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Hillary Clinton: just because she deserves her own thread
Monday, August 1, 2016 5:21 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Saturday, August 6, 2016 9:33 PM
Sunday, August 7, 2016 10:16 AM
THGRRI
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Now that we've come to understated that the Great Pumpkin isn't going to 'push the button' because he thought the Chinese said his hands were too small ...
Sunday, August 7, 2016 1:48 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Tuesday, August 9, 2016 8:19 AM
Quote:Hillary Clinton is facing a lawsuit in the midst of her presidential campaign, as the parents of Americans slain in Benghazi have decided they have had enough and are suing her for wrongful death and defamation, among other things. The complaint was filed by the lawyer of Patricia Smith and Charles Woods, the mother and father of Sean Smith and Tyrone Woods, who were both killed in the 2012 Islamist attack on the US embassy in Benghazi, Libya. “During her campaign for President, Defendant Clinton has negligently, recklessly, and/or maliciously defamed Plaintiffs by either directly calling them liars, or by strongly implying that they are liars, in order to protect and enhance her public image and intimidate and emotionally harm and silence them not to speak up about the Benghazi attack on at least four separate occasions,” attorney Larry Klaiman wrote, in laying out the basis of the lawsuit. Smith recently spoke to RT about how Clinton has accused the victims’ parents of forgetting what she had or hadn’t said. “Please, tell the world what she’s really like,” Smith said in late June, after Clinton aggressively denied on-air that she had said what the victim’s parents say she said in a private conversation with them. The interview came on the heels of a report from House Republicans blaming the Obama administration for a lax response to the emergency at the US embassy compound in Libya, which called it deliberate. Smith claimed that Clinton had told her the attack was “the fault of the video…,” referring to a slanderous, low-budget, American-made film called 'Innocence of Muslims,' which was said to have gravely inflamed tensions around the time of the Benghazi attack. “And later when I mentioned that, she said she never said anything like that to me. How can a woman be this way!” Remarkably, that wasn’t the last time Clinton had called Smith a liar. Further complicating an increasingly questionable Benghazi narrative, at the end of July, the former secretary of state appeared on Fox News and said, “I don’t hold any ill feeling for someone who in that moment may not fully recall everything that was or wasn’t said.” Suspicions about Clinton’s character were raised again when she claimed that FBI Director James Comey said that she had told the truth when describing her use of a private server for classified and work-related correspondence, although it later emerged that the FBI director had said the exact opposite. Attorney for parents of two #Benghazi victims say they are trying to hold Hillary Clinton "personally liable" in new wrongful death suit — Scott MacFarlane (@MacFarlaneNews) August 8, 2016 Now, NBC is reporting that the parents of the victims have had enough and are suing Clinton on several counts. MORE: Parents of two #Benghazi victims also sue Hillary Clinton for Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress pic.twitter.com/16KsvjpWrr — Scott MacFarlane (@MacFarlaneNews) August 8, 2016 All day Monday, the network’s Seth McFarlane was tweeting out descriptions of the various charges – including wrongful death, negligence, and defamation. MORE: Parents of two #Benghazi victims also sue Hillary Clinton for Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress pic.twitter.com/16KsvjpWrr — Scott MacFarlane (@MacFarlaneNews) August 8, 2016 Clinton’s use of a private server will also be included in the lawsuit as a factor that possibly contributed to the embassy deaths. The Boston Herald asked a Clinton spokesman for comment, but received none. The attack on the American embassy in Benghazi took place on September 11, 2012. The investigation that followed, which cost US taxpayers $7 million, was highly contentious. It was eventually dubbed “one of the longest and most partisan congressional investigations in history” in a 344-page report compiled by House Democrats, which tried to absolve Clinton of any guilt or security lapses in the lead up to the death of US diplomats and personnel.
