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Hillary Clinton: just because she deserves her own thread
Monday, April 25, 2016 10:27 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Monday, April 25, 2016 10:56 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: second So, let me ask again: in light of her on-the-record evilness, which she's neither renounced nor modified, why should I vote FOR Hillary? What about my future with Hillary is so awesome that I should rethink my evaluation of her?
Tuesday, April 26, 2016 1:04 AM
Tuesday, April 26, 2016 4:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: So the question remains - why should I, and the millions of people like me, vote FOR her?
Tuesday, April 26, 2016 9:19 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:What, if anything, is factually wrong with the article? I wouldn't put it past you, "G"ONEOFTHETHREESTOOGES, to have gone thru all of the points in Paul Craig Roberts'* article and to ignore all of the provable supportive facts that you found, and the additional muck that you dug up, simply to focus on the most trivial and least supported. Because ... Hillary! ... yanno? - SIGNY Wrong as usual. You spend so much effort posting and quoting what is known or is old news or old speculation - do you have evidence apart from web articles? Most every one of those so called facts, is either well known or simply well repeated. Repeated enough for folks like you who dislike her (maybe hate?) to re-repeat them and feel like you're in-the-know. Sorry, John Paul Thomas is nothing special, just another amateur poli 'Net wonk wanna be. Your husband maybe?= ONEOFTHETREESTOOGES
Quote:Wait ... wha ...? You're attacking a man because of HIS NAME??? How about ... Martin Luther King? Gosh, with such a hyperbolic name, I guess he had nothing worthwhile to say! James Earl Jones? Couldn't have been much of an actor! George Walker Bush Sounds like some hick from Bumfuk Kentucky. Couldn't have gotten very far in his life! Franklin Delano Roosevelt Gosh, with a name like that, I'll bet he was given to hyperbole too. He might have even said something exaggerated like We have nothing to fear but fear itself. What a twit [FDR must have been]! You have plumbed the depths of "nothing rational to say", ONEOFTHETHREESTOOGES. You suck as a source of reasonable discussion, but you're sometimes a hoot! - SIGNY Come on Beavis, it's right there in front of you. Right. There. You even point it out! PCR wants us to think of him as a great thinker, a great something, in the same league as the other famous people you mentioned. Wait, wasn't that the point of your post? His conceit?
Quote:I love this: ONEOFTHETRHEESTOOGES: Did Hillary not call President Vladimir Putin of Russia the “new Hitler”? SIGNY: Well, not exactly! What she did was compare what Hitler did to what Putin did! Yep, and doesn't that comparison ring true? Doesn't that shock you a little? Aren't you concerned that Dick Willy Johnson shows little regard for the facts, and prefers spin? Of course it doesn't! That's where you live! You don't care about the truth, just if you can use it and bend it and fake it. Swears, you should be in politics with these other lying frauds.
Quote:Yep, and doesn't that comparison ring true?
Wednesday, April 27, 2016 12:18 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: There is an itty-bitty reason for the Democratic party (by that I mean everyone but you) to pick Hillary: Bernie can't win the general election. meow! personal, much?
Quote:"I congratulate Secretary Clinton on her victories tonight, and I look forward to issue-oriented campaigns in the 14 contests to come. I am proud that we were able to win a resounding victory tonight in Rhode Island, the one state with an open primary where independents had a say in the outcome. Democrats should recognize that the ticket with the best chance of winning this November must attract support from independents as well as Democrats. I am proud of my campaign’s record in that regard. The people in every state in this country should have the right to determine who they want as president and what the agenda of the Democratic Party should be. That’s why we are in this race until the last vote is cast. That is why this campaign is going to the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia with as many delegates as possible to fight for a progressive party platform that calls for a $15 an hour minimum wage, an end to our disastrous trade policies, a Medicare-for-all health care system, breaking up Wall Street financial institutions, ending fracking in our country, making public colleges and universities tuition free and passing a carbon tax so we can effectively address the planetary crisis of climate change."
Wednesday, April 27, 2016 12:50 AM
Wednesday, April 27, 2016 1:13 AM
Wednesday, April 27, 2016 7:29 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Polling suggests the party is becoming less unified, not more. In March, 78% of Democratic primary voters said they would be satisfied if Mrs. Clinton were the nominee. In April, that fell to 73%, according to Wall Street Journal/NBC News polling. Asked if they could see themselves supporting Mrs. Clinton for president, just 58% of Sanders primary voters said yes, with 40% saying no, according to the April poll.
