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Saturday, February 13, 2016 5:32 PM

ELVISCHRIST

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Saturday, February 13, 2016 5:48 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.







SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Saturday, February 13, 2016 6:34 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Wow dude...

Evil much?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, February 13, 2016 7:25 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Holy shit!

Dead witch = too funny!

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Sunday, February 14, 2016 7:01 AM

ELVISCHRIST

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Sunday, February 14, 2016 9:13 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by ElvisChrist:


http://m.mysanantonio.com/news/us-world/article/Senior-Associate-Justi
ce-Antonin-Scalia-found-6828930.php?cmpid=fb-desktop



Good news for the forces of good!




Absolutely deplorable and worthless thread. No better than militant jihadist who cheer for the deaths of innocent lives. Gutter scum of humanity on display.

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Sunday, February 14, 2016 10:25 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Aw c'mon RAPPY, that picture of the wicked witch under the house was just too funny!

Scalia was just ... weird. His rulings stretched and snapped the boundaries of the Constitution, which he was presumably hired to protect. Some of Scalia's strangest comments, compiled in 2012, so this is no post-morten backstabbing

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During a question and answer session with students at Princeton University, a freshman confronted Scalia about his tendency to equate homosexuality bans and laws against murder and bestiality in his legal writings. “It’s a form of argument that I thought you would have known, which is called the ‘reduction to the absurd,’” the Supreme Court Justice snapped at the student.
So, Scalia liked to argue the absurd, and then use the absurd to justify his positions. Yeah, we got that.

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When President Obama passed the DREAM Act, allowing young immigrants to obtain legal citizenship, Arizona created its own immigration law, contradicting some of the newly minted federal mandates. The state law was struck down by the Supreme Court—a decision with which Scalia did not agree, going so far as to suggest that the state should secede. “If securing its territory in this fashion is not within the power of Arizona, we should cease referring to it as a sovereign State,” he wrote. But he also used 19th-century restrictions on freed slaves as backup for his decision, saying that, back in the day, “State laws not only provided for the removal of unwanted immigrants but also imposed penalties on unlawfully present aliens and those who aided their immigration.”
Protecting the boundaries of the USA is clearly a Federal mandate, and the law reference by Scalia was a limited law written for an obsolete purpose.

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When discussing the pollutants in the environment, Scalia mistakenly referred to the troposphere as the stratosphere and was corrected by the plaintiff’s representation. Snapping back, he made clear his views on the matter: “Troposphere, whatever. I told you before I’m not a scientist. That’s why I don’t want to have to deal with global warming, to tell you the truth.”
Not a scientist. Not too knowledgeable about the real world. Yup, we got that too.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/10/06/8-of-supreme-court-ju
stice-antonin-scalia-s-wildest-comments.html


Scalia was a strict Constitutionalist- EXCEPT WHEN HE WASN'T. He would take ONE train of thought and extend it to the absurd.

Another Justice who would do us all a favor by keeling over is Thomas, Scalia's "me too" vote. He's so stupid, he has never asked a question from the bench since 2006, but prefers to hide his deficiency with an air of inscrutability. He doesn't deserve to be on the bench, simply because of his lack of intellect.

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Sunday, February 14, 2016 10:51 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Scalia was a real human person, who has a family and life long friends who loved him, as much as anyone here has.

2 cents worth of decency and humanity apparently is too much to expect from the degenerates who call RWED their home. Sad to say.



And Justice Thomas has more intellect in his little toe than half the idiots here combined.

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Sunday, February 14, 2016 11:24 AM

WHOZIT


I hope the Republicans in the Senate have the balls to hold up Barry's next hack. They're saying that the next Prez should make the pick, I hope the Republicans in the Senate drive Barry and the Dems bat shit crazy. But they may cave, BUT the anarchist in me hopes the hold their own.

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Sunday, February 14, 2016 11:38 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Scalia was found dead in front of an open refrigerator at the Cibolo Creek Ranch in West Texas. Possible cause of death was choking on a fried chicken leg, which is politely known in Texas as “natural causes”.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, February 14, 2016 12:38 PM

ELVISCHRIST


Quote:

Originally posted by AURAPTOR:
Scalia was a real human person, who has a family and life long friends who loved him, as much as anyone here has.

2 cents worth of decency and humanity apparently is too much to expect from the degenerates who call RWED their home. Sad to say.




Like the decency and humanity you showed for Osama when he was killed by the U.S.? He had a family who loved him, too.

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And Justice Thomas has more intellect in his little toe than half the idiots here combined.




Well, more than the conservative troll half of the idiots here, anyway. (Lookin' at you, moron, in case you're not smart enough to figure that out, and I know that you're not.)


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Sunday, February 14, 2016 12:39 PM

ELVISCHRIST


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Scalia was found dead in front of an open refrigerator at the Cibolo Creek Ranch in West Texas. Possible cause of death was choking on a fried chicken leg, which is politely known in Texas as “natural causes”.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




Known in much of the old south as "Elvis Presley's Disease."

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Sunday, February 14, 2016 12:40 PM

ELVISCHRIST


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
I hope the Republicans in the Senate have the balls to hold up Barry's next hack. They're saying that the next Prez should make the pick, I hope the Republicans in the Senate drive Barry and the Dems bat shit crazy. But they may cave, BUT the anarchist in me hopes the hold their own.



I hope they do, too. It will give Bernie a chance to appoint Obama to the bench!

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Sunday, February 14, 2016 1:58 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by AURAPTOR:
Quote:

Originally posted by ElvisChrist:


http://m.mysanantonio.com/news/us-world/article/Senior-Associate-Justi
ce-Antonin-Scalia-found-6828930.php?cmpid=fb-desktop



Good news for the forces of good!




