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Tell me why won't he denounce the KKK and White Supremacists movement?


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Originally posted by G:

Also too bad that the answer to "if not Trump, then who?" is not a happy one.

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:

Tell me why won't he denounce the KKK and White Supremacists movement?


SGG

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Originally posted by G:

That's nothing new for any politician.

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Yep, his real last name is Drumpf!

Tell me why won't he denounce the KKK and White Supremacists movement?


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Yep, his real last name is Drumpf!

Tell me why won't he denounce the KKK and White Supremacists movement?


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HE DID DENOUNCE THEM!! HOW MANY TIMES DOES HE HAVE TO DENOUNCE THEM!! HOW COME CLINTON AND SANDERS DON'T HAVE TO DENOUNCE AL SHARPTON!!

I bet you have small hands...and penis.

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Second - can you tell me who the artist is? Fantastic! Reminds me of Mort Drucker from Cracked.

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That's nothing new for any politician.

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Obviously, but there is more: For his less savory supporters, there's no video of Trump clearly and unequivocally condemning the KKK and they understand perfectly well what this means. They're old hands at the wink and the nod.

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I did not see it but I understand that last night's republican debate set an even lower mark. I can't tell you how much joy I'm finding from this public implosion. It's also a treat to listen to them be completely clueless and miss why it's not working - like they are trying everything but the one thing they need to do, "it's right there, I'm pointing right at it." The sound of so many desperate Republicans, "let's get Romney! He'll save us!" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! I have to gasp for air.

But after I stop laughing I'm left with the fact that Trump will be one election away from the White House. And you know what? As much as I'm pretty sure it would be an even bigger train wreck, I'm at peace with that thought. Sometimes you have to throw up before you can get better. Sometimes you have to go so far off center before you get some sense and pull back. It's an imperfect democracy - which to me means whoever we get, we deserve. Even Trump. Maybe even especially Trump.

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When I saw Romney approach the podium, I literally cringed and then burst out laughing my ass off. The GOP is imploding and they bring out the Big Guns, Mittens to the rescue! The CEO of Implosions with his milk toast approach, meekly warning the extreme right that HE thinks The Donald is totally wrong for the position.

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When I saw Romney approach the podium, I literally cringed and then burst out laughing my ass off. The GOP is imploding and they bring out the Big Guns, Mittens to the rescue! The CEO of Implosions with his milk toast approach, meekly warning the extreme right that HE thinks The Donald is totally wrong for the position.

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Donald Trump is a walking political science lesson: Most voters do not listen through their ears. They listen through their stomachs. If a leader can connect with them on a gut level, their response is: “Don’t bother me with the details. I trust your instincts.”

Trump’s rivals keep thinking that if they just point out a few more details about him, voters will drop The Donald and turn to one of them instead. But you can’t talk voters out of something that they haven’t been talked into.

Many have come to Trump out of a gut feeling that this is a guy who knows their pain, even if he doesn’t. Many of his supporters are from the #middleagewhitemales-matter movement, for whom the current age of acceleration has not been kind and for whom Trump’s rallies are their way of sticking it to the people who left them behind, particularly Republican elites. They are not interested in Trump’s details. They like his gut.

And no wonder. Those Republican elites sold their own souls and their party so many times to charlatans and plutocrats that you wonder when it’s going to show up on eBay: “For sale: The GOP soul. Almost empty.”

Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz declared that they would support the party’s nominee, even if it was Trump, right after telling voters he was a con man. No wonder so many Republicans are voting for Trump on the basis of what they think is in his guts. All the other Republican candidates have none.

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I asked him, how did he do that? He didn't know that either. This is representative of his followers.

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Hopefully it's all bluster for the crowd, which is even sadder to think about (that that's what they want to hear).

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Hopefully it's all bluster for the crowd, which is even sadder to think about (that that's what they want to hear).

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You would think, if you were a Democrat, that to have a strong opinion you should know something about what you have an opinion on. But Republicans voters don't think like that, can't think like that. It is why they're what they are even when not voting. I've got a really low opinion of their ability to solve problems that are not completely routine when there is any Texas Republican voters involved, even when the problems have absolutely nothing to do with politics. Maybe in other states Republicans aren't so . . . whatever you call their mental problems.

Back in the real world, before the second Iraq War, there was plenty of info that showed this war would not go as well as the first Iraq War.
www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2002/11/the-fifty-first-state/302
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And after the second Iraq War was over, there was plenty to be learned from the fighting. But did any Republicans learn? I'm talking about voters, not Republican politicians. They have amnesia. They remember nothing about what truly happened, learned nothing. All they have are heroic myths and misunderstandings. That is why their optimism for more war is unbounded. They really don't know they are incompetent.
www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/09/the-surge-fallacy/399344/

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As Trump says, “we have rebuilt China and yet our country is falling apart. Our infrastructure is falling apart … Our airports are, like, Third World.”

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Tom Lewandowski, the president of the Northeast Indiana Central Labor Council in Fort Wayne, puts it even more bluntly when I asked him about working-class Trump fans. “These people aren’t racist, not any more than anybody else is,” he says of Trump supporters he knows. “When Trump talks about trade, we think about the Clinton administration, first with Nafta and then with {Permanent Normal Trade Relations} China, and here in Northeast Indiana, we hemorrhaged jobs.”

“They look at that, and here’s Trump talking about trade, in a ham-handed way, but at least he’s representing emotionally. We’ve had all the political establishment standing behind every trade deal, and we endorsed some of these people, and then we’ve had to fight them to get them to represent us.”