Wednesday, April 27, 2016 9:36 AM
Wednesday, April 27, 2016 10:01 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: G-STOOGE, you just lied through an entire post. Too bad you can't quote yourself to demonstrate your points. Wow. A poster who can't even quote itself about what it said. That's quite a novelty. In fact, I think it's the first time I've ever seen that here, and that's saying something. Well done! Oh, and just as an aside... I'm not about to get into an extended argument about the various ways that you lied about what you yourself said. Since you can't be bothered to stand behind your own words, what's the point? -------------- You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
Quote:Republicans Are The Party Of Death — Guest Column by Pat Buchanan Like myself, Pat Buchanan has given up on Republicans. We have reached the point where even a crazed, corrupt Hillary is better than a Republican. Everyone who votes Republican is voting for Nuclear War and the end of the world. There is not one ounce of sense or humanity in the Republican Party.
Wednesday, April 27, 2016 12:15 PM
REAVERFAN
Wednesday, April 27, 2016 2:49 PM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Republicans traditionally love war, and so does Hillary. . . . She talks of "smart power," which is essentially constant permawar forever. That's the dream of the 1%, and they are who she serves. . . . we will have permawar forever. Good job, sheep.
Wednesday, April 27, 2016 5:59 PM
THGRRI
Wednesday, April 27, 2016 11:53 PM
Thursday, April 28, 2016 6:47 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: IF democrats were smarter, they'd lean on the party so that it would actually represent THEM, and not be distracted by some concocted Goldberg-style phantom enemy to keep people focused on 'them'.
Quote: Instead democrats, like you, choose a 'side' to give their vote to, whether or nor that 'side' will do you, them, the country, or the plant, any good.
Quote:Democrats, this is why you need to fear Hillary Clinton: The NY Times is absolutely right — she’s a bigger hawk than the Republicans.
Thursday, April 28, 2016 8:08 AM
Thursday, April 28, 2016 10:20 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: I love Bernie and am glad he pulled Hilary far to the left. But TWO you have to remember. He is a socialist and most democrats are not. TWO, 1kiki is a communist.
Thursday, April 28, 2016 10:54 AM
KPO
Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.
Quote:What, if anything, is factually wrong with the article? you had NOT A SINGLE THING TO SAY ABOUT THE FACTS LISTED IN THE ARTICLE.
Quote:Hillary Clinton... would likely be the most reckless president in American history... Hillary’s arrogant self-confidence is likely to result in over-reach that ends in conflict between NATO and Russia. Considering the extraordinary destructive force of nuclear weapons, Hillary as president could mean the end of life on earth.
Thursday, April 28, 2016 12:50 PM
Quote:Originally posted by kpo: Considering the extraordinary destructive force of nuclear weapons, Hillary as president could mean the end of life on earth.
Thursday, April 28, 2016 2:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by kpo: I hear you Sig, warmongers are the worst. Except Russian ones <3 <3 #PutinFangirlsForever Yes, because defending one nation from jihadists is so much worse than destabilizing two nations and destroying another, to the benefit of jihadism. Yanno what they say, KthirdstoogePO - "the proof of the pudding". Since peace has broken out in Syria and all of the enemies are holding hands in Geneva and singing kumbayah (except the Kurds, who really need to be included) ... what are you bitching about THIS time? Care to compare Syria to the USA projects: Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, and Sudan ... to Syria - which was a former USA project and heading into the toilet along with the rest? Or do you think the USA might suffer in the process? Nevermind, I know the answer already.
Quote:Originally posted by kpo: I hear you Sig, warmongers are the worst. Except Russian ones <3 <3 #PutinFangirlsForever
Thursday, April 28, 2016 3:44 PM
Quote:Originally posted by kpo: Second/Two, we had the "ethics of nuclear weapons" debate back in the Hiroshima thread. Well we didn't, but I tried for a while.
Quote:"And Harry Truman, with what he did in dropping and having the guts to drop the bomb in 1945 saved, saved millions of American lives," Knight said. "And that's what Harry Truman did. And he became one of the three great presidents of the United States. And here's a man who would do the same thing, because he's going to become one of the four great presidents of the United States." "Such a great guy. Wow. How do you top that? How do you top that?" Trump said. "You should be very proud of him in Indiana ... That is a national treasure, OK?"
Friday, April 29, 2016 9:31 AM
Quote:Do I need to editorialize about how much money, material, and manpower Curtis LeMay wasted?