Tuesday, August 9, 2016 12:36 PM
Quote:Originally posted by G: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: KIKI thanks for the detailed examination of the DNC platform. I hope that's not your definition of "detailed" in your professional life. For instance: "Trade "On the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP), there are a diversity of views in the party." And that says it all. " - Kiki That's really not all - it also says: "While we believe that openness to the world economy is an important source of American leadership and dynamism, we will oppose trade agreements that do not support good American jobs, raise wages, and improve our national security. We believe any new trade agreements must include strong and enforceable labor and environmental standards in their core text with streamlined and effective enforcement mechanisms. Trade agreements should crack down on the unfair and illegal subsidies other countries grant their businesses at the expense of ours. It should promote innovation of and access to lifesaving medicines. And it should protect a free and open internet. We should never enter into a trade agreement that prevents our government, or other governments, from putting in place rules that protect the environment, food safety, or the health of American citizens or others around the world. These are the standards Democrats believe must be applied to all trade agreements, including the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP)." One should also keep in mind that regardless of party, the Platform is considered by most people more as guidelines than written in stone. What else could it be? The world is constantly changing and evolving.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: KIKI thanks for the detailed examination of the DNC platform.
Wednesday, August 10, 2016 7:47 AM
Quote:The insurgent candidacies of Sen. Bernie Sanders (Vt.) and real estate mogul Donald Trump in the Democratic and Republican primaries, respectively — one uplifting and the other disturbing — together with the Brexit vote, have brought forth an unusual outpouring of discussion on the weaknesses of democratic governance in the high-income countries. There seems to be considerable agreement that all three of these unanticipated political earthquakes of 2016 are driven by discontent with a "democratic deficit." In the next few days and weeks, we will have a rare opportunity to see, close-up and raw, a historic effort to reduce that deficit. The venue is the Democratic Party platform committee and the main event is the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP). If that sounds like inside baseball, it could easily become the World Series of this year's presidential race. And if presumptive Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton is smart, she will reconsider her bet. The TPP, a commercial agreement among 12 countries with 40 percent of the world's gross domestic product (GDP), is strongly disliked by the base of the Democratic Party, as well as by a sizable majority of Democratic voters and the general public. There's an awful lot not to like about this thing. Drafted mostly by corporations, negotiated in secret, with restricted access even for members of Congress, the deal would grant corporations the right to sue governments for all kinds of decisions, laws or regulations that infringe on their profits or potential profits. The lawsuits would be decided by a panel of private lawyers and their decisions could overrule our Congress and Supreme Court: The overlapping issues of national sovereignty and democracy are once again brought to the fore. Patent-boosting rules favored by pharmaceutical companies would increase the price of prescription drugs. And the economic gains, even as estimated by pro-TPP economists, are tiny: By their estimates, the agreement would make the U.S. as rich on January 1, 2030 as it would otherwise be by mid-March of the same year. Sanders campaigned against the TPP, and Clinton — who had previously praised it as "the gold standard in trade agreements" while serving as secretary of State — has also come out against it. On June 24, at a meeting in St. Louis that produced a draft platform for the Democratic Party, Rep. Keith Ellison (Minn.) introduced language opposing the TPP. But it was defeated by a vote of 10–5, with only the five Sanders representatives supporting [defeating] it. Everyone familiar with this process knows that Clinton has enormous influence over her delegates and representatives on the platform committee. So if the Democratic Party is unable to oppose the TPP, it will be because of her decision to keep it from doing so.
Wednesday, August 10, 2016 8:15 AM
Wednesday, August 10, 2016 8:22 AM
Quote:Michael Morell 9who has many ties with Hillary] former deputy director of the CIA, suggested on Monday that the United States should support more aggressive action by Syrian rebels in the civil war. "When we were in Iraq, the Iranians were giving weapons to the Shi'a militia, who were killing American soldiers," Morell told "CBS This Morning" co-host Charlie Rose. "The Iranians were making us pay a price. We need to make the Iranians pay a price in Syria. We need to make the Russians pay a price." He went on to explain making them "pay the price" would mean killing Russians and Iranians, and said he wants to make Syrian president Bashar al-Assad uncomfortable. "I want to go after those things that Assad sees as his personal power base. I want to scare Assad." See the rest of Rose's interview with Morell Monday night on the "Charlie Rose Show" on PBS.