Absolutely deplorable and worthless thread. No better than militant jihadist who cheer for the deaths of innocent lives. Gutter scum of humanity on display.



I didn't like the mans perspectives myself but I agree with you rappy, some of this is in very poor taste.

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Sunday, February 14, 2016 2:01 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Scalia was found dead in front of an open refrigerator at the Cibolo Creek Ranch in West Texas. Possible cause of death was choking on a fried chicken leg, which is politely known in Texas as “natural causes”.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



They shipped him directly to a funeral home. What no autopsy?

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Sunday, February 14, 2016 2:05 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Originally posted by AURAPTOR:
Scalia was a real human person, who has a family

Yeah, nine kids. Sheesh! He's a one-man population explosion! Apparently a devout Catholic who likes sex and doesn't believe in birth control. I wonder if his wife knew what she signed on for when she married him.

Did you know that Hitler was a vegetarian?

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and life long friends who loved him, as much as anyone here has. 2 cents worth of decency and humanity apparently is too much to expect from the degenerates who call RWED their home. Sad to say.
You're not known for your respect for the dead. So ... really???

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And Justice Thomas has more intellect in his little toe than half the idiots here combined
Not a point I'd bring up, if I were you.

But, OKAY, OKAY, I promise to have a moment of silence in honor of Scalia BEFORE I burst out in hysterical laughter! (Which BTW I have not done, yet!)

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MOMENT OF SILENCE AS I CONSIDER THE LOSS TO SCALIA'S FAMILY, FRIENDS, AND POLITICAL ALLIES, AND CONTEMPLATE THE UNIVERSAL END WHICH ALL LIVING CREATURES REACH, AND THE TEMPORAL NATURE OF JUSTICE AND HOW WE ALL MIGHT ESCAPE THAT WHICH WE TRULY DESERVE, WHETHER GOOD OR ILL OR BOTH.

/moment
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By the way, I think you can spin this into a conspiracy theory that Obama "probably" had Scalia killed. This could turn into a problem for Republicans either way: Obama will nominate a replacement, and Republicans will look like obstructionist ideologues, willing to twist any procedure in order to get their way. So after all, cui bono? Hmmm.... that theory could have legs! After all, isn't political assassination what a Kenyan Muslim socialist would do?


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Sunday, February 14, 2016 2:52 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by ElvisChrist:
Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
I hope the Republicans in the Senate have the balls to hold up Barry's next hack. They're saying that the next Prez should make the pick, I hope the Republicans in the Senate drive Barry and the Dems bat shit crazy. But they may cave, BUT the anarchist in me hopes the hold their own.



I hope they do, too. It will give Bernie a chance to appoint Obama to the bench!



Jeez, the DNC won't let him get the nomination. You're stuck with Hillary weather you like it or not. How is it he won N.H. but Hillary got more delegates?

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Sunday, February 14, 2016 3:00 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by whozit:
How is it he won N.H. but Hillary got more delegates?

“Superdelegates”.

New Hampshire has 24 “pledged” delegates, which are allotted based on the popular vote. Sanders has 13, and Clinton has 9, with 2 currently allotted to neither.

But under Democratic National Committee rules, New Hampshire also has 8 “superdelegates,” party officials who are free to commit to whomever they like, regardless of how their state votes. Their votes count the same as delegates won through the primary. Scalia had complained that superdelegates are unconstitutional, knowing that a 74 year old Commie presidential candidate could have no chance against any Republican, even Trump.

New Hampshire has 8 superdelegates, 6 of which are committed to Hillary Clinton, giving her a total of 15 delegates from New Hampshire as of Wednesday at 9 a.m.

The state’s 2 remaining superdelegates remain uncommitted.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, February 14, 2016 3:20 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


The witch was a human, too, with family and people who cared about her. So was Idi Amin.

Get over yourself, Frances.


Originally posted by AURAPTOR:
Scalia was a real human person, who has a family and life long friends who loved him, as much as anyone here has.

2 cents worth of decency and humanity apparently is too much to expect from the degenerates who call RWED their home. Sad to say.

And Justice Thomas has more intellect in his little toe than half the idiots here combined.





SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Sunday, February 14, 2016 3:46 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by AURAPTOR:
Scalia was a real human person, who has a family and life long friends who loved him, as much as anyone here has.

2 cents worth of decency and humanity apparently is too much to expect from the degenerates who call RWED their home. Sad to say.

I can appreciate that Antonin Scalia was truly a great Supreme Court Justice.

Scalia had an acutely fine-tuned mind, always able to sense what was in the great minds of the writers of the Constitution.

Scalia could legally prove to his satisfaction that Unconstitutionality applied to anything that disadvantaged the Republican Party. On the other hand, Constitutionality applied to everything that was advantageous for Republicans. That was because Scalia had a very fine mind.

Scalia had documented the Founding Fathers arguing for what was best for the Republican party. And what was most wonderfully prescience, according to Scalia, was that the Founding Fathers did this a half century before there was a Republican Party.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, February 14, 2016 4:07 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Over the last few years, Scalia, not noted for impartiality or moderation, was reported to make increasingly absurd statements. And while he and his comments stayed under the radar for most of his tenure, his comments recently bubbled up into the news with increasing frequency.

I can imagine Scalia became increasingly useless to tptb, and so he was given less and less cover in the msm. (To give you an idea of the type of cover provided by the msm for tptb, Bush the Younger was reported years later to have asked for the head of bin Laden on dry ice, so he could look into bin Laden's eyes.)