Friday, April 29, 2016 10:02 AM
Quote:Originally posted by kpo: Quote:What, if anything, is factually wrong with the article? you had NOT A SINGLE THING TO SAY ABOUT THE FACTS LISTED IN THE ARTICLE. So Sig, kiki, are you guys prepared to side with the predictions made by this article you keep going on about? From the article: "Hillary Clinton... would likely be the most reckless president in American history... Hillary’s arrogant self-confidence is likely to result in over-reach that ends in conflict between NATO and Russia. Considering the extraordinary destructive force of nuclear weapons, Hillary as president could mean the end of life on earth."
Friday, April 29, 2016 11:13 AM
Quote:Originally posted by kpo: Quote:Do I need to editorialize about how much money, material, and manpower Curtis LeMay wasted? No, because that's not how you conduct a debate. That was the problem with the last time. I'll remind you, from the old thread: KPO: "I have opined quite a lot in this thread, giving my thoughts on this matter and others. You have not paid attention even when I've responded directly to your questions, so I don't see the point in doing so again." I might as well turn on my television and try to argue with it.
Friday, April 29, 2016 10:09 PM
Quote:Originally posted by kpo: Bump for kiki and Signy. Quote:Originally posted by kpo: Quote:What, if anything, is factually wrong with the article? you had NOT A SINGLE THING TO SAY ABOUT THE FACTS LISTED IN THE ARTICLE. So Sig, kiki, are you guys prepared to side with the predictions made by this article you keep going on about? From the article: "Hillary Clinton... would likely be the most reckless president in American history... Hillary’s arrogant self-confidence is likely to result in over-reach that ends in conflict between NATO and Russia. Considering the extraordinary destructive force of nuclear weapons, Hillary as president could mean the end of life on earth."
Friday, April 29, 2016 11:35 PM
Quote:1kiki and SIG the doom and gloom bitches. Its always doom and gloom with them.
Saturday, April 30, 2016 9:06 AM
Quote:Originally posted by G: Going to be a little moot if "Hillary as president could mean the end of life on earth." Free One: It's planet Earth - there's always going to be doom and gloom. You don't get points for predicting that.
Quote:In 1995, Russian systems mistook a Norwegian weather rocket for a potential nuclear attack. Russian President Boris Yeltsin retrieved launch codes and had the nuclear suitcase open in front of him. Thankfully, Russian leaders decided the incident was a false alarm.
Saturday, April 30, 2016 1:35 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Republicans traditionally love war, and so does Hillary. . . . She talks of "smart power," which is essentially constant permawar forever. That's the dream of the 1%, and they are who she serves. . . . we will have permawar forever. Good job, sheep. "Smart power" means don't let hot-heads and stupid-asses decide military policy. Hillary might be unwilling to let a bunch of angry, dim-bulb Admirals and Generals ruin the next eight years of her life. I can't prove it but it’s possible that Hillary is cynical about the Pentagon’s truthfulness and competence. She might not trust the Pentagon to solve her problems, since she has seen how it has, instead, created enormous problems for all Presidents since WWII. For the amount of money poured into the military and the amount of time Presidents have to take to managing it, there is not much achieved by it in the last 70 years. The Pentagon took credit for the end of the Cold War, but those guys are liars and Hillary knows it. www.ushistory.org/us/59e.asp
Saturday, April 30, 2016 2:18 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by G: Going to be a little moot if "Hillary as president could mean the end of life on earth." Free One: It's planet Earth - there's always going to be doom and gloom. You don't get points for predicting that. Quoting the Operative: "It's worse than you think." According to the Atlantic Monthly: Human Extinction Isn't That Unlikely “A typical person is more than five times as likely to die in an extinction event as in a car crash,” says a new report. Nuclear war. Climate change. Pandemics that kill tens of millions. These are the most viable threats to globally organized civilization. They’re the stuff of nightmares and blockbusters—but unlike sea monsters or zombie viruses, they’re real, part of the calculus that political leaders consider everyday. And according to a new report from the U.K.-based Global Challenges Foundation, they’re much more likely than we might think. www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/04/a-human-extinction-isnt-that-unlikely/480444/ Hillary is gonna kill you if you don't watch out! Or it might be Putin, since drunkard Yeltsin died:Quote:In 1995, Russian systems mistook a Norwegian weather rocket for a potential nuclear attack. Russian President Boris Yeltsin retrieved launch codes and had the nuclear suitcase open in front of him. Thankfully, Russian leaders decided the incident was a false alarm.
