Sign Up | Log In
REAL WORLD EVENT DISCUSSIONS
Updates
Friday, August 28, 2015 11:01 PM
WISHIMAY
Saturday, August 29, 2015 3:43 AM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Saturday, August 29, 2015 5:46 AM
SHINYGOODGUY
Saturday, August 29, 2015 11:36 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:Two. No, not THAT Two Hubby finally lost his job coal minin'. We at least got a couple weeks severance. More than we ever got before. There isn't ANYTHING out here that pays comparable so... F U OBAMA.
Quote:And on the "renewable energy" front I see the second biggest solar company has run from Vegas after TWO WEEKS of business. So that'll be here... thirty years from now???
Quote:But he starts a new job Monday. Like I said, you can get by here if you mind your P's and Q's. Not by depending on unemployment, which we didn't get...AGAIN.
Quote:And with the horrible financial year we had, too. But, we're still movin' along, somehow. Those 2 visits to the E.R. earlier this year?? We just got another bill... We're up to $3000 !!! dollars. And his previous job is refusing to pay for a docs visit from an injury he got at work, too.
Quote:And the homeschooling?? Right out the window. At least she seems to be doing ok. Thought I was going to get a job, but I ended being more help fielding calls and printing resumes. At least she wasn't here to see all the fretting and worry.
Quote:I see India is still Dark Age'n it. I stand by my original assessment.
Quote:Now, who do we think will win the election? And don't give me who YOU want to win....Give me who you think will actually take the cake. I know it's early yet... I'm just curious.
Saturday, August 29, 2015 12:51 PM
Sunday, August 30, 2015 12:04 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Um... I don't follow coal, but what happened that made coal unprofitable? As far as I know there are no new regulations in place that are going to have an impact any time soon. So, what am I missing? Even long-term Dems that I know are bailing on Hillary. I think people are just spinning the wheel, because NOBODY has made a positive improvement in their lives lately.
Sunday, August 30, 2015 12:17 PM
Sunday, August 30, 2015 3:21 PM
Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:37 PM
Sunday, August 30, 2015 10:04 PM
Sunday, August 30, 2015 11:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: I thought you believed in uncomfortable truths. ETA: - OK. That was snippy and took discussion backwards, not forwards. I apologize. How about this. Tell me how corporations are an irrelevant cause of the sinking American standard of living, and decreasing American hope for the future, including yours. OR, if not that, why they are not worth discussing.
Monday, August 31, 2015 12:16 AM
Monday, August 31, 2015 2:59 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Wishimay: Well, it's been a few weeks since I stepped back from FFF. First off, I apologize to JSF for the misunderstanding on that thread a month ago. I'm pretty good at intent most days, but some are better than others.... Two. No, not THAT Two Hubby finally lost his job coal minin'. We at least got a couple weeks severance. More than we ever got before. There isn't ANYTHING out here that pays comparable so... F U OBAMA. And on the "renewable energy" front I see the second biggest solar company has run from Vegas after TWO WEEKS of business. So that'll be here... thirty years from now??? But he starts a new job Monday. Like I said, you can get by here if you mind your P's and Q's. Not by depending on unemployment, which we didn't get...AGAIN. And with the horrible financial year we had, too. But, we're still movin' along, somehow. Those 2 visits to the E.R. earlier this year?? We just got another bill... We're up to $3000 !!! dollars. And his previous job is refusing to pay for a docs visit from an injury he got at work, too. And the homeschooling?? Right out the window. At least she seems to be doing ok. Thought I was going to get a job, but I ended being more help fielding calls and printing resumes. At least she wasn't here to see all the fretting and worry. I see India is still Dark Age'n it. I stand by my original assessment. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/indian-sisters-rape-punishment_55e09fece4b0b7a96338d781?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592&ref=yfp Sad thing is, I've seen dozens of these types of articles.... Now, who do we think will win the election? And don't give me who YOU want to win....Give me who you think will actually take the cake. I know it's early yet... I'm just curious.
Monday, August 31, 2015 6:59 AM
TWO
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Quote:Originally posted by Wishimay: Two. No, not THAT Two Hubby finally lost his job coal minin'. We at least got a couple weeks severance. More than we ever got before. There isn't ANYTHING out here that pays comparable so... F U OBAMA.
Quote:Originally posted by Wishimay: You REALLY think everyone works or should work the way you operate don't you?