Wednesday, August 10, 2016 1:37 PM
Quote:Originally posted by G: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: The idea of focusing on one meaningless paragraph to the detriment of seeing the big picture is a real problem. If you do that, you won't see what's really going on. You are wrong of course. I didn't focus on one paragraph. I merely used it to show how Kiki's detailed analysis (and you understanding of analysis) was inaccurate. I stopped at the one, though I'm sure there are many more. I can't speak for the DNC. I can speak to your inaccuracies though. Here's another: You said, "So why would the DNC platform not reflect the near-universal opposition?" While the article you quoted said: "Sanders campaigned against the TPP, and Clinton — who had previously praised it as "the gold standard in trade agreements" while serving as secretary of State — has also come out against it. On June 24, at a meeting in St. Louis that produced a draft platform for the Democratic Party, Rep. Keith Ellison (Minn.) introduced language opposing the TPP. But it was defeated by a vote of 10–5, with only the five Sanders representatives supporting [defeating] it." 10-5 is hardly "near universal." Plus, it shows Hillary coming out against it. It's really simple SIGNYM. When you and Kiki stopped posting so many slanted and inaccurate details I'll stop posting about you 2, and we can get on with comparing and analyzing known facts.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: The idea of focusing on one meaningless paragraph to the detriment of seeing the big picture is a real problem. If you do that, you won't see what's really going on.
Thursday, August 11, 2016 7:45 AM
Quote:You are wrong of course. I didn't focus on one paragraph.-GSTRING
Quote:You said, "So why would the DNC platform not reflect the near-universal opposition?" While the article you quoted said: "Sanders campaigned against the TPP, and Clinton — who had previously praised it as "the gold standard in trade agreements" while serving as secretary of State — has also come out against it. On June 24, at a meeting in St. Louis that produced a draft platform for the Democratic Party, Rep. Keith Ellison (Minn.) introduced language opposing the TPP. But it was defeated by a vote of 10–5, with only the five Sanders representatives supporting [defeating] it." 10-5 is hardly "near universal."
Quote:Plus, it shows Hillary coming out against it.
Thursday, August 11, 2016 7:59 AM
Quote:The mysterious circumstances surrounding the death of 27-year-old Democratic-staffer Seth Rich (shot multiple times, and not robbed, at 420am near his home in Washington D.C., where no homicides have been reported within 1500 feet) have stirred Wikileaks founder Julian Assange to offer a $20,000 reward for information leading to a conviction. But it is Assange's comments during a Dutch TV interview that are most disturbing as he hinted that Rich - who was in charge of DNC voter expansion data - was the email-leaker and his death was a politically-motivated assassination.
Quote: ...And as you might have guessed, there are major inconsistencies with Ashe’s death. It was not only conveniently timed because Ashe died just a few days before being set to testify against Clinton in a corruption case, but official reports indicated he died of a heart attack. The problem, however, is that police on the scene reported Ashe died when his throat was crushed during a work-out accident. The New York Post’s Page Six reported that after Ashe was found dead Wednesday, the U.N. claimed that he had died from a heart attack. Local police officers in Dobbs Ferry, New York, later disputed that claim, saying instead that he died from a workout accident that crushed his throat. Adding to the mysterious nature of Ashe’s death was the fact that he had been slated to be in court Monday with his Chinese businessman co-defendant Ng Lap Seng, from whom he reportedly received over $1 billion in donations during his term as president of the U.N. General Assembly. And then there was this: During the presidency of Bill Clinton, Seng illegally funneled several hundred thousand dollars to the Democrat National Committee. Source: The Conservative Tribune via The Daily Sheeple It must be coincidence, right?
