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Hillary Clinton: just because she deserves her own thread
Wednesday, June 1, 2016 12:06 AM
THGRRI
Quote: The Marines were just such wussies, right? Led by their pansy officers.
Wednesday, June 1, 2016 5:21 PM
KPO
Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.
Quote:Mai got. Is this what passes for analysis? For thought? For reason and proportion? Is this the best reason to vote for her that Hillary's got going?
Wednesday, June 1, 2016 5:33 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Saturday, June 4, 2016 6:37 PM
Saturday, June 4, 2016 9:29 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: It's interesting - despite being for Hillary, second hasn't posted here at all, and sgg's only posted one post which didn't say anything about her. It's almost like they're afraid to discuss their candidate.
Saturday, June 4, 2016 10:43 PM
Monday, June 6, 2016 3:50 PM
Monday, June 6, 2016 5:51 PM
Monday, June 6, 2016 6:49 PM
Monday, June 6, 2016 6:50 PM
Monday, June 6, 2016 7:48 PM
Wednesday, June 8, 2016 2:16 PM
Quote:Third World War, the Key Is On “Start”
Quote: "The US and NATO flooded the Baltic and Black Sea with new bases and ships, and strengthened the front line on the ground – Baltic states – Poland – Ukraine – Romania – Bulgaria – Turkey. The front is outlined. The key to the Third World War is set to “start”." "Because of this, World War III could begin in the Balkans. The key is set to “start”."
Wednesday, June 8, 2016 2:27 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Who I vote for is none of your concern. There's a reason why it's a secret ballot.
Thursday, June 9, 2016 5:25 PM
Thursday, June 9, 2016 6:00 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Thursday, June 9, 2016 7:18 PM
Quote:Originally posted by kpo: Quote:Third World War, the Key Is On “Start” First of all, why is this in the Hillary Clinton thread? These are actions by NATO and the Obama presidency - Hillary doesn't even have a job in the Obama White House anymore.
Friday, June 10, 2016 1:17 AM
Friday, June 10, 2016 8:21 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:So, instead of discussing Hillary by proxy by slamming Donald and pointedly ignoring Bernie, let's talk about Hillary specifically. We've already talked about her negatives ... How about we discuss her positives. Anybody?
Friday, June 10, 2016 9:52 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:So, instead of discussing Hillary by proxy by slamming Donald and pointedly ignoring Bernie, let's talk about Hillary specifically. We've already talked about her negatives ... How about we discuss her positives. Anybody? .... *crickets*
Friday, June 10, 2016 12:20 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Friday, June 10, 2016 4:00 PM
Quote:I'm an 'anybody but Hillary' kind of voter
Friday, June 10, 2016 5:17 PM
Quote:Originally posted by kpo: Quote:I'm an 'anybody but Hillary' kind of voter What I'm hearing: 1. Hillary is evil incarnate 2. Hillary is a continuation of Obama And what I'm thinking: 1. Some of us quite like Obama (+50% approval rating) 2. Logic would have it that if Hillary is evil incarnate AND a continuation of Obama, then Obama must be evil incarnate as well. But I don't recall Siggy and kiki arguing so vehemently against him in '08 or '12, saying 'anybody but Obama'. Conclusion: Siggy and Kiki are more excited about Trump, a racist, sexist, pro-gun, pro-nuclear, climate change denier with a tax plan to slash taxes on the rich, than any presidential nominee of either of the main parties for decades. My question to you two would be, what's to like about this candidate, that you are willing to sell out so many of your purported principles to support him? It wouldn't be his cosying up to Putin would it?
Friday, June 10, 2016 5:50 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: Remember, they were about to defend their god. Remember the suicide bomber, it started there with planes and what I remember being called bonsai attacks that sent thousands of Japanese at a time to their deaths.
Friday, June 10, 2016 5:55 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: I managed to stumble across this linky: http://www.hilliary.info/ Looks like I'll need time to go through it all.
Friday, June 10, 2016 11:09 PM
Quote:. Logic would have it that if Hillary is evil incarnate AND a continuation of Obama, then Obama must be evil incarnate as well. But I don't recall Siggy and kiki arguing so vehemently against him in '08 or '12, saying 'anybody but Obama'.
Quote:When Obama said "It's not about the rich versus the poor" he totally lost my vote because that's exactly what it's about. It's all about money. It's always been about money.
Saturday, June 11, 2016 12:40 AM
Saturday, June 11, 2016 12:52 AM
Saturday, June 11, 2016 12:59 AM
Saturday, June 11, 2016 11:47 AM
Quote: It has been widely speculated, if not proven, that donors to the Clinton Foundation who over the years have transferred hundreds of millions of dollars to the "charitable organization", bought political favors with the Clintons in exchange for their generosity. That has now been confirmed thanks to a stunning ABC report which reveals how a major foundation donor - one who previously had practically no experience on intellgience matters - mysteriously ended up as a nuclear weapons advisor to Hillary during her tenure as Secretary of State. Worse, the person in question Rajiv K. Fernando, had been the head of a high frequency trading company, Chopper Trading ... bought a seat to not only have advance knowledge of all US foreign policy, but to directly shape it, something he could then parlay in the forms of massive policy frontrunning profits thanks to his trading company. Just as shocking was the aggressive retaliation [MORE LIKE AGGRESSIVE STALLING - SIGNY] with which the State Department tried to cover up the cronyism that literally "bought" Fernando's seat as one of Hillary's closest political advisors and how - as a result of ongoing media pressure - Fernando just as mysteriously resigned only days after his appointment was announced when the State Department was unable to come up with a legitimate reason for him to stay on.
