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Sunday, December 25, 2016 3:53 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:Quote:"Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake "If you aren't aware Signym is a lying sack of shit aware, Texans don't have much concern for the well-being of Yankees or Californians, even Yankee factory workers in Indiana "- SECOND I love that you quote me in your signature, Signym, but per your usual, you are full of it. Do you have a PhD in Propaganda and Misdirection I have to lie to make my point = SECOND
Quote:"Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake "If you aren't aware Signym is a lying sack of shit aware, Texans don't have much concern for the well-being of Yankees or Californians, even Yankee factory workers in Indiana "- SECOND
Quote:A lot of people really did switch to Donald Trump at the last minute based on Comey’s letter about email. Actually there were two letters: Oct 28th
Quote:and just before the election.
Quote:The first said that Comey, once again, was trying to put Hillary behind bars for a felony. Please standby for the Justice Dept’s indictment.= SECOND
Quote:The second letter said that Comey could not prove that Hillary should be imprisoned, but it implied that voters should wait for further developments after the election, when Comey would once again reopen the email server question. - SECOND
Quote:Dear Messrs. Chairmen: I write to supplement my October 28, 2016 letter that notified you the FBI would be taking additional investigative steps with respect to former Secretary of State Clinton's use of a personal email server. Since my letter, the FBI investigative team has been working around the clock to process and review a large volume of emails from a device obtained in connection with an unrelated criminal investigation. During that process, we reviewed all of the communications that were to or from Hillary Clinton while she was Secretary of State. Based on our review, we have not changed our conclusions that we expressed in July with respect to Secretary Clinton. I am very grateful to the professionals at the FBI for doing an extraordinary amount of high-quality work in a short period of time. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/11/06/read-full-text-comeys-letter-new-clinton-emails/93398304/
Quote:Both letters made all the difference in the world: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/voters-really-did-switch-to-trump-at-the-last-minute/
Sunday, December 25, 2016 3:57 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: The dissection begins. OBVIOUSLY, CLINTON DID SOMETHING WRONG. OBVIOUSLY, TRUMP DID SOMETHING RIGHT. To deny that is to deny reality.
Quote:Originally posted by SECOND: To deny 1kiki's assumptions is to deny reality?
Quote:Originally posted by SECOND: Now 1kiki has "The Truth"? [/sarcasm off]
Sunday, December 25, 2016 4:09 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Both letters made all the difference in the world: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/voters-really-did-switch-to-trump-at-the-last-minute/
Quote: As to what moved these Americans in the final weeks of the campaign, the panel has little to say. ... Still, we shouldn’t discount the possibility that voters might have gravitated to Trump anyhow. Research has long suggested that over the course of a campaign, partisans come home to their party’s candidate. Between mid-October and our post-election wave, Trump picked up almost 4 percentage points from people who had backed Romney four years before, suggesting that Republican identifiers were doing just that. But in an election of surprises, Trump’s victory might have come from small electoral shifts in the campaign’s final weeks that were surprisingly unsurprising.
Sunday, December 25, 2016 5:01 PM
Sunday, December 25, 2016 6:10 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: That's pretty ballsy, SECOND, lying egregiously where everyone can see it and then calling me a liar. I know that 1KIKI has pointed out your many, MANY "misquotes". I'm not going to make an exhaustive list, but I know that it happens with you, a lot.
Sunday, December 25, 2016 6:16 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Quote:Originally posted by second: Both letters made all the difference in the world: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/voters-really-did-switch-to-trump-at-the-last-minute/ SECOND, even YOUR OWN SOURCE doesn't say that. SHEESH! does your lying NEVER stop?Quote: As to what moved these Americans in the final weeks of the campaign, the panel has little to say. ... Still, we shouldn’t discount the possibility that voters might have gravitated to Trump anyhow. Research has long suggested that over the course of a campaign, partisans come home to their party’s candidate. Between mid-October and our post-election wave, Trump picked up almost 4 percentage points from people who had backed Romney four years before, suggesting that Republican identifiers were doing just that. But in an election of surprises, Trump’s victory might have come from small electoral shifts in the campaign’s final weeks that were surprisingly unsurprising.