Or, rather than being simply given less cover, Scalia may have been increasingly irrational, due to some type of advancing dementia. Losing the coordination between voluntary and involuntary muscles needed to swallow is a common symptom of neurodegeneration. Sadly, since he's deemed to have died of 'natural causes', no autopsy will be performed and we'll never know.

What I also find really, really weird - Scalia reportedly went to bed saying he wasn't feeling well. When he didn't show up the next morning, NO ONE WENT TO CHECK ON HIM. Nope, they decided to just go out hunting like they already planned. WTF?

Well, I guess he associated with a bunch of vipers.






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Sunday, February 14, 2016 6:08 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


You should have read his rant about the devil, four or five years ago. You mean, he got weirder after that?

Quote:

Q: Can we talk about your drafting process—
SALIA: [Leans in, stage-whispers.] I even believe in the Devil.

Q: You do?
SCALIA: Of course! Yeah, he’s a real person. Hey, c’mon, that’s standard Catholic doctrine! Every Catholic believes that.

Q: Every Catholic believes this? There’s a wide variety of Catholics out there …
SCALIA: If you are faithful to Catholic dogma, that is certainly a large part of it.

Q: Have you seen evidence of the Devil lately?
SCALIA: You know, it is curious. In the Gospels, the Devil is doing all sorts of things. He’s making pigs run off cliffs, he’s possessing people and whatnot. And that doesn’t happen very much anymore.

Q: No.
SCALIA: It’s because he’s smart.

Q: So what’s he doing now?
SCALIA: What he’s doing now is getting people not to believe in him or in God. He’s much more successful that way.

Q: That has really painful implications for atheists. Are you sure that’s the ­Devil’s work?
SCALIA: I didn’t say atheists are the Devil’s work.

Q: Well, you’re saying the Devil is ­persuading people to not believe in God. Couldn’t there be other reasons to not believe?
SCALIA: Well, there certainly can be other reasons. But it certainly favors the Devil’s desires. I mean, c’mon, that’s the explanation for why there’s not demonic possession all over the place. That always puzzled me. What happened to the Devil, you know? He used to be all over the place. He used to be all over the New Testament.

Q: Right.
SCALIA: What happened to him?

Q: He just got wilier.
SCALIA: He got wilier.


http://nymag.com/news/features/antonin-scalia-2013-10/index3.html

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Sunday, February 14, 2016 6:40 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


Ding - Dong! .....................Come on, everybody knows the words..............

Kind of low budget, but funny!


SGG


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Originally posted by 1kiki:





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Sunday, February 14, 2016 6:55 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


I don't think picking Thomas is such a good idea as a great man. Ruth Bader Ginsberg would have been a better pick.

Scalia was a man of some intellect and he is cared for by his family and friends, I dare say that he did not give you, or any of us for that matter, a second thought.

Lighten up, it was a joke (and a pretty funny one). It was borderline below the belt, but this is lightweight stuff compared to some of the shit I have seen about
some politicians and celebrities.

Okay, here's some class for ya - Scalia, may he RIP.

Happy Now!


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by AURAPTOR:
Scalia was a real human person, who has a family and life long friends who loved him, as much as anyone here has.

2 cents worth of decency and humanity apparently is too much to expect from the degenerates who call RWED their home. Sad to say.



And Justice Thomas has more intellect in his little toe than half the idiots here combined.


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Sunday, February 14, 2016 6:57 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


A sense of humor..............who knew!?


SGG


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Aw c'mon RAPPY, that picture of the wicked witch under the house was just too funny!

Scalia was just ... weird. His rulings stretched and snapped the boundaries of the Constitution, which he was presumably hired to protect. Some of Scalia's strangest comments, compiled in 2012, so this is no post-morten backstabbing

Quote:

During a question and answer session with students at Princeton University, a freshman confronted Scalia about his tendency to equate homosexuality bans and laws against murder and bestiality in his legal writings. “It’s a form of argument that I thought you would have known, which is called the ‘reduction to the absurd,’” the Supreme Court Justice snapped at the student.
So, Scalia liked to argue the absurd, and then use the absurd to justify his positions. Yeah, we got that.

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When President Obama passed the DREAM Act, allowing young immigrants to obtain legal citizenship, Arizona created its own immigration law, contradicting some of the newly minted federal mandates. The state law was struck down by the Supreme Court—a decision with which Scalia did not agree, going so far as to suggest that the state should secede. “If securing its territory in this fashion is not within the power of Arizona, we should cease referring to it as a sovereign State,” he wrote. But he also used 19th-century restrictions on freed slaves as backup for his decision, saying that, back in the day, “State laws not only provided for the removal of unwanted immigrants but also imposed penalties on unlawfully present aliens and those who aided their immigration.”
Protecting the boundaries of the USA is clearly a Federal mandate, and the law reference by Scalia was a limited law written for an obsolete purpose.

Quote:

When discussing the pollutants in the environment, Scalia mistakenly referred to the troposphere as the stratosphere and was corrected by the plaintiff’s representation. Snapping back, he made clear his views on the matter: “Troposphere, whatever. I told you before I’m not a scientist. That’s why I don’t want to have to deal with global warming, to tell you the truth.”
Not a scientist. Not too knowledgeable about the real world. Yup, we got that too.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/10/06/8-of-supreme-court-ju
stice-antonin-scalia-s-wildest-comments.html


Scalia was a strict Constitutionalist- EXCEPT WHEN HE WASN'T. He would take ONE train of thought and extend it to the absurd.

