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Wednesday, November 23, 2016 5:05 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Wednesday, November 23, 2016 5:43 AM
Quote:Scientists Find "Persuasive Evidence" Of Vote Hacking, Demand Clinton Recount In 3 States The academics presented findings showing that in Wisconsin, Clinton received 7 percent fewer votes in counties that relied on electronic-voting machines compared with counties that used optical scanners and paper ballots.
Quote: They [Axel Geijsel Tilburg University and Rodolfo Cortes Barragan Stanford] found that States with a paper trail yielded higher support for Sanders (51%) than Clinton (49%). States without a paper trail yielded higher support for Clinton (64%) than Sanders (35%)
Wednesday, November 23, 2016 4:51 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Wednesday, November 23, 2016 5:24 PM
RIVERLOVE
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Sad that Joss is leading the charge for this.
Quote: TURN THOSE MACHINES BACK ON!!!
Thursday, November 24, 2016 12:05 AM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Quote: Really, the only way to stop this madness is hand-counted paper ballots.
Thursday, November 24, 2016 6:42 AM
Thursday, November 24, 2016 11:57 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: KIKI I can't imagine a modern receipt-type machine that itself can't be backed. As long as there is a scrap of software and a CPU in there somewhere, it can be hacked. BRENDA Yes, I heard about your Canadian hand-counted vote many years ago. Canada is my inspiration on that; glad to hear that you STILL hand-count the vote! ----------- "Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
Thursday, November 24, 2016 1:25 PM
Quote:KIKI I can't imagine a modern receipt-type machine that itself can't be backed. As long as there is a scrap of software and a CPU in there somewhere, it can be hacked.
Friday, November 25, 2016 9:48 AM
Quote:I can't imagine a modern receipt-type machine that itself can't be backed. As long as there is a scrap of software and a CPU in there somewhere, it can be hacked.- SIGNY It only works if the receipts and stored records are printed at the same time using impact printers and good old-fashioned carbon ribbon (which doesn't fade over time). Also, people have to check their receipts AT THE TIME to make sure the print-out is accurate. That would ensure that the hard copy receipts and stored records are both accurate reflections of the vote.- KIKI
Friday, November 25, 2016 9:49 AM
Quote:In the most primitive places on Earth, millions of alternative paper ballots are filled out months ahead of the election and stored under guard until the officials need them. On election day those alternative paper ballots are counted by hand while the real ballots are being burned by the officials. That is how an election can still be hacked when there are no electronic voting machines involved to be hacked. -SECOND
Friday, November 25, 2016 9:52 AM
Quote:Jill Stein Raises Enough Money To Force Wisconsin Recount - Michigan & Pennsylvania Up Next
Sunday, November 27, 2016 11:47 AM
Quote:Even Obama Slams Stein's Recounts: The Results "Accurately Reflect The Will Of The American People" OBAMA Jill Stein's credibility seems to be sinking fast as both the Obama administration and the Clinton campaign have released statements this morning indicating they've failed to uncover a single shred of election hacking evidence. The Obama administration confirmed their confidence in the election results via comments made to the New York Times saying that the election was "free and fair from a cybersecurity perspective" and that votes "accurately reflect the will of the American people." The Obama administration said on Friday that despite Russian attempts to undermine the presidential election, it has concluded that the results “accurately reflect the will of the American people.” ... In its statement, the administration said, “The Kremlin probably expected that publicity surrounding the disclosures that followed the Russian government-directed compromises of emails from U.S. persons and institutions, including from U.S. political organizations, would raise questions about the integrity of the election process that could have undermined the legitimacy of the president-elect.” ... “Nevertheless, we stand behind our election results, which accurately reflect the will of the American people,” it added. The recount efforts have generated pushback by experts who said it would be enormously difficult to hack voting machines on a large scale. The administration, in its statement, confirmed reports from the Department of Homeland Security and intelligence officials that they did not see “any increased level of malicious cyberactivity aimed at disrupting our electoral process on Election Day.” HILLARY The statement from the White House was followed by a statement from Hillary's general counsel, Marc Elias, who confirmed that they too "had not uncovered any actionable evidence of hacking or outside attempts to alter the voting technology." Because we had not uncovered any actionable evidence of hacking or outside attempts to alter the voting technology, we had not planned to exercise this option ourselves, but now that a recount has been initiated in Wisconsin, we intend to participate in order to ensure the process proceeds in a manner that is fair to all sides. If Jill Stein follows through as she has promised and pursues recounts in Pennsylvania and Michigan, we will take the same approach in those states as well. We do so fully aware that the number of votes separating Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton in the closest of these states—Michigan—well exceeds the largest margin ever overcome in a recount.
