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TRUMP - Just because.....................Naw, I just can't say it!
Sunday, October 2, 2016 12:17 PM
MAL4PREZ
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: So, tell me about what's OUT THERE REGARDING HILLARY. What makes her so good? (And avoid references to Donald, or your statement will cease to be about Hillary.)
Sunday, October 2, 2016 1:08 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Sunday, October 2, 2016 1:15 PM
THGRRI
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: People who are supposedly Hillary supporters avoid the Hillary thread for some peculiar (cough cough fully-propagandized idiots cough cough) reason. Which is why I post here, where they (you) can't claim they (you) didn't read it. Besides, Trump is toast. Deader than a doornail. Circling the drain. And you're beating a dead horse. But, go ahead and endlessly obsess over him if you want. I prefer to focus on something more relevant.
Sunday, October 2, 2016 7:23 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: I've been saying for close to two months the Trump will not be elected. So I'm glad you finally agree with me.
Sunday, October 2, 2016 8:28 PM
Monday, October 3, 2016 2:22 AM
SHINYGOODGUY
Monday, October 3, 2016 2:52 AM
Quote:(cough cough fully-propagandized idiots cough cough) reason.
Monday, October 3, 2016 3:01 AM
Quote:Originally posted by MAL4PREZ: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: So, tell me about what's OUT THERE REGARDING HILLARY. What makes her so good? (And avoid references to Donald, or your statement will cease to be about Hillary.) Say, what was the title and topic of this thread again? If you can't handle conversation about Trump, stay out of the Trump thread. There is a Hillary thread, ya know. *smh* Both of you - mashed potatoes from the forehead on back. *-----------------------------------------------------------------* Battle is the Great Redeemer. It is the fiery crucible in which true heroes are forged. The one place where all men truly share the same rank, regardless of what kind of parasitic scum they were going in. *-----------------------------------------------------------------*
Monday, October 3, 2016 7:29 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:“Bill Clinton … associated with a man like Jeffrey Epstein, who everyone in New York, certainly within his inner circles, knew was a pedophile. Why would a former president associate with a man like that?” said Conchita Sarnoff of the Washington, D.C.-based nonprofit Alliance to Rescue Victims of Trafficking, Fox reported. Ms. Sarnoff also authored a book on Mr. Epstein titled “TrafficKing.” Mr. Epstein was arrested in 2005 and signed a plea agreement in 2007 with the U.S. Attorney’s Office, accepting a single charge of soliciting prostitution. He agreed to a 30-month sentence, registered as a “Tier 1” sex offender with the U.S. Virgin Islands and paid dozens of young girls under a federal statute providing for compensation to victims of child sexual abuse.
Quote:Hillary Clinton Is Not a Feminist Since Hillary announced that her husband would be joining her on the campaign trail, people have been debating whether or not it’s fair for the GOP to attack Bill’s sexual misdeeds in order to indirectly attack her. This makes sense. After all, we’re talking about a guy who has been accused of the sexual assault of more than ten women. Think about it: How is her appointing him really any different than if she’d appointed Bill Cosby? But here’s the thing: The real issue isn’t whether or not to attack Bill to indirectly attack Hillary — it’s about directly attacking Hillary for how she herself treated the women involved. Hillary Clinton claims to be pro-women, yet has actively worked to ruin lives of so many of them. She’s running on a “feminist platform” — she’s even dared to say that sexual-assault survivors have a “right to be believed” — despite the fact that what she did to the women who accused Bill went far beyond not believing them. She attacked them. When allegations of sexual misconduct emerged during Bill’s 1992 presidential run, she’s reported to have said “Who is going to find out? These women are trash. Nobody’s going to believe them.” Multiple people also report that she called the women “sluts” and “whores” — you know, for daring to be raped. A private investigator named Ivan Duda claims that, after Bill lost his second governor’s race, Hillary told him: “I want you to get rid of all these b****** he’s seeing . . . I want you to give me the names and addresses and phone numbers, and we can get them under control.”
Quote:Of the twenty-five people who signed the PNAC's founding statement of principles, ten went on to serve in the administration of U.S. President George W. Bush, including Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz.
