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TRUMP - Just because.....................Naw, I just can't say it!
Wednesday, August 3, 2016 10:49 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:It applies to you. YOU'RE the one calling Trump a Hitler, and YOU'RE the one backing a candidate who compared Putin to Hitler. The person throwing around those "Hitler" comparisons is you and your candidate, dearie. You've just demonstrated another liberal-logic-fail. But I've discovered that if you scratch a liberal, what do you find under the skin? A dictator! -SIGNY *snort* another Signym fail. Really, you need to read your posts. You just said, "Nuh-uh! You're Hitler!"
Quote:One of Trump's recent tweets - using the "2 word slogan rule" mandated by the Trump campaign because their followers can only hold 2 words in their head at any time - links to a story at the NYPost. Funny enough, on the very same page are 2 stories about his wife Melania. I have blurred them for public consumption. The actual web page is much more explicit. The story titles are bad enough: Melania Trump's girl-on-girl photos from racy shoot revealed Melania Trump like you've never seen her before
Wednesday, August 3, 2016 12:46 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: You really believe that, don't you? Holy shit, SECOND, whatever happened to your reasonableness? And that picture that you posted??? It applies to you. YOU'RE the one calling Trump a Hitler, and YOU'RE the one backing a candidate who compared Putin to Hitler. The person throwing around those "Hitler" comparisons is you and your candidate, dearie. You've just demonstrated another liberal-logic-fail. But I've discovered that if you scratch a liberal, what do you find under the skin? A dictator!
Wednesday, August 3, 2016 12:53 PM
THGRRI
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: "I'll let those who wish to waste their time fact check what else you posted. Me, I know you post subjectively (to confuse an issue so people believe an untruth) so I won't waste my time further." Yes, I did just that, wasted my time I mean, but to prove a point. Senate supporters were 34 Republicans and 27 Democrats. Clinton signed it into law on December 8, 1993; the agreement went into effect on January 1, 1994. Source: BING search; Wikipedia on NAFTA. The point you make about our little comrades is spot on; they often conflate information to confound and confuse and present it as fact......i.e. Hillary's decades long "lying" record: "And she has a decades-long history of lying about her positions on free-trade agreements. And she has a decades-long history of lying about Libya, and Ukraine, and Syria ... and Russia. The very structure of that sentence is factually wrong. For one, the NAFTA agreement was championed by her husband, Bill Clinton as POTUS. Backed by both sides of the aisle as shown above. Hillary had nothing to do with it, but you knew that (and so do they). She may have supported it, that's about as far as one could take it. And (b), Libya, Ukraine, Syria and Russia all happened within the last 5 years. I know it's a technicality, but you know how our "friends" profusely expound upon their presentation of the "facts"; so I'm splitting hairs here. Then they complete their confusing contributions by claiming that certain media outlets provide few facts, thereby nullifying any contributions others may make in presenting their arguments. An old T-Bag tactic. The MSM argument is just such a misleading POV. All media, including our good friends at Fox, are mainstream (they are owned and operated by giant media moguls who put forth their own biases and prejudices). That, of course, is different than having a candidate standing at a podium and lying through their teeth. That is a fact that cannot be denied, no matter who the politico is. If one wishes to claim Hillary is a liar and cannot be trusted, that's hyperbole and opinion, not fact and cannot be enter as such unless one has incontrovertible proof. I'm talking smoking gun proof. Otherwise it's assumption, inference......not fact. Funny, the FBI investigated, but did not arrest or recommend prosecution. Odd, because there are those that suggest that "crooked" Hillary is so powerful that she can "influence" the FBI. We all know that life exists on other planets, but............... SGG
Wednesday, August 3, 2016 12:58 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: This election is over. This proves his stupidity and how dangerous it would be to elect this moron to anything. If the Republican party doesn't split from Trump they are doomed as well. Don't being going there because Trump still has a pretty good chance of becoming President. I think it is significant that Trump's chance of winning is the same chance as losing at a game of Russian Roulette with two bullets in the revolver -- 33.3%. If I were Putin, I would try to put another Trump brand bullet or two in the six-shooter in hopes that the USA would pull the trigger. http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/ The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: This election is over. This proves his stupidity and how dangerous it would be to elect this moron to anything. If the Republican party doesn't split from Trump they are doomed as well.
