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Originally posted by G:
Hate to say it, but this is a dead end without any legal mandates. And just thinking of how it could possibly work in real life it's just damn impossible to do or monitor. Would someone sit in on his visits and phone calls so he doesn't talk business with his kids or some other legal estate guardian? It's not going to happen, this is going to die like many other road blocks, er, acts of wishful retaliation.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Let's just be honest here Second...

I know in your mind, it's a much different story, but just take a step back and show a little empathy. Believe it or not, just about half of the country was as unhappy about Obama 8 years ago as you are about Trump right now.

I hope you're wrong about Trump. This was the first time I voted for a President and was actually kind of excited about it. I do not consider myself a stupid or gullible person.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Not sold.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I'm not about to change my mind about Trump because some random republican didn't vote for Trump, cause "reasons".

He's not even President yet. You're just pissin' in my Corn Flakes right now.

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Not to worry............Trump is going to do something so Constitutionally stupid that he's going to get Impeached for being to stupid fuck that he is.

Plain and simple; he will join Nixon in the annals of Stupid Fucking Moves...........End of Story.

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I'd buy some of that. I joked with my wife that he might not make it to his inauguration (and he still might not). But that might have been the Boonesfarm talking.

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Originally posted by G:
I thought it was weed - seriously. If I go to Africa I'm gonna partake.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
And here's a video of Barack Obama whining about White Privilege in his hometown...

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Obama's Affordable Care Act was a joke. . . .
I don't know the answer, but I fail to see your point. . . .

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When Obamacare first came into effect, I was excited to get what I thought would be financial help with my costly medicine and treatments. But [my husband’s salary] put me in an earning bracket too high to qualify for any financial assistance....I’m left with a premium of $893, so high that I can no longer afford the cost of my medicines and treatments on top of the monthly premiums.

....In the end, I voted for Trump because he promised to repeal and replace Obamacare, and that was the most important issue to my own life. Looking back, I realize what a mistake it was. I ignored the pundits who repeated over and over again that he would not follow through on his promises, thinking they were spewing hysterics for better ratings. Sitting on my couch, my mouth agape at the words coming out Trump's mouth on the TV before me, I realized just how wrong I was.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You're right about that. Obama lied about it, and it looks like its the Republican's turn to lie about it. Medical insurance is nothing but a huge ponzie scheme.

Baby Boomers that are going to retire and live till their 90 or 100 on social security checks paid for by the kids who have already been told that they won't get social security when they retire. (another unsustainable ponzie scheme), as well as hundreds of thousands of dollars of healthcare to keep them living old enough to look like the Crypt Keeper before they croak.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Baby Boomers that are going to retire and live till their 90 or 100 on social security checks paid for by the kids who have already been told that they won't get social security when they retire. (another unsustainable ponzie scheme), as well as hundreds of thousands of dollars of healthcare to keep them living old enough to look like the Crypt Keeper before they croak.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I was able to buy a $150,000 house for $67,000 in cash. That's why I've been able to keep out of debt after making less than $50k during the 8 years Obama was president.

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Originally posted by second:
The Netherlands welcomes Trump. Because we realize it's better for us to get along, we decided to introduce our tiny country to him in a way that will probably appeal to him the most.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

The irony that ...

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Oh... c'mon. Not even a giggle at that Second?

Why so serious?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You should see how my signature has changed over the years. It always looked about as bad as everybodies does when they use those electronic signatures at stores, but once I stopped writing anything else in cursive about 25 years ago it got progressively worse.

Once I realized that they don't actually ever look at your signature when you sign for anything, it's kind of just become a lazy line of swirls.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I think you place far too much meaning on a signature, especially in this digital age we live in. It's not as if most of us even send handwritten letters in the mail anymore, and with online bill paying I can't even think of the last time I signed my name on a check.

I think the last time I put my handwritten signature on something with an actual pen and not a digital screen was when I signed on my house over 5 years ago.

I'm assuming forensic psychology is just a hobby of yours, Second. It couldn't be your job with that huge tax cut you're getting.

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Legal Documents: Is it better to have a legible signature or an illegible one?