Monday, October 3, 2016 8:29 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Considering he's back down at 33%, I don't think Orlando or NYC helped him enough (if at all). Considering the paltry past bump, which has already faded, unless it's a really YUGE terror attack, I don't see him getting significant mileage.
Monday, October 3, 2016 8:53 AM
Quote:Trump was always a scuzzy version of the capitalist type.
Monday, October 3, 2016 8:55 AM
Monday, October 3, 2016 12:18 PM
Monday, October 3, 2016 5:05 PM
MAGONSDAUGHTER
Monday, October 3, 2016 5:20 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Quote:Win or lose, you won't escape from Trumpism. So now you're agreeing with me that it's NOT about Trump, specifically. Ok. You can stop posting about TRUMP'S deals, and TRUMP'S business, and TRUMP'S tax returns, and TRUMP'S ... hands. It's time to move the focus off of Donald Trump the candidate, and on to creating a relevant opposing narrative. What can CLINTON do to improve her standing and make her positions relevant to more Americans? How can she help defeat TrumpISM across the country?
Quote:Win or lose, you won't escape from Trumpism.
Monday, October 3, 2016 6:36 PM
Quote:Originally posted by MAGONSDAUGHTER: Part of me is still shocked that this man is a presidential candidate - really? But then I see this phenomenon world wide - the growth of populist extremism - a whole raft of disconnected views often xenophobic in nature dressed up as 'Common man' rhetoric. Where have we seen this before in history? In some ways I do truly blame he Internet for enabling them this world wide misinformation campaign to be spread and anborb d [?] so widely. What can you do? Gut reactions take precedence over fact, exposure over morality. I'll wait to see what happens but I don't have confidence that this clown won't end up as president and then what?
Monday, October 3, 2016 6:40 PM
ELVISCHRIST
Monday, October 3, 2016 7:31 PM
Quote:Originally posted by ElvisChrist: It's funny to listen to the Republicans who are suckered onto Trump's asshole like remoras try to explain that his gaming of the system is "genius" (both Christie and Giuliani used that word), but that any so-called "welfare queen" would be despicable for gaming the system in a similar fashion. There is literally no amount of his shit they won't swallow, and the GOP and the worthless teabaggers are all queueing up to get their shitbuckets filled.
Tuesday, October 4, 2016 2:10 AM
Tuesday, October 4, 2016 4:32 AM
Tuesday, October 4, 2016 4:33 AM
Tuesday, October 4, 2016 8:24 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Creating a new paradigm isn't impossible, just very difficult. You have to have a vision that speaks to people's issues. You have to have a plan to carry out your vision. And you have to publicly put yourself on the line for it, so people know you're walking your talk. What do you think HRC should do to galvanize people?
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: The reason why I bring up Hillary's and Bill's sordid past isn't to say that Trump is ethically better than they are, but that personally and morally, as I said, they're a wash. It would be hard to decide on the basis of who is the "better" person. So given that neither their ethics or their economic policies are likely to be deciding factors, what DO we decide on? Of course, in order to do this the top 0.01% would have to become politically disabled. Since almost everyone - including liberals- are so smitten with the uber-wealthy,I doubt there would be political will to do even a fraction of what is necessary, and any major political figure who attempted this would be assassinated.
Tuesday, October 4, 2016 9:32 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: The reason why I bring up Hillary's and Bill's sordid past isn't to say that Trump is ethically better than they are, but that personally and morally, as I said, they're a wash. It would be hard to decide on the basis of who is the "better" person.
