to Russia was his inability to find a seat on it. Except for Miss Universe (a one-time event) and NASCAR, Trump has not had any successful ventures in Russia.



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Sunday, March 5, 2017 4:03 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

basically they said that since 1991 it was government policy to encourage American business investment in Russia, which led to a number of politicians and businessmen - including Presidents and Secretaries of State - talking to and even visiting Russia.

OH THE HORROR!

Russian Ambassador Thought Special Meetings With Jeff Sessions Were Very Memorable
www.theonion.com/article/heartbroken-russian-ambassador-thought-specia
l-mee-55432


Expressing surprise and sadness at Attorney General Jeff Sessions’ repeated denials of contact with Russian officials during the 2016 presidential campaign, heartbroken Ambassador Sergey Kislyak told reporters Thursday that he thought his special meetings with the then–Alabama senator were actually very memorable.

“To be honest, our two conversations hold great significance for me, and I can’t help but be upset to learn that Jeff felt otherwise,” said the tearful Russian diplomat, adding that he simply could not believe that Sessions could so nonchalantly dismiss the many hours they spent discussing the intimate details of their lives, including their innermost hopes and fears for their respective countries.

“It really hurts to think that Jeff doesn’t cherish the afternoons we spent sitting in his office exchanging information about everything under the sun. These were some of the most meaningful discussions of my life, and Jeff’s writing them off like they didn’t even happen. How could he be so cruel?”

Kislyak went on to say that even his subsequent communications with former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn never for a moment made him forget the precious time he and Sessions spent together.

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Sunday, March 5, 2017 4:17 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK




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Sunday, March 5, 2017 7:41 PM

DREAMTROVE


Viktor Tsoi?

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Sunday, March 5, 2017 7:41 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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Ain't nobody in this country afraid of Russia.
Cite?




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Monday, March 6, 2017 12:30 AM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by 1kiki:
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Ain't nobody in this country afraid of Russia.
Cite?




Sure 1kiki, a cite is a quote (a passage, book, or author) as evidence for or justification of an argument or statement.

Since I am the author and source of the statement "Ain't nobody in this country afraid of Russia." I can confirm this statement was created by me.

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Monday, March 6, 2017 12:54 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


So, you spouted yet another useless opinion.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Monday, March 6, 2017 8:45 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by 1kiki:
So, you spouted yet another useless opinion.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

"Due to my contact with Russian officials as a Trump campaign surrogate, I must recuse myself from the investigation into whether Russian officials had contact with Trump campaign surrogates." - editorial cartoon character Jeff Sessions.
www.gocomics.com/mattdavies/2017/03/03



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, March 6, 2017 8:55 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


SECOND isn't interested in the truth. She isn't even interested in facts. She has a grotch, and that (ahem) trumps everything.

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Monday, March 6, 2017 9:38 AM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND isn't interested in the truth. She isn't even interested in facts. She has a grotch, and that (ahem) trumps everything.




Oh, stop pretending you aren't the Toll here who posts manipulated and fake news. I've shown far to many of your news sources to be biased and full of lies. Add to that conspiracy theories.

I gotta know SGI. When I show how you have posted a lie, and how your source is bullshit, doesn't it make you reflect and wish to change?

That said, I gotta ask this. So, why don't you?

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Monday, March 6, 2017 9:53 AM

SIGNYM

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Oh, stop pretending you aren't the Toll here who posts manipulated and fake news. I've shown far to many of your news sources to be biased and full of lies. Add to that conspiracy theories.

I gotta know SGI. When I show how you have posted a lie, and how your source is bullshit, doesn't it make you reflect and wish to change?

Oh, stop trying to start a flame war, you stupid troll.



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Monday, March 6, 2017 1:37 PM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Oh, stop pretending you aren't the Toll here who posts manipulated and fake news. I've shown far to many of your news sources to be biased and full of lies. Add to that conspiracy theories.

I gotta know SGI. When I show how you have posted a lie, and how your source is bullshit, doesn't it make you reflect and wish to change?

Oh, stop trying to start a flame war, you stupid troll.




Posting facts isn't trolling SIG. You should try it sometime.

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Monday, March 6, 2017 2:26 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Oh, stop trying to start a flame war, you stupid troll.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Monday, March 6, 2017 2:36 PM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Oh, stop trying to start a flame war, you stupid troll.




Ah, my feeling are hurt.
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Monday, March 6, 2017 2:37 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Oh, stop trying to start a flame war, you stupid troll.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Monday, March 6, 2017 2:55 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND isn't interested in the truth. She isn't even interested in facts. She has a grotch, and that (ahem) trumps everything.

There is Jeff Sessions true story that may end with Trump impeached.

The story raises two related legal issues.

One is whether Trump’s business ties to an extraordinarily corrupt Azerbaijani family involved violations of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, a law that Trump has been sharply critical of in public but which remains on the books and which Attorney General Jeff Sessions swore during his confirmation hearings he was committed to upholding.

For the second legal issue which also may end Trump's Presidency, you will have to read the story at www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/6/14827604/trump-tower-baku

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, March 6, 2017 5:10 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Posting facts isn't trolling SIG. You should try it sometime.