Quote:“We had no idea who he was,” one board member told ABC News.... when ABC News first contacted the State Department in August 2011 seeking a copy of his resume, the emails show that confusion ensued among the career government officials who work with the advisory panel. The appointment qualified Fernando for one of the highest levels of top secret access, the emails show. ... The newly released emails reveal that after ABC News started asking questions in August 2011, a State Department official who worked with the advisory board couldn’t immediately come up with a justification for Fernando serving on the panel. ... By this point, Fernando himself had been looped into the discussion. He and Hartman exchanged emails, but the entire text of Fernando’s letter was redacted by the State Department prior to its release ... ... for a mere $1-$5 million sunk cost, one can buy influence, and inside information, which - in this specific case - can then be traded and generate hundreds of millions in profits, an IRR that is too big for Excel to calculate ...
Sunday, June 12, 2016 10:19 AM
Quote: Conclusion: Siggy and Kiki are more excited about Trump, a racist, sexist, pro-gun, pro-nuclear, climate change denier with a tax plan to slash taxes on the rich, than any presidential nominee of either of the main parties for decades.
Quote:My question to you two would be, what's to like about this candidate, that you are willing to sell out so many of your purported principles to support him? It wouldn't be his cosying up to Putin would it?
Quote:Let's not forget who are the biggest anti-Capitalists here.
Quote:And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale. - Thomas Jefferson Bank-paper must be suppressed, and the circulating medium must be restored to the nation to whom it belongs."- Thomas Jefferson Paper money has had the effect in your state that it will ever have, to ruin commerce, oppress the honest, and open the door to every species of fraud and injustice.- George Washington Banks have done more injury to the religion, morality, tranquility, prosperity, and even wealth of the nation than they can have done or ever will do good.- John Adams All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise not from defects in the Constitution or Confederation, not from a want of honor or virtue so much as from downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit and circulation.” – John Adams
Quote:The money powers prey upon the nation in times of peace and conspire against it in times of adversity. The banking powers are more despotic than a monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy. They denounce as public enemies all who question their methods or throw light upon their crimes. I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me and the bankers in the rear. Of the two, the one at my rear is my greatest foe.
Quote: ...a vast accession of strength from their younger recruits, who, having nothing in them of the feelings or principles of ’76, now look to a single and splendid government of an aristocracy, founded on banking institutions, and monied incorporations under the guise and cloak of their favored branches of manufactures, commerce and navigation, riding and ruling over the plundered ploughman and beggared yeomanry - Thomas Jefferson I hope that we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.”- Thomas Jefferson The power of all corporations ought to be limited, […] the growing wealth acquired by them never fails to be a source of abuses.”- James Madison .... “the selfish spirit of commerce (that) knows no country, and feels no passion or principle but that of gain.= Thomas Jefferson Government is instituted for the common good; for the protection, safety, prosperity, and happiness of the people; and not for profit, honor, or private interest of any one man, family, or class of men; therefore, the people alone have an incontestable, unalienable, and indefeasible right to institute government; and to reform, alter, or totally change the same, when their protection, safety, prosperity, and happiness require it.= John Adams ...Incorporated companies with proper limitations and guards may, in particular cases, be useful; but they are at best a necessary evil only."-James Madison
Quote: “He who is the author of a war, lets loose the whole contagion of hell, and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death.”- — Thomas Paine War is an instrument entirely inefficient toward redressing wrong; and multiplies, instead of indemnifying losses.” -Thomas Jefferson
Quote:I also wonder what Siggy's Mexican servants feel about her wanting to send millions of Mexicans back to Mexico. Her justification of, "If they love Mexico so much and wave Mexican flags they should go back to Mexico." Obviously, she's never been to a Saint Patrick's Day parade. Plus - does anyone on this board hate the US more vocally than Snigglet? Even close? Shouldn't she "go back" somewhere then by her own logic?
Sunday, June 12, 2016 3:13 PM
Sunday, June 12, 2016 4:27 PM
Sunday, June 12, 2016 9:30 PM
Quote:Huh? Like what exactly?
Quote:I also wonder what Siggy's Mexican servants...
Quote:How many Mexicans have worked for you?
Quote:In another thread you equated North Vietnam flags during the Vietnam war to waving Mexican flags now
Quote:Who said anything about the US being a capitalist nation?? I said Trump was a Capitalist and you support him - is that wrong?