Wednesday, August 3, 2016 1:04 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:It applies to you. YOU'RE the one calling Trump a Hitler, and YOU'RE the one backing a candidate who compared Putin to Hitler. The person throwing around those "Hitler" comparisons is you and your candidate, dearie. You've just demonstrated another liberal-logic-fail. But I've discovered that if you scratch a liberal, what do you find under the skin? A dictator! -SIGNY *snort* another Signym fail. Really, you need to read your posts. You just said, "Nuh-uh! You're Hitler!" No, YOU need to re-read my post. Did I say that liberals are "Hitler"? No. I said "tyrant". There are plenty to choose from besides Hitler. Quote:One of Trump's recent tweets - using the "2 word slogan rule" mandated by the Trump campaign because their followers can only hold 2 words in their head at any time - links to a story at the NYPost. Funny enough, on the very same page are 2 stories about his wife Melania. I have blurred them for public consumption. The actual web page is much more explicit. The story titles are bad enough: Melania Trump's girl-on-girl photos from racy shoot revealed Melania Trump like you've never seen her before I noticed something about the MSM and their coverage of the candidates. Something more insidious than their pandering to voyeurism and irrationality. I'm going to wait and see if anyone has noticed the same thing, because it's darn peculiar.
Wednesday, August 3, 2016 1:45 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: In other words you are making shit up. Nothing unusual here.
Wednesday, August 3, 2016 3:06 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Wednesday, August 3, 2016 6:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: It's funny to me how you try and blame NAFTA on Hillary because her husband passed it. I didn't say that, idiot. And CONGRESS passed it. Bill SIGNED IT INTO LAW AS PRESIDENT. And Hillary was cheerleading it all the way - until it became politically inconvenient in 2000 and then she started lying about what role Bill and his administration had in it. AS PER THE PBS TIMELINE I POSTED. What's the matter? You can't read English? You don't know how the US government works? Then you need to go back to Estonia, where you belong.
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Wednesday, August 3, 2016 9:53 PM
MAL4PREZ
Wednesday, August 3, 2016 10:01 PM
Thursday, August 4, 2016 12:53 AM
Thursday, August 4, 2016 1:17 AM
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Thursday, August 4, 2016 2:17 AM
Thursday, August 4, 2016 8:00 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: BTW I never watch videos. They're for people who can't read and don't think.
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Fortunately I don't have to vote for Donald to not vote for Hillary. So all your blah blah about him just rolls on by.
Thursday, August 4, 2016 11:07 AM
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Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Are you saying your videos have the same thought, complexity and imagination of Firefly? That your simplistic propaganda compares with a complete story?
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: The freedom to vote your conscience: it's called democracy, cupcake. Get over it.
Thursday, August 4, 2016 7:26 PM
Thursday, August 4, 2016 8:42 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Have the guns come out yet? If not, this belongs in the predictions thread and it's not the fact you state it as being. Yep. But freedom only exists in fact, as opposed to in theory, when it gets exercised. And in the real world it means choosing your course of action and accepting the consequences of that choice.
Thursday, August 4, 2016 8:46 PM
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Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: "Has South Korea, USA friend, built an A Bomb and test fired it yet? Then no need for 1kiki to worry that soon-to-be-President Trump encourages them to build the Bomb to match N Korea's arsenal." Because Trump is dictator of S Korea? Or the US? Really? Whatever.