Monday, August 31, 2015 10:49 AM
Monday, August 31, 2015 11:18 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: It's how the 40-hour workweek, worker safety, and other improvements were won. If there's a drive to unionize temp or contract workers, that's an important fight to join, or perhaps start.
Monday, August 31, 2015 2:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Wishimay: Conclusion? UNION REP WAS PAID OFF. . . . Look at Trump, running for Prez. 'Nuff said.
Monday, August 31, 2015 2:15 PM
Monday, August 31, 2015 2:53 PM
Monday, August 31, 2015 7:13 PM
JO753
rezident owtsidr
Quote:Originally posted by Wishimay: Hubby finally lost his job coal minin'.... And with the horrible financial year we had, too.... We just got another bill...And the homeschooling?? Right out the window.
Monday, August 31, 2015 10:57 PM
Monday, August 31, 2015 11:05 PM
Quote: Originally posted by 1kiki: Having a good lawyer makes all the difference.
Monday, August 31, 2015 11:31 PM
Tuesday, September 1, 2015 2:24 AM
Tuesday, September 1, 2015 5:41 AM
Tuesday, September 1, 2015 5:43 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Wishimay: The difference being that Trump has the cash to lose fighting for a crap job and we do not. Nor the time or energy. Any day NOT spent with a lawyer is a good day... Hubbs gave his two weeks notice right then, and did not wait. The point isn't the crap job at all, the point was that unions don't work anymore.
Tuesday, September 1, 2015 6:04 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Wishimay: Quote: Originally posted by 1kiki: Having a good lawyer makes all the difference. Good...Lawyer...? Somehow, I do not think that means what you think it means... Like I said...crap job. Best to find somethin' else, but no one likes to get screwed anyhow. He stayed at that job for two years to long, but you can't believe how people like to see that on a resume. May have even gotten him this job. Doing Maintenance, BTW.
Tuesday, September 1, 2015 8:43 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:After 5 years of solid performance, I was treated like crap. I left for another lousy job (little did I know at the time). No union, no nothing. Just a poor sucker thinking that hard work would eventually pay off.
Tuesday, September 1, 2015 10:15 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Making America Great Again..............it's not just Trump trying to sell us a bill of goods. That American Dream bull, is just that. That died long ago. It started in the late 70s, early 80s. And now it's come to this. There's Super Rich, Rich, then it goes to scraping by, and finally poor..........the Middle Class is much like the Land of Oz.
Tuesday, September 1, 2015 2:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Just a poor sucker thinking that hard work would eventually pay off. Making America Great Again..............it's not just Trump trying to sell us a bill of goods. That American Dream bull, is just that. That died long ago. It started in the late 70s, early 80s. And now it's come to this. There's Super Rich, Rich, then it goes to scraping by, and finally poor..........the Middle Class is much like the Land of Oz.
Tuesday, September 1, 2015 4:20 PM
Tuesday, September 1, 2015 5:57 PM
Tuesday, September 1, 2015 9:01 PM
Tuesday, September 1, 2015 10:36 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by Wishimay: Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Just a poor sucker thinking that hard work would eventually pay off. Making America Great Again..............it's not just Trump trying to sell us a bill of goods. That American Dream bull, is just that. That died long ago. It started in the late 70s, early 80s. And now it's come to this. There's Super Rich, Rich, then it goes to scraping by, and finally poor..........the Middle Class is much like the Land of Oz. On this, we agree. Had this conversation a couple days ago. You either have kids and have nothing, or don't have kids and have stuff or travel cheap. Working harder than your co-workers means NOTHING to employers these days because everyone is expendable and can be tossed out the second the ledger hits red. My uncles had decent money at one time got hit hard in the market TWICE, and are still working at 65 and 72... We don't even know anyone who has real money. My neighbor across the street always says they sold a house in Arizona for $500, 000 but that was years ago... That's as close as it gets to "rich" around here.
Tuesday, September 1, 2015 11:00 PM
Wednesday, September 2, 2015 1:31 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I don't understand why I get taxed so hard for being single without any kids. Women I used to work with used to make more than twice as much at my old job than I did because they'd get $12,000 checks after taxes. They would get more "back" in taxes than I made all year working.