Another Justice who would do us all a favor by keeling over is Thomas, Scalia's "me too" vote. He's so stupid, he has never asked a question from the bench since 2006, but prefers to hide his deficiency with an air of inscrutability. He doesn't deserve to be on the bench, simply because of his lack of intellect.

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Sunday, February 14, 2016 7:09 PM

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Supreme Court nominees haven't been confirmed during election years since 1988 because none of them died or retired during an election year. A typical Antonin Scalia opinion would loftily declare it is an American tradition not to confirm Supreme Court justices during an election year. That's how exemplary Scalia’s keen legal mind worked.
Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
I hope the Republicans in the Senate have the balls to hold up Barry's next hack. They're saying that the next Prez should make the pick, I hope the Republicans in the Senate drive Barry and the Dems bat shit crazy. But they may cave, BUT the anarchist in me hopes the hold their own.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, February 14, 2016 8:34 PM

ELVISCHRIST


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Originally posted by second:
Supreme Court nominees haven't been confirmed during election years since 1988 because none of them died or retired during an election year. A typical Antonin Scalia opinion would loftily declare it is an American tradition not to confirm Supreme Court justices during an election year. That's how exemplary Scalia’s keen legal mind worked.
Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
I hope the Republicans in the Senate have the balls to hold up Barry's next hack. They're saying that the next Prez should make the pick, I hope the Republicans in the Senate drive Barry and the Dems bat shit crazy. But they may cave, BUT the anarchist in me hopes the hold their own.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




Republicans: they claim to be strict guardians of the constitution, yet now they are openly saying that they will refuse to do their constitutional duty, and they are demanding that the president do the same.

Fuck them. And fuck anybody stupid enough to support them in this foolish endeavor.

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Sunday, February 14, 2016 8:36 PM

ELVISCHRIST




How is Clarence Thomas going to function on the court now, without Scalia's hand constantly up his ass telling him what to say?

It will be a better day for America when that piece of shit eats his gun too.

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Monday, February 15, 2016 8:55 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by ElvisChrist:


How is Clarence Thomas going to function on the court now, without Scalia's hand constantly up his ass telling him what to say?

According to Scalia, Thomas is more willing than himself to overrule constitutional cases: "If a constitutional line of authority is wrong, he would say let's get it right. I wouldn't do that."

Scalia and Thomas agreed in full only 74% of the time and the frequency of agreement between the two is not as outstanding as is often implied by news stories aimed at lay audiences. Scalia and Thomas appear to agree where Scalia and Thomas voted for the same litigant, but they often do NOT agree on the reasoning.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_Thomas#Voting_alignment

Thomas's position on Congressional authority would invalidate much of the contemporary work of the federal government. According to Thomas, it is not the Court's job to update the Constitution. Proponents deny that they are trying to update the Constitution. Instead, they argue that they are addressing a set of economic facts that did not exist when the Constitution was framed.

To put it as bluntly as possible, Thomas wants to stop all future change until the Constitution is amended to cover the change. Scalia wanted to stop all change that disadvantaged the Republican Party.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, February 15, 2016 5:51 PM

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When asked about his most controversial decision, Scalia was famous for saying “Get over it!” Then he'd laugh in your face.

In a hypothetical case, call it Bush v Gore, Justice Thomas would not want to recount the ballots in Florida (hypothetical state) because voting machines were not mentioned in the Constitution, while Scalia would decide the case depending on which one, Bush or Gore, was Republican. All hypothetical, you know. The court case could have gone either way, but it just happened that Scalia and Thomas voted the same way. “Get over it!” said Scalia and he laughed.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2012/06/yes-bush-v-gore-did-steal
-the-election.html


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Wednesday, February 17, 2016 4:29 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Ahhhh, Elvis........ever the optimist!


SGG


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Originally posted by whozit:
I hope the Republicans in the Senate have the balls to hold up Barry's next hack. They're saying that the next Prez should make the pick, I hope the Republicans in the Senate drive Barry and the Dems bat shit crazy. But they may cave, BUT the anarchist in me hopes the hold their own.



I hope they do, too. It will give Bernie a chance to appoint Obama to the bench!


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Wednesday, February 17, 2016 4:46 AM

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Spoken like a true American Guardian of the Constitution, Elvis. The Constitution is clear on this matter, the president serves 4 years and must pick a candidate to serve on the Highest Court of the Land.....PERIOD!

Of course, the Republicans make their own rules (talk about lawless) and
insist that you either be white or Reagan as president (and in his case, the double whammy).

Reagan, in his second and final term in office, nominated a Supreme Court justice in an election year in 1988. So that argument can suck elephant balls (I nominate Ted Cruz). To suggest that Congress ignore their duty is Un-Constitutional. So please do it, you fucking morons, please challenge
the very document you claim to defend against tyranny. How ironic, the president can sue and take it to the Supreme Court and they must vote 8-0
that the president can select a new SCOTUS judge. FUCK, I'm good!!!

Scalia isn't even buried yet and these motherfuckers are gearing up to dishonor his memory by smearing the very document he swore to uphold.
Only in America.


SGG


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Originally posted by ElvisChrist:
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Supreme Court nominees haven't been confirmed during election years since 1988 because none of them died or retired during an election year. A typical Antonin Scalia opinion would loftily declare it is an American tradition not to confirm Supreme Court justices during an election year. That's how exemplary Scalia’s keen legal mind worked.
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I hope the Republicans in the Senate have the balls to hold up Barry's next hack. They're saying that the next Prez should make the pick, I hope the Republicans in the Senate drive Barry and the Dems bat shit crazy. But they may cave, BUT the anarchist in me hopes the hold their own.

