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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

This time the talk is of Vaxxed. . . .

Yes, I do understand that some of you pro-autism fanatics do not want the cause to be exposed, either. Tough, too late now.

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Originally posted by DEVERSE:

The film was "censored"?

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Originally posted by second:
The U.S. cost of autism over the lifespan is about $2.4 million for a person with an intellectual disability, or $1.4 million for a person without intellectual disability.

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Originally posted by second:
The U.S. cost of autism over the lifespan is about $2.4 million for a person with an intellectual disability, or $1.4 million for a person without intellectual disability.

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Without reading any more, I have to stop it at this, respectfully, Second....

$1.4 million for a person WITHOUT intellectual disability????

I live on my own. I made about 1.5k last year working. I made roughly 3k on unemployment. I withdrew about 2k of my retirement savings.

Under 7 Thousand Dollars.

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Originally posted by second:

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Originally posted by second:
The U.S. cost of autism over the lifespan is about $2.4 million for a person with an intellectual disability, or $1.4 million for a person without intellectual disability.

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Without reading any more, I have to stop it at this, respectfully, Second....

$1.4 million for a person WITHOUT intellectual disability????

I live on my own. I made about 1.5k last year working. I made roughly 3k on unemployment. I withdrew about 2k of my retirement savings.

Under 7 Thousand Dollars.

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On $7,000 per year, you could be middle class in the Philippines. Or a prince (or princess, depending) in rural India. You could also become a Buddhist while there. It's the thing to do when you've got problems. And they speak English is those two countries, too.

On the other hand, Bloomberg's estimate of $1,400,000 divided by the 25 more years you think you've got will give you $56,000 per year right where you are. You'd definitely be middle class without needing a passport or visa to India. And I think that is what Bloomberg was going for: living a middle class life even though there is autism in the family. And you could still become a Buddhist from the comfort of your own home in the heartland of America, without ever going to India.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

This time the talk is of Vaxxed. . . .

Yes, I do understand that some of you pro-autism fanatics do not want the cause to be exposed, either. Tough, too late now.

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Did you know that Andrew Wakefield directed Vaxxed?

Did you know that Andrew Wakefield published a study in The Lancet suggesting that vaccines caused autism?

Did you know that in 2010 Andrew Wakefield's vaccine study was retracted?

Did you know that Wakefield's medical license was revoked

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Did you know that Vaxxed is not some sort of disinterested investigation into the 'vaccines cause autism' hoax, but is directed by the person who perpetuated the hoax?

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

So what's youre point? Who do I have to vote for to get to sit on my ass and hide in my house everyday for the rest of my life and get paid more per year than I ever made when I was actually successful and gave a shit about life?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

EDITED TO ADD: I don't believe I'm Autistic. I'm confident I'm OCD, and I'm pretty sure there's some Ass Burgers in there. :)

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

And should you genuflect to everything wiki posts? Before all of the corrections come it?
Do you really genuflect to everything CDC says?

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

And should you genuflect to everything wiki posts? Before all of the corrections come it?
Do you really genuflect to everything CDC says?

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I have the ultimate source: The Hollywood Reporter, which I shall now quote from.
www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/anti-vaccine-doc-vaxxed-a-882651

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Originally posted by second:
The U.S. cost of autism over the lifespan is about $2.4 million for a person with an intellectual disability, or $1.4 million for a person without intellectual disability.
www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-06-09/autism-costs-more-than-2-mi
llion-over-patient-s-life

I saw "What Causes Autism" at www.mychildwithoutlimits.org/understand/autism/what-causes-autism/

In the past several years, there has been interest in a theory that suggested a link between autism and the use of thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative used in the measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine. Although mercury is no longer found in childhood vaccines in the United States, some parents still have concerns about vaccinations.

However, many well-done, large-scale studies have now been performed that have failed to show a link between thimerosal and autism. A panel from the Institute of Medicine is now examining these studies. The reports include a large Danish study that concluded that there was no causal relationship between childhood vaccination using thimerosal-containing vaccines and the development of an autism spectrum disorder and a U.S. study looking at exposure to mercury, lead, and other heavy metals. Both the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention asert that there is no link between autism and the MMR vaccine or any other vaccine.