That statement is true enough.

The problem is that nobody can even agree what the facts are anymore.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, March 6, 2017 5:34 PM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Posting facts isn't trolling SIG. You should try it sometime.



That statement is true enough.

The problem is that nobody can even agree what the facts are anymore.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



That's because some here fight hard to change what is factual. They do this for many reasons.

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Monday, March 6, 2017 6:34 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Posting "facts" isn't trolling SIG.
Except posting insults IS. I could say "Your mother shaves her beard every day and you smell like dog poo" and claim that it is "fact". I could call you a deep-state troll, I could say that you're a liar and a moron and claim it is "fact". YOU could call me a "Russian troll" and claim it is "fact". In reality, those are just insults, and if your posts are almost nothing but repetitions of insults, you IN FACT are a troll and are simply trying to start a flame war.


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Monday, March 6, 2017 6:55 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Posting "facts" isn't trolling SIG.
Except posting insults IS. I could say "Your mother shaves her beard every day and you smell like dog poo" and claim that it is "fact". I could call you a deep-state troll, I could say that you're a liar and a moron and claim it is "fact". YOU could call me a "Russian troll" and claim it is "fact". In reality, those are just insults, and if your posts are almost nothing but repetitions of insults, you IN FACT are a troll and are simply trying to start a flame war.


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THUGR IS A DEEP-STATE TROLL

Then you must have a problem with comedians mocking Trump. They must be part of the deep state, too, same as Thugr. David Letterman, retired satirist, was interviewed at www.vulture.com/2017/03/david-letterman-in-conversation.html

For Letterman, Trump (whom he now calls “Trumpy”) is an easy target, but that doesn’t make the work of comedy any less important. In fact, that Trump is so easily triggered means that comedy has more political power now than ever. Citing Saturday Night Live‘s relentless lampooning of Trump and his cabinet members, Letterman commended the NBC sketch show for keeping the pressure on the president. (Indeed, Trump was reportedly rattled by the comedian Melissa McCarthy spoofing his press secretary, Sean Spicer.)

"The man has such thin skin that if you keep pressure on him — I remember there was a baseball game in Cleveland, and a swarm of flies came on the field and the batters were doing this [mimes swatting at flies] while the pitcher was throwing 100 miles an hour. Well, that’s Alec Baldwin and Saturday Night Live. It’s distracting the batter. Eventually Trump’s going to take a fastball off the sternum and have to leave the game."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, March 7, 2017 5:40 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


The comedians mocking Trump:
Cartoon Donald Trump Is Visited By Ghosts Of Presidents Past


While the comedians mock real Trump, Breitbart and Rush Limbaugh are praising real Trump. Someone is mistaken about Trump. Guess who?:

In conservative media, where the claim originated, Trump has gotten credit for cracking open a plot by a “deep state” of critics and conspirators to bring down his presidency. And the perpetrator is former president Barack Obama.

“It would [seem] that the ‘Russia hacking’ story was concocted not just to explain away an embarrassing election defeat, but to cover up the real scandal,” wrote Breitbart’s senior editor-at-large Joel Pollak.

“Trump confounds these people because he’s always a step or two ahead,” Rush Limbaugh told his listeners on Monday. “It’s a direct line to the Democrat Party and Obama and members of the Obama administration that Trump is signaling, ‘You don’t face the usual feckless bunch of opponents who never fight you back.’”

Trump’s wiretap allegations completed a feedback loop that started during the presidential campaign and has gotten sturdier since. The president’s media diet includes cable television news shows, like “Fox and Friends,” where guests and hosts regularly defend him. On Twitter, he frequently elevates stories that grew in conservative talk radio, or on sites like Breitbart News and InfoWars, out of view of a startled mainstream media. Monday’s news cycle demonstrated just how strong the loop was, as Levin himself appeared on Fox News for 12 barely interrupted minutes to share his theory that the alleged wiretapping was a political hit job.

“Donald Trump is the victim. His campaign is the victim,” said Levin, as a Fox News “alert” scrolled over the screen. “These are police state tactics. If this had been done to Barack Obama, all hell would break loose. And it should.”

www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/03/07/trump-and-republic
ans-see-a-deep-state-foe-barack-obama
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, March 7, 2017 10:18 PM

THGRRI


Donald Trump Met Russian Ambassador During The Campaign, Despite Repeated Denials

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-met-russian-ambass
ador-during-the-campaign-despite-repeated-denials/ar-AAnZqDl?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=BHEA000


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Tuesday, March 7, 2017 10:33 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Posting facts isn't trolling SIG. You should try it sometime.



That statement is true enough.

The problem is that nobody can even agree what the facts are anymore.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



That's because some here fight hard to change what is factual. They do this for many reasons.

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No. It is because what is factual has become completely subjective. There is not a single news source out there that is unbiased.

It's become a game of you believe in your "facts" and I'll believe in my "facts".

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Wednesday, March 8, 2017 5:37 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Then you must have a problem with comedians mocking Trump.
I do. It's like comedians making fun of "Obama: the Muslim/ Kenyan/ Alinsky/ socialist".