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Republicans: they claim to be strict guardians of the constitution, yet now they are openly saying that they will refuse to do their constitutional duty, and they are demanding that the president do the same.

Fuck them. And fuck anybody stupid enough to support them in this foolish endeavor.


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Wednesday, February 17, 2016 4:54 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Scalia was a brilliant legal mind, but arrogant.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
When asked about his most controversial decision, Scalia was famous for saying “Get over it!” Then he'd laugh in your face.

In a hypothetical case, call it Bush v Gore, Justice Thomas would not want to recount the ballots in Florida (hypothetical state) because voting machines were not mentioned in the Constitution, while Scalia would decide the case depending on which one, Bush or Gore, was Republican. All hypothetical, you know. The court case could have gone either way, but it just happened that Scalia and Thomas voted the same way. “Get over it!” said Scalia and he laughed.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2012/06/yes-bush-v-gore-did-steal
-the-election.html


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Wednesday, February 17, 2016 10:48 AM

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Scalia was a brilliant legal mind, but arrogant.

The most outspoken judge in the history of the Supreme Court.

Scalia's death and lack of an autopsy is very odd for Texas. My 2 year old nephew died in a Houston hospital from meningitis and it was treated like a murder, with an autopsy. Maybe Scalia just choked from his gluttony. Or maybe the fried chicken Scalia ate in his room before he died was poisoned by the Mexican staff that run the ranch. Plenty of illegals wanted to see Scalia dead. Loudmouth Scalia made himself their enemy.
www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-scalia-conspiracy-20160217-story.html

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Scalia’s Legacy: Introducing Trash Talking into the Opinions of the Supreme Court

Sanford Levinson, Professor of Law | Feb. 15, 2016

https://news.utexas.edu/2016/02/15/scalia-s-legacy-introducing-trash-t
alking-into-opinions


Much can, and undoubtedly will, be said about the legacy of Justice Antonin Scalia. He is being called a “giant” of the Supreme Court. His dogmatic insistence on so-called originalism as the one true way to interpret the Constitution has shaped much discussion of the Constitution. He proudly proclaimed that, unlike proponents of a “living Constitution,” he viewed the Constitution as “dead” and basically mummified in the late 18th century.

A paradoxical aspect of his legacy, though, is that he seemed to care relatively little about actually persuading his colleagues on the high court, or, just as importantly, entering into necessary compromises designed to elicit their agreement. He fundamentally rewrote the job description of “Supreme Court Justice” by directing a great deal of his attention outside the court. He engaged in indefatigable public campaigning to build support for his view of the law.

He recognized the important role that social movements play in what might be called “constitutional politics.” For example, Scalia and his Supreme Court adversary, Justice Stephen Breyer, met in a public debate at Texas Tech University before some 5,000 people in 2010. Supreme Court justices like to think in terms of precedent, and that joint appearance and vigorous debate before a mass audience about constitutional fundamentals was truly unprecedented.

One of Scalia’s most important techniques in building popular support was the willingness to use his considerable rhetorical skills not only to offer vivid descriptions of his own positions, but also to denigrate those of his opponents. In fact, in many ways Scalia adopted the role of the predominant “trash talker” on the Supreme Court. Many of his opinions are altogether similar to the slash-and-burn rhetoric that we associate during this campaign season with Donald Trump.

Scalia commented, altogether accurately, that he and his colleagues “are not in agreement on the basic question of what we think we’re doing when we interpret the Constitution.” When I teach constitutional law, as I have for almost 40 years, I try to emphasize that reasonable people can disagree. Men and women of undoubted good faith can come up with strikingly different answers to constitutional conundrums, and we have to learn to live with this sometimes discomforting reality.

That was not Scalia’s way, however. He really didn’t believe that reasonable people could disagree about constitutional meaning. There was only one proper approach, the ostensible fidelity to the purported original understanding of the Constitution; rejection of that approach was the equivalent of heresy.

This use of vituperation was on full display in what will now count as his last major dissent, in the Obergefell case that gave constitutional protection to same-sex marriage. One need not necessarily believe that the court made the correct decision (although I do). One might still bewail the language of sarcasm and insult that ran through his angry dissent. Consider his reference to the majority opinion as a “Putsch.” For any well-educated adult, the one-and-only example of a “Putsch” is Adolf Hitler’s “Beer Hall Putsch” of 1923, an important episode in the rise of Nazism. And Scalia immediately went on to say that his colleagues had failed their most elemental task, which was to “function as judges.”

This is vivid — and highly quotable — language, as is the case with much of what Donald Trump says. Like Trump, Scalia treated those who disagreed with him as fools or scoundrels. Law professors who adopted Scalia’s approach of vituperation and insult directed toward those judges whose decisions they disagree with would properly be subject to chastisement. Our task, with very few exceptions, is to note how men and women of good faith can in fact arrive at strikingly different conclusions. To be sure, we must choose our own favorites — and explain why we agree with them — but that does not require simple dismissal of those on the other side as stupid or venal.

Scalia, as befits someone with more than three decades of service on the high court, leaves multiple legacies. But the coarsening of our public dialogue with regard to constitutional debate stands out. Whatever the proper venue for trash talk might be, its entrance into the opinions of the Supreme Court is something we should all regret.

Levinson is the W. St. John Garwood and W St. John Garwood, Jr. Centennial Chair in Law at the School of Law at the University of Texas at Austin.

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Sunday, February 21, 2016 1:20 AM

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America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Scalia was a brilliant legal mind, but arrogant.


SGG



There's a difference between arrogance and confidence.

Scalia was the latter. He knew of what he spoke.

