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Free trade and the ability to manufacture [ABROAD] where it is more cost-effective is key to competitiveness, she said, especially as U.S. companies compete against Chinese rivals and others.

“We’ve got to compete against Huawei, against Lenovo, against our competitors here in the United States,” she said. “And if we are prohibited from manufacturing in the right locations, that means that the jobs in the U.S. will be in jeopardy because Hewlett-Packard Enterprise won’t thrive.”

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Jayne (or Adam Baldwin) tweeted today that ‘Real Women’ Like Trump
https://twitter.com/AdamBaldwin

Rush Limbaugh declared today that “real women” like Donald Trump, and in case you’re wondering, yes, he did define exactly what constitutes a “real woman”:

“Not left-wing activist Feminazi-type women, you know the type of women I’m talking about. The girl next door, the businesswoman, the woman that’s confident, the woman that likes herself––those are the kind of women we’re talking about here. Wholesome American woman.”

Limbaugh made it clear he’s “not talking about women that are angry, that feel like they’re victims of something, that think men are the biggest obstacles they face on earth.”

He went on to declare that these “real women” like Trump because “he’s not PC-whipped” and “he stands up for himself.”

Because, Limbaugh concluded, “no real woman respects any man who can be so easily PC-whipped… and whatever else that you might say about Trump, that is something that he isn’t.”

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Both Drumpf and Limpdick are slime from the same cloth.......no, strike that, bottom of my shoe. No, the skeezy a-hole of Cheney......yeah, that's the ticket!

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While I have no doubt about the sheer meanness of republicans . . .

It's easy to extend the generous hand when you feel your own life is secure. But when it starts to become a zero-sum system, their gain is your loss; and suddenly, people become far less charitable. . . .

Well fuck [Hillary] and the disease-riddled donkey she's whipping to the finish line so she can pocket her gold.

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I want to make this simple. Here's what Donald Trump did recently:

He pledged $1 million to help veterans.

He tried to weasel out of it for months by saying he already paid and hoped no one would notice he had not.

When he finally got caught, he insulted the reporter who caught him.

Even among sleazebags, this is not normal behavior. This is pathological sleaziness. It's literally beyond belief. Do not let Trump distract you with his latest barrage of insults. Do not turn your attention to Hillary. Do not let this be normalized away as "just another Trump thing."

Maybe we need to put this in simpler terms.

$1 million is one ten-thousandth of Trump's claimed wealth. The average American household has a net worth of about $50,000. One ten-thousandth of that is $5. In terms of its effect on his personal finances, what Trump did was the equivalent of promising five bucks to a homeless vet and then trying to weasel out of it. What kind of person would do that?

This deserves far more attention than it's gotten. If character is supposed to be important in our presidents, this is evidence of the most contemptible kind of character imaginable. He tried to cheat a bunch of veterans! Can we please not shrug our shoulders and let this fade away into talk of Hillary?

www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/05/25/how-social-media-hel
ped-crack-the-case-of-donald-trumps-1-million-donation-to-veterans/

www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/caught-fibbing-trump-scrambles-addres
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www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-vets-donations_us_57448908e4
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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-veterans-group-donations-timel
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Need I mention that multi-billionaires can go insane? Houston's very own billionaire Howard Hughes for example. Trump is already going there. Eight years from now, President Trump could be hoarding bottles of his own urine like Hughes did. Or in Trump's case, his own hair.
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Rush Limbaugh declared today that “real women” like Donald Trump, and in case you’re wondering, yes, he did define exactly what constitutes a “real woman”:

“Not left-wing activist Feminazi-type women, you know the type of women I’m talking about. The girl next door, the businesswoman, the woman that’s confident, the woman that likes herself––those are the kind of women we’re talking about here. Wholesome American woman.”

Limbaugh made it clear he’s “not talking about women that are angry, that feel like they’re victims of something, that think men are the biggest obstacles they face on earth.”

He went on to declare that these “real women” like Trump because “he’s not PC-whipped” and “he stands up for himself.”

Because, Limbaugh concluded, “no real woman respects any man who can be so easily PC-whipped… and whatever else that you might say about Trump, that is something that he isn’t.”

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Sure, I conjured that the facts would really burn you as well, but I didn't know you were reading along.
You make Pavlov's Dog look like a judicious and critical thinker.