Quote:Amid the media-hyped furor over Donald Trump's 2nd Amendment comments and Wikileaks' suggestions about the untimely death of DNC-staffer Seth Rich, we thought it perhaps of note that Democratic strategist, and CNN host, has publicly called for the "illegal assassination of that son-of-a-bitch" Julian Assange...[in 2010]
Thursday, August 11, 2016 8:13 AM
Quote:Newly Released Emails Highlight Clinton Foundation’s Ties to State Department In one email exchange released by Judicial Watch, Doug Band, an executive at the Clinton Foundation tried to put billionaire donor Gilbert Chagoury -- a convicted money launderer -- in touch with the U.S. ambassador to Lebanon because of the donor’s interests there. In the email, Band notes that Chagoury is a “key guy there [Lebanon] and to us,” and insists Clinton aide Huma Abedin call Ambassador Jeffrey Feltman to connect him with Chagoury.
Quote:Chagoury is a close friend of former President Bill Clinton and has appeared on the Clinton Foundation donor list as a $1 million to $5 million contributor. He’s also pledged $1 billion to the Clinton Global Initiative. Chagoury was convicted in 2000 in Switzerland for money laundering. He cut a deal and agreed to repay $66 million to the Nigerian government.
Quote:In another email from April 2009, Band [Clinton Foundation executive] seems to pressure Clinton’s [State Dept] aides Cheryl Mills and Abedin into hiring a foundation associate. In the email, Band writes it’s “important to take care of [name redacted].” Abedin responds, telling Band, “Personnel has been sending him options.”
Thursday, August 11, 2016 10:39 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: ANOTHER HILLARY LEAKER, ANOTHER DEAD BODY Wikileaks' Assange Hints Murdered DNC Staffer Was Email-Leaker, Offers $20k Reward For Info Quote:The mysterious circumstances surrounding the death of 27-year-old Democratic-staffer Seth Rich (shot multiple times, and not robbed, at 420am near his home in Washington D.C., where no homicides have been reported within 1500 feet) have stirred Wikileaks founder Julian Assange to offer a $20,000 reward for information leading to a conviction. But it is Assange's comments during a Dutch TV interview that are most disturbing as he hinted that Rich - who was in charge of DNC voter expansion data - was the email-leaker and his death was a politically-motivated assassination. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-10/wikileaks-assange-hints-murdered-dnc-staffer-was-email-leaker-offers-20k-reward-info Along those same lines ... U.N. Official 'Accidentally' Crushes Own Throat Right Before Testifying Against Hillary Clinton Quote: ...And as you might have guessed, there are major inconsistencies with Ashe’s death. It was not only conveniently timed because Ashe died just a few days before being set to testify against Clinton in a corruption case, but official reports indicated he died of a heart attack. The problem, however, is that police on the scene reported Ashe died when his throat was crushed during a work-out accident. The New York Post’s Page Six reported that after Ashe was found dead Wednesday, the U.N. claimed that he had died from a heart attack. Local police officers in Dobbs Ferry, New York, later disputed that claim, saying instead that he died from a workout accident that crushed his throat. Adding to the mysterious nature of Ashe’s death was the fact that he had been slated to be in court Monday with his Chinese businessman co-defendant Ng Lap Seng, from whom he reportedly received over $1 billion in donations during his term as president of the U.N. General Assembly. And then there was this: During the presidency of Bill Clinton, Seng illegally funneled several hundred thousand dollars to the Democrat National Committee. Source: The Conservative Tribune via The Daily Sheeple It must be coincidence, right? http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-02/un-official-accidentally-crushes-own-throat-right-testifying-against-hillary-clinton AND .... Quote:Amid the media-hyped furor over Donald Trump's 2nd Amendment comments and Wikileaks' suggestions about the untimely death of DNC-staffer Seth Rich, we thought it perhaps of note that Democratic strategist, and CNN host, has publicly called for the "illegal assassination of that son-of-a-bitch" Julian Assange...[in 2010] -------------- I think it's time you disabused yourself of that pleasant little fairy tale about our fearless leaders being some sort of surrogate daddy or mommy, laying awake at night thinking about how to protect the kids. HA! In reality, they're thinking about who to sell them to so that they can get a few more shekels in their pockets.