Other potential causes of autism are environmental toxins, including pesticides and heavy metals such as mercury. Heavy metals are certainly more commonly encountered in the environment now than they were in the past. It may be that people with autism or those at higher risk for developing it are more sensitive than others to these toxins.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I tried a search for the threads discussing or disputing Cencored Films or Books, but could not find what I was looking for. So here I put it in the title.

This time the talk is of Vaxxed. Banned from recent film festivals, including the Tribeca by Censor Robert DeNiro. He didn't want the truth to be exposed to the light of day, or his Film Festival.
Seems to be a documentary about scientifically proven facts, not the Michael Moore type fake-umentary jibberish. Plus the coverup and denials of the Libtards and other government-control-is-best freaks.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5562652/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

Yes, I do understand that some of you pro-autism fanatics do not want the cause to be exposed, either. Tough, too late now.

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Originally posted by DEVERSE:
Having an intelligent discussion with an anti-vaxxer is just not going to work.

They all believe in the Grand Unified Conspiracy Theory that the reptilian aliens from Niribu who crashed at Roswell and based out of Area 51 have taken over world governments so they could fake the moon landings to hide the secret Nazi bases that have been taken over by the cabal of the Illuminati, Skull and Bones, the Freemansons, the Bilderbergers and the 9 Angels who are working towards a New World Order by killing off the world's population using fluoridation, vaccination, GMOs, ebola, and the Codex Alimentarius so they can support big pharma who raise the funds for chem trails and subliminal messages in advertisements that will keep the population complacent until they can get cold fusion power to fully run HAARP and other weather manipulation machines in Russia and China that cause Global Warming and that made them kill JFK and Princess Diana because they knew too much and didn't cooperate so when the bad weather gets people to turn to FEMA for help they will be herded into death camps and killed by the AIDS virus that was developed by the CIA.

They know this because they have gained the knowledge from the most fact filled and substantiated source of scientific information known to mankind, some guys website on the interwebs.

Now, with all this irrefutable, factual, scientific proof; how can anyone possibly convince an anti-vaxxer to see anything different, especially when using something experts in the field have published as a source for their debate?
You lost before you started.



Oh let the sun beat down upon my face;
With stars to fill my dream;
I am a traveler of both time and space;
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fwiw

There's a very high incidence of autism in families I work with.

One couple, China born and raised, had their first child (son) shortly after coming to the US who's deeply autistic. Another couple, mother Mexico born and raised, living in the US from adulthood, father US born and raised, second child (son) with Asperger's. Third couple, born and raised in Ethiopia, in the US for under 10 years, first child (daughter) deeply autistic.

It's pretty obviously not a fat-stored persistent chemical since the parents had their infancy through adulthood in vastly different places exposed to vastly different chemicals. For a while I was leaning towards 'neo-nics' (insecticides neo-nicotinoid whose use rises a couple of years ahead of Asperger's, with the Asperger's curve following the neo-nic curve almost exactly). But then it could be the mothers' eating food containing supposedly safe food-grade emulsifiers (surfactants) that have recently been linked to gut destruction and auto-immune disease.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I tried a search for the threads discussing or disputing Cencored Films or Books, but could not find what I was looking for. So here I put it in the title.

This time the talk is of Vaxxed. Banned from recent film festivals, including the Tribeca by Censor Robert DeNiro. He didn't want the truth to be exposed to the light of day, or his Film Festival.
Seems to be a documentary about scientifically proven facts, not the Michael Moore type fake-umentary jibberish. Plus the coverup and denials of the Libtards and other government-control-is-best freaks.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5562652/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

Yes, I do understand that some of you pro-autism fanatics do not want the cause to be exposed, either. Tough, too late now.

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Vaxxed is a piece of shit movie by a piece of shit director. Good for DeNiro recognizing that fact and pulling it from the Tribeca Film Festival.

Any comments!?


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Originally posted by DEVERSE:
Having an intelligent discussion with an anti-vaxxer is just not going to work.