Monday, December 26, 2016 3:46 AM
Quote:Signym, what is really ballsy, you lying sack of shit...
Quote:... is Trump settling Trump University for $25 million.= SECONDRATE
Quote:And Signym, your long exegesis for Comey’s two letters about Hillary’s emails is as worthless as a Trump promise.
Quote:I’ll attach the second letter below. -SECOND
Monday, December 26, 2016 4:06 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Monday, December 26, 2016 4:12 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Are you aware, 1kiki, that your reading comprehension is as worthless as you are? You best go back and read that again and do the math, again. The two letters from Comey moved the election in Trump's favor by 4%.
Monday, December 26, 2016 4:27 AM
Monday, December 26, 2016 10:01 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: 3 weeks before that, Hillary was up in far more than barely double digits. That's when Nate Silver gave Trump less than a 3% chance of winning the election.
Monday, December 26, 2016 1:12 PM
Monday, December 26, 2016 1:35 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: SECOND, If you want to do a real analysis, go look at the Investors Business Daily poll, which (unlike Nate Silver's data) took results every day, and was much more accurate. http://www.investors.com/politics/ibd-tipp-presidential-election-poll
Monday, December 26, 2016 2:00 PM
Monday, December 26, 2016 2:05 PM
Monday, December 26, 2016 2:12 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: SECOND, why do you keep referencing Nate Silver? The guy was right, once. But wrong so often afterwards. His mistake was that he believed the fake polls ... yeah, those polls where Democrats were "oversampled", which led to fake results. Which led to your fake analysis.
Monday, December 26, 2016 3:01 PM
JO753
rezident owtsidr
Monday, December 26, 2016 3:18 PM
Quote: SECOND, If you want to do a real analysis, go look at the Investors Business Daily poll, which (unlike Nate Silver's data) took results every day, and was much more accurate.- http://www.investors.com/politics/ibd-tipp-presidential-election-poll = SIGNY More accurate?= SECOND
Quote:Signym, your preferred pollster is still saying that “Trump Holds 2-Point Lead Over Clinton As Election Day Arrives”. 45% to 43%. But in the real world, Hillary has the 2-point lead. Hillary: 48.1% to Trump: 46.0% www.nytimes.com/elections/results/president =SEOCND
Quote:Signym, Trump cheated.
Quote:The actual winner of the election is Comey and his two letters to Congress about Hillary being a felony who needs jail time.
Monday, December 26, 2016 4:30 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: FiveThirtyEight Hillary Clinton chance of winning: 71.4% Donald Trump chance of winning: 28.6% Hillary Clinton electoral votes 302.2 Donald Trump electoral votes 235.0 Hillary Clinton popular vote 48.5% Donald Trump popular vote 44.9% Objectively, the IBD poll was more accurate. Quote:Signym, Trump cheated. HOW??? And what does this have to do with Comey? Aren't you just spinning the wheel of excuses again? Quote:The actual winner of the election is Comey and his two letters to Congress about Hillary being a felony who needs jail time. WHOA, that's some serious delusion there. Where in god's name is there anything even remotely like that in Comey's letters??? SECOND, I'm going to a breather from talking to you about Trump. Your extreme concern has pushed you into some dark intense space. Spew away, if you feel you must, but try to open up your scope of thought. Stewing on what happened and trying to rewrite history simply isn't going to work. Carry on.