Are there any of these facts that you care to dispute? Or are you only upset that they don't fit into your surrealism?
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Agreed. He's a pathological sleaze - a million times worse than anyone on this planet - and when people press him for answers he caves and tries to "shrug" it away. The housing bubble thing - "Oh, I'm a business man, I'm supposed to make money."

What he leaves out is "I'm a sleaze bag, I'm supposed to step on people's necks when they are down to take advantage of them - because I'm rich. Poor people
suck and are losers." He says he loves the un-educated. There is a reason; he
takes advantage of them as well.

FUCK Donald and anyone who believes this scumbag has anyone else in mind but Donald Drumpf. How about that? Hilary is rich, but at least she's not a scumbag, degenerate sleaze-bag fuck who uses women like so much toilet paper.

Hilary for POTUS!!!!!!!!!!! Fuck anyone else!

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It turns out that liberals are just as fact-avoidant as Tea Partiers.

This thread has devolved into nothing more than name-calling, complete with pictures. I recall getting splattered with the same style of "discussion" from the other side. You all should be ashamed of yourselves.

So, about Trump.

Unlike Hillary and Sanders, who both have solid political records (as Senators- and in Hillary's case her record as Scy State and First Lady) Trump's political record is ... ahhh ... elusive. So all we have to speculate on is his hair, his family, his business record, his hair, his hands .... his hair ... really, nothing substantive that will tell us what he might do as President.

And his campaign statements don't clarify anything. They're deliberately outrageous, and even I don't believe that he believes 85% of what he's saying.

But that's OK, because if there's one thing that Obama taught me is that you can discount about 99% of what a candidate says or promises. (I voted for Obama on the basis that if he only accomplished 15% of what he promised, it would be a step in the right direction, and as it turned out I was 99% wrong.)

Anyway, back to Trump.

What I got out of Trump's business history is that Tump is a salesman. Every self-made billionaire - from Rockefeller to Gates - has ONE THING that they pursue, and it's not money. Money is only a marker. For Gates and Rockefeller and Vanderbilt they wanted 100% market domination. It was their goal to create the widest horizontal and tallest possible vertical monopolies in their (new) market niches. For Trump, the one driving factor seems to be - really- the art of the deal. It's a challenge for him to sell ... an investment, a TV show, a book ...

A candidacy.

Unlike most of Trumps critics, I've listened closely to a few of his stump speeches, and I realize that 90% of what Trump is saying is sales pitch. I don't know if his supporters believe what Trump is saying, but I'm sure Trump doesn't. (Yanno, kind of like Hillary, who's just as much of a snake-oil salesman but less convincing.) The reason why I know that Trump is more than his campaign speeches and his birther movement is that when he gets into private conversations with some of his detractors they come out as either supporters or at least grudging fellow-travelers.

So Trump is a salesman. Is he running for the highest office in the land just because it's there, like Mt. Everest? Is he looking for just another notch in his belt?

Again, I have just speculation. But I sense that there is something driving Trump besides the challenge of running for office, and that he really does have a goal. First of all, unlike Hillary, who I think is so wedded to international banks she would unhesitatingly sell the US economy downriver, Trump is a national capitalist. He makes all of his money here, not abroad. His power, his ego, and his fortune are attached to the UNITED STATES leisure economy, not to Goldman Sachs or the military-industrial complex. And from that vantage point, Trump has seen American economic prospects (and therefore his) deteriorate due to outsourcing and needless bellicosity. From his viewpoint, he would make "better deals" for American than the previous six leaders and one prospective one. And he probably would. Trump's self-interest in something I can believe in.

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“We’ve got to compete against Huawei, against Lenovo, against our competitors here in the United States,” she said. “And if we are prohibited from manufacturing in the right locations, that means that the jobs in the U.S. will be in jeopardy because Hewlett-Packard Enterprise won’t thrive.”

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Agreed. He's a pathological sleaze - a million times worse than anyone on this planet - and when people press him for answers he caves and tries to "shrug" it away. The housing bubble thing - "Oh, I'm a business man, I'm supposed to make money."

What he leaves out is "I'm a sleaze bag, I'm supposed to step on people's necks when they are down to take advantage of them - because I'm rich. Poor people
suck and are losers." He says he loves the un-educated. There is a reason; he
takes advantage of them as well.

