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Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:45 AM
SHINYGOODGUY
Sunday, May 22, 2016 9:17 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:39 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: You'll have to try again.
Monday, May 23, 2016 9:35 AM
Quote:Politics is history in the making. History itself is the presentation of the course of a Folk's struggle for existence. I deliberately use the phrase struggle for existence here because, in truth, that struggle for daily bread, equally in peace and war, is an eternal battle against thousands upon thousands of resistances, just as life itself is an eternal struggle against death. For men know as little why they live as does any other creature of the world. Only life is filled with the longing to preserve itself. The most primitive creature knows only the instinct of the self preservation of its own, in creatures standing higher in the scale it is transferred to wife and child, and in those standing still higher to the entire species. While, apparently, man often surrenders his own instinct of self preservation for the sake of the species, in truth he nevertheless serves it to the highest degree. For not seldom the preservation of the life of a whole Folk, and with this of the individual, lies only in this renunciation by the individual. Hence the sudden courage of a mother in the defence of her young and the heroism of a man in the defence of his Folk. The two powerful life instincts, hunger and love, correspond to the greatness of the instinct for self preservation. While the appeasement of eternal hunger guarantees self preservation, the satisfaction of love assures the continuance of the race. In truth these two drives are the rulers of life. And even though the fleshless aesthete may lodge a thousand protests against such an assertion, the fact of his own existence is already a refutation of his protest. Nothing that is made of flesh and blood can escape the laws which determined its coming into being. As soon as the human mind believes itself to be superior to them, it destroys that real substance which is the bearer of the mind.
Quote:To me Vienna, the city which, to so many, is the epitome of innocent pleasure, a festive playground for merrymakers, represents, I am sorry to say, merely the living memory of the saddest period of my life. Even today this city can arouse in me nothing but the most dismal thoughts. For me the name of this Phaeacian city I represents five years of hardship and misery. Five years in which was forced to earn a living, first as a day laborer, then as a small painter; a truly meager living which never sufficed to appease even my daily hunger. Hunger was then my faithful bodyguard; he never left me for a moment and partook of all I had, share and share alike. Every book I acquired aroused his interest; a visit to the Opera prompted his attentions for days at a time; my life was a continuous struggle with this pitiless friend. And yet during this time I studied as never before. Aside from my architecture and my rare visits to the Opera, paid-for in hunger, I had but one pleasure: my books.
Monday, May 23, 2016 1:12 PM
Quote:"What do liberals offer to that"?
Monday, May 23, 2016 1:43 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I know somebody who knew somebody who lived in Weimar Germany as a boy and young man. Some people, including this person and his family, were starving. They literally boiled shoes and ate them to appease their hunger. What do liberals offer to that? Nothing! Trump knows, as Hillary can't afford to know, that the economic recovery is a mirage!
Monday, May 23, 2016 1:48 PM
Monday, May 23, 2016 2:23 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So SECOND, in reply you offer a unflattering picture and a made-up video? You've descended to THUGR-levels, who offers "raspberry wars" in lieu of a relevant reply. You're normally lucid and on-target. So, are you one of those Hillary-voters who can't explain their vote?
Quote:One of the interesting things that I heard in that extended video of the Left Forum, in which Chris Hedges speaks, was Hedges' decrying of the flabby left (my words) In essence, what he said was that if the right wing becomes powerful, it's because the left has offered no alternative to people who are suffering.
Monday, May 23, 2016 3:58 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Monday, May 23, 2016 4:48 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: second So Obama's actions to help working people? They'd aspire to being merely trivial. Also, I fully expect you to ignore these inconvenient truths that have put a lie to your false claims, just as you have ignored every other fact that proved you wrong.
Monday, May 23, 2016 4:50 PM
Monday, May 23, 2016 5:45 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: 2nd - Nothing Obama has done will put more than a modest dent in American inequality. But his actions aren’t trivial, either. 2nd - I thought this was about Trump. Am I mistaken?