Thursday, September 3, 2015 2:23 AM
Thursday, September 3, 2015 10:03 AM
Quote: On this, we agree. Had this conversation a couple days ago. You either have kids and have nothing, or don't have kids and have stuff or travel cheap. Working harder than your co-workers means NOTHING to employers these days because everyone is expendable and can be tossed out the second the ledger hits red. My uncles had decent money at one time got hit hard in the market TWICE, and are still working at 65 and 72... We don't even know anyone who has real money. My neighbor across the street always says they sold a house in Arizona for $500, 000 but that was years ago... That's as close as it gets to "rich" around here. ------------ There's the much lesser known 3rd option..... No kids, single guy with a house.... The silly thing is, as unemployed as I currently am, I'm not really struggling any more than I was when I had a shitty 30 hour a week minimum-wage job. Whether working or not working, I haven't been able to buy anything nice for myself in going on 4 years. Sure... I wouldn't even be able to have this house at the wages I've been making if I didn't buy it outright, but you would think that would give you some freedom, wouldn't you? It's actually a pretty horrible place to be, to be honest..... I could work 30-40 hours a week, part time, no insurance/benefits and make 8 bucks an hour. In doing so, I get nearly $200/mo. food stamps, I get nearly $500/yr. energy assitance, I get on the Healthy Indiana Plan for about $8/mo, I get a $300 property tax credit on state taxes. Or, I could work Full Time at $12/hr. Food Stamps are gone ($2300/yr). Energy Assistance is gone ($500/yr). Property Tax Credit gone ($300/yr). Unless I can make $15 an hour with good benefits, what is my incentive to ever work more than part time minimum wage, stuck where I'm at? All of those benefits I get, not including insurance, are tax free. Add 12% to them to cover state taxes and Social Security/Medicaid and now that's an extra $3,472 I need to make Gross to break even. Full time is 2080 hours a year. That's an extra $1.66 an hour I need to make JUST TO BREAK EVEN with the NOTHING I have now. So even if I'm making $4 more an hour, even before taxes, I'm losing nearly half of that to lost benefits. And that's not even including health insurance costs. Instead of paying $8 bucks a month for the Healthy Indiana Plan, now I have to pay over $120/month for the lowest level of the company health plan for myself. That's about $0.80 an hour more that I don't get to see when I finally cash my check. I'm teetering right on the precipice of Bull and Shit. Whether I make 8 bucks an hour or 12 bucks an hour, the end result for me is the same. Life sucks, I can't afford to have any fun, I rue the day when my car stops working..... I don't understand why I get taxed so hard for being single without any kids. Women I used to work with used to make more than twice as much at my old job than I did because they'd get $12,000 checks after taxes. They would get more "back" in taxes than I made all year working. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Thursday, September 3, 2015 6:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: And now you understand what government handouts are for. They're to make up for the cruelties of BUSINESS, so that BUSINESS can continue to destroy jobs and depress wages without engendering a total revolt.
Friday, September 4, 2015 11:04 AM
Quote:What I still don't understand, is with all the atrocities you have seen all around the world, why do you two expect any better out of people? You'd have to chemically eradicate ego to get the 1% to operate any differently, and I'm not sure that that would be advantageous to begin with.
Friday, September 4, 2015 12:36 PM
Friday, September 4, 2015 12:51 PM
Friday, September 4, 2015 1:42 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Thanks for all the info. But now I need a few drinks because I'm pissed off all over again. . . . Most people don't think that there's anything wrong with the way things are. Or if they do, they can't identify who's doing it. Or won't ORGANIZE or JOIN with other people in unions or politically active groups.
Friday, September 4, 2015 2:27 PM
Friday, September 4, 2015 4:20 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Why are you bitching about people who are a .01 millimeter up the scale from you? Why not bitch about the taxes and benefits of the people who are in stratosphere?
Friday, September 4, 2015 8:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Second I don't think as a country we've really tried the ballot box as a remedy. People seem content to say - well, I voted once but s/he wasn't what I expected. So, see? It's useless. Voting needs to be a large, steady push. You vote out the people who don't serve your interests and you KEEP ON voting out the people who don't serve your interests with every ballot. It will work somewhat at every cycle, and the more cycles you do this, the better things become.
Friday, September 4, 2015 9:04 PM
Saturday, September 5, 2015 12:56 AM
Saturday, September 5, 2015 8:02 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Answer me second.... I'm really hurting here, and I have no good answer.
Saturday, September 5, 2015 9:01 AM
Quote:6-ix Income Inequality: 1 Inch to 5 Miles- KIKI
YOUR OPTIONS
NEW POSTS TODAY
OTHER TOPICS
FFF.NET SOCIAL