FUCK Donald and anyone who believes this scumbag has anyone else in mind but Donald Drumpf. How about that? Hilary is rich, but at least she's not a scumbag, degenerate sleaze-bag fuck who uses women like so much toilet paper.

Hilary for POTUS!!!!!!!!!!! Fuck anyone else!

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So SECOND, in reply you offer a unflattering picture and a made-up video? You've descended to THUGR-levels, who offers "raspberry wars" in lieu of a relevant reply.

You're normally lucid and on-target. So, are you one of those Hillary-voters who can't explain their vote?

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Assessing Obama’s war on inequality
www.houstonchronicle.com/opinion/outlook/article/Krugman-Assessing-Oba
ma-s-war-on-inequality-7938947.php

Paul Krugman says president’s new rules on OT pay will do more than most people realize to fight income imbalance.

There were two big economic policy stories this week that you may have missed if you were distracted by Trumpian bombast and the yelling of the Sanders dead-enders. Each tells you a lot about both what President Barack Obama has accomplished and the stakes in this year’s election.

One of those stories, I’m sorry to say, did involve Donald Trump: The presumptive Republican nominee — who has already declared that he will, in fact, slash taxes on the rich, whatever he may have said in the recent past — once again declared his intention to do away with Dodd-Frank, the financial reform passed during Democrats’ brief window of congressional control. Just for the record, while Trump is sometimes described as a “populist,” almost every substantive policy he has announced would make the rich richer at workers’ expense.

The other story was about a policy change achieved through executive action: The Obama administration issued new guidelines on overtime pay, which will benefit an estimated 12.5 million workers.

What both stories tell us is that the Obama administration has done much more than most people realize to fight extreme economic inequality. That fight will continue if Hillary Clinton wins the election; it will go into sharp reverse if Trump wins.

Step back for a minute and ask, what can policy do to limit inequality? The answer is, it can operate on two fronts. It can engage in redistribution, taxing high incomes and aiding families with lower incomes . It can also engage in what is sometimes called “predistribution,” strengthening the bargaining power of lower-paid workers and limiting the opportunities for a handful of people to make giant sums. In practice, governments that succeed in limiting inequality generally do both.

We can see this in our own history. The middle-class society that baby boomers like me grew up in didn’t happen by accident; it was created by the New Deal, which engineered what economists call the “Great Compression,” a sharp reduction in income gaps. On one side, pro-labor policies led to a striking expansion of unions, which, along with the establishment of a fairly high minimum wage, helped raise wages, especially at the bottom. On the other side, taxes on the wealthy went up sharply, while major programs like Social Security aided working families.

We can also see this in cross-country comparisons. Among advanced countries, the U.S. has the highest level of inequality, Denmark the lowest. How does Denmark do it? Partly with higher taxes and bigger social programs, but it starts with lower inequality in market incomes, thanks in large part to high minimum wages and a labor movement representing two-thirds of workers.

Now, America isn’t about to become Denmark, and Obama, facing relentless opposition in Congress, has never been in a position to repeat the New Deal. But more has happened than you might think. Most obviously, Obamacare provides aid and subsidies mainly to lower-income working Americans, and it pays for that aid partly with higher taxes at the top. That makes it an important redistributionist policy — the biggest such policy since the 1960s.

And between those extra Obamacare taxes and the expiration of the high-end Bush tax cuts made possible by Obama’s re-election, the average federal tax rate on the top 1 percent has risen quite a lot. In fact, it’s roughly back to what it was in 1979, pre-Ronald Reagan, something nobody seems to know.

What about predistribution? Well, why is Trump, like everyone in the GOP, so eager to repeal financial reform? Because despite what you may have heard about its ineffectuality, Dodd-Frank actually has put a substantial crimp in the ability of Wall Street to make money hand over fist. It doesn’t go far enough, but it’s significant enough to have bankers howling.

And while the move on overtime comes late in the game, it’s a pretty big deal and could be the beginning of much broader action.

Nothing Obama has done will put more than a modest dent in American inequality. But his actions aren’t trivial, either. And even these medium-size steps put the lie to the pessimism and fatalism one hears all too often on this subject. No, America isn’t an oligarchy. Money talks on both sides of the aisle, but the influence of big donors hasn’t prevented the current president from doing a substantial amount to narrow income gaps — and he would have done much more if he’d faced less opposition in Congress.