Tuesday, October 4, 2016 11:16 AM
Tuesday, October 4, 2016 11:40 AM
Tuesday, October 4, 2016 11:57 AM
Tuesday, October 4, 2016 12:09 PM
Tuesday, October 4, 2016 12:21 PM
Quote:The reason why I bring up Hillary's and Bill's sordid past isn't to say that Trump is ethically better than they are, but that personally and morally, as I said, they're a wash. It would be hard to decide on the basis of who is the "better" person.- SIGNY Yeah but he's not. He's much worse.- THUGR
Quote:Juanita Broaddrick: ‘Hillary has to be made accountable’ WASHINGTON Juanita Broaddrick, who accused former President Bill Clinton of assaulting her nearly four decades ago, said this week that Hillary Clinton needs to be held accountable for the comments she made about the women who accused her husband of sexual misconduct. “It’s degradable...she needs to be held accountable for all of the things she did to us,” Broaddrick told AM560 “The Answer” hosts Dan Proft and Amy Jacobson for Upstream Ideas. Broaddrick, a former Arkansas nursing home administrator who worked on Bill Clinton’s gubernatorial campaign and supports Donald Trump this year, said she decided to speak out about Hillary Clinton after she tweeted last year that sexual abuse victims had a right to be believed. Every survivor of sexual assault deserves to be heard, believed, and supported. https://t.co/mkD69RHeBL — Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) November 23, 2015 “I did not set out to do this. I did not start out supporting Donald Trump,” Broaddrick said in the interview. “I was only responding to a tweet Hillary Clinton sent out about all victims of sexual abuse should come forward and be believed...“Shame on her. Her of all people should not make that comment.” In January, Broaddrick tweeted: “I was 35 years old when Bill Clinton, Ark. Attorney General raped me and Hillary tried to silence me. I am now 73....it never goes away.”
Tuesday, October 4, 2016 12:31 PM
Tuesday, October 4, 2016 1:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:The reason why I bring up Hillary's and Bill's sordid past isn't to say that Trump is ethically better than they are, but that personally and morally, as I said, they're a wash. It would be hard to decide on the basis of who is the "better" person.- SIGNY Yeah but he's not. He's much worse.- THUGR Quote SIG “I was 35 years old when Bill Clinton, Ark. Attorney General raped me.
Tuesday, October 4, 2016 1:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Quote: What will President Trump do with a majority in the House and 60 Senators? 60 Senators? Really? Where did you get THAT number? Minds based in reality want to know!
Quote: What will President Trump do with a majority in the House and 60 Senators?
Tuesday, October 4, 2016 2:16 PM
Quote:This is one of the reasons you have no credibility and come off looking like a nut. There are thousands more posts in these threads by you that also reinforce you being nuts. I love it.-THUGR
Tuesday, October 4, 2016 2:22 PM
Quote:But wait, 1kiki! there is more! On November 21, 2013, the Senate used the so-called "nuclear option," voting 52-48, to eliminate the use of the filibuster on executive branch nominees and judicial nominees other than to the Supreme Court. 1kiki, did you notice that it only took 52 Senators in this real example to partially abolish the filibuster rules? It actually only takes 51 Republican Senators to pass the "nuclear option" abolishing the filibuster completely. There would be nothing the Democrats could do to stop President Trump and his 51% Republican majority in Congress from passing whatever they please.
Tuesday, October 4, 2016 3:54 PM
Tuesday, October 4, 2016 3:58 PM
Tuesday, October 4, 2016 4:33 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: “I was 35 years old when Bill Clinton, Ark. Attorney General raped me and Hillary tried to silence me." Quote:This is one of the reasons you have no credibility and come off looking like a nut. There are thousands more posts in these threads by you that also reinforce you being nuts. I love it.-THUGR I know that you and KPO and G are very "source driven"; you tend to disbelieve sources that you're not familiar with and believe sources that are comfortable and accustomed. I grant that you don't know what McClatchy is, and that you may not have the habit of understanding the turf before posting a response
Tuesday, October 4, 2016 5:09 PM
Tuesday, October 4, 2016 5:46 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: So you're NOW retracting your claim of 60 senators, second?
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: I have been saying - for months now - that IF we could count on the Democrats in the Senate, Trump in the WH would be no problem, But, Trump's not going to win. And there aren't going to be 60 republicans in the Senate. On top of that, OTHER presidents have swayed the entire nation to a new way of thinking. It's completely possible. So. What's your excuse NOW for not discussing Hillary and her severe shortcomings that gave away so much support to Trump? Here's the question - again - what can Hillary say to overcome TrumpISM in the US?