Thursday, August 11, 2016 10:47 AM
Thursday, August 11, 2016 10:58 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Uh huh. You might have noticed this is a REAL WORLD EVENT discussion forum... something you seem to by 120% incapable of. Because, as usual, you have nothing to say that's ON TOPIC, you just post personal attacks (which BTW are off-base). Somehow, you can't seem to tell the difference. I said I would never call you "stupid" again, in deference to your apparent cognitive dysfunction. So here's a piece of SIMPLE advice that can be followed to stay out of trouble: Eliminate ANY SENTENCE with the word "you" in it. Give that a try. It might help. -------------- I think it's time you disabused yourself of that pleasant little fairy tale about our fearless leaders being some sort of surrogate daddy or mommy, laying awake at night thinking about how to protect the kids. HA! In reality, they're thinking about who to sell them to so that they can get a few more shekels in their pockets.
Thursday, August 11, 2016 12:58 PM
Friday, August 12, 2016 10:34 AM
Quote:More leaked e-mails from Hillary Clinton’s time as Secretary of State prove that she was taking foreign policy advice from left-wing billionaire activist George Soros. An e-mail provided by WikiLeaks showed Soros reaching out to Secretary Clinton over a foreign policy dispute in Albania. Hillary Clinton George Soros email “Dear Hillary, “A serious situation has arisen in Albania which needs urgent attention at senior levels of the US government. You may know that an opposition demonstration in Tirana on Friday resulted in the deaths of three people and the destruction of property. “There are serious concerns about further unrest connected to a counter-demonstration to be organized by the governing party on Wednesday and a follow-up event by the opposition two days later to memorialize the victims. “The prospect of tens of thousands of people entering the streets in an already inflamed political environment bodes ill for the return of public order and the country’s fragile democratic process.” Soros urges the then-Secretary of State to get the international community involved and pressure the Prime Minister to “forestall further demonstrations” and “tone down public pronouncements” as well appointing a senior European official to act as the mediator.
Quote:A federal official on Wednesday said the U.S. Secret Service had not formally spoken with Republican Donald Trump's presidential campaign regarding his suggestion a day earlier that gun rights activists could stop Democratic rival Hillary Clinton from curtailing their access to firearms. Following Trump's comment at a rally on Tuesday in which he suggested that gun rights activists could stop Clinton from appointing liberal anti-gun justices to the U.S. Supreme Court, a federal official familiar with the matter told Reuters that there had been no formal conversations between the Secret Service and the Trump campaign. Earlier CNN had reported that there had been multiple conversations between the campaign and the agency.
Friday, August 12, 2016 1:55 PM
Quote: SIG THUGR: When I what? Are you responding to the voices in your head again? GSTRING, THUGR: I'm just responding in-kind to your posts. If you don't want to be name-called, try not starting it. Even kids in k-garten have figured that out, but apparently you missed an important developmental milestone somewhere along the way.
Quote: SIG I will second source my Zerohedge posts, I promise. I'm just kind of busy right now to provide links to all of the stories, but I did double check them on the media that you "believe".
Quote: SIG (That's how I know that calling for Assange's assassination happened in 2010, not 2016). But EVEN WITH SOURCES THAT YOU "BELIEVE", I DOUBT THAT YOU WILL RESPOND BY DISCUSSING THE POINTS BROUGHT UP.
Quote: SIG You will either say it's "old news" or "no big deal" or something along those lines, just so you can avoid discussing the implications of Hillary's history. (I hope KRAPO puts that in the predictions thread, because THAT is a prediction that's easy to make! But I doubt it, because KRAPO is a biased arbiter.)
Saturday, August 13, 2016 7:09 AM
Quote:Not all insults are words or name-calling, and not all of them are as obvious as yours.
Saturday, August 13, 2016 7:34 AM
Quote:When I what? Are you responding to the voices in your head again? -SIGNY I'm just responding in-kind to your posts. If you don't want to be name-called, try not starting it. Even kids in k-garten have figured that out, but apparently you missed an important developmental milestone somewhere along the way. -SIGNY NO SIG you are not responding to what I post.