And in this as in so much else, it matters hugely whom the nation chooses as his successor.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Agreed. He's a pathological sleaze - a million times worse than anyone on this planet - and when people press him for answers he caves and tries to "shrug" it away. The housing bubble thing - "Oh, I'm a business man, I'm supposed to make money."

What he leaves out is "I'm a sleaze bag, I'm supposed to step on people's necks when they are down to take advantage of them - because I'm rich. Poor people
suck and are losers." He says he loves the un-educated. There is a reason; he
takes advantage of them as well.

FUCK Donald and anyone who believes this scumbag has anyone else in mind but Donald Drumpf. How about that? Hilary is rich, but at least she's not a scumbag, degenerate sleaze-bag fuck who uses women like so much toilet paper.

Hilary for POTUS!!!!!!!!!!! Fuck anyone else!

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So let us now examine the Russian reaction to Empire’s stance.

First, the Russians want to make darn sure that the Americans do not give in into the illusion that a full-scale war in Europe would be like WWII which saw the US homeland only suffer a few, tiny, almost symbolic, attacks by the enemy. Since a full scale war in Europe would threaten the very existence of the Russian state and nation, the Russians are now taking measures to make darn sure that, should that happen, the US would pay an immense price for such an attack.

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The Russian effort is a vast and a complex one, and it covers almost every aspect of Russian force planning, but there are four examples which, I think, best illustrate the Russian determination not to allow a 22 June 1941 to happen again: ....


The deployment of the Sarmat ICBM
.... Russia thus needed some kind of weapon which would truly strike fear into the Pentagon and White House in the way the famous RS-36 Voevoda (aka SS-18 “Satan” in US classification) did during the Cold War. The SS-18, the most powerful ICBM ever developed, was scary enough. The RS-28 “Sarmat” (SS-X-30 by NATO classification) brings the terror to a totally new level.

The Sarmat is nothing short of amazing. It will be capable of carrying 10-15 MIRVed warheads which will be delivered in a so-called “depressed” (suborbital) trajectory and which will remain maneuverable at hypersonic speeds. The missile will not have to use the typical trajectory over the North Pole but will be capable of reaching any target anywhere on the planet from any trajectory. All these elements combined will make the Sarmat itself and its warheads completely impossible to intercept.

The Sarmat will also be capable of delivering conventional Iu-71 hypersonic warheads capable of a “kinetic strike” which could be used to strike a fortified enemy target in a non-nuclear conflict. This will be made possible by the amazing accuracy of the Sarmat’s warheads which, courtesy of a recent Russian leak, we now know have a CEP

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The Sarmat’s silos will be protected by a unique “active protection measures” which will include 100 guns capable of firing a “metallic cloud” of forty thousand 30mm “bullets” to an altitude of up to 6km. The Russians are also planning to protect the Sarmat with their new S-500 air defense systems. Finally, the Sarmat’s preparation to start time will be under 60 seconds thanks a highly automated launch system.

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The deployment of the Status-6 strategic torpedo
Do you remember the carefully staged “leak” in November of last year when the Russians ‘inadvertently’ showed a super dooper secret strategic torpedo on prime time news? Here is this (in)famous slide:

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The Status-6 system can be used to target aircraft carrier battle groups, US navy bases (especially SSBN bases) and, in its most frighting configuration, it can be used to deliver high-radioactivity cobalt bombs capable of laying waste to huge expanses of land.

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Seeing as how you're busy posting everywhere else sgg, you wouldn't happen to be running away from discussing this,

Meanwhile, you've avoided mentioning her illustrious history called Libya/Ukraine/Syria or her foreign policy platform posted on the Internet or her speeches.

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I have to say that these OED folks are remarkably up to date. Very impressive.
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/05/word-day-apophasis


Donald Trump is in the Oxford English Dictionary because he is an excellent example for a definition of Apophasis
Late Latin < Greek
denial < apophania to speak off, deny < from apo- + phanai to say.

Rhetoric the artful mention of something by denying that it will be mentioned.

1952 R. NIXON Checkers Speech 21:24 http://bit.ly/1XFW7hV And as far as Mr. Sparkman is concerned...He's had his wife on the payroll. I don't condemn him for that, but I think that he should come before the American people and indicate what outside sources of income he has had.

