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Kentucky in the hands of Republican Governor

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Wednesday, November 4, 2015 1:57 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Matt Bevin, a Tea Party candidate wins governorship in Kentucky.
Now we're going to see something, the repeal of Obamacare and
500,000 people without health care..............................

Do not pass Go and do not collect $200, back to square one.


SGG

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Wednesday, November 4, 2015 7:41 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Matt Bevin, a Tea Party candidate wins governorship in Kentucky.
Now we're going to see something, the repeal of Obamacare and
500,000 people without health care..............................
back to square one.

Bevin has said he plans to shut down kynect next year, by the fall of 2016, and transfer people to the federal exchange — a process health policy experts say could be costly and disruptive to people who use it to manage their health insurance coverage.

"Kynect is working, and it's working well," said Jennifer Tolbert, director of state health reform with the Kaiser Family Foundation in Washington.

Decommissioning kynect could take months and cost millions of dollars — money Kentucky would have to repay the federal government, which financed the startup of the exchange, according to a presentation state officials made to a legislative committee in August.

The technology costs alone could run as high as $23 million, Haynes told the human resources budget subcommittee.
www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/elections/kentucky/2015/11
/04/election-puts-ky-health-care-crosshairs/75150288
/

Bevin has repeatedly changed his position on Medicaid. In February, Bevin asserted that he would undo Beshear's executive action. "Absolutely. No question about it. I would reverse that immediately," Bevin said. Since winning the Republican primary in May, however, Bevin has wavered. The Lexington Herald-Leader explains: "In July, Bevin said it was 'an absolute lie' that he ever said he would reverse the expansion on his first day in office." But then he appeared to change his mind again: "In an August fund raising letter, he was back to calling for complete reversal."

Bevin's most recent position: Junk the current system and replace it with an alternative that's likely to include premiums or co-pays. “I want these folks to have skin in the game,’’ Bevin said last week, echoing a popular Republican talking point. “People don’t value something they haven’t invested in.” The Republican insisted that he wouldn't take away coverage from the 400,000 enrollees. But he also said in the interview that he "will not continue" to enroll Kentuckians at 138 percent of the federal poverty level, which is the threshold for Obamacare's Medicaid program. (It amounts to about $16,200 for a single person.)

Bevin could make still good on his earlier promise to reverse the Medicaid expansion without providing an alternative, but that would invite a huge backlash—and come at a financial as well as political cost. Contrary to Bevin's attacks about the burden of expanding coverage on taxpayers, the state's own analysis shows that the Medicaid expansion has saved Kentucky money and will continue to do so through 2021, even after the state is required to shoulder more of the cost. (The federal government covers the state’s full expansion cost through 2016, gradually declining to 90 percent by 2020, where it remains.)
www.newrepublic.com/article/123345/kentucky-just-set-stage-next-obamac
are-war

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Thursday, November 5, 2015 3:57 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Beshear has stated that in every instance Kynect has proved to be a major success and has provided coverage for folks previously without health care, saving the state millions in emergency room care.

People didn't even know that Kynect coverage was coverage under the ACA (Obamacare), and were happy with their health care coverage.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/kentucky-governor-conway-bevin-oba
macare_5638f8e2e4b079a43c04cea6


The GOP have them totally brainwashed against the ACA.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by SECOND:
Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Matt Bevin, a Tea Party candidate wins governorship in Kentucky.
Now we're going to see something, the repeal of Obamacare and
500,000 people without health care..............................
back to square one.

Bevin has said he plans to shut down kynect next year, by the fall of 2016, and transfer people to the federal exchange — a process health policy experts say could be costly and disruptive to people who use it to manage their health insurance coverage.

"Kynect is working, and it's working well," said Jennifer Tolbert, director of state health reform with the Kaiser Family Foundation in Washington.

Decommissioning kynect could take months and cost millions of dollars — money Kentucky would have to repay the federal government, which financed the startup of the exchange, according to a presentation state officials made to a legislative committee in August.

The technology costs alone could run as high as $23 million, Haynes told the human resources budget subcommittee.
www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/elections/kentucky/2015/11
/04/election-puts-ky-health-care-crosshairs/75150288
/

Bevin has repeatedly changed his position on Medicaid. In February, Bevin asserted that he would undo Beshear's executive action. "Absolutely. No question about it. I would reverse that immediately," Bevin said. Since winning the Republican primary in May, however, Bevin has wavered. The Lexington Herald-Leader explains: "In July, Bevin said it was 'an absolute lie' that he ever said he would reverse the expansion on his first day in office." But then he appeared to change his mind again: "In an August fund raising letter, he was back to calling for complete reversal."

Bevin's most recent position: Junk the current system and replace it with an alternative that's likely to include premiums or co-pays. “I want these folks to have skin in the game,’’ Bevin said last week, echoing a popular Republican talking point. “People don’t value something they haven’t invested in.” The Republican insisted that he wouldn't take away coverage from the 400,000 enrollees. But he also said in the interview that he "will not continue" to enroll Kentuckians at 138 percent of the federal poverty level, which is the threshold for Obamacare's Medicaid program. (It amounts to about $16,200 for a single person.)