Quote:You are always the one driving the message.
Quote:A message with an agenda that is anti-American.
Quote:As for you calling me names, I couldn’t be happier.
Quote:Your calls for less insults and name calling amongst each other always includes an insult. Lol, so I’m good comrade.
Quote: I will second source my Zerohedge posts, I promise. I'm just kind of busy right now to provide links to all of the stories, but I did double check them on the media that you "believe". -SIGNY So what you are saying is that sourcing a fake news outlet where the writers hide their identities is ok with you. -THUGR
Quote: (That's how I know that calling for Assange's assassination happened in 2010, not 2016). But EVEN WITH SOURCES THAT YOU "BELIEVE", I DOUBT THAT YOU WILL RESPOND BY DISCUSSING THE POINTS BROUGHT UP. -SIGNY First this is a subjective statement.=THUGR
Quote:Second, you are trying to turn my responses to you in a direction that better suits your agenda. Not going to happen comrade.
Quote:You will either say it's "old news" or "no big deal" or something along those lines, just so you can avoid discussing the implications of Hillary's history. (I hope KRAPO puts that in the predictions thread, because THAT is a prediction that's easy to make! But I doubt it, because KRAPO is a biased arbiter.)- SIGNY No, what I will do is what I have always done. Name-call. Because, when I'm totally incompetent to discuss the topic, that's what I do -THGUR
Quote:Further let me point out, that in the same post where you challenge us to insult each other less, you have presented us with a post full of said insults.
Saturday, August 13, 2016 8:10 AM
Saturday, August 13, 2016 8:32 AM
Quote:Multiple FBI investigations are underway involving potential corruption charges against the Clinton Foundation, according to a former senior law enforcement official. The investigation centers on New York City where the Clinton Foundation has its main offices, according to the former official who has direct knowledge of the activities. Prosecutorial support will come from various U.S. Attorneys Offices — a major departure from other centralized FBI investigations. The New York-based probe is being led by Preet Bharara, the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York. Bharara’s prosecutorial aggressiveness has resulted in a large number of convictions of banks, hedge funds and Wall Street insiders.
Saturday, August 13, 2016 11:09 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I'm glad MAL5PREZ is gone. She, like SECOND (and you) could never manage to stay on topic. ANYthing to avoid discussing the discussion! Back on topic. But according to an exclusive report, (before you ask for multiple sources, please look up the word "exclusive") that investigation is back on again. EXCLUSIVE: Joint FBI-US Attorney Probe Of Clinton Foundation Is Underway . . . http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/11/exclusive-joint-fbi-us-attorney-probe-of-clinton-foundation-is-underway/
Saturday, August 13, 2016 5:43 PM
Saturday, August 13, 2016 5:55 PM
Sunday, August 14, 2016 8:31 AM
Quote:You pretty much have listed everyone on this site but Kiki and JSF as stupid. THAT should tell you something.-G
Quote:Did you hear both candidates speeches on the economy?
Quote:Where did you get those Hillary is sick videos I keep asking about?
Quote:Did this CNN video - which I discussed and you have failed to ("stay on topic!") come in that same batch or was that in the next day's anti-Hillary email instructions? Like it or not, where you and Rumplekiki get your instructions IS part of the topic of this election, try as you might to deny and deflect from that.
Quote:Simple Stupid questions even you could answer.
Sunday, August 14, 2016 11:15 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Now, back to Trump and Saint Hillary. If you're talking about the top 0.01%, or international corporations, the nominal tax rate REALLY DOESN'T MATTER. Hillary can raise it to 30% for the wealthy. Trump can lower it to 15% for business. The ultra wealthy and their corporations, who have access to tax breaks and international financial law firms, NEVER PAY THE NOMINAL RATE ANYWAY. I'm sorry, but they don't, they just don't.
Sunday, August 14, 2016 11:30 AM
Quote:We don't know what Trump pays because he broke his promise to release his tax returns, but Hillary and Bill Clinton paid an effective federal tax rate of 34.2% in 2015. In 2014 they paid an effective rate of 35.7%.