Monday, May 23, 2016 6:10 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Fuck it! I'm here, why not!? There's word that he once was a cross-dresser and pulled the wings of butterflies; drowned puppies and molested little girls in Southern Ohio. Benghazi was his idea (he really wanted that oil) and he once Instagrammed a pic of him and Qaddaffi ball slapping each other. Marla Maples was really a guy who blackmailed The Donald. And he wears an SS uniform while dancing to the music of the Dusseldorf Five; with a black Hitler mustache thong. Hey this made up shit is FUN! One more time, Benghazi was his idea. Damn!, that feels good. Now I know why you guys use it against Hilary, so much fun! SGG
Monday, May 23, 2016 6:14 PM
Monday, May 23, 2016 6:21 PM
THGRRI
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So SECOND, in reply you offer a unflattering picture and a made-up video? You've descended to THUGR-levels, who offers "raspberry wars" in lieu of a relevant reply. You're normally lucid and on-target. So, are you one of those Hillary-voters who can't explain their vote? My question of second's recent post trend of sensibility has been seconded.
Monday, May 23, 2016 6:23 PM
Monday, May 23, 2016 7:42 PM
Tuesday, May 24, 2016 7:04 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: "Congress follows the 1% because the bottom 50% can't be bothered to vote or read the paper “Why Hasn’t Democracy Slowed Rising Inequality?”." You know that saying - if you find yourself in a hole the first thing to do is STOP DIGGING? That applies to Obama, to Hillary, and the 'democratic' party. And their failure to do that is the reason why they have lost American hearts and minds and, oh let's not forget, congress and the governorships. 50% of voters USED to identify as 'd'. And they USED to come out and VOTE. Now it's down to 30%. And their vote is in question. It's not a 'them' fault. They know how to support the democratic party. They've done it before. It's a 'democratic' party fault that walked away from its vision of fairness, opportunity, freedom and hope. When was the last time the 'democrats' stood for something? And what is Hillary doing to bring people back into the 'd' fold? Courting republicans? Schmoozing with her fellow neocons?
Tuesday, May 24, 2016 7:18 AM
Tuesday, May 24, 2016 7:21 AM
Tuesday, May 24, 2016 7:23 AM
Tuesday, May 24, 2016 8:49 AM
Tuesday, May 24, 2016 10:02 AM
Quote:Originally posted by G: I look forward to watching John Oliver's take from last Sunday.
Tuesday, May 24, 2016 5:46 PM
Quote:Originally posted by G: Trump's people move some things in before Obama can move out... a vision of a new White House, same ole' Amerika.
Tuesday, May 24, 2016 8:49 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Trump says Hillary murdered Vince Foster www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/05/trumpapalooza-may-23-2016 The right-wing fever swamp has long believed that Vince Foster, a deputy White House counsel in the Clinton administration, didn't commit suicide on July 20, 1993. Rather, Hillary Clinton had him murdered and then ordered his body dragged to Fort Marcy Park, where he was found the next day. Even by conservative standards this is both fantastical and repulsive
Tuesday, May 24, 2016 9:08 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Are your referring to the fake suicide, or the coverup and whitewash? Or are you trying to blend them together, muddy the facts.
Wednesday, May 25, 2016 5:36 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Fuck it! I'm here, why not!? There's word that he once was a cross-dresser and pulled the wings of butterflies; drowned puppies and molested little girls in Southern Ohio. Benghazi was his idea (he really wanted that oil) and he once Instagrammed a pic of him and Qaddaffi ball slapping each other. Marla Maples was really a guy who blackmailed The Donald. And he wears an SS uniform while dancing to the music of the Dusseldorf Five; with a black Hitler mustache thong. Hey this made up shit is FUN! One more time, Benghazi was his idea. Damn!, that feels good. Now I know why you guys use it against Hilary, so much fun! SGG This must be the lamest attempt at strawman argument for reasonable people to ignore all the facts, truth, anecdotes of Hilliary, and all of the crimes she has committed. It's like you are not even trying to be credible, which makes a poor comparison to all of the incredibly credible points about Hilliary.
Wednesday, May 25, 2016 5:43 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by G: I look forward to watching John Oliver's take from last Sunday. John Oliver destroyed Donald Trump, 5/16/2016 The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Wednesday, May 25, 2016 5:46 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Trump on Global Warming www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/05/trumpapalooza-may-23-2016 Publicly, Trump has made it clear that he thinks global warming is a hoax. But when it comes to building a sea wall to protect one of his golf courses, it turns out he's a true believer: "If the predictions of an increase in sea level rise as a result of global warming prove correct," his company says in a letter, "it could reasonably be expected that the rate of sea level rise might become twice of that presently occurring....As a result, we would expect the rate of dune recession to increase."