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Sunday, February 21, 2016 10:19 AM

REAVERFAN


He's burning in hell, where he belongs.

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Sunday, February 21, 2016 12:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

There's a difference between arrogance and confidence.

Scalia was the latter. He knew of what he spoke.

One might bewail the language of sarcasm and insult that ran through Scalia's last major dissent. Consider his reference to the majority opinion as a “Putsch.” For any well-educated adult, the one-and-only example of a “Putsch” is Adolf Hitler’s “Beer Hall Putsch” of 1923, an important episode in the rise of Nazism. And Scalia immediately went on to say that his colleagues had failed their most elemental task, which was to “function as judges.”

This is vivid — and highly quotable — language, as is the case with much of what Donald Trump says. Like Trump, Scalia treated those who disagreed with him as fools or scoundrels.

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Saturday, February 27, 2016 3:50 PM

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There's a difference between arrogance and confidence.

Scalia was the latter. He knew of what he spoke.

Scalia's Death Prompts Dow to Settle Suits and pay $835 Million

“Growing political uncertainties due to recent events with the Supreme Court and increased likelihood for unfavorable outcomes for business involved in class-action suits have changed Dow’s risk assessment of the situation,” the company said in an e-mailed statement.

Dow was convicted with four other chemical makers of having fixed urethane prices and appealed the case to the Supreme Court. But without Scalia, the conviction stands.

Scalia’s death is likely to make it harder for companies to get the five votes they need to overturn awards or get new restrictions on class actions. He had been a key voice for companies in challenging group suits at the Supreme Court.

Scalia wrote the 5-4 ruling in 2011 that said Wal-Mart Stores Inc. couldn’t be sued by potentially a million female workers. Two years later, Scalia was the author of a 5-4 ruling that freed Comcast Corp. from having to defend against an $875 million antitrust lawsuit on behalf of Philadelphia-area customers.

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-02-26/dow-cites-scalia-s-death-in
-settling-urethanes-case-for-835m


Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia was worth billions of dollars every year to corporate America. Getting a new Scalia would be worth many billions over that new justice's lifetime on the court, which is why the Republicans are fighting so stubbornly. It's a fight about an enormous sum of money.

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Sunday, February 28, 2016 4:22 PM

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Celebrate the death of evil, for the world became a better place the day Scalia was snuffed.

Gotta watch out for those secret societies. Hanging out a Bohemian Grove doesn't always end well.

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Monday, February 29, 2016 2:39 AM

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Celebrate the death of evil, for the world became a better place the day Scalia was snuffed.

You are mistaken about Scalia being evil. He was a simple glutton for the adulation he received from the rich and powerful for deciding in their favor. They rewarded piggy Scalia with food.

The wiki article on Originalism connects Scalia to the intellectual nonsense that is Originalism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Originalism#Originalism_and_strict_const
ructionism


Scalia was only bad (but not in his own eyes) because he lied about his motives for being an Originalist. There is a bible verse that says it is perfectly right to mislead your enemies, so Scalia’s conscience was clear about writing opinions on the “original” meaning of the Constitution.
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Originally posted by ElvisChrist:

Gotta watch out for those secret societies. Hanging out a Bohemian Grove doesn't always end well.

It is not accidental that the Constitution’s "original" meaning always ended with Scalia receiving free food and invitations to resorts. Scalia would still be alive if weren’t for the excesses of food and booze ruining his health. He was controlled by his gut, not his brain.

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Thursday, March 3, 2016 3:57 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Exactly, a pompous arrogant windbag, who happened to be a powerful
Supreme Court Judge. This is the same court that brought us "corporations
are individuals" - that's the "brilliant" minds we are working with.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

There's a difference between arrogance and confidence.

Scalia was the latter. He knew of what he spoke.

One might bewail the language of sarcasm and insult that ran through Scalia's last major dissent. Consider his reference to the majority opinion as a “Putsch.” For any well-educated adult, the one-and-only example of a “Putsch” is Adolf Hitler’s “Beer Hall Putsch” of 1923, an important episode in the rise of Nazism. And Scalia immediately went on to say that his colleagues had failed their most elemental task, which was to “function as judges.”

This is vivid — and highly quotable — language, as is the case with much of what Donald Trump says. Like Trump, Scalia treated those who disagreed with him as fools or scoundrels.


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To Honor Scalia

http://angrybearblog.com/2016/03/to-honor-scalia.html

I’ve been thinking about the unfortunate circumstances surrounding the death of Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia. Apparently, he died while on a free, all-expenses paid trip to a very exclusive resort. The trip was paid for by an undisclosed benefactor and the identity of Scalia’s companions on the trip are also unknown to the public. News stories from the past few weeks indicate that Mr. Scalia had a long history of accepting such gifts, as do some (all?) of his colleagues on the Supreme Court.

By unhappy coincidence, it turns out that a public servant receiving gratuities from and engaging in surreptitious conversations with unknown parties is often a public servant on the take. Worse, most of the American public believe that if a behavior is indistinguishable from theft, or graft, or bribery in both appearance and outcome, well, then it must be theft, or graft, or bribery. As a result, most public officials are subject to a code of ethics. However, no such rules apply to the Supreme Court.

Fortunately, as Chief Justice Roberts pointed out, he and his colleagues are all “jurists of exceptional integrity.” That’s why they can take hundreds of free vacations without it influencing their behavior. They know it. Sadly, many of the rest of us don’t. So the problem lies with us, the American public.