Sunday, August 14, 2016 11:35 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: And avoided taxes on $1 million dollars of a $10 million income income by donating to their favorite charity ... the Clinton Foundation! I've spoken disparagingly in the past about the wealthy and their foundations. Quite often, the foundations are ways to further business or political goals in a tax sheltered way. AFA what I said about the overall effect of raising tax rates on the wealthy (will tap those who can't escape) or lowering tax rates on business (will benefit small and medium-sized businesses based in the USA) ... talking about nominal tax rates is kind of a dodge unless you also tax about TAX LAW. The taxes that are paid are so subject to what it considered taxable, and the kinds of deductions that individuals and businesses can take, that talking about changing the nominal tax rate is meaningless without further discussion. For example, if Trump has said that he was going to lower the nominal corporate tax to 15% but eliminate loopholes, special considerations, and subsidies, that would have been more meaningful Reagan, you may recall, lowered the nominal individual tax rates, but then eliminated so many deductions (like interest paid on ANY debt) that the middle class actually wound up paying more.
Sunday, August 14, 2016 12:45 PM
Sunday, August 14, 2016 12:51 PM
Monday, August 15, 2016 12:42 AM
SHINYGOODGUY
Monday, August 15, 2016 12:44 AM
Monday, August 15, 2016 12:56 AM
Monday, August 15, 2016 12:39 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: I'm preparing for her reign is by getting my "I told you so" posts ready ahead of time.
Monday, August 15, 2016 12:41 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: How much did the Clintons hide in their foundation, do you think?
Monday, August 15, 2016 5:14 PM
Monday, August 22, 2016 8:32 PM
Tuesday, August 23, 2016 3:11 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: So now that the Hillarities* can rest assured Hillary will be elected, maybe they can comfortably examine her faults. Because, yanno, unless she's a saint, she has them. But if people CAN'T admit she has any faults, then I'll continue to call her Saint Hillary, out of respect for their obvious reverence for her pristine holiness. * FWIW I've been an equal opportunity insulter. I call people who support Trump 'Trumpettes'. Well, I did, up until I watched Samantha Bee and found out they actually refer to themselves that way. I have yet to come up with a new nickname.
Friday, August 26, 2016 6:47 AM
Quote:Just as an aside, working as I do at a government agency, we ALL know about record-retention, down to the lowest employee. It would be incomprehensible that Hillary, a long-time Senator, wife of a former President, and fully-read-in head of the State Department, "not know" about record retention. So that explains her 30,000 deleted emails and her incomplete submitted schedules and her burned daily ones? This woman is clearly "cleaning up" her data. Just OOC, I wonder if the FBI has tried a forensic reconstruction of her server's hard drives. If they have ... and if the drives are unreadable ... that certainly implies that the erasure was more than just casual, because it takes a lot of rewrites to fully eliminate data from a disc. - SIGNY
Quote:We already know that the trove of Clinton’s work-related emails is incomplete. In his comments on Tuesday, Comey declared, “The FBI … discovered several thousand work-related e-mails that were not in the group of 30,000 that were returned by Secretary Clinton to State in 2014.” We also already know that some of those work-related emails could be permanently deleted. Indeed, according to Comey, “It is also likely that there are other work-related e-mails that [Clinton and her team] did not produce to State and that we did not find elsewhere, and that are now gone because they deleted all emails they did not return to State, and the lawyers cleaned their devices in such a way as to preclude complete forensic recovery.” A brief, semi-technical explanation: as the head records on the hard drive, the track of the head 'wanders' a bit, causing leakage recording along either side. When you 'delete' a file, what the computer does is not 'erase' date - it simply tells the computer that certain areas on the hard drive are now available to be recorded over. With the proper software, you can easily read the ones and zeros on those sectors, and recover all the information, intact (unless it's already been over-written). To actually erase data, you have to record over those sectors with random ones and zeros ... not once - because you need to erase the 'leakage' information - but multiple times. Otherwise the data is still FORENSICALLY recoverable. In other words - somebody didn't just 'delete' the files. They wrote over those sectors, and only those sectors, and re-wrote over them, and re-re-wrote - and so on - until no trace of the data remained. That that data was well and truly erased indicates a CONCERTED and technical effort on Clinton's part to get rid of ... well ... we'll never know. But it was roughly HALF of whatever was there. Yep. Apparently, HALF of her emails on her private server set up for work, were "personal". Why does this matter? Because Clinton signed documents declaring she had turned over all of her work-related emails. We now know that is not true. But even more importantly, the absence of emails raises troubling questions about the nature of the correspondence that might have been deleted.