They all believe in the Grand Unified Conspiracy Theory that the reptilian aliens from Niribu who crashed at Roswell and based out of Area 51 have taken over world governments so they could fake the moon landings to hide the secret Nazi bases that have been taken over by the cabal of the Illuminati, Skull and Bones, the Freemansons, the Bilderbergers and the 9 Angels who are working towards a New World Order by killing off the world's population using fluoridation, vaccination, GMOs, ebola, and the Codex Alimentarius so they can support big pharma who raise the funds for chem trails and subliminal messages in advertisements that will keep the population complacent until they can get cold fusion power to fully run HAARP and other weather manipulation machines in Russia and China that cause Global Warming and that made them kill JFK and Princess Diana because they knew too much and didn't cooperate so when the bad weather gets people to turn to FEMA for help they will be herded into death camps and killed by the AIDS virus that was developed by the CIA.

They know this because they have gained the knowledge from the most fact filled and substantiated source of scientific information known to mankind, some guys website on the interwebs.

Now, with all this irrefutable, factual, scientific proof; how can anyone possibly convince an anti-vaxxer to see anything different, especially when using something experts in the field have published as a source for their debate?
You lost before you started.



Oh let the sun beat down upon my face;
With stars to fill my dream;
I am a traveler of both time and space;
To be where I have been

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
This should probably be in the Predictions thread.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I tried a search for the threads discussing or disputing Cencored Films or Books, but could not find what I was looking for. So here I put it in the title.

This time the talk is of Vaxxed. Banned from recent film festivals, including the Tribeca by Censor Robert DeNiro. He didn't want the truth to be exposed to the light of day, or his Film Festival.
Seems to be a documentary about scientifically proven facts, not the Michael Moore type fake-umentary jibberish. Plus the coverup and denials of the Libtards and other government-control-is-best freaks.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5562652/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

Yes, I do understand that some of you pro-autism fanatics do not want the cause to be exposed, either. Tough, too late now.

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Vaxxed is a piece of shit movie by a piece of shit director. Good for DeNiro recognizing that fact and pulling it from the Tribeca Film Festival.

Any comments!?


SGG

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This post generated 18 minutes after your post in this thread:

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=36&tid=60483

which is not in RWED.
And 3 minutes before this thread:

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60488

in the RWED forum.

Chill out, man.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I tried a search for the threads discussing or disputing Cencored Films or Books, but could not find what I was looking for. So here I put it in the title.

This time the talk is of Vaxxed. Banned from recent film festivals, including the Tribeca by Censor Robert DeNiro. He didn't want the truth to be exposed to the light of day, or his Film Festival.
Seems to be a documentary about scientifically proven facts, not the Michael Moore type fake-umentary jibberish. Plus the coverup and denials of the Libtards and other government-control-is-best freaks.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5562652/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

Yes, I do understand that some of you pro-autism fanatics do not want the cause to be exposed, either. Tough, too late now.

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Vaxxed is a piece of shit movie by a piece of shit director. Good for DeNiro recognizing that fact and pulling it from the Tribeca Film Festival.

Any comments!?


SGG

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This post generated 18 minutes after your post in this thread:

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=36&tid=60483

which is not in RWED.
And 3 minutes before this thread:

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60488

in the RWED forum.

Chill out, man.

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This time the talk is of Vaxxed. . . .

Yes, I do understand that some of you pro-autism fanatics do not want the cause to be exposed, either. Tough, too late now.

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Did you know that Andrew Wakefield directed Vaxxed?

Did you know that Andrew Wakefield published a study in The Lancet suggesting that vaccines caused autism?

Did you know that in 2010 Andrew Wakefield's vaccine study was retracted?

Did you know that Wakefield's medical license was revoked due to "ethical violations and a failure to disclose financial conflicts of interest" and for his invention of evidence linking the MMR vaccine to autism?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaxxed

Did you know that Vaxxed is not some sort of disinterested investigation into the 'vaccines cause autism' hoax, but is directed by the person who perpetuated the hoax?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by DEVERSE:
Having an intelligent discussion with an anti-vaxxer is just not going to work.

They all believe in the Grand Unified Conspiracy Theory that the reptilian aliens from Niribu who crashed at Roswell and based out of Area 51 have taken over world governments so they could fake the moon landings to hide the secret Nazi bases that have been taken over by the cabal of the Illuminati, Skull and Bones, the Freemansons, the Bilderbergers and the 9 Angels who are working towards a New World Order by killing off the world's population using fluoridation, vaccination, GMOs, ebola, and the Codex Alimentarius so they can support big pharma who raise the funds for chem trails and subliminal messages in advertisements that will keep the population complacent until they can get cold fusion power to fully run HAARP and other weather manipulation machines in Russia and China that cause Global Warming and that made them kill JFK and Princess Diana because they knew too much and didn't cooperate so when the bad weather gets people to turn to FEMA for help they will be herded into death camps and killed by the AIDS virus that was developed by the CIA.