2016 D. TRUMP Wash. Post http://wapo.st/22mE5lC On Vince Foster's suicide: I will say there are people who continue to bring it up because they think it was absolutely a murder. I don’t do that because I don’t think it’s fair.

2016 D. TRUMP NY Times http://nyti.ms/24ejJKx On Bill Weld: I don’t talk about his alcoholism.

2016 D. TRUMP PolitiFact: Pants On Fire http://bit.ly/1sj7UXR On a National Enquirer report that Ted Cruz’s father may have been involved in JFK's assassination: I was on a show...And I just asked, what was that all about?

2016 D. TRUMP Meet the Press http://nbcnews.to/1TG1nBI On retweeting a hoax video claiming that a guy who rushed the stage at one of his rallies was an ISIS sympathizer: Now, I don’t know. What do I know about it? All I know is what's on the internet.

2016 D. TRUMP Wash. Times http://bit.ly/1RcrcFM On George Bush lying about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq: Well, a lot of people agree with what I said. And I'm not talking about lying, I'm not talking about not lying. Nobody really knows why we went into Iraq.

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Are your referring to the fake suicide, or the coverup and whitewash?

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It's always been a little bit unclear to what extent anyone believes Hillary shot Vince Foster in the head as opposed to cynically peddling murder theories for partisan advantage. Trump is seeking partisan advantage because he is in a fight with Hillary. See how Trump might be a liar?

How Foster died is very clear. In the days before his death, Foster was having trouble eating or sleeping. He told his sister that he was suffering from depression but was afraid that seeing a psychiatrist would cost him his security clearance. His sister provided him with the names of two DC-area psychiatrists anyway, and urged him to see one "off the record" to alleviate his clearance concerns. He called one, but got an answering machine. He spoke to his doctor on the phone in Little Rock and got a prescription for antidepressants.

Then his body was found in a park with a bullet through his head and a gun in his hand.

The US Park Police had jurisdiction over the matter and concluded, in conjunction with the FBI, that it was a suicide. Later investigations by independent counsels Robert Fisk and Kenneth Starr concluded the same thing. When a depressed man is found dead in a park with no sign of a struggle and gun residue on his hand, the natural conclusion is suicide, and every subsequent piece of evidence confirmed that finding. Depression plus easy access to firearms lead to an avoidable death, as it all too often does in the United States.

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For someone who's pretending to be for Hillary you sure seem awfully reluctant to discuss the facts about her.

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Donald Trump just outlined a plan to profit personally off a Trump administration

It's traditional for American presidents to put their financial assets in a blind trust when they become president, meaning that they still own what they own, but for the duration of their time in office they have no control over the assets. This isn't a legal requirement, but it's a customary way for chief executives to set people's minds at rest over the obvious conflicts of interest inherent in actively managing a stock portfolio while also serving as leader of the free world.

Donald Trump has indicated in the past that he wouldn't follow this practice, and the particular nature of his assets — many of which literally have his name on them — would make blindness difficult to achieve. Be that as it may, in a Thursday midday tweet he for the first time said clearly that if he wins the election he intends to seek to personally profit off his office.
www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-trump-financial-conflicts-20160314-stor
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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

After the litigation is disposed of and the case won, I have instructed my execs to open Trump U(?), so much interest in it! I will be pres.

10:02 AM - 2 Jun 2016 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/738415541203832832

Trump University is pretty clearly a scam, for which Trump is seeking to avoid legal accountability through a racist smear campaign against a federal judge and campaign contributions to state attorneys general. Serving as president would presumably give Trump new tools with which to help get the "university" (which, to be clear, is not in any sense a university) out of legal trouble and create invaluable opportunities to publicize it.

You might wonder why a person who says he's worth $10 billion is so eager to find new ways to make money, and the answer may well have something to do with the considerable evidence that he's massively overstating his net worth.
www.vox.com/2016/5/14/11671650/how-rich-is-trump

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Shocking scenes are occuring on the streets of San Jose as Trump supporters are chased, punched, kicked, and, as ABC News' Tom Llamas reports "terrorized" as the local police "appears to have lost control." Mobs of protestors, many carrying mexican flags

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Protestors made up mostly of young ppl. Some throwing up gang signs. There were ppl who came to demonstrate & some who just wanted to brawl

— Tom Llamas (@TomLlamasABC) June 3, 2016

Full video of the chaotic situation...