Humor is a powerful weapon, and it IS a weapon. Don't think that people don't recognize it's propaganda-worthiness.







Funny, huh?







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Wednesday, March 8, 2017 6:35 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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No. It is because what is factual has become completely subjective. There is not a single news source out there that is unbiased.
It hasn't just "become" subjective, it always has been. No news source can possibly inform everyone of everything. By sheer fact selection, if nothing else, any source is "biased". That's why you have to look at ALL sources, or at least a wide smattering of them ... CNN, RT, BBC, Infowars, Straits Times, Xinhua etc. It can be a dizzying experience: Sometimes there's almost NO overlap on the stories covered. It's as if we live in different worlds.

Not only that, you have to look at them with an open mind, but disengaged emotions. Be prepared to get out the mental popcorn: some of the most insightful news comes from the strangest sources. Over time, you'll get a feel for which source is best/ most predictive for what kind of news, and how they are biased/ who they are representing.




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Wednesday, March 8, 2017 6:35 AM

6STRINGJOKER


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:




ROR

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Wednesday, March 8, 2017 6:45 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


HAHAHA!

Curiously, the "stereotype" that many Asians confuse their "Ls" and "Rs" happens to be a true observation, if an old one.

1) I used to work with an amino acid analyzer built by JEOL (Japan Electronic Optical Laboratory) and I had one of those awkwardly-translated manuals/ troubleshooting guides. It didn't assume that the analyst was a know-nothing, and was therefore extremely informative ... but it DID have the random substitution of "l" for "r".

2) I used to work with a colleague from Myanmar ... same problem. I had to listen EXCEPTIONALLY closely to her, because in my mind I was busy plugging in "ls" for "rs" whenever a word didn't make sense.

3) Even National Geographic published a picture of a team T-shirt in Japan, printed with "Japanese Lock Climbing Club". For a moment, I thought they climbed "locks" ... yanno, the gates on canals that hold water in or out.



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Wednesday, March 8, 2017 8:19 AM

6STRINGJOKER


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
HAHAHA!

Curiously, the "stereotype" that many Asians confuse their "Ls" and "Rs" happens to be a true observation, if an old one.



I haven't run into many Asians in the midwest, not being a City Boy. One of my best friends growing up was half Irish half Korean. His dad brought his mom back to the states after the war. She learned the language, but always had a heavy accent. She didn't mix R's and L's, but they were hard to tell sometimes. I remember her asking me if my mom "woked" and I told her that she likes to stay in shape. He told me that she asked me of my mom worked, and I felt pretty bad. She didn't replace the L with an R, she just seemed to leave the R out entirely.

I think it probably varies by location, but I don't really have any basis for that other than knowing one person who was from Korea.


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Wednesday, March 8, 2017 8:24 AM

6STRINGJOKER


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And, "I'll disbelieve your facts and you'll disbelieve my facts." Game over at that point. I saw you post elsewhere that there's nothing we'll get from posting about all of this here, and I totally agree. I've known that since way back when I would just read RWED and not post - "futile! Puny humans!" - but I know how much worse I feel when I don't even look to find out what's going on. So, keep both your ears and all 3 of your eyes open Jack (ask Dream) and into the information breech! Before you jump repeat: "I have no idea, I have no idea, I have no idea..."



That's really just about the gist of it. Most of my news I get these days is stuff filtered from both sides by you guys and gals. I don't like giving the MSM on either side any of my attention. I don't need a college degree to know what is bullshit and what isn't, and I definitely don't need somebody who makes so much money that they can't even relate to the people they're talking to telling me a bunch of bullshit.

This is more something to pass the time than anything else. Break up time in between my current projects. One of these days I'm going to have to start getting back into shape and finding a job though, so my time spent contemplating all the BS is going to have to take a backseat to that.

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Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:51 AM

OONJERAH


Robert Redford: 45 years after Watergate, the truth is again in danger.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/robert-redford-45-years-after-
watergate-the-truth-is-again-in-danger/2017/03/31/d7b9bb8c-1334-11e7-ada0-1489b735b3a3_story.html?utm_term=.78906dc39996


"In July 1972, I was on a train tour through Florida promoting the film “The Candidate.” Entertainment and political press were on board, and I heard them gossiping about a break-in at Democratic National Committee headquarters at the Watergate complex in Washington. The story was being covered by two young reporters from The Washington Post, Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein."

-:============:-

Oonj: I think that whenever I mention the 40's, WWII, radio for
entertainment ... I lose everyone in here ... almost.

Apparently, I have little grasp of how different things are now
than they were back then.

Have we ever talked about the McCarthy era in here? I doubt it.
Stuff like that about maintaining & protecting Democracy is really
important to know.


The very idea that we could & did elect a man like Richard Nixon
to be President of the United States almost pales in comparison
to electing Donald Trump. Appalling may be the best word for it.
Misguided a nicer word than Idiotic.



... oooOO}{OOooo ...

I've given up looking for the meaning of life. Now all I want is a cookie.

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