Quote:But the fact remains that her basic problem in this race is almost painfully simple. Over the course of her winning primary campaign she became a deeply unpopular figure. {That means she’s a murderer or an accessory to murder or she is plotting a future murder} And it’s hard — indeed, unprecedented — for such an unpopular person {she’s a murderer} to win the presidency.
Tuesday, October 4, 2016 6:11 PM
Tuesday, October 4, 2016 6:28 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Oh good! Let's drag Bill Clinton through the mud, again!
Tuesday, October 4, 2016 6:30 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: I admit - when your entire history as Senator has been as a do-nothing, Iraq War cheering, 'free' trade agreement supporter and apologist; when your entire term as Secretary of Sate has been devoted to getting into bed with jihadists and Nazis to destabilize and break country after country after country - AND you put US security at risk using your unsecured private server for classified information at the same time; when you refuse to address US nuclear first-strike policy and antagonize and provoke the only other major nuclear power on the globe; when you refuse to release the content of the speeches you made to mega-corporations and for which you earned tens of millions of dollars in under 2 years - with two million from major banks alone; when you collude with the supposedly neutral DNC to shoehorn yourself into the candidacy - it's a tough row to hoe! And maybe people are a bit misdirected about where the smell is coming from, but for sure they know something stinks. So, what do YOU think Hillary has done wrong? What does she need to say mea culpa for? What does she need to promise not to do again? How can she show she's learned some lessons? What policies does she need to disavow or adopt to prove she's going to walk her talk as a candidate for the average person?
Tuesday, October 4, 2016 7:49 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: Quote:Originally posted by ElvisChrist: It's funny to listen to the Republicans who are suckered onto Drumpf's asshole like remoras try to explain that his gaming of the system is "genius" (both Christie and Giuliani used that word), but that any so-called "welfare queen" would be despicable for gaming the system in a similar fashion. There is literally no amount of his shit they won't swallow, and the GOP and the worthless teabaggers are all queueing up to get their shitbuckets filled. He lost a billion dollars in one year, some genius. It's the kind of spin we hear from 1kiki and SIG all day every day here. Bait and switch. ____________________________________________ Russia trolls get contract extension http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60719
Quote:Originally posted by ElvisChrist: It's funny to listen to the Republicans who are suckered onto Drumpf's asshole like remoras try to explain that his gaming of the system is "genius" (both Christie and Giuliani used that word), but that any so-called "welfare queen" would be despicable for gaming the system in a similar fashion. There is literally no amount of his shit they won't swallow, and the GOP and the worthless teabaggers are all queueing up to get their shitbuckets filled.
Tuesday, October 4, 2016 7:50 PM
Tuesday, October 4, 2016 8:58 PM
Quote:CJR concludes, “The bottom line is: Bill Clinton was responsible for more damaging financial deregulation—and thus, for the [2008] financial crisis—than any other president.”
Tuesday, October 4, 2016 9:53 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Bill Clinton- Repealed Glass Steagall, which is what made a 2008 banking collapse possible. Signed the Commodities Futures Trading Act, which made all of those funny Credit Default Swaps possible, which made the financial crisis possible. Gutted state regulation of banks. Eliminated "Welfare as we know it", which threw hundreds of thousands of families into poverty. Destroyed Yugoslavia. Created minimum mandatory sentencing and expanded the War on Drugs. Thanks Bill.
Tuesday, October 4, 2016 10:02 PM
Tuesday, October 4, 2016 11:15 PM
Wednesday, October 5, 2016 3:49 AM
Quote:I can tell sgg - you're completely fine with snark, with trolling, with lies and insults. And YOUR completely dishonest criticisms are just more of the same shitty trolling from the shitty Hillary people who - really do! - represent their candidate VERY well - even emulate her. Yes, even to the bone deep dishonesty and hypocrisy and hate-filled little mind she has.