Wednesday, May 25, 2016 5:51 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Trump says Hillary murdered Vince Foster www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/05/trumpapalooza-may-23-2016 The right-wing fever swamp has long believed that Vince Foster, a deputy White House counsel in the Clinton administration, didn't commit suicide on July 20, 1993. Rather, Hillary Clinton had him murdered and then ordered his body dragged to Fort Marcy Park, where he was found the next day. Even by conservative standards this is both fantastical and repulsive (Foster was a good friend of Hillary's). Naturally, that didn't stop Trump: When asked in an interview last week about the Foster case, Trump dealt with it as he has with many edgy topics — raising doubts about the official version of events even as he says he does not plan to talk about it on the campaign trail. He called theories of possible foul play “very serious” and the circumstances of Foster’s death “very fishy.” “He had intimate knowledge of what was going on,” Trump said, speaking of Foster’s relationship with the Clintons at the time. “He knew everything that was going on, and then all of a sudden he committed suicide.” He added, “I don’t bring [Foster’s death] up because I don’t know enough to really discuss it. I will say there are people who continue to bring it up because they think it was absolutely a murder. I don’t do that because I don’t think it’s fair.”
Wednesday, May 25, 2016 6:05 AM
Quote:Originally posted by G: Quote:Originally posted by second: Someone I knew who had worked for a soap opera production company once told me that weddings were a no-no in a soap opera, the reason being that the TV station would be inundated with wedding gifts for the fictional newlyweds, from fans who were unable distinguish fact from fiction, reality from TV. I used to blame the great unwashed too, but have since taken a more charitable position. It turns out that expecting them to suddenly rise up and learn a thing or 2 about ANYTHING (food, art, politics, great science fiction shows) is in itself, pretty damn stupid. The sample size is the whole of recorded human history - it proves that it hasn't and won't happen, so check - don't expect people to wise up. In fact, count on them not doing so! To me, worse and quantifiably more responsible, are those that have enough intelligence to know better, but let emotion and an unrepentant egotism blind them into following a darker, more selfish path. "I know better than you!" Both parties are over flowing with these types. So I blame them first and foremost - they are the ones that have the power to control who gets shoved in our face to pick from. Just look at the 17 riders of the GOP Apocolypse. How can you blame simple people for only having them to choose from? 17 choices and no options. Dems are only a little better. Plus, there's the mechanics of choosing. I see where we're finally at a place where more than 50% of voters will likely cast their vote based on "anyone but the other person..." How is that not a total indictment of the whole election process? I look forward to watching John Oliver's take from last Sunday.
Quote:Originally posted by second: Someone I knew who had worked for a soap opera production company once told me that weddings were a no-no in a soap opera, the reason being that the TV station would be inundated with wedding gifts for the fictional newlyweds, from fans who were unable distinguish fact from fiction, reality from TV.
Wednesday, May 25, 2016 6:08 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: SHINY, whatever point you're trying to make is muddled by your attempt at humor/sarcasm. You'll have to try again. -------------- You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
Wednesday, May 25, 2016 7:47 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Disturbing but true, G. People have been subjected to the "dumbing down" effect across the country. Only in America, the country I love, has been flim-flammed. "We worship" a dumb family for their antics and sexual exploits, pay sports stars millions for playing a game, but pay teachers - the most important and influential persons in our children's lives outside the family - peanuts. How could we do anything but fail behind that approach to life. And here we have the end result, Donald J. Trump.......con man extraordinaire. P.T. Barnum was right. SGG Quote:Originally posted by G: I see where we're finally at a place where more than 50% of voters will likely cast their vote based on "anyone but the other person..."
Quote:Originally posted by G: I see where we're finally at a place where more than 50% of voters will likely cast their vote based on "anyone but the other person..."
