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Act of terror
Sunday, June 12, 2016 10:07 AM
WHOZIT
Sunday, June 12, 2016 10:13 AM
RIVERLOVE
Quote:Originally posted by whozit: There won't be any way the powers that be in Washington or the MSM can label this anything else.
Sunday, June 12, 2016 10:28 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Riverlove: Quote:Originally posted by whozit: There won't be any way the powers that be in Washington or the MSM can label this anything else. Wanna bet? Since this happened at a GAY nightclub they'll probably call it a homophobic attack. And somehow Trump will be blamed as well.
Sunday, June 12, 2016 11:09 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:Law enforcement sources told CBS News the gunman has been identified as Omar Mateen, a U.S. citizen from Port St. Lucie. Mateen was born to Afghan parents in 1986.
Sunday, June 12, 2016 11:21 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Sunday, June 12, 2016 11:30 AM
ELVISCHRIST
Sunday, June 12, 2016 12:01 PM
Sunday, June 12, 2016 12:10 PM
Quote:Originally posted by ElvisChrist: The shooter was an American citizen and a homophobe. Assault Weapon + Zealot = Mass Shooting Assault Weapon + Homophobe = Mass Shooting Assault Weapon + Mental Illness = Mass Shooting I think we're starting to see the common element to mass shootings.
Sunday, June 12, 2016 12:46 PM
REAVERFAN
Quote:Originally posted by whozit: Quote:Originally posted by ElvisChrist: The shooter was an American citizen and a homophobe. Assault Weapon + Zealot = Mass Shooting Assault Weapon + Homophobe = Mass Shooting Assault Weapon + Mental Illness = Mass Shooting I think we're starting to see the common element to mass shootings. Assault Weapon + ISIS Terrorist = Terror
Sunday, June 12, 2016 1:10 PM
JAYNEZTOWN
Sunday, June 12, 2016 3:00 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Sunday, June 12, 2016 3:27 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Islamic State claims responsibility for Orlando nightclub shooting (Reuters) http://www.reuters.com/article/us-florida-shooting-claim-idUSKCN0YY0VU Now we wait for evidence to see what's really going on. Because the Tsarnaev brothers, and the married couple Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik were initially claimed to be foreign terrorists. Instead, they were all SELF-RADICALIZED and didn't have active connections to terrorist organizations. It's possible the same is true here. In which case it's just about another US home-grown nutcase able to get weapons in the US to act out his nuttery.
Sunday, June 12, 2016 3:57 PM
Sunday, June 12, 2016 4:08 PM
Sunday, June 12, 2016 8:29 PM
Sunday, June 12, 2016 8:36 PM
WISHIMAY
Monday, June 13, 2016 9:28 AM
Monday, June 13, 2016 5:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Wishimay: The "This isn't about religion" line is ALWAYS going to be used to prevent retaliation from those still on the fence. Yeah, it's still about religion, no matter what they say...
Monday, June 13, 2016 5:58 PM
Monday, June 13, 2016 5:59 PM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Senate Republicans voted against a bill that would have prevented the Orlando shootings. Early June 12, a mass murderer opened fire on people at a gay nightclub in Orlando, FL killing 50 and injuring over 50 more. But what if the Orlando shootings never happened? Or better yet, what if you had the chance to prevent it? That may sound like wishful thinking from a time traveler’s fantasy, but our callous and craven Senate Republicans had a chance to stop the Orlando shootings back in December with not one, but three gun bills. That’s right. After the tragic mass shooting in Santa Barbara CA, Senate Republicans voted down three gun bills. According to CBS News, these three gun bills failed along sadly predictable party lines. By a vote of 52 to 47, the Senate rejected a proposal to strengthen treatment for mental illness and substance abuse disorders. Lawmakers voted 50 to 48 to reject a bill that would have expanded background checks for guns purchased online or at gun shows. Additionally, they voted 45 to 54 against a bill that would have stopped people on the terror watch list from purchasing guns. The third bill. in particular would have prevented the Orlando shooter from buying any guns because his avid following of pro-ISIS social media landed him on the terrorist watch list. NBC News reports the suspect for the Orlando shooting is Omar Mateen, a 29-year-old US citizen whose parents came here from Afghanistan. Although he has no criminal history, the FBI has considered him a “person of interest” for the past five years because he is suspected of being an ISIS sympathizer. As it turns out, just nine of these Senate Republicans alone have received a whopping total of over $22 million from the NRA, mostly through indirect campaign contributions. Mitch McConnell (R-KY): $1,262,189 Roy Blunt (R-MO): $1,433,952 Pat Roberts (R-KS): $1,584,153 Tom Cotton (R-AR): $1,968,714 David Perdue (R-GA): $1,997,512 Bill Cassidy (R-LA): $2,867,074 Joni Ernst (R-IA): $3,124,773 Cory Gardner (R-CO): $3,939,199 Thom Tillis (R-NC): $4,418,833 This is disgracefully cruel and outrageous, given that an overwhelming majority of anywhere between 86 percent and 92 percent of Americans want stricter gun laws, depending on the poll and the time frame. A poll from 2013 revealed that even 74 percent of NRA members at least want universal background checks. MSNBC adds that Dianne Feinstein angrily denounced House and Senate Republicans and their ties to the NRA lobby after last December’s votes. “If you need proof that Congress is a hostage to the gun lobby, look no further than today’s vote blocking a bill to prevent known or suspected terrorists from buying guns and explosives. Congress has been paralyzed by the gun lobby for years, while more and more Americans are killed in mass shootings. The carnage won’t stop until Congress finds the courage to stand up to the gun lobby and protect the nation.” And yes, many of these Senate Republicans who voted down the gun bills that could have prevented the Orlando shootings are the same ones who rejected expanded background checks in 2013, just months after the Newtown massacre. Watch: TYT’s Cenk Uygur shows Senate Republicans arguing for selling guns to people on the terrorist watch list (while still banning them from flying on planes). http://samuel-warde.com/2016/06/senate-republicans-orlando-shooting/
Monday, June 13, 2016 6:03 PM
Monday, June 13, 2016 6:28 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: And he got an assault weapon because our laws insist he could! What could possibly be wrong with that? Our laws are perfect!