This @Timcast video from the #Trump protest in San Jose is really disturbing. https://t.co/wTp8idVvJH

— Blogs of War (@BlogsofWar) June 3, 2016



Social media is awash with videos of the events...

Our video of Trump supporter who says he was beaten up coming out of @realDonaldTrump rally. pic.twitter.com/PQSxjXfonl

— Tom Llamas (@TomLlamasABC) June 3, 2016



JUST IN: Trump supporters being attacked, assaulted by protestors outside Trump rally in San Jose - @Jacobnbc https://t.co/l7Lrhd7b9a

— NBC Nightly News (@NBCNightlyNews) June 3, 2016

BREAKING NEWS: Trump supporters pelted with eggs, bloodied by agitators outside San Jose rally (@SaraMurray) pic.twitter.com/AYhSaQJPoL

— Breaking News Feed (@pzf) June 3, 2016

And just general rioting...

I called 911 but no one answered. Donald trump protest in San Jose, CA pic.twitter.com/LwaWyeYZfq

— Marcus DiPaola (@marcusdipaola) June 3, 2016

Raw video: Fighting continues in streets following @realDonaldTrump rally in San Jose. pic.twitter.com/PR9zaAzZKy

— M. Scott Mahaskey (@smahaskey) June 3, 2016

Raw video: Punches thrown in clashes following @realDonaldTrump rally in San Jose. pic.twitter.com/U4d7vSbkf2

— M. Scott Mahaskey (@smahaskey) June 3, 2016

Anti-Trump rioters even burned American flags...

This happened tonight in San Jose (@dcbigjohn) pic.twitter.com/PaDrFdx5cY

— Breaking News Feed (@pzf) June 3, 2016

No this is not the streets of Tehran... this is San Jose - the best city in America to get a job!!

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Trump Supporters "Terrorized" In Massive San Jose Street Brawl As Police "Lose Control"

Ship them the fuck to Mexico if that's where their loyalties are

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Originally posted by second:
Texas Republicans are little Trumps, except not as energetic, crooked and loud.

When, and if, Trump loses the election, the little Trumps will disown Trump as never being truly one of their own. But long before Trump even won the nomination, Republican big shots in Texas were doing special favors for Trump. This morning’s newspaper had an article about the Texas Governor doing a HUGH favor for Trump when the Gov was only Attorney General of Texas:

Abbott's AG office nixed plan to sue Trump University
Abbott's office nixed plan to seek $5.4 million fine

By Brian M. Rosenthal and Gabrielle Banks
Updated: June 3, 2016 12:24am

AUSTIN - For seven months, a team of investigators in the Texas Attorney General's Office extensively scrutinized a for-profit real estate investment training program known as Trump University.

The investigators went undercover to attend seminars, interviewed dozens of students and requested hundreds of documents. Ultimately, records show, they determined in May 2010 that the program had illegally engaged in false advertising, and they asked their bosses to sue unless the business agreed to pay the state $5.4 million.

And then, everything stopped. Trump University decided to leave Texas, and the bosses decided not to file the lawsuit - a choice that did not sit well with at least one of the investigators.

"The case was closed and all the Texas consumers were left high and dry," said John Owens, then the deputy chief of the office's consumer protection division, who retired in 2011 after 20 years at the office.

"We were a little shocked," Owens added.

The investigation - and the decision by then-Attorney General Greg Abbott's office not to sue - has drawn a surge of attention this week thanks to a California judge's order unsealing documents in a lawsuit against the controversial training program named after a businessman who is now the Republican Party's presumptive presidential nominee.
www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Investigat
ors-planned-to-ask-Trump-University-for-7960668.php

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A list of 58 Conspiracy Theories (and Counting!) endorsed by Trump
www.alternet.org/right-wing/58-donald-trump-conspiracy-theories-and-co
unting-definitive-trump-conspiracy-guide

For example: 3) Hawaii Official Was Murdered In Birth Certificate Cover-up

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

How amazing, the State Health Director who verified copies of Obama’s “birth certificate” died in plane crash today. All others lived
1:32 PM-12 Dec 2013
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/411247268763676673

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Shocking scenes are occuring on the streets of San Jose as Trump supporters are chased, punched, kicked, and, as ABC News' Tom Llamas reports "terrorized" as the local police "appears to have lost control." Mobs of protestors, many carrying mexican flags

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, took over the streets ahead of a Trump rally branding tire irons and burning American flags.