Wednesday, May 25, 2016 8:23 AM
Quote: To Whom My Concern: I have been the personal physician of Mr. Donald J. Trump since 1980. His previous physician was my father, Dr. Jacob Bornstein. Over the past 39 years, I am pleased to report that Mr. Trump has had no significant medical problems. Mr. Trump has had a recent complete medical examination that showed only positive results. Actually, his blood pressure, 110/65, and laboratory test results were astonishingly excellent. Over the past twelve months, he has lost at least fifteen pounds. Mr. Trump takes 81 mg of aspirin daily and a low dose of a statin. His PSA test score is 0.15 (very low). His physical strength and stamina are extraordinary. Mr. Trump has suffered no form of cancer, has never had a hip, knee or shoulder replacement or any other orthopedic surgery. His only surgery was an appendectomy at age ten. His cardiovascular status is excellent. He has no history of ever using alcohol or tobacco products. If elected, Mr. Trump, I can state unequivocally, will be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency.
Wednesday, May 25, 2016 9:58 AM
Wednesday, May 25, 2016 12:38 PM
Wednesday, May 25, 2016 1:24 PM
Wednesday, May 25, 2016 8:05 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Are your referring to the fake suicide, or the coverup and whitewash? Or are you trying to blend them together, muddy the facts. None of your false choices.
Wednesday, May 25, 2016 8:39 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Are your referring to the fake suicide, or the coverup and whitewash? Or are you trying to blend them together, muddy the facts. None of your false choices. So you are incapable of answering the simple question? Are you confused, or is it because you shun the truth at every turn?
Thursday, May 26, 2016 1:30 AM
Thursday, May 26, 2016 7:02 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: second While I have no doubt about the sheer meanness of republicans . . . It's easy to extend the generous hand when you feel your own life is secure. But when it starts to become a zero-sum system, their gain is your loss; and suddenly, people become far less charitable. . . . Well fuck [Hillary] and the disease-riddled donkey she's whipping to the finish line so she can pocket her gold.
Thursday, May 26, 2016 8:06 AM
Thursday, May 26, 2016 5:55 PM
Thursday, May 26, 2016 7:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Jayne (or Adam Baldwin) tweeted today that ‘Real Women’ Like Trump https://twitter.com/AdamBaldwin Rush Limbaugh declared today that “real women” like Donald Trump, and in case you’re wondering, yes, he did define exactly what constitutes a “real woman”: “Not left-wing activist Feminazi-type women, you know the type of women I’m talking about. The girl next door, the businesswoman, the woman that’s confident, the woman that likes herself––those are the kind of women we’re talking about here. Wholesome American woman.” Limbaugh made it clear he’s “not talking about women that are angry, that feel like they’re victims of something, that think men are the biggest obstacles they face on earth.” He went on to declare that these “real women” like Trump because “he’s not PC-whipped” and “he stands up for himself.” Because, Limbaugh concluded, “no real woman respects any man who can be so easily PC-whipped… and whatever else that you might say about Trump, that is something that he isn’t.”
Thursday, May 26, 2016 9:02 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: All of those facts must really burn you.
Thursday, May 26, 2016 9:41 PM
Friday, May 27, 2016 2:27 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Politics is history in the making. History itself is the presentation of the course of a Folk's struggle for existence. I deliberately use the phrase struggle for existence here because, in truth, that struggle for daily bread, equally in peace and war, is an eternal battle against thousands upon thousands of resistances, just as life itself is an eternal struggle against death. For men know as little why they live as does any other creature of the world. Only life is filled with the longing to preserve itself. The most primitive creature knows only the instinct of the self preservation of its own, in creatures standing higher in the scale it is transferred to wife and child, and in those standing still higher to the entire species. While, apparently, man often surrenders his own instinct of self preservation for the sake of the species, in truth he nevertheless serves it to the highest degree. For not seldom the preservation of the life of a whole Folk, and with this of the individual, lies only in this renunciation by the individual. Hence the sudden courage of a mother in the defence of her young and the heroism of a man in the defence of his Folk. The two powerful life instincts, hunger and love, correspond to the greatness of the instinct for self preservation. While the appeasement of eternal hunger guarantees self preservation, the satisfaction of love assures the continuance of the race. In truth these two drives are the rulers of life. And even though the fleshless aesthete may lodge a thousand protests against such an assertion, the fact of his own existence is already a refutation