Educating the proletariat to think correctly, unfortunately, is an almost impossible task. Otherwise, we wouldn’t need a class of people who are completely unaccountable to tell us what we can and cannot do. So if we cannot bring wisdom to the peasantry, how else can we ensure that the Scalias are afforded the deference they are due? One way to protect our betters is to remind them that the rest of us truly don’t get it. They need to know that we really are simple enough to confuse the appearance of impropriety with impropriety.

Unfortunately, it will take a code of ethics applying to the Supreme Court for the public to “get it.” And it turns out this isn’t a new idea. Every so often, (beginning in 1973!) someone in Congress introduces something called the Supreme Court Ethics Act. I can’t speak for the details of the bill, but conceptually, this is just the sort of thing that would protect the reputation of Scalia and his peers from gutter-sniping by the peons.

But that points to yet another way the public has failed our esteemed superiors: the Supreme Court Ethics Act never gets the votes it needs to protect the Guardians of the Constitution. But I sense an opportunity, a way for us, the ignorant non-members of the rarified Judiciary, to redeem ourselves for the offenses we caused to Scalia’s reputation. We can petition Congress to support the Act. More importantly, we can ask that the bill be renamed. Who, after all, could possibly oppose the Honorable Justice Antonin Scalia Ethics and Integrity Act?


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Wednesday, March 9, 2016 2:54 AM

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Perhaps there is such a thing as Karma.


SGG


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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by ElvisChrist:

Celebrate the death of evil, for the world became a better place the day Scalia was snuffed.

You are mistaken about Scalia being evil. He was a simple glutton for the adulation he received from the rich and powerful for deciding in their favor. They rewarded piggy Scalia with food.

The wiki article on Originalism connects Scalia to the intellectual nonsense that is Originalism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Originalism#Originalism_and_strict_const
ructionism


Scalia was only bad (but not in his own eyes) because he lied about his motives for being an Originalist. There is a bible verse that says it is perfectly right to mislead your enemies, so Scalia’s conscience was clear about writing opinions on the “original” meaning of the Constitution.
Quote:

Originally posted by ElvisChrist:

Gotta watch out for those secret societies. Hanging out a Bohemian Grove doesn't always end well.

It is not accidental that the Constitution’s "original" meaning always ended with Scalia receiving free food and invitations to resorts. Scalia would still be alive if weren’t for the excesses of food and booze ruining his health. He was controlled by his gut, not his brain.


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Perhaps there is such a thing as Karma.


SGG

Karma turns out to be that a public servant receiving gratuities from and engaging in surreptitious conversations with unknown parties is often a public servant on the take. Most of the American public believe that if a behavior is indistinguishable from theft or graft or bribery in both appearance and outcome, well, then it must be theft or graft or bribery.

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Antonin Scalia’s death has already changed the way the Supreme Court —- and conservative litigants -— do business
www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2016/03/antonin
_scalia_s_death_has_changed_the_way_the_supreme_court_and_conservative.html


Nobody quite knows what to make of it yet, but nobody disputes it, either: The Supreme Court of March looks nothing like the court we knew in February. The loss of a single justice, Antonin Scalia, has blown up the court and reshuffled everything. It’s the early days yet, and much of the evidence of newish, liberalish outcomes at the court lies in routine housekeeping matters: unsigned orders and withdrawn appeals. Still, it’s safe to say the high court is no longer going to be a candy store for pro-business and socially conservative litigants. What will rise in its place is still a work in progress.

As the Washington Post’s Robert Barnes put it this past weekend, with Scalia gone, “the Supreme Court, now with only eight members, seemed transformed in substance and style.” It wasn’t just the fact that Justice Clarence Thomas, after 10 years of declining to ask a single question at oral argument, suddenly did so. It wasn’t merely the fact that arguments in a blockbuster abortion case were dominated by the court’s liberal wing, while the conservative bloc struggled to land a punch.

The crazy new vibe at the court isn’t even limited to the raft of orders that have come down in the past week. Those include a critical and unanimous order affirming the right of same-sex partners to adopt children and the tossing of a death penalty conviction in Louisiana because the state withheld significant exculpatory evidence.

There was also last Friday’s unsigned order allowing several abortion clinics in Louisiana to reopen their doors, following an emergency decision from the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals that would have shuttered all but one clinic in that state. In one sense, the order to keep the clinics open while the case progresses was not a massive surprise. Last June, the Supreme Court issued a similar last-minute stay of the 5th Circuit’s Whole Woman’s Health decision that would have closed a significant number of clinics in Texas. The high court heard arguments in the Texas challenge last week.

As ThinkProgress’ Ian Millhiser astutely noticed, in choosing to reinstate the Louisiana abortion rules, the 5th Circuit brushed aside the fact that the Supreme Court had prevented Texas’ clinics from closing last June. Faced with the snub, the court tartly reminded the 5th Circuit that keeping the Louisiana clinics open is “consistent with the Court’s action granting a stay in Whole Woman’s Health v. Cole.” In other words, says the Supreme Court to Louisiana, “We may be 4–4 now, but we are still here. Thank you.”

This week, the Wall Street Journal’s Jess Bravin also noted that a new alliance seems to have cropped up between the court’s two most conservative members, Thomas and Justice Samuel Alito. The emerging split between these two determined conservatives and their colleagues might be in reaction, writes Bravin, to Chief Justice John Roberts “apparently seeking consensus where he can on a court hobbled by potential 4-4 ideological splits.” By contrast, Thomas and Alito seem to be redoubling their efforts to form a bulwark against “the path set out by their six colleagues.” As Bravin details, just in the past week, the two conservatives joined together to dissent “from unsigned majority decisions overturning a murder conviction and denying a conservative group’s appeal seeking to force a transit agency to run its advertisements.” The two conservatives also aligned in an effort to uphold the right of states to sentence juveniles to life in prison without parole.