Protestors made up mostly of young ppl. Some throwing up gang signs. There were ppl who came to demonstrate & some who just wanted to brawl

— Tom Llamas (@TomLlamasABC) June 3, 2016

Full video of the chaotic situation...



This @Timcast video from the #Trump protest in San Jose is really disturbing. https://t.co/wTp8idVvJH

— Blogs of War (@BlogsofWar) June 3, 2016



Social media is awash with videos of the events...

Our video of Trump supporter who says he was beaten up coming out of @realDonaldTrump rally. pic.twitter.com/PQSxjXfonl

— Tom Llamas (@TomLlamasABC) June 3, 2016



JUST IN: Trump supporters being attacked, assaulted by protestors outside Trump rally in San Jose - @Jacobnbc https://t.co/l7Lrhd7b9a

— NBC Nightly News (@NBCNightlyNews) June 3, 2016

BREAKING NEWS: Trump supporters pelted with eggs, bloodied by agitators outside San Jose rally (@SaraMurray) pic.twitter.com/AYhSaQJPoL

— Breaking News Feed (@pzf) June 3, 2016

And just general rioting...

I called 911 but no one answered. Donald trump protest in San Jose, CA pic.twitter.com/LwaWyeYZfq

— Marcus DiPaola (@marcusdipaola) June 3, 2016

Raw video: Fighting continues in streets following @realDonaldTrump rally in San Jose. pic.twitter.com/PR9zaAzZKy

— M. Scott Mahaskey (@smahaskey) June 3, 2016

Raw video: Punches thrown in clashes following @realDonaldTrump rally in San Jose. pic.twitter.com/U4d7vSbkf2

— M. Scott Mahaskey (@smahaskey) June 3, 2016

Anti-Trump rioters even burned American flags...

This happened tonight in San Jose (@dcbigjohn) pic.twitter.com/PaDrFdx5cY

— Breaking News Feed (@pzf) June 3, 2016

No this is not the streets of Tehran... this is San Jose - the best city in America to get a job!!

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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-03/trump-supporters-terrorized-m
assive-san-jose-street-brawl-police-lose-control


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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

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Are your referring to the fake suicide, or the coverup and whitewash?

Or are you trying to blend them together, muddy the facts.

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None of your false choices.

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So you are incapable of answering the simple question?
Are you confused, or is it because you shun the truth at every turn?

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It's always been a little bit unclear to what extent anyone believes Hillary shot Vince Foster in the head as opposed to cynically peddling murder theories for partisan advantage. Trump is seeking partisan advantage because he is in a fight with Hillary. See how Trump might be a liar?

How Foster died is very clear. In the days before his death, Foster was having trouble eating or sleeping. He told his sister that he was suffering from depression but was afraid that seeing a psychiatrist would cost him his security clearance. His sister provided him with the names of two DC-area psychiatrists anyway, and urged him to see one "off the record" to alleviate his clearance concerns. He called one, but got an answering machine. He spoke to his doctor on the phone in Little Rock and got a prescription for antidepressants.

Then his body was found in a park with a bullet through his head and a gun in his hand.

The US Park Police had jurisdiction over the matter and concluded, in conjunction with the FBI, that it was a suicide. Later investigations by independent counsels Robert Fisk and Kenneth Starr concluded the same thing. When a depressed man is found dead in a park with no sign of a struggle and gun residue on his hand, the natural conclusion is suicide, and every subsequent piece of evidence confirmed that finding. Depression plus easy access to firearms lead to an avoidable death, as it all too often does in the United States.

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Originally posted by second:
A list of 58 Conspiracy Theories (and Counting!) endorsed by Trump
www.alternet.org/right-wing/58-donald-trump-conspiracy-theories-and-co
unting-definitive-trump-conspiracy-guide

For example: 3) Hawaii Official Was Murdered In Birth Certificate Cover-up

How amazing, the State Health Director who verified copies of Obama’s “birth certificate” died in plane crash today. All others lived
1:32 PM-12 Dec 2013

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Trump Supporters "Terrorized" In Massive San Jose Street Brawl As Police "Lose Control"

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Shocking scenes are occuring on the streets of San Jose as Trump supporters are chased, punched, kicked, and, as ABC News' Tom Llamas reports "terrorized" as the local police "appears to have lost control." Mobs of protestors, many carrying mexican flags

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Ship them the fuck to Mexico if that's where their loyalties are

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, took over the streets ahead of a Trump rally branding tire irons and burning American flags.