Saturday, April 30, 2016 6:04 PM
Saturday, April 30, 2016 6:23 PM
Sunday, May 1, 2016 7:11 PM
Sunday, May 1, 2016 7:26 PM
Monday, May 2, 2016 11:45 AM
Monday, May 2, 2016 11:48 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: So, let me just post this quote, which is still 100% true: With all of the chaff that you threw into your post, it would be easy to overlook the fact that you had NOT A SINGLE THING TO SAY ABOUT THE FACTS LISTED IN THE ARTICLE.
Monday, May 2, 2016 1:40 PM
Wednesday, May 4, 2016 1:52 PM
Quote:I LISTED the facts in the article. The last part of the article was opinion
Quote:So by the way, when will YOU respond to the facts of the article?
Wednesday, May 4, 2016 3:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by G: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: You ass. I haven't dealt with that article. Go suck your own cock. Heh - the mask slips, the troll is revealed.
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: You ass. I haven't dealt with that article. Go suck your own cock.
Wednesday, May 4, 2016 7:33 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/delegate-targets/democrats/ At present Clinton has 1662 pledged delegates while Sanders has 1373. It's now a 55/45 split. (It used to be 57/43.) While Sanders won't be able to overtake her, his relative popularity is going up, while Clinton's is going down. My impression is still correct - the democratic party is split nearly in half.
Wednesday, May 4, 2016 11:50 PM
Thursday, May 5, 2016 7:57 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: "Heh - the mask slips, the troll is revealed." Said the kpoONEOFTHETHREESTOOGEStroll who's been very stupidly trolling me to discuss something I didn't post.
Saturday, May 7, 2016 8:14 AM
Quote:Originally posted by kpo: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: "Heh - the mask slips, the troll is revealed." Said the kpoONEOFTHETHREESTOOGEStroll who's been very stupidly trolling me to discuss something I didn't post. Firstly, I didn't say that, and secondly, you backed the article and Signy's pushing of it. I quoted you. So do you stand by the article's conclusions or not? You too Siggy. Are you both afraid that the predictions will turn out false and you will look foolish?
Saturday, May 7, 2016 8:24 AM
Quote:As we reported yesterday, just when Hillary thought the email scandal was behind her, and she could shift her focus to the newly minted GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump, an order by Judge Emmet Sullivan of the U.S. District Court decided to lay out ground rules for interviewing multiple State Department officials, and ordered at least six current and former State Department employees to answer questions, all in an effort to finish the depositions in the weeks before the party nominating conventions. On the heels of interviewing Hillary Clinton's top personal aide Huma Abedin, as we detailed previously, it appears The FBI is finally ready to go after the Emailer-in-chief herself...
Saturday, May 7, 2016 6:08 PM
Sunday, May 8, 2016 2:56 PM
RIVERLOVE
Sunday, May 8, 2016 5:06 PM
Wednesday, May 11, 2016 4:55 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by kpo: Quote:Do I need to editorialize about how much money, material, and manpower Curtis LeMay wasted? No, because that's not how you conduct a debate. That was the problem with the last time. I'll remind you, from the old thread: KPO: "I have opined quite a lot in this thread, giving my thoughts on this matter and others. You have not paid attention even when I've responded directly to your questions, so I don't see the point in doing so again." I might as well turn on my television and try to argue with it. You made your position clear at www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=59952&mid=1001370#1001370
Wednesday, May 11, 2016 5:27 AM
Quote:My god, you're a troll. I don't "back" anybody's predictions except ... the ones I back. Certainly not the ones you're attempting to pin on me.
Wednesday, May 11, 2016 8:17 AM
Quote:Originally posted by kpo: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by kpo: Quote:Do I need to editorialize about how much money, material, and manpower Curtis LeMay wasted? No, because that's not how you conduct a debate. That was the problem with the last time. I'll remind you, from the old thread: KPO: "I have opined quite a lot in this thread, giving my thoughts on this matter and others. You have not paid attention even when I've responded directly to your questions, so I don't see the point in doing so again." I might as well turn on my television and try to argue with it. You made your position clear at www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=59952&mid=1001370#1001370 So what was my position?
Quote:Adam Baldwin Retweeted Kurt Schlichter @KurtSchlichter 19h19 hours ago One US Soldier's life > Hiroshima. I bet Trump agrees. I bet Hillary doesn't. Vote accordingly. https://twitter.com/KurtSchlichter/status/730082105439346689
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