But changes at the court itself are only half of it. There’s also a growing sense among conservative interest groups and litigation shops that the good times and rich bounty of the old Roberts court are no longer on offer and that it may be better to cut and run than stick around and lose.

In an incredibly short time frame we have seen, for instance, a major antitrust appeal from Dow Chemical settled for $835 million last month, when the company determined that it wasn’t worth the risk to spin the wheel at a 4–4 court. Having only last month granted a completely unprecedented stay in a challenge to President Obama’s new environmental regulations—before the case had even been adjudicated in a lower court—Roberts batted away a similar request challenging a different pollution regulation without comment last week. Not here, he seemed to be cautioning Michigan and the other states that wanted to challenge the law. Not anymore.

Consider, too, that in New York this week a key gun rights group opted to drop its challenge to Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s SAFE Act—the big post–Sandy Hook gun control initiative—out of a concern that it could not prevail at the high court without Scalia on the bench. According to the New York Daily News, a National Rifle Association board member explained that the challenge had been halted en route to the court because “it’s just the wrong time.” His lawyers advised that “going forward could damage the case because the High Court at the very least would likely deliver a split 4-4 decision that would leave the law in place.”

This is a shocking turn from how the judicial landscape looked earlier this year. Going into this term, a number of important cases had been seen as likely to change the way we vote, the way we regulate abortion, and the way we fund public-sector unions. So certain were some plaintiffs of their likelihood of success that they had their appeals rocketed to the Roberts court on a fast track, catapulted by various interest groups toward the conservative majority. As Mother Jones’ Stephanie Mencimer pointed out immediately after Scalia’s death in February, several of the cases that looked like potential blockbuster wins for the right this term had arrived at the Supreme Court via the fast lane.

The public-sector unions case, Friedrichs v. California Teachers Association, which challenged the way teacher unions are funded, hurtled up to the court in double time. The lawyers for the dissenting teachers specifically asked the lower court to rule against them to speed the case’s route to the Supreme Court. This was in response to a suggestion from Alito in a 2014 decision that the precedent in the union fees case was now “questionable on several grounds.” As Mencimer also noted, two voting rights cases, Evenwel v. Abbott and Harris v. Arizona Independent Redistricting Commission, had sped along by way of unusual three-judge courts. As David Gans explained last June:

… appeals from three-judge courts go straight to the Supreme Court. In the hands of conservative activists, immediate appeal to the Supreme Court has been a potent weapon for deregulating campaign finance law and gutting the Voting Rights Act. Since John Roberts became Chief Justice nearly ten years ago, almost every Term has featured a major election law case coming by direct appeal. And more are on their way.

Like the raven once said: nevermore. Suddenly, in a scenario where the conservative justices have been reduced to four, the high-speed pipeline looks far less attractive. It’s not at all clear these fast-track appeals will continue, so long as outcomes are uncertain and given the possibility of a long-term vacancy. By the same token, the tactics deployed to hustle last year’s big Obamacare challenge to the high court will likely lose their allure now. Nobody wants to rush a case to the court with even odds. Watch for a lot of hurry up and wait from conservatives groups that used to be all hurry.

Expect a lot more weirdness and subtle signaling from the court as the term rolls on. An institution that never wished to be an election issue has become one. What might have once been routine orders have now turned into a complex game of reputation management. Whether it’s the chief justice trying to appear apolitical, the conservative justices trying to fly the flag of ideology, or the liberals making hay while the sun briefly shines, nothing at the court these days is exactly what it appears to be, and it appears it will be that way for a while.

And despite most of the justices’ eagerness to keep the court off the ballot in November, the sudden frailty of the conservative bloc and the almost giddily emboldened left reveal how high the stakes will be in the general election. These past few weeks have proved to the right that its fears about the post-Scalia court are justified and tantalized the left with promises of a golden era with Ruth Bader Ginsburg tossing thunderbolts around from on high. Even as it tries to speak softly and subtly this month, the court reveals just how much now hangs in the balance.



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Quote:

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Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
I hope the Republicans in the Senate have the balls to hold up Barry's next hack. They're saying that the next Prez should make the pick, I hope the Republicans in the Senate drive Barry and the Dems bat shit crazy. But they may cave, BUT the anarchist in me hopes the hold their own.



I hope they do, too. It will give Bernie a chance to appoint Obama to the bench!

That will be fine with me.

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Thu, October 31, 2024 20:54 - 15 posts
U.S. Senate Races 2024
Thu, October 31, 2024 20:49 - 9 posts
Electoral College, ReSteal 2024 Edition
Thu, October 31, 2024 20:47 - 35 posts
Are we witnessing President Biden's revenge tour?
Thu, October 31, 2024 20:44 - 7 posts
No Thread On Topic, More Than 17 Days After Hamas Terrorists Invade, Slaughter Innocent Israelis?
Thu, October 31, 2024 20:35 - 35 posts
Ghosts
Thu, October 31, 2024 20:30 - 72 posts
U.S. House Races 2024
Thu, October 31, 2024 20:30 - 5 posts
Election fraud.
Thu, October 31, 2024 20:28 - 35 posts
Will religion become extinct?
Thu, October 31, 2024 19:59 - 90 posts
Japanese Culture, S.Korea movies are now outselling American entertainment products
Thu, October 31, 2024 19:46 - 44 posts
Elon Musk
Thu, October 31, 2024 19:33 - 28 posts
Kamala Harris for President
Thu, October 31, 2024 19:24 - 594 posts

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