Protestors made up mostly of young ppl. Some throwing up gang signs. There were ppl who came to demonstrate & some who just wanted to brawl

— Tom Llamas (@TomLlamasABC) June 3, 2016

Full video of the chaotic situation...



This @Timcast video from the #Trump protest in San Jose is really disturbing. https://t.co/wTp8idVvJH

— Blogs of War (@BlogsofWar) June 3, 2016



Social media is awash with videos of the events...

Our video of Trump supporter who says he was beaten up coming out of @realDonaldTrump rally. pic.twitter.com/PQSxjXfonl

— Tom Llamas (@TomLlamasABC) June 3, 2016



JUST IN: Trump supporters being attacked, assaulted by protestors outside Trump rally in San Jose - @Jacobnbc https://t.co/l7Lrhd7b9a

— NBC Nightly News (@NBCNightlyNews) June 3, 2016

BREAKING NEWS: Trump supporters pelted with eggs, bloodied by agitators outside San Jose rally (@SaraMurray) pic.twitter.com/AYhSaQJPoL

— Breaking News Feed (@pzf) June 3, 2016

And just general rioting...

I called 911 but no one answered. Donald trump protest in San Jose, CA pic.twitter.com/LwaWyeYZfq

— Marcus DiPaola (@marcusdipaola) June 3, 2016

Raw video: Fighting continues in streets following @realDonaldTrump rally in San Jose. pic.twitter.com/PR9zaAzZKy

— M. Scott Mahaskey (@smahaskey) June 3, 2016

Raw video: Punches thrown in clashes following @realDonaldTrump rally in San Jose. pic.twitter.com/U4d7vSbkf2

— M. Scott Mahaskey (@smahaskey) June 3, 2016

Anti-Trump rioters even burned American flags...

This happened tonight in San Jose (@dcbigjohn) pic.twitter.com/PaDrFdx5cY

— Breaking News Feed (@pzf) June 3, 2016

No this is not the streets of Tehran... this is San Jose - the best city in America to get a job!!

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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-03/trump-supporters-terrorized-m
assive-san-jose-street-brawl-police-lose-control

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Those private conversations that Paul Ryan mentioned between him and Trump culminated in Ryan’s endorsement of Trump upon the stated ground that Trump would become Ryan’s puppet. Trump, Ryan said, will support Ryan’s fiscal agenda. And regulatory agenda. And Legal Movement agenda. Which is what most large Republican donors care about. Trump’s made it clear that the federal judiciary will be a branch of Koch Industries. And that almost certainly is a promise he would keep.

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He’s assured Ryan that the Kochs, the securities and banking industry donors, and the pharmaceutical industry donors will control their respective industry’s administrative agencies, beyond anything that existed even in the Reagan and Bush II administrations. He’s done so publicly about the EPA. And undoubtedly privately regarding the others.

Ryan doesn’t trust Trump to keep his promises. But I think he needn’t worry, not because Trump himself actually understands what a promise is—he doesn’t—but because it will be Ryan and the Kochs who choose the vice presidential nominee. The person who quickly will become the actual or de facto presidential nominee or, if the ticket wins, president within a few months. Dick Cheney would be perfect.

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Too bad you're wedded to the idea of Hillary as the only alternative. Because it's not entirely clear at this point that she's going to remain unindicted, or that she'll win the general election. Too many people on both sides are enraged about the status quo = which is exactly what Hillary represents.

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Are you suggesting the Veep will run the country, the Administration, and Trump will become just a sales guy, a pitchman, somebody to grab headlines and scare the world, and tick off Americans? If so, interesting take. Do you think that dynamic has occurred before, or this would be something new?

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Too bad you're wedded to the idea of Hillary as the only alternative. Because it's not entirely clear at this point that she's going to remain unindicted, or that she'll win the general election. Too many people on both sides are enraged about the status quo = which is exactly what Hillary represents.

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I don't understand why so many don't see this. Of all the remaining candidates, she is the only one which truly embodies the status quo. Even when Cruz was in, she took the cake.

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Fuck Ben Stein.

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