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Trump v Hillary Debate #1
Sunday, October 2, 2016 12:30 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Sunday, October 2, 2016 2:04 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Quote: Trump proves it makes no difference what BS spews from the mouths of candidates And then you go on at length refuting what you already claim is bs. Isn't that a little self-defeating? MEANWHILE, when it comes to the candidate who actually WILL be president - you have nothing to say about her. Could it be you don't know anything about the candidate you claim to support?
Quote: Trump proves it makes no difference what BS spews from the mouths of candidates
Sunday, October 2, 2016 5:30 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Quote: I see Industrial Production increasing But sadly, the US has not enough internal manufacturing to keep up with internal demand. If we DID have enough internal manufacturing to meet internal demand, we wouldn't be purchasing goods made in foreign countries. Over the years the manufacturing to fill US internal demand has been increasingly located in foreign countries, which means those jobs have been increasingly located in foreign countries. And our purchases of foreign goods has been increasing relative to our exports of US-made goods. Consequently, our trade deficit has gone up and up over the decades. As an ultimate indicator of US manufacturing jobs relative to foreign manufacturing jobs, the US balance of trade is pretty good. Other statistics are irrelevant.
Quote: I see Industrial Production increasing
Sunday, October 2, 2016 5:44 PM
THGRRI
Quote:Originally posted by second: It is very hard to bust through your smug certainty that you know what you're talking about.
Sunday, October 2, 2016 8:48 PM
Monday, October 3, 2016 5:18 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:It is very hard to bust through your smug certainty that you know what you're talking about. My premise is that enough Americans to swing an election either way will never understand what policies Republicans and Democrats are selling. Both Trump and Hillary realize this, but each responds differently. Trump does not need a policy team. He can just make it up on the fly because Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan will do the work once Trump is President. Trump's only job is to get elected, not to govern. Hillary needs a policy team because she needs a policy in case the Republicans, by some election day miracle, cannot sabotage the Federal Government in 2017, unlike what the GOP has done to Obama. Hillary likes to talk about policy when she campaigns, even if it all amounts to nothing unless the GOP is out of power in Congress because of that miracle I told you about.
Monday, October 3, 2016 7:39 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: second . . . I thought I was pretty clear, but maybe you needed to see it in different words. Now that you have, maybe you can respond to what I posted.
Monday, October 3, 2016 7:54 AM
Quote:Donald Trump believes that a half-trillion-dollar trade deficit with the rest of the world makes the United States a loser and countries with trade surpluses like China and Mexico winners. “They’re beating us so badly,” he has said. “Every country we lose money with.” The reality is different. Trade deficits are not inherently good or bad; they can be either, depending on circumstances.
Quote:What’s more, eliminating the trade deficit would not, on its own, make America great again, as Mr. Trump promises. And in isolation, the fact that the United States has a trade deficit does not prove that trade agreements are bad for Americans, a staple of Bernie Sanders’s campaign in the Democratic presidential primary. In fact, trying to eliminate the trade deficit could mean giving up some of the key levers of power that allow the United States to get its way in international politics.
Quote:Getting rid of the trade deficit could very well make America less great. The reasons have to do with the global reserve currency, economic diplomacy and something called the Triffin dilemma.
Quote:The roughly $500 billion trade deficit that the United States runs each year isn’t just about poorly negotiated trade deals and currency manipulation by this or that country. It’s also, to some degree, a byproduct of the central role the United States plays in the global financial system. There’s even a name for this: the Triffin dilemma. In the mid-20th century, the economist Robert Triffin warned that the provider of the global reserve currency would need to run perpetual trade deficits to keep the world financial system from freezing, with those trade deficits potentially fueling domestic booms and busts.
Quote:America's Trade Deficit- The Job Killer
Quote:Currently we are running an annual trade deficit of around $540 billion (@ 3 percent of GDP). This could be offset by spending more on education, infrastructure, clean technology or other areas
Quote:but the Very Serious People in the GOP will not let us run larger Federal and State Government budget deficits. In that context, it is quite reasonable to link a trade deficit to higher unemployment, so Trump is not wrong in that respect. I’m not saying that Trump has any idea what he’s talking about; he doesn’t. But we are living in a world where, for the time being, a little mercantilism makes a bit of sense.
Monday, October 3, 2016 11:54 AM
Monday, October 3, 2016 12:14 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: What Trump said, as I recall, is that we have YUUGE debts AND our infrastructure is shot. He is correct.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: However, the real risk to the financial system is the 6-10X WORLD GDP of debt in derivatives, which is always denominated in US dollars. The rest is chump change compared to that,
Monday, October 3, 2016 3:08 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: This where I found a serious problem with Hillary (and the media). She seems to go by the motto If you lie, lie BIG! (And, note to self, make sure the media is with you.)
Monday, October 3, 2016 3:39 PM
Quote: “Bill Clinton … associated with a man like Jeffrey Epstein, who everyone in New York, certainly within his inner circles, knew was a pedophile. Why would a former president associate with a man like that?” said Conchita Sarnoff of the Washington, D.C.-based nonprofit Alliance to Rescue Victims of Trafficking, Fox reported. Ms. Sarnoff also authored a book on Mr. Epstein titled “TrafficKing.” Mr. Epstein was arrested in 2005 and signed a plea agreement in 2007 with the U.S. Attorney’s Office, accepting a single charge of soliciting prostitution. He agreed to a 30-month sentence, registered as a “Tier 1” sex offender with the U.S. Virgin Islands and paid dozens of young girls under a federal statute providing for compensation to victims of child sexual abuse.
Quote: Hillary Clinton Is Not a Feminist Since Hillary announced that her husband would be joining her on the campaign trail, people have been debating whether or not it’s fair for the GOP to attack Bill’s sexual misdeeds in order to indirectly attack her. This makes sense. After all, we’re talking about a guy who has been accused of the sexual assault of more than ten women. Think about it: How is her appointing him really any different than if she’d appointed Bill Cosby? But here’s the thing: The real issue isn’t whether or not to attack Bill to indirectly attack Hillary — it’s about directly attacking Hillary for how she herself treated the women involved. Hillary Clinton claims to be pro-women, yet has actively worked to ruin lives of so many of them. She’s running on a “feminist platform” — she’s even dared to say that sexual-assault survivors have a “right to be believed” — despite the fact that what she did to the women who accused Bill went far beyond not believing them. She attacked them. When allegations of sexual misconduct emerged during Bill’s 1992 presidential run, she’s reported to have said “Who is going to find out? These women are trash. Nobody’s going to believe them.” Multiple people also report that she called the women “sluts” and “whores” — you know, for daring to be raped. A private investigator named Ivan Duda claims that, after Bill lost his second governor’s race, Hillary told him: “I want you to get rid of all these b****** he’s seeing . . . I want you to give me the names and addresses and phone numbers, and we can get them under control.”
Quote: Of the twenty-five people who signed the PNAC's founding statement of principles, ten went on to serve in the administration of U.S. President George W. Bush, including Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz.
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Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Is Bill running?
Monday, October 3, 2016 4:35 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Meanwhile, so it doesn't get lost in the noise Originally posted by 1kiki:
Monday, October 3, 2016 4:46 PM
Tuesday, October 4, 2016 1:59 AM
Tuesday, October 4, 2016 11:03 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Clinton will win.
Tuesday, October 4, 2016 12:11 PM
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