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The Chinese are NOT stopping the USA from rebuilding airports and water pipes to homes. The USA simply does not want to pay Trump’s working-class supporters to rebuild. So the work does not get done and Trump supporters don’t get paid. Trump won’t change that because Americans still don’t want to pay to rebuild their airports, no matter who is President.

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That's not quite true.

Americans don't want to pay to rebuild their airports AND support a war-time economy which sucks up half of the Federal budget AND keep our oligarchs happy and well-fed in their profiteering. (Yanno, if you think about it, between the war economy and the financialized profits, probably half of our economy gets sucked into the void.)

Unfortunately, Americans have been trained into knee-jerk support of every pointless war that we've ever waged, and into adoration of every super-wealthy leech. So as far as making that choice ... between replacing the lead pipes in Flint and every other lead-pipe city in the USA - and building a crap-ton of F-35s that we don't need ... well, they never get around to choosing.

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The USA Gross National Product is 18,263.8 Billions of Dollars. A great deal could be done with that. Every year. https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/GNP

The omnibus appropriations deal reached by congressional leaders late Tuesday night will provide $573 billion for defense operations in fiscal 2016, another $163 billion for Department of Veterans Affairs programs and about nine months of budget stability for federal agencies that have faced various looming shutdown threats since September.
www.militarytimes.com/story/military/2015/12/16/budget-omnibus-fy16-de
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The black ops budget is $66.8 billion.
http://fas.org/irp/budget/

. . . the data in the chart above represents only a fraction of the full costs of maintaining the nuclear deterrent. Other studies estimate that those costs may total $50 billion or more per year. [2] Additionally, this fact sheet includes only definable costs, and does not include many of the support costs associated with command, control, communications, and intelligence; missile defense; environmental management; decommissioning costs; and other support missions that cannot be explained without their link to nuclear deterrence. Combined, these are estimated to account for tens of billions of dollars more per year. [3]
www.nti.org/analysis/articles/us-nuclear-weapons-budget-overview/

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Trump University spelled hope in 2008 for George Hanus of Fremont, whose startup information technology business was crumbling under the weight of the sinking economy.

In his late 40s, Hanus felt adrift and needed a plan. That’s when he heard a radio ad announcing that experts handpicked by Donald Trump were coming to Oakland to teach the billionaire real-estate magnate’s best trade secrets.

“I was very excited,” said Hanus, 56, recalling the visions of prosperity that danced through his head. He’d been dazzled by Trump’s speech a year earlier at Moscone Center in San Francisco, and now there was a chance to emulate the master. “I wanted to learn more.”

But instead of making money in real estate, Hanus said, he drained his retirement savings of $13,000 at the urging of Trump University representatives and took a tax hit of nearly $5,000. What’s more, he said, the mentors who were supposed to guide students through the early stages of their new career wouldn’t return his calls.

“I expected to make enough to pay back my IRA and to make a better living,” Hanus recalled. “But I made zero. I felt deceived and rotten about the whole thing. My girlfriend still wants to kill me.”

Hanus isn’t alone.

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Apple CEO Tim Cook, Google co-founder Larry Page, Napster creator and Facebook investor Sean Parker, and Tesla Motors and SpaceX honcho Elon Musk all attended. So did Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), political guru Karl Rove, House Speaker Paul Ryan, GOP Sens. Tom Cotton (Ark.), Cory Gardner (Colo.), Tim Scott (S.C.), Rob Portman (Ohio) and Ben Sasse (Neb.), who recently made news by saying he "cannot support Donald Trump."

Along with Ryan, the House was represented by Energy and Commerce Committee Chair Fred Upton (Mich.), Rep. Kevin Brady (Texas) and almost-Speaker Kevin McCarthy (Calif.), sources said, along with leadership figure Cathy McMorris Rodgers (Wash.), Budget Committee Chairman Tom Price (R-Ga.), Financial Services Committee Chairman Jeb Hensarling (Texas) and Diane Black (Tenn.).

Philip Anschutz, the billionaire GOP donor whose company owns a stake in Sea Island, was also there, along with Democratic Rep. John Delaney, who represents Maryland. Arthur Sulzberger, the publisher of The New York Times, was there, too, a Times spokeswoman confirmed.

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Ilya Sheyman, a failed Illinois contender for Congress and the executive director of MoveOn.org Political Action, has taken credit for the violence at a cancelled Trump event last night in Chicago.
He promised similar violence and disruption will occur at future Trump political events leading up to the election.

“Mr. Trump and the Republican leaders who support him and his hate-filled rhetoric should be on notice after tonight’s events,” on the George Soros funded MoveOn web page. “To all of those who took to the streets of Chicago, we say thank you for standing up and saying enough is enough. To Donald Trump, and the GOP, we say, welcome to the general election.”

The violent demonstration in Chicago on Friday may represent a precursor to the sort of activity the organization will engage in as it tries to “shut down” its political enemies and elect either Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders.

On Friday night many of the protesters shouted “Bernie!” and held placards announcing their support for the socialist Democrat.

The group [Moveon - SIGNY] acts as a front for wealthy Democrats. It was founded with the help of the financier George Soros who donated $1.46 million to get the organization rolling. Linda Pritzker of the Hyatt hotel family gave the group a $4 million donation.

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Who is revolting against who?

In your description of the roving internationalists, I'm not seeing anything that distinguished Trump from any other internationalist- Jamie Dimon (JPM Chase), Lloyd Blankfein (Goldman Sachs), George Soros, Elon Musk, Christine LaGarde (IMF)- or any other number of the ultrawealthy who've made their billions in the tradespace between nations.

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