Monday, June 13, 2016 6:39 PM
Tuesday, June 14, 2016 12:57 AM
Tuesday, June 14, 2016 1:06 AM
Quote:Originally posted by ElvisChrist: So the Klan represents all Christians, eh? How about Westboro Baptist? Are they typical of the Christian belief system? Dude was a fucking American, born and raised here. A bigot, an asshole, a homophobe - a textbook Trump supporter, in other words. What he did is exactly what many in the GOP have called for explicitly, including Ted Cruz and Mike Huckabee, who appear at gatherings with these exact kind of assholes.
Tuesday, June 14, 2016 5:19 AM
SHINYGOODGUY
Tuesday, June 14, 2016 10:00 AM
BYTEMITE
Quote:PS. The guy was gay himself, which I believe 110%. And it's STILL about Religion. If he hadn't been told he was sick and depraved all his life, probably wouldn't be worm food now...
Tuesday, June 14, 2016 10:17 AM
Quote:Originally posted by BYTEMITE: So that leaves me to wonder just how this is being politicized.
Tuesday, June 14, 2016 5:40 PM
Tuesday, June 14, 2016 6:17 PM
Quote:Originally posted by whozit: Should I change the title of this thread to "Gay Democrat kills 49"...Hmmmm?
Quote:“Look, we’re led by a man that either is not tough, not smart, or he’s got something else in mind,” Trump told Fox News early Monday. “There’s something going on. It’s inconceivable. There’s something going on. … He doesn’t get it or he gets it better than anybody understands — it’s one or the other and either one is unacceptable.”
Tuesday, June 14, 2016 6:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by whozit: Should I change the title of this thread to "Gay Democrat kills 49"...Hmmmm? Keep it partisan. Since Trump blames Obama for Orlando, you should show Republicans solidly united against Democrats. But don't include the number, because it might change. Initially it was 50. Then 49. Some more in the ICU could die.Quote:“Look, we’re led by a man that either is not tough, not smart, or he’s got something else in mind,” Trump told Fox News early Monday. “There’s something going on. It’s inconceivable. There’s something going on. … He doesn’t get it or he gets it better than anybody understands — it’s one or the other and either one is unacceptable.” https://theintercept.com/2016/06/13/donald-trump-calls-obama-complicit-in-orlando-shooting-escalating-years-of-anti-muslim-rhetoric/
Tuesday, June 14, 2016 7:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by whozit: I've been surprised how unified the Republicans have been, I haven't heard about any caving...yet. People are paying attention to the news so the libs are having trouble spinning this.
Tuesday, June 14, 2016 8:31 PM
Tuesday, June 14, 2016 9:26 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Wishimay: I just thought this was odd... Omar Mateen asked if there were any black people in the stall where she and her friends were hiding. 'I don't have a problem with black people,' Mateen reportedly said. 'This is about my country. You guys suffered enough'. This is about "my country"?
Wednesday, June 15, 2016 12:01 AM
Wednesday, June 15, 2016 12:06 AM
Quote:Originally posted by whozit: He did NOT have an assault weapon, an assault weapon can fire a full automatic. They are illegal to own without a special permit.
Wednesday, June 15, 2016 12:19 AM
Wednesday, June 15, 2016 1:29 AM
Quote:Originally posted by ElvisChrist: His wife says he wasn't religious at all. His father said it wasn't about his religion at all. This guy really sucks at being Muslim.
Wednesday, June 15, 2016 9:29 AM
Thursday, June 16, 2016 8:57 AM
Thursday, June 16, 2016 12:34 PM
Quote:Originally posted by G: Boo hoo - can't buy a gun.... what a bunch of pansies, disgraceful.
Thursday, June 16, 2016 1:08 PM
THGRRI
Quote:Originally posted by G: Paul Ryan defending decision on cnn recently. "We need to protect the Constitution. We're not going to remove a citizen's rights (to bare arms) without due process." Haven't they already removed their right to fly?
Thursday, June 16, 2016 1:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by whozit: He passed a back ground check, blame the feds.
Thursday, June 16, 2016 5:53 PM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Quote:Originally posted by whozit: He passed a back ground check, blame the feds. Blame the Republicans. The NRA controls their every action.
Thursday, June 16, 2016 7:50 PM
Quote:Originally posted by whozit: FYI, the "grays" at Area 51 control our actions, get it right...OK!
Thursday, June 16, 2016 9:14 PM
Friday, June 17, 2016 12:53 AM
Friday, June 17, 2016 11:26 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: The Senate delivered a devastating blow to President Obama’s agenda to regulate guns Wednesday by defeating a bipartisan proposal to expand background checks. It failed by a vote of 54 to 46, with five Democrats voting against it. Only four Republicans supported it. http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/294571-senate-rejects-tougher-background-checks-on-gun-purchases
Friday, June 17, 2016 11:31 AM
Quote:Originally posted by ElvisChrist: Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: The Senate delivered a devastating blow to President Obama’s agenda to regulate guns Wednesday by defeating a bipartisan proposal to expand background checks. It failed by a vote of 54 to 46, with five Democrats voting against it. Only four Republicans supported it. http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/294571-senate-rejects-tougher-background-checks-on-gun-purchases You should not that this is more than 3 years old.
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