Thursday, August 4, 2016 10:00 PM
Friday, August 5, 2016 6:28 AM
SHINYGOODGUY
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Are you saying your videos have the same thought, complexity and imagination of Firefly? That your simplistic propaganda compares with a complete story? 1kiki, yammer on about this "simplistic" story. Trump is in the center. I'd show you the video of Trump and his henchmen, but you're so superior you'd call it propaganda, even though it is just Trump being a jackass and the crowd cheering him: The simple truth of American politics—and of democratic life at large—is that our institutions are only as strong as the norms around them. Trump crossed one of the brightest lines in American politics, the one that deals directly with our tradition of peaceful transfer of power. “I’m afraid the election is going to be rigged, I have to be honest,” he said to a crowd in Columbus, Ohio. He followed up on this in an interview with Fox News’ Sean Hannity. “I’m telling you, November 8th, we’d better be careful because that election is going to be rigged. And I hope the Republicans are watching closely, or it’s going to be taken away from us.” Roger Stone, a longtime adviser to Trump, said that Trump should start talking “constantly” about the chance of voter fraud and a rigged election. “He needs to say for example, today would be a perfect example: ‘I am leading in Florida. The polls all show it. If I lose Florida, we will know that there’s voter fraud.’ ” Stone continued in this vein. “ ‘If there’s voter fraud, this election will be illegitimate, the election of the winner will be illegitimate, we will have a constitutional crisis, widespread civil disobedience, and the government will no longer be the government.’ ” From here, Stone’s language gets ominous. “If you can’t have an honest election, nothing else counts,” he said. “The government will be shut down if they attempt to steal this and swear Hillary in. No, we will not stand for it. We will not stand for it,” Stone said, promising a “bloodbath” of “civil disobedience.” Trump is a major party leader in an age of rigid partisanship. Not only has this bound reluctant lawmakers to his campaign, but it’s given him a definite floor for votes in the general election. If he loses, it won’t be a landslide. It might even be close. Which makes this language dangerous. A Donald Trump who accuses the Democratic campaign of fraud—who says Hillary stole the election from him—is one who has allies and enablers within his party. It’s one who has an audience with millions of voters, primed to believe in an epidemic of fraud and stolen elections, where “fraud” often means black and Latino voting. What happens if Trump loses the election, and he claims fraud? What happens when hundreds of thousands of his most loyal followers—fed on a diet of anger and rage—convince themselves that the race was stolen from their tribune? For the sake of his own ego, Trump is stoking fear and distrust just so he can lose the election without losing face. www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/08/trump_s_rigged_comments_are_corrosive_and_dangerous.html Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: The freedom to vote your conscience: it's called democracy, cupcake. Get over it.You're rhapsodizing, again, about freedom. There are limits to how successful you can be, but failure can be infinite in a democracy. Example: The Confederate States of America and all those millions of patriotic slavery benefiting citizens, who were really serious about voting their conscience and making themselves into failures in life, commerce, morality and war. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Friday, August 5, 2016 8:15 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Do you really think Trump is the ONLY factor in this equation?
Friday, August 5, 2016 9:57 AM
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Quote:Originally posted by second: “What Kind Of Monster Will Not Pay A Children’s Band?” Donald Trump mocked for cheating trio of young girls. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Friday, August 5, 2016 1:47 PM
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Friday, August 5, 2016 7:20 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: To bring the discussion back to reality, as I mentioned earlier, the only things worth discussing are THINGS THAT CAN ACTUALLY HAPPEN. Hillary's position on global warming? It doesn't matter. Nothing about that is going to get through Congress - assuming she even bothers to spend any effort at all proposing it. In fact, with a few rare exceptions, THE ENTIRE DNC DRAFT PLATFORM IS A FANTASY. And Hillary and the DNC know it.
Friday, August 5, 2016 7:34 PM
Friday, August 5, 2016 8:10 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: "Nothing gets through the Republican majority in the House and Senate." Blame democrats. In the 2008 election the Democrats won the presidency, the House, and a super majority in the Senate. Since Obama took office, democrats lost the House to Republicans in 2010 , lost the Senate to Republicans in 2014, lost 12 governorships, and lost 910 state legislature seats.
Friday, August 5, 2016 8:25 PM
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Saturday, August 6, 2016 8:01 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: "Republican failures were forgotten by the so called Independent Voters" Unh hunh. You got a cite for that?
Saturday, August 6, 2016 1:06 PM
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Saturday, August 6, 2016 4:39 PM
REAVERFAN
Saturday, August 6, 2016 6:10 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: OH! Lookey that! You pulled another Geezer! Just to remind you, you've been whinging about what poor shape the democrats are in, needing Hillary to rescue them from a republican-dominated Congress. And I pointed out that WHEN OBAMA TOOK OFFICE, DEMOCRATS HAD A MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE AND A SUPERMAJORITY ON THE SENATE. Which they lost a mere two years later by a landslide. YOU blamed it on independents - no cite of course, even though I waited for one. Then I posted an analysis that showed DEMOCRATS STAYED HOME IN DROVES - many were unhappy with Obama's economic non-policy and a majority were unhappy with the DEMOCRATIC DOMINATED CONGRESS. Meanwhile, you keep flogging the democratic same-old same-old, which is why they lost congress - and keep losing more of it every year. Anything to say about that?
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