Quote:In August 2016, it was widely reported that foreign operators breached voter registration databases in at least two states and stole hundreds of thousands of voter records.... Specifically, there was a significant increase in the number of absentee voters as compared to the last general election. This significant increase could be attributed to a breach of the state's electronic voter database.
Quote:Even her so-called "computer science expert" offered up nothing more than baseless theories on "plausible" explanations of how the Wisconsin results may have been hacked. Sure, because it's just so impossible to believe that a flawed candidate with multiple ongoing FBI criminal investigations may have simply lost the election .... * * * As an update, after coming under attack from almost everyone today for her unfounded recount crusade, Jill Stein has lashed out against her critics with a tweet storm of her own. Among other things, Stein vowed to file recount petitions in any state where the applicable deadlines had not passed and lashed out at the other parties for not participating amid "so many questionable results." Might we respectfully suggest, Ms. Stein, that more people may take an interest in your efforts if you could offer up a single shred of evidence to support your wild accusations. Has anyone wondered why no other campaign has requested a recount with so many questionable results? #Recount2016 — Dr. Jill Stein (@DrJillStein) November 26, 2016
Quote:I will do a recount in any state where the deadline has not passed. Help my staff find state deadlines: https://t.co/VsruD0r8FR #Recount2016— Dr. Jill Stein (@DrJillStein) November 26, 2016 Apparently, suggestions that Stein is merely serving as a pawn of the Clinton campaign also struck a nerve. Why would Hillary Clinton—who conceded the election to Donald Trump—want #Recount2016? You cannot be on-again, off-again about democracy.— Dr. Jill Stein (@DrJillStein) November 26, 2016
Quote:Why would Hillary Clinton—who holds "public" and "private" positions—want to engage in something as transparent as #Recount2016?— Dr. Jill Stein (@DrJillStein) November 26, 2016
Quote:Finally, perhaps the following tweet sums up the whole ludicrous situation the best: Jill Stein took advantage of the massive desperation of the liberal base and bilked them out of millions. Congrats! LOL Best election ever!— RockPrincess (@Rockprincess818) November 25, 2016
Sunday, November 27, 2016 12:51 PM
THGRRI
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I brought that up to explain this Quote:Scientists Find "Persuasive Evidence" Of Vote Hacking, Demand Clinton Recount In 3 States The academics presented findings showing that in Wisconsin, Clinton received 7 percent fewer votes in counties that relied on electronic-voting machines compared with counties that used optical scanners and paper ballots. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-22/scientists-find-persuasive-evidence-vote-hacking-demand-clinton-recount-3-states This is very similar to the kind of data which indicated that Bernie Sanders had been robbed of the nomination because Quote: They [Axel Geijsel Tilburg University and Rodolfo Cortes Barragan Stanford] found that States with a paper trail yielded higher support for Sanders (51%) than Clinton (49%). States without a paper trail yielded higher support for Clinton (64%) than Sanders (35%) http://tdmsresearch.com/2016/06/20/45/ While the Clinton campaign - and Clinton supporters- were quick to dismiss the results of the primary study - which indicated that the machines had been hacked in Hillary's favor - they appear to be eager to hop on the bandwagon for exactly the same kind of evidence which shows that the election itself, in some places, may have been hacked against her. Very much a replay of FL 2000 and the Presidential election of 2004. (see Black Box Voting) Really, the only way to stop this madness is hand-counted paper ballots.
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