Quote:Hillary Clinton’s lawyers used a special tool to delete emails from her personal server so that “even God can’t read them,” House Select Committee on Benghazi Chairman Trey Gowdy said on Thursday. Gowdy (R-S.C.) said the use of BleachBit, computer software whose website advertises that it can “prevent recovery” of files, is further proof that Clinton had something to hide in deleting personal emails from the private email system she used during her tenure as secretary of state. Clinton has long said that the deleted emails were all of a personal nature, relating largely to yoga and her daughter’s wedding, but Gowdy said he did not know whether the Democratic nominee considered emails pertaining to the Clinton Foundation to be personal. It’s a question he said he hopes reporters ask Clinton the next chance they get. “She and her lawyers had those emails deleted. And they didn’t just push the delete button; they had them deleted where even God can’t read them,” Gowdy said Thursday morning during an interview on Fox News’ “America’s Newsroom.” “They were using something called BleachBit. You don’t use BleachBit for yoga emails or bridemaids emails. When you’re using BleachBit, it is something you really do not want the world to see.” The South Carolina congressman said Clinton’s previous statements, chiefly her disproved statement that she did not send or receive classified information on her private server, should inform whether or not the public believes her when she says Clinton Foundation donors were never granted special treatment by her State Department. A screenshot of the BleachBit program. A screenshot of the BleachBit program. | BleachBit screenshot Presented with audio from a Wednesday-night Clinton interview on CNN in which she said “there is a lot of smoke and there’s no fire,” Gowdy scoffed. “It's arson. It's pyromania. It's not smoke. Even listening to her talk about the Clinton Foundation, I couldn't help but go back and remember the press conference she gave on her emails where every single thing she said proved to be false,” he said. “That’s the interesting thing about credibility and believability: You can't just keep it in one compartment. When you are a habitual, serial liar in this facet of life, it tends to make people not believe you in other facets of life. So when she’s talking about the Clinton Foundation, I go back and remember her saying there’s no classified information, I only used one device, I did it for convenience. All of which were proven to be false.” On its website, BleachBit touted the mention from Gowdy in an orange box on its homepage, misquoting the congressman slightly as it sought to take advantage of the free media attention: "South Carolina Rep. Trey Gowdy says Hillary Clinton deleted emails 'so even God couldn't read them' using BleachBit."
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Quote:A technology company that provided the program Hillary Clinton's team used to scrub her private server of emails bragged on its website Thursday that it had prevented the FBI from accessing deleted records. BleachBit, the publicly-available application that was used to deleted some of Clinton's emails ahead of an FBI investigation, said it had not yet been served a subpoena over its involvement in the destruction of potentially classified records. A headline on the company's website read: "BleachBit stifles investigation of Hillary Clinton." Rep. Trey Gowdy brought the involvement of the program to light Thursday when he told Fox News that Clinton's emails were so fully deleted that "even God can't read them."
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Quote:Signy The logic behind the Hillarities is a bit like the logic of an abused spouse - my spouse doesn't really hit me; my spouse doesn't really mean it; and it's not a lot; and not too often; and not too hard; and it doesn't hurt that much; at least, not for very long; and I've never been to the hospitable; I can manage it; and it's always for a reason; I can figure out how to do better ... NOTHING wrong with Hillary MATTERS. There's always a denial, reason, a minimization.= KIKI
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