Sign Up | Log In
REAL WORLD EVENT DISCUSSIONS
Environment is a Weak Combatant.
Thursday, July 28, 2016 7:31 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Thursday, July 28, 2016 8:01 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: And money/profit trumps 100-year-old trees: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/city-investigating-tree-cutting-north-023314110.html?nhp=1
Friday, July 29, 2016 8:25 AM
REAVERFAN
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: (not fiction like Global Warming).
Friday, July 29, 2016 5:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: And money/profit trumps 100-year-old trees: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/city-investigating-tree-cutting-north-023314110.html?nhp=1 Looking at the street intersection on google maps, I see that the trees are not 100-year-old. But decide for yourself: https://goo.gl/maps/G2Cyaxbxfz22 www.bayviewridgegate.com/
Quote:
Saturday, July 30, 2016 3:39 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: And money/profit trumps 100-year-old trees: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/city-investigating-tree-cutting-north-023314110.html?nhp=1 Looking at the street intersection on google maps, I see that the trees are not 100-year-old. But decide for yourself: https://goo.gl/maps/G2Cyaxbxfz22 www.bayviewridgegate.com/ That image looks different than the googlemaps shot of Bayview Ridge and Bayview Avenue in Toronto. Although I often find details in MainStreamMedia to be fictional frequently and unclear at best.
Saturday, July 30, 2016 5:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: And that is why - the image you posted is the artist's presentation of how it will look AFTER THE TREES ARE ALL MOWED DOWN AND REPLACED WITH BUILDINGS!
Saturday, July 30, 2016 5:49 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Saturday, July 30, 2016 5:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: By report, the various functions of the city don't seem to agree on reality. Meanwhile, do developers ever cut down trees they're not permitted to cut down?
Saturday, July 30, 2016 6:07 PM
Saturday, July 30, 2016 6:52 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: I personally expressed no ire
Saturday, July 30, 2016 7:01 PM
Saturday, July 30, 2016 7:35 PM
Monday, August 1, 2016 8:31 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: By report, the various functions of the city don't seem to agree on reality. Meanwhile, do developers ever cut down trees they're not permitted to cut down?The phone book for Toronto City Planning: https://www1.toronto.ca/City%20Of%20Toronto/Corporate%20Directory/Files/PDF/Divisions/city_planning.pdf Call them and tell them I sent you because you are outraged and demand answers even though you don't live in Toronto. Or Canada.
Thursday, August 4, 2016 10:28 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Thursday, August 4, 2016 12:08 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Do you see that ginormous boot slowly but inevitably swinging towards us? That's the environment, and its kicking our ass except our timespan is too short to notice. That, and because 90% of Americans live in cities and have no idea what "the environment" is doing at any particular time, unless THEY get hit with a drought, flood, hurricane, or food shortage. Catastrophes are happening all around us. The environment is about to flatten us, we just haven't noticed (yet). Forces in the environment ... sun flares, earthquakes, viruses, climate change ... are so huge we can't even imagine them. They're beyond our sensible comprehension. So I would call the environment a lot of things.... inarticulate, complex, enormous, unpredictable .... but "weak" is not a word I'd choose. Far from it!
Saturday, August 6, 2016 8:47 AM
Quote:Repercussions from Mother Nature may be great, but I was commenting upon the docile victim that environment usually plays when Humans choose to take advantage.
Quote:Ummmm. Defining "environment" as Sun Flares? Climate Change from the Sun Flares? Earthquakes? Are all of these also man-made?
Saturday, August 6, 2016 11:07 AM
Saturday, August 6, 2016 12:00 PM
Quote:It's real, and by now, irreversible. We've still got people like Siggy who believe the propaganda put out by big energy that denies the reality. We've got people evil enough to make that propaganda up in the first place. We're doomed.
Saturday, August 6, 2016 4:10 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:It's real, and by now, irreversible. We've still got people like Siggy who believe the propaganda put out by big energy that denies the reality. We've got people evil enough to make that propaganda up in the first place. We're doomed. Holy Christ, REAVERFAN! What the hell are you talking about? WHAT "propaganda" do I believe about "big energy"? I'm flabbergasted and, to be honest, quite angry that you would make shit up about me. AGAIN. Have you even READ my posts about global warming and climate change? About pollution and species loss? About what I do for a living? About the current "Plasticene" era? That we need to start preparing for climate change NOW, by thinning our forests to prevent megafires, restoring habitats, creating interlinked wildlife corridors, and moving plants northward into areas that WILL be suitable for them in 50 years? How I have made our property a native, xeric wildlife haven, at no small expense? About corporations being able to "externalize" their costs to everyone else, including the future? About "the problem of the commons"? About the necessity of being able to create problem-solving structures as large as the problem itself? About how individual action, by itself, won't be enough to solve our environmental problems, that we need economic and political change? That despite the fact that I KNOW that recycling and saving water and turning off lights and buying organic food doesn't by itself make a difference... I still do? If anyone who has been reading my posts for any length of time knows- or should know- is that I'm deeply and passionately for protecting our environment, and have been doing so in my work, political, and personal life for 45 years. Or has your hatred of The Donald so consumed you that you're now arguing with the voices in your head which - in this case- are 180 deg away from reality? If that's the case, I have a question for you: Who are the Koch Bros supporting, Hillary or Trump?