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: sgg Here's the scorecard from the first four pages of this thread - My first post - no insult kiki Monday, May 23, 2016 3:58 PM I just wanted to point out an error My second post - no insult kiki Monday, May 23, 2016 4:50 PM second So Obama's actions to help working people? They'd aspire to being merely trivial. I get trolled here Another sign of 1kiki and SIG trying to control the content of a thread. no insults from me here either kiki Monday, May 23, 2016 7:42 PM "Congress follows the 1% because ... or here kiki Thursday, May 26, 2016 1:30 AM here kiki Sunday, May 29, 2016 1:36 AM but I DO get trolled HERE, maybe you recognize the name of the poster SHINYGOODGUY Sunday, May 29, 2016 2:01 AM You've got to be the stupidest motherfucker on the face of the planet, and below as well. to which I reply Sunday, May 29, 2016 2:17 AM Hunh? You're incoherent. no insults from me here Sunday, May 29, 2016 2:57 AM or here Sunday, May 29, 2016 3:23 AM here Monday, May 30, 2016 2:18 AM but you troll me again Wednesday, June 1, 2016 6:16 AM Perhaps you wish to enlighten me, Oh Factual One. Both you and Sig know so much, and me, I'm but a mere mortal, a peon, with a pea of a brain failing to understand the intricacies of the world around me. I bow down at the enormity of your wisdom and kneel before you ever at the ready to attempt to learn at your feet. I bow and scrape..............teach me! and the VERY NEXT POST troll me and signy Wednesday, June 1, 2016 6:18 AM Those Oxford dudes are really good. Of course, none compare to the brilliance of 2 of our own scholars - kiki & Sig. then you revive an earlier post of mine where I ask about Hillary's factual history regarding Iraq, Libya, Syria and Ukraine with MORE trolling from you, sgg where you imply that YOU ONLY TROLL BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN TREATED SO VERY BADLY Friday, June 3, 2016 3:54 AM Anyway, I'm not here for your entertainment. I post what I please, you just have to deal with that fact. Whenever I'm of the mind, I post articles that catch my eye and comment on them (or at least I used to), I got slammed a number of times for posting my take on things, then I answer in kind and I get slammed for it. I didn't say anything negative here Saturday, June 4, 2016 1:49 PM or here Sunday, June 12, 2016 4:35 PM But I DID get strawmanned here, which is second's stock in trade - dishonesty Sunday, June 12, 2016 6:00 PM You should inform Warren of her horrible mistake when the morally superior Trump ought to be getting Warren's endorsement and I REPLIED with this: Sunday, June 12, 2016 8:09 PM since YOU are too dumb to understand your own hypocrisy, let me spell it out and here's a little interlude between signy and thuggr thuggr and viciously attacking Hillary Clinton about global a organization that attempts to help impoverished countries signy First of all, what organization is that? Because without that information, you look like the corner soapbox orator, shouting into the wind and pointing at the sky. thuggr You’re such an ASS. let's see second posts made-up stuff about Trump Monday, June 13, 2016 6:23 PM I reply Monday, June 13, 2016 6:43 PM That would be far more apropos if he actually said any of that. Did he? And second replies with - guess what! MORE dishonesty - except this is in the form of an outright lie Monday, June 13, 2016 6:50 PM Yes, Trump did. and when I challenge second, with, yanno, FACTS and LINKS Monday, June 13, 2016 8:19 PM second replies with this Monday, June 13, 2016 10:07 PM 1kiki loves Trump, hates Hillary. Because - that's what second does. Which is lie. A LOT. And so on. I can tell sgg - you're completely fine with snark, with trolling, with lies and insults. And YOUR completely dishonest criticisms are just more of the same shitty trolling from the shitty Hillary people who - really do! - represent their candidate VERY well - even emulate her. Yes, even to the bone deep dishonesty and hypocrisy and hate-filled little mind she has.
Wednesday, October 5, 2016 8:02 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: . . . YOUR completely dishonest criticisms are just more of the same shitty trolling from the shitty Hillary people who - really do! - represent their candidate VERY well - even emulate her. Yes, even to the bone deep dishonesty and hypocrisy and hate-filled little mind she has.
Wednesday, October 5, 2016 8:49 AM
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