They know this because they have gained the knowledge from the most fact filled and substantiated source of scientific information known to mankind, some guys website on the interwebs.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
You seem to have missed the fictional Holocaust, and the fantasy of spheroid Earth not being orbited by the Sun every day. Your claim that Oswald is not guilty is a bit obtuse, not worthy of your attempted discourse.

You have a comical post, but it seems you do not realize why.
Your post seems to have the same arguments as the Flat Earth subscribers, particularly when every rational and intellectual person on the planet knew Flat Earth was the fact. And the same arguments of those who knew that Area 51 or Broom Lake did not exist, poking fun at anybody who claimed that they did exist. Now that the government has admitted their existence, you have edited your history to remove that specific point.

So, which is it? Do you still claim Area 51 does not exist, even after admission? Do you think it was the testing facility for all Alien technologies derived from the UFO crash at Roswell?
And do we infer from your post that you firmly believe that Lee Harvey Oswald was the Lone Gunman who single-handedly shot JFK?
And you don't subscribe to the Global Warming religion?

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
You seem to have missed the fictional Holocaust, and the fantasy of spheroid Earth not being orbited by the Sun every day. Your claim that Oswald is not guilty is a bit obtuse, not worthy of your attempted discourse.

You have a comical post, but it seems you do not realize why.
Your post seems to have the same arguments as the Flat Earth subscribers, particularly when every rational and intellectual person on the planet knew Flat Earth was the fact. And the same arguments of those who knew that Area 51 or Broom Lake did not exist, poking fun at anybody who claimed that they did exist. Now that the government has admitted their existence, you have edited your history to remove that specific point.

So, which is it? Do you still claim Area 51 does not exist, even after admission? Do you think it was the testing facility for all Alien technologies derived from the UFO crash at Roswell?
And do we infer from your post that you firmly believe that Lee Harvey Oswald was the Lone Gunman who single-handedly shot JFK?
And you don't subscribe to the Global Warming religion?

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A hissy fit bordering on a full kitty conniption?

The delusional fantasy of your impotent indictments merely demonstrate how completely unarmed and vulnerable you are when engaged in a battle of wit or intellectual exchange.

As one who thinks there is some segment of society that is pro-autism; who uses words like "libtard" (probably because you think it shows how political savvy and oh so hipster you are); who hates government, but has a life of such ease and privilege they are too lazy and stupid to do anything about it except whine, bitch and moan (which makes me want to ask, are you a seagull? Cause if they aren't eating they're squawking, and if not eating or squawking, they're shitting, and you seem to fall into that category); who doesn't have the intellectual capacity to comprehend the difference between rejection and censorship; it was obvious you could not possibly come back with a reply that was even remotely logical or slightly entertaining as much as I had hoped.

Please, take another 7 days to mentally seethe and try and formulate some scathingly witty reply or rebuke; this last one was embarrassingly and woefully inadequate (a rating I would think every sexual partner you have ever had has graded you at). Take your time and try real hard OK?

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
You seem to have missed the fictional Holocaust, and the fantasy of spheroid Earth not being orbited by the Sun every day. Your claim that Oswald is not guilty is a bit obtuse, not worthy of your attempted discourse.

You have a comical post, but it seems you do not realize why.
Your post seems to have the same arguments as the Flat Earth subscribers, particularly when every rational and intellectual person on the planet knew Flat Earth was the fact. And the same arguments of those who knew that Area 51 or Broom Lake did not exist, poking fun at anybody who claimed that they did exist. Now that the government has admitted their existence, you have edited your history to remove that specific point.

So, which is it? Do you still claim Area 51 does not exist, even after admission? Do you think it was the testing facility for all Alien technologies derived from the UFO crash at Roswell?
And do we infer from your post that you firmly believe that Lee Harvey Oswald was the Lone Gunman who single-handedly shot JFK?
And you don't subscribe to the Global Warming religion?

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This is all you got?

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