Saturday, August 6, 2016 4:23 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I think my misunderstanding is that you mean, explicitly, that ARGUMENTS for the environment are weak. That in our socio-economic structure, arguing for "the environment" doesn't have much weight. In that case, you're right.
Saturday, August 6, 2016 7:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: If that's the case, I have a question for you: Who are the Koch Bros supporting, Hillary or Trump?
Saturday, August 6, 2016 7:25 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I think my misunderstanding is that you mean, explicitly, that ARGUMENTS for the environment are weak. That in our socio-economic structure, arguing for "the environment" doesn't have much weight. In that case, you're right. I am sorry, but it seems you and I have gotten off-track from each other. My intent for this thread was sympathetic to the environment, or Mother Nature. Those living things which live for thousands of years on Earth, and then are killed by human Environmentalists. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus_(tree) I do not believe that arguments on behalf of the environment are weak, except when based upon junk science. The goal is laudable, the practice has become hype. I was thinking for this thread of something like the Darwin Awards, except as applied to the environment instead of the miscreant human's own DNA portion of the gene pool.
Saturday, August 6, 2016 10:52 PM
WISHIMAY
Sunday, August 7, 2016 7:02 AM
Quote:I don't get all the getting sentimental about trees anyway.
Sunday, August 7, 2016 7:58 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Quote: Blamey said that was largely based on geochemical measurements of marine sediments — located deep underwater, far from the atmosphere itself — combined with computer modelling, leaving lots of room for error and incorrect assumptions.
Sunday, August 7, 2016 8:07 AM
Sunday, August 7, 2016 12:42 PM
Quote:Sorry. I mixed your name up.
Sunday, August 7, 2016 7:45 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:I don't get all the getting sentimental about trees anyway. They are the lungs of the planet. I'm not necessarily sentimental about my lungs, but I'd sure like to keep them around. Same goes for trees.
Sunday, August 7, 2016 8:09 PM
Quote:I don't get all the getting sentimental about trees anyway. _WISHI They are the lungs of the planet. I'm not necessarily sentimental about my lungs, but I'd sure like to keep them around. Same goes for trees.- SIGNY We got plenty of alveoli in this country, it's the rain forests that are gonna be toast. -WISHI
Monday, August 8, 2016 5:57 AM
Quote: Yanno RAPPY, you seem to think that any time anybody does any "modeling" or any "statistics" it falls into the realm of "junk science". JSF probably feels the same way.
Monday, August 8, 2016 8:37 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Wishimay: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:I don't get all the getting sentimental about trees anyway. They are the lungs of the planet. I'm not necessarily sentimental about my lungs, but I'd sure like to keep them around. Same goes for trees. We got plenty of alveoli in this country, it's the rain forests that are gonna be toast.
Monday, August 8, 2016 8:40 PM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: If that's the case, I have a question for you: Who are the Koch Bros supporting, Hillary or Trump? Sorry. I mixed your name up. As for the Kochs, their pawn in this election is Pence. They own him completely.
Monday, August 8, 2016 10:10 PM
Monday, August 8, 2016 10:46 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Are you in America? If so, are you saying the deforestation of America creates no problem?
Tuesday, August 9, 2016 7:17 AM
Quote:Are you in America? If so, are you saying the deforestation of America creates no problem?- JSF No, I'm saying we're not the worst.
Quote:I'm saying on the scale of things people wasting time over a few trees that will most likely be replanted and well cared for... is pointless. Housing complexes are great, it prevents urban sprawl and ultimately saves hundreds of trees. Acting like the sky is falling over a few trees when there are an estimated 3.04 TRILLION on the planet is a wee bit looney.- WISHI
Monday, August 29, 2016 7:35 PM
Monday, August 29, 2016 10:02 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I think I don't know WHAT you're saying, because you jumped from trees in Canada to trees in Indiana to the Brazilian rainforest to global trees back to Canada again, all the while making a different point at each mental stop. . Because 100-year old trees- well, they're not very common.
Tuesday, August 30, 2016 7:52 PM
Tuesday, August 30, 2016 11:47 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Other than cities, where are 100 year old tress not common?
Saturday, September 3, 2016 3:53 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: And then sometimes it can be cruel. https://ca.news.yahoo.com/323-reindeer-killed-bolt-lightning-130129095.html
Wednesday, September 7, 2016 4:14 PM
Tuesday, October 4, 2016 6:49 PM
Wednesday, November 25, 2020 2:11 PM
YOUR OPTIONS
NEW POSTS TODAY
OTHER TOPICS
FFF.NET SOCIAL