Monday, December 26, 2016 5:54 PM
Quote:Nat Silver gave the odds that Trump would win the electoral vote.= SECOND
Quote:FiveThirtyEight 2016 Election Forecast President Updated Nov. 8, 2016 Hillary Clinton chance of winning: 71.4% Donald Trump chance of winning: 28.6% Hillary Clinton electoral votes 302.2 Donald Trump electoral votes 235.0 Hillary Clinton popular vote 48.5% Donald Trump popular vote 44.9%
Monday, December 26, 2016 6:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Nat Silver gave the odds that Trump would win the electoral vote.= SECOND Factually wrong. One last time: Quote:FiveThirtyEight 2016 Election Forecast President Updated Nov. 8, 2016 Hillary Clinton chance of winning: 71.4% Donald Trump chance of winning: 28.6% Hillary Clinton electoral votes 302.2 Donald Trump electoral votes 235.0 Hillary Clinton popular vote 48.5% Donald Trump popular vote 44.9% IBD/TIPP gave Trump a 2-point lead in the pools, Nate Silver gave Hillary a 3.7 lead. Nate Silver predicted that Hillary had a 71% chance of winning. Nate Silver gave Hillary a roughly 70-point electoral college lead (with a number of votes still undecided). Please look at the relevant statistics again.
Monday, December 26, 2016 7:06 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Signym, Trump cheated. The actual winner of the election is Comey and his two letters to Congress about Hillary ...
Quote: ... being a felony ...
Quote:... who needs jail time. Comey claimed he was merely notifying Congress that he was energetically seeking the evidence to lockup Hillary, and nobody about to vote, according to Comey, will assume Hillary is guilty until a jury convicts her.
Quote: www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/12/21/14025198/trump-undecided-final-weeks-survey
Quote: THERE ARE MANY FACTORS THAT COULD HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THIS CHANGE SO LATE IN THE GAME
Quote:Clinton’s campaign argues that the Comey letter swung the election
Tuesday, December 27, 2016 7:27 AM
Tuesday, December 27, 2016 7:29 AM
Tuesday, December 27, 2016 9:34 AM
Tuesday, December 27, 2016 1:49 PM
Wednesday, December 28, 2016 3:33 AM
SHINYGOODGUY
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Just as an observation, I've noticed over the decades that republican-ism fosters grass-roots action and populist movements, while democrat-ism co-ops grass roots movements and fosters dependency on government caretaking and action. That's how so many school boards ended up in republican hands, why county governments are so often republican, and how - in 2010 - republicans were able to win so many state legislatures, governorships, and Congress. They were ready and poised at the lower levels.
Wednesday, December 28, 2016 3:44 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: What are you talking about "Trump Tax" Obama is still our Aweful 45th President after 8 years of equal and greater terribleness... Seriously Second... WTF? Hillary lost 3 times so the new tactic is to blame as much as you can before Obama hands over the horrible reins? Do Right, Be Right. :)
Wednesday, December 28, 2016 6:06 AM
Wednesday, December 28, 2016 11:57 AM
Wednesday, December 28, 2016 12:00 PM
Wednesday, December 28, 2016 7:30 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: 1kiki, What happened to the true blue Bernie supporter you once were?
Quote: The one who was convinced Trump had no chance of winning?
Quote: Always demanding justifications for why you should vote for Hillary rather than the Green Party.
Quote: You were completely unable to understand that the odds showed that Trump's chances of winning were the same as the odds for playing Russian Roulette with two bullets in the six-shooter. That is a 33.3% chance.
Wednesday, December 28, 2016 8:13 PM
Thursday, December 29, 2016 7:42 AM
Thursday, December 29, 2016 8:09 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: In any case, Hillary lost YAY!!! Things went the way I wanted. Now the next task is to fight against Trump. Care to join? Or are you going to pout and whine, like a baby?
Thursday, December 29, 2016 12:23 PM
Quote:1kiki, now I understand your thinking, maybe. Hillary was the Greater Evil, Trump was the Lesser Evil, and Bernie was Good Enough. Now that Greater Evil has been defeated, 1kiki is moving on to defeating Lesser Evil. In the meantime, while that defeat of Evil is from 4 to 8 years away, which is longer than WWII (the most destructive war ever fought) a political party that has a very colorful, yet Totally Evil {heard of Nixon?} history except for tax-cuts exclusively for people like me, will be in charge of all branches of the Federal Government.- SECOND
Quote:Wealthy Would Never Steal’ — A Credo for Trump’s Party
Thursday, December 29, 2016 5:35 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: SECOND, is it safe to talk to you now? This was my thinking as well. I tried to explain my POV many times: I was only hoping for three things from the Trump admin that Hillary would NEVER accomplish, three things that could NEVER be accomplished at the state or local level: stop provoking Russia, kill free trade, and stop accommodating illegal immigration.