of his protest. Nothing that is made of flesh and blood can escape the laws which determined its coming into being. As soon as the human mind believes itself to be superior to them, it destroys that real substance which is the bearer of the mind. My Order- Adolph Hitler Quote:To me Vienna, the city which, to so many, is the epitome of innocent pleasure, a festive playground for merrymakers, represents, I am sorry to say, merely the living memory of the saddest period of my life. Even today this city can arouse in me nothing but the most dismal thoughts. For me the name of this Phaeacian city I represents five years of hardship and misery. Five years in which was forced to earn a living, first as a day laborer, then as a small painter; a truly meager living which never sufficed to appease even my daily hunger. Hunger was then my faithful bodyguard; he never left me for a moment and partook of all I had, share and share alike. Every book I acquired aroused his interest; a visit to the Opera prompted his attentions for days at a time; my life was a continuous struggle with this pitiless friend. And yet during this time I studied as never before. Aside from my architecture and my rare visits to the Opera, paid-for in hunger, I had but one pleasure: my books. Mein Kampf- Adolph Hitler One of the interesting things that I heard in that extended video of the Left Forum, in which Chris Hedges speaks, was Hedges' decrying of the flabby left (my words) In essence, what he said was that if the right wing becomes powerful, it's because the left has offered no alternative to people who are suffering. https://www.rt.com/usa/343942-left-forum-day-two/ (Hedges starting at about 38 minutes) Too true. I know somebody who knew somebody who lived in Weimar Germany as a boy and young man. (He is dead now, passed away a decade ago.) Some people, including this person and his family, were starving. They literally boiled shoes and ate them to appease their hunger. What do liberals offer to that? Nothing. They vote for Hillary, who was one of the supporters of gutting welfare as we know it. Trump knows, as Hillary can't afford to know, that the economic recovery is a mirage and that jobs have been exported overseas or given to illegals at home. Now whether Trump will actually do anything about it is an open question, but Hillary will certainly opt for More Of The Same. -------------- You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
Friday, May 27, 2016 2:29 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:"What do liberals offer to that"? Not "to whom". "That": kind of situation, that kind of problem. Not person. That person was an example of a problem. To answer the question more fully, liberals "feel sorry" for the dispossessed. Sometimes they institute charity, or they allow mass migration into their nations, or - in a fit of mutated logic- they can be induced into bombing people to smithereens with the idea that this somehow "protects" the victims. Seldom do liberals ask WHY and HOW people have become dispossessed in the first place. If they did, they might have to challenge the powerful. "Pity would be no more if we did not MAKE men poor" -------------- You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
Friday, May 27, 2016 2:47 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I know somebody who knew somebody who lived in Weimar Germany as a boy and young man. Some people, including this person and his family, were starving. They literally boiled shoes and ate them to appease their hunger. What do liberals offer to that? Nothing! Trump knows, as Hillary can't afford to know, that the economic recovery is a mirage! Cranky today, aren't you? Look what Trump has to offer. Do I need to mention that Trump has a secret plan to defeat ISIS? He can't share it right now. You'll have to wait until after he is elected. If you don't elect him, he won't be able to let the Pentagon know any of his carefully worked out details. https://twitter.com/RabidParrots/status/672034951399792641 The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Friday, May 27, 2016 2:52 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by second: Jayne (or Adam Baldwin) tweeted today that ‘Real Women’ Like Trump https://twitter.com/AdamBaldwin Rush Limbaugh declared today that “real women” like Donald Trump, and in case you’re wondering, yes, he did define exactly what constitutes a “real woman”: “Not left-wing activist Feminazi-type women, you know the type of women I’m talking about. The girl next door, the businesswoman, the woman that’s confident, the woman that likes herself––those are the kind of women we’re talking about here. Wholesome American woman.” Limbaugh made it clear he’s “not talking about women that are angry, that feel like they’re victims of something, that think men are the biggest obstacles they face on earth.” He went on to declare that these “real women” like Trump because “he’s not PC-whipped” and “he stands up for himself.” Because, Limbaugh concluded, “no real woman respects any man who can be so easily PC-whipped… and whatever else that you might say about Trump, that is something that he isn’t.” All of those facts must really burn you.
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