Bevin could make still good on his earlier promise to reverse the Medicaid expansion without providing an alternative, but that would invite a huge backlash—and come at a financial as well as political cost. Contrary to Bevin's attacks about the burden of expanding coverage on taxpayers, the state's own analysis shows that the Medicaid expansion has saved Kentucky money and will continue to do so through 2021, even after the state is required to shoulder more of the cost. (The federal government covers the state’s full expansion cost through 2016, gradually declining to 90 percent by 2020, where it remains.)
www.newrepublic.com/article/123345/kentucky-just-set-stage-next-obamac
are-war


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Thursday, November 5, 2015 8:59 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:

People didn't even know that Kynect coverage was coverage under the ACA (Obamacare), and were happy with their health care coverage.

The GOP have them totally brainwashed against the ACA.

It is not really brainwashing. The GOP knows that people can't make and hold for more than a very little while the simple mental connections such as Kynect = Obamacare. The GOP can (over and over again) run campaigns that qualify as the dictionary definition of “bad faith,” a concept having to do in law and ethics with “intent to deceive.” Soon a majority of the voters will forget and, for the one thousandth time, be once again ready for another deception.

That's why the Presidency keeps flipping back and forth between GOP and Democrats. Memories fade of the last time a Republican was President.
www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/paul-krugman-democrats-have-best-r
ecord-on-economy-1.2414477

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/10/23/the-6-trillion-men/
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/11/01/job-killing-obama/
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2015/11/republicans-love-giving-away-fr
ee-stuff-%E2%80%94-only-people-who-already-have-lots-stuff

www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2015/10/are-we-allowed-say-marco-rubio-
lying-about-his-tax-plan


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Thursday, November 5, 2015 10:46 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Will Republicans remember during primary voting that presidential candidate Ben Carson told graduates during the 1998 commencement for Andrews University, a school associated with the Seventh-day Adventist Church, that he believed the pyramids in Egypt were built by the biblical figure Joseph to store grain, and not, as most archaeologists contend, as tombs for pharaohs?

Most Republicans voting for Carson in Kentucky will NOT remember. If they do remember, they will approve of Carson's extensive biblical knowledge.

Two videos: one from 1998 and one from 2015 will confirm what Ben Carson believes.




The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, November 5, 2015 11:34 AM

REAVERFAN


Voting against their own interests. Stunning.

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Thursday, November 5, 2015 2:25 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Voting against their own interests. Stunning.

Wrong! They are NOT voting against their own interests. They are just plain NOT voting. It is kind of a subtle difference, but significant. It is why the USA has been seriously malfunctioning.

From http://elect.ky.gov/SiteCollectionDocuments/Election%20Statistics/turn
out/2011-2019/2015/voterturnoutagesex-2015P-20150720-015425.pdf

4% voted from Age Group 1 (17-24)
5% voted from Age Group 2 (25-34)
10% voted from Age Group 3 (35-49)
A higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats voted, but most did not vote.

Less than 10% are voting. Imagine a country where only one person in ten flushes the toilet. That country would stink. Do you see any connection between NOT voting and government stinking? I do. Maybe it is just my imagination.

You can look at statistics for other Kentucky elections from other years here:
http://elect.ky.gov/statistics/Pages/turnoutstatistics.aspx



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, November 5, 2015 7:51 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


First black woman Lt Governor in Kentucky as well. But she's a TEA Party person too, so she's clearly an Auntie Tom, or what ever.

Oh, Obama-Care ? It's collapsing under it's own failure. Despite the GOP's enthusiastic attempts to save it.

Bastards.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Friday, November 6, 2015 3:40 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Oh, Obama-Care ? It's collapsing under it's own failure. Despite the GOP's enthusiastic attempts to save it.


You're kidding me, right!?


SGG

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Friday, November 6, 2015 8:23 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Oh, Obama-Care ? It's collapsing under it's own failure. Despite the GOP's enthusiastic attempts to save it.


You're kidding me, right!?


SGG





Collapsing Obamacare Co-ops Signal Big Trouble to Come

** More than half of the co-ops have been shut down this year, and nine of the 12 have shut down since October 1, either by HHS or by the states in which they operate. Over a billion dollars in loans and and backstop payments have been lost. The latest failure to be announced was in Michigan, where Consumers Mutual Insurance announced Tuesday that it would not sell insurance for 2016. The failure of these dozen co-ops has left nearly 750,000 consumers in the cold, looking for a plan from a traditional insurer at a higher price. **

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/collapsing-obamacare-co-ops-signal-11000
0505.html



More than half of ACA co-ops now out of insurance marketplaces


https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/more-than-half-
of-aca-co-ops-now-out-of-insurance-marketplaces/2015/11/03/5ba95b86-824b-11e5-9afb-0c971f713d0c_story.html



Krauthammer: ObamaCare will collapse on its own

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/28/krauthammer-obamacare-will-
collapse-on-its-own
/

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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