A: Cliff Gilley, JD cum laude, Seattle University Class of 2000
Written Nov 27, 2012
It doesn't matter whether the signature is legible or illegible, so long as it is consistent. A signature is simply a mark intended to authenticate a document; it can literally be any type of mark - a symbol, a single letter, initials, or a full signature. All have equal weight under the law -- assuming that you can prove that the mark was made by the person you're attempting to enforce the document against, with the intent to authenticate that document.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

SECOND .... have you actually ever looked at a doctor's signature? Yanno, that scrawl that is found on the bottom of a prescription pad, or "doctor's orders"? Not one in ten is legible. I hope for YOUR peace of mind that you see a doctor with a legible signature!

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Originally posted by second:
Doctors' lack of precision in handwriting, billing, record-keeping, diagnosis, and treatment has affected people's lives for the worse. Have you looked at the rate doctors are killing their patients in the USA? 250,000 or 440,000 per year. Don't like those numbers? Then pick a big number. Maybe not to you but it certainly screams to me that your doctor might be in the profession for the money, not to help you. That is also a fair way to look at Trump's entire career, which would explain why he has been sued so often and been bankrupted and screws his suppliers/contractors out of money and is unconcerned about calling his accountant to order the release of his tax returns. Trump is motivated by his money, not your life.

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Doctors' lack of precision in handwriting, billing, record-keeping, diagnosis, and treatment has affected people's lives for the worse. Have you looked at the rate doctors are killing their patients in the USA? 250,000 or 440,000 per year. Don't like those numbers? Then pick a big number. Maybe not to you but it certainly screams to me that your doctor might be in the profession for the money, not to help you. That is also a fair way to look at Trump's entire career, which would explain why he has been sued so often and been bankrupted and screws his suppliers/contractors out of money and is unconcerned about calling his accountant to order the release of his tax returns. Trump is motivated by his money, not your life.

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We've gone from talking just about signatures to a very wide range of things, yet again.

I'm willing to bet there are some pretty damn excellent surgeons out there that have miserable handwriting.

Now, if you are the type of doctor that regularly hands out prescriptions, I agree with you that a great effort should be put into having legible handwriting. Lives actually are at stake when you write out a scrip so poorly that the pharmacist either does their job and calls you to get the real scrip or makes a judgement call. What's to say that you even remember what the scrip was 3 days later? I've never seen a prescription pad that made copies.

Chances are, except for a letter he writes to the next president, as is tradition, you're never going to see anything handwritten by Trump the entire time he is in office. And say what you will about his signature, there's no mistaking it for anyone elses.


You're REALLY scraping at the bottom of the barrel for muck to throw at Trump now Second.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by second:
Hey 6ixStringJack! If you can shrug off doctors killing 440,000 people a year from medical incompetence, you can shrug off anything Trump does so long as it is less than 440,000 people dead. Per year. Fortunately, for Trump's incompetence to kill enough people for you to notice would require a nuclear holocaust and there are competent people with loaded guns standing close by in the White House who would shoot Trump before he did that.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Your ability to put words in other peoples mouths by veering constantly off topic so much it's impossible to follow never ceases to amaze me Second.

Stay on topic.

We are talking about Signatures.

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You're REALLY scraping at the bottom of the barrel for muck to throw at Trump now Second.= SIX

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

SECOND, I could bird-dog that insane handwriting argument (doctor's bad handwriting causes 440,000 deaths per year) with the REAL causes of iatrogenic deaths, starting perhaps with the concept that doctors deal with sick people so maybe you should expect deaths in that population above and beyond the average population, and moving on to hospital-acquired infections, drug interactions, hospital understaffing, etc and I will bet that "sloppy handwriting" will not be found anywhere because it's a vanishingly small cause.

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No, Signym. The sloppy way doctors practice medicine kills 440,000 patients a year. The handwriting that can’t be read (despite it being trivial to make handwritten prescriptions legible) is simply one of many small symptoms of doctors’ sloppy thinking, working, and reacting to the problems they are solving. Of course, the major symptom is death.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I'm not even going to argue your pointless post. There are far more important and interesting things to discuss.

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Originally posted by second:
Mister very slow thinking 6ixStringJack, the topic is actually Trump.

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