Monday, June 13, 2016 10:15 AM
Quote:But, in detail, the answer is: NONE. Yes, I have people work for me, but they have to have (1) A valid Social Security number (Yes, I ask for the card, and then check it online) (2) A valid driver's license. (3) A working car, and car insurance (4) A good knowledge of English. SIGNY So wrong about the country, right about the servants, check.- The main point being - if these employees from another country (I presume since you mention they need to be able to speak decent English) that work for you start waving their home country's flag, would you want to force them out of the US? How do THEY feel about Trump? Your quick "deport them!" reaction to citizens from foreign countries who may be US citizens - like those that work for you - seems extreme and overly emotional. THIRDSTOOGE
Quote:BTW - no one here thinks Hillary is a great choice - get over it. The more you try and suggest otherwise the more you appear completely disingenuous (sadly, that's almost all the time).
Monday, June 13, 2016 11:11 AM
Monday, June 13, 2016 11:18 AM
Monday, June 13, 2016 11:37 AM
Monday, June 13, 2016 11:39 AM
Monday, June 13, 2016 11:48 AM
Monday, June 13, 2016 12:52 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: And that is what I like about Trump. HE WEIGHS THE ODDS. So unlike Hillary, who is so mesmerized by her neocon vision of the world that she will bounce in her seat a little, clap her hands, and laugh as she initiates WWIII (Yanno, kind of like she did when she unleashed Armageddon on Libya) Trump will take a much more realistic view of who might actually win, and how much damage he - and the USA- would sustain. In addition to being somewhat manic (IMHO) Trump is a bully. But like all playground bullies, Trump has a pretty fine ear for anyone who might come along who is stronger than he is. At that point, he will negotiate. Trump is 50/50. Hillary, OTOH, is a proven loser. She reliably initiates international confrontations that she can't possibly bring to successful conclusion. -------------- You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
Monday, June 13, 2016 12:55 PM
Quote:Carpet bombing SIG, kill everyone in an entire city. What a fuck up you are.
Monday, June 13, 2016 1:04 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Carpet bombing SIG, kill everyone in an entire city. What a fuck up you are. What do you think "shock and awe" was? But you were down with that!
Monday, June 13, 2016 1:09 PM
Quote:Carpet bombing SIG, kill everyone in an entire city. What a fuck up you are.- THIRDSATOOGE What do you think "shock and awe" was? But you were down with that! -SIGNY Shock and awe was laser targeted strikes not carpet bombing, but you know that.
Quote:Secondly, you think you are debating me about who Trump is. You are not. I am posting his words to show what you post about him is utter nonsense. Like being 50/50. Yano, level headed.
Monday, June 13, 2016 1:17 PM
Quote: SIG Bullshit. 90% of the bombs dropped in Iraq were "dumb iron". But you know that.
Monday, June 13, 2016 1:21 PM
Monday, June 13, 2016 1:41 PM
Monday, June 13, 2016 1:52 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I know who Trump is. He's a blowhard, a bully, and probably hypomanic. But he - unlike Hillary- hasn't had anyone killed. Hillary is a giddy power-mad bitch who laughs and claps her hands when she manages to take a nation into destruction. -------------- I'll tell you what I DON'T like about Trump: I think that he has never confronted either the international banking cartel, nor the CIA-State Dept multi-headed hydra, nor the military-industrial complex. The last person to confront them was JFK (BTW, ALL immigration was illegal under JFK) and look what happened to him.
Tuesday, June 14, 2016 11:11 AM
Quote:...As MEE notes, the Petra News Agency published on Sunday what it described as exclusive comments from Saudi Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman which included a claim that Riyadh has provided 20 percent of the total funding to the prospective Democratic candidate's campaign. The report was later deleted and the news agency has not responded to requests for comment from Middle East Eye. However, the deletion took place too late, as the Washington-based Institute for Gulf Affairs managed to capture the report and has re-published the original Arabic Petra report, which quoted Prince Mohammed as having said Saudi Arabia had provided with “full enthusiasm” an undisclosed amount of money to Clinton.
Tuesday, June 14, 2016 11:17 AM
Quote:You say I'm a lying sack of shit because I say, "no one here thinks Hillary is a great choice."
Quote:The more you try and suggest otherwise
Tuesday, June 14, 2016 11:58 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Saudi Arabia Has Funded 20% Of Hillary's Presidential Campaign, Saudi Crown Prince Claims Quote:...As MEE notes, the Petra News Agency published on Sunday what it described as exclusive comments from Saudi Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman which included a claim that Riyadh has provided 20 percent of the total funding to the prospective Democratic candidate's campaign. The report was later deleted and the news agency has not responded to requests for comment from Middle East Eye. However, the deletion took place too late, as the Washington-based Institute for Gulf Affairs managed to capture the report and has re-published the original Arabic Petra report, which quoted Prince Mohammed as having said Saudi Arabia had provided with “full enthusiasm” an undisclosed amount of money to Clinton. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-13/saudi-arabia-has-funded-20-hillarys-presidential-campaign-saudi-crown-prince-claims
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