Friday, December 30, 2016 2:37 AM
Friday, December 30, 2016 7:54 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Now the next task is to fight against Trump. Care to join? Or are you going to pout and whine, like a baby?
Friday, December 30, 2016 7:58 AM
Saturday, December 31, 2016 4:39 PM
Saturday, December 31, 2016 5:46 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JO753: Is Trump Mentally Ill?
Monday, January 2, 2017 12:58 PM
Tuesday, January 3, 2017 9:50 AM
Wednesday, January 4, 2017 8:24 AM
Thursday, January 5, 2017 3:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JO753: ---------------------------- DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early http://www.nooalf.com
Thursday, January 5, 2017 6:39 AM
Thursday, January 5, 2017 11:42 AM
Quote:Assange: It wasn't the Russians or Putin! You know the Dem party has hit rock bottom when the KGB is telling the truth & the DNC is lying.
Quote:The dishonest media likes saying that I am in Agreement with Julian Assange - wrong. I simply state what he states, it is for the people....
Friday, January 6, 2017 6:08 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Trump says, "It is for the people." Everything is "for the people."
Saturday, January 7, 2017 6:09 AM
Quote: This report is a declassified version of a highly classified assessment; its conclusions are identical to those in the highly classified assessment but this version does not include the full supporting information on key elements of the influence campaign. Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent US Elections ICA 2017-01D 6 January 2017 Key Judgments Russian efforts to influence the 2016 US presidential election represent the most recent expression of Moscow's longstanding desire to undermine the US-led liberal democratic order, but these activities demonstrated a significant escalation in directness, level of activity, and scope of effort compared to previous operations. We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential election. Russia's goals were to undermine public faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump. We have high confidence in these judgments. • We also assess Putin and the Russian Government aspired to help President-elect Trump's election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her unfavorably to him. All three agencies agree with this judgment CIA and FBI have high confidence in this judgment; NSA has moderate confidence. • Moscow's approach evolved over the course of the campaign based on Russia's understanding of the electoral prospects of the two main candidates. When it appeared to Moscow that Secretary Clinton was likely to win the election, the Russian influence campaign began to focus more on undermining her future presidency. • Further information has come to light since Election Day that, when combined with Russian behavior since early November 2016, increases our confidence in our assessments of Russian motivations and goals. Moscow's influence campaign followed a Russian messaging strategy that blends covert intelligence operations—such as cyber activity—with overt efforts by Russian Government agencies, state-funded media, third-party intermediaries, and paid social media users or "trolls." Russia, like its Soviet predecessor, has a history of conducting covert influence campaigns focused on US presidential elections that have used intelligence officers and agents and press placements to disparage candidates perceived as hostile to the Kremlin. • Russia's intelligence services conducted cyber operations against targets associated with the 2016 US presidential election, including targets associated with both major US political parties. • We assess with high confidence that Russian military intelligence (General Staff Main Intelligence Directorate or GRU) used the Guccifer 2.0 persona and DCLeaks.com to release US victim data obtained in cyber operations publicly and in exclusives to media outlets and relayed material to WikiLeaks. • Russian intelligence obtained and maintained access to elements of multiple US state or local electoral boards. DHS assesses that the types of systems Russian actors targeted or compromised were not involved in vote tallying. • Russia's state-run propaganda machine contributed to the influence campaign by serving as a platform for Kremlin messaging to Russian and international audiences. We assess Moscow will apply lessons learned from its Putin-ordered campaign aimed at the US presidential election to future influence efforts worldwide, including against US allies and their election processes.
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