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holy Breaking Bad jeebus OMG!! (possible s5 spoilers, but not in the OP)
Monday, September 16, 2013 8:50 PM
MAL4PREZ
Monday, September 16, 2013 11:09 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Quote:Originally posted by MAL4PREZ: Please, someone say they watch too and understand.
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Tuesday, September 17, 2013 1:46 AM
Tuesday, September 17, 2013 4:35 AM
Tuesday, September 17, 2013 6:50 AM
Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:22 AM
TWO
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Quote: The show has accurately been compared to a Shakespearean tragedy, and it's clear that the Bard's works have influenced Vince Gilligan, the show's creator. Perhaps, then, one might turn to the works of Shakespeare to try and divine how Breaking Bad might end—or at least, how Shakespeare would end it.
Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:58 AM
STORYMARK
Quote:Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA: Quote:Originally posted by MAL4PREZ: Please, someone say they watch too and understand. Yes. Given my own trials and tribulations with our so called medical care industry, hatred for the "War on (some) Drugs", and the general insanity of control which allows situations like that to develop and fester, of *course* I watch it, when I've the time. Select to view spoiler:And being a bit of a science geek who specialized in stuff that goes boom, when he says "This... is not meth" and goes to pitch that bit of crystal, I was like HOLYSHITTHATSMERCURYFULMINATE and ducked, while everyone else was going "huh?!" till the boom happened. -F
Tuesday, September 17, 2013 12:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by MAL4PREZ: About Walter... Select to view spoiler: I disagree for the most part. I think you're projecting your own hatred of society onto him. Sure, old Walt hates his life and a big part of becoming Heisenberg is escaping from the suffocation of his system, but hey - he brought it on himself. He put himself exactly where he was. He didn't just hate the system, he hated what he himself had become. His true underlying motivation is his need to be almighty. He was supposed to be a genius chemist founder of the billion dollar company, worshiped and admired by all. Every room is supposed to go hush when he speaks. Instead... well, look at where he was at the beginning of the series. Pathetic and weak and mocked by his students and his own brother in law. There is no reason to think that he was a poor innocent victim in the Grey Matter affair. I saw pretty broad hints that he was the ass in that situation and later convinced himself that it was all THEIR fault and they were unfair to him because he couldn't handle blaming himself for blowing it. Sure, he wanted to help his family, he wanted to buck the system that had him pretty well cowed, but his greed for power was what really won out. He continually dug himself deeper because he wanted to be a big bad and he wanted everyone to know it. He loved being the kingpin of a whole empire. He didn't want to destroy the system. He just wanted the system to serve him. Anyhow, certainly Walt is a complicated character who could be debated for days, but that's not what's killing me. Select to view spoiler: What in the hell did Walt just do to Jesse? Jesse is the only character on this show who really has a heart. Certainly he's done bad stuff and made shitty choices, but he is the only one who *feels* for other people. Even Hank had absolutely no respect for the humanity of criminals, even though he broke the law himself. Jesse was the heart and conscience of the show, and I think for the middle part of the series he was the tether that kept Walt from going all evil. Walt knew and managed his feelings for his family, and ignored the harm he did them when it was convenient, but the father thing with Jesse was beyond his control. For me the backbone of the series was this weird Jesse/Walt father/son thing, and I've been hoping, though I knew it was unlikely, that Jesse would eventually get some kind a pat on the head. There isn't a character in the world who needs a good long hug and cup of hot cocoa more than Jesse. But that's not possible now. Even if flash forward Walt miraculously finds his heart and means to save Jesse, it's just not possible. Jesse has been completely destroyed, and no kindness can bring him back. It was cruel of the writers, to take out the heart of the show like that. I don't know what they can do in two more hours to earn my forgiveness. Hey, it's a brilliant show, I don't mean I hate the writers or anything because I don't expect happy-happy, but they really broke my heart with this one. Walt twisting the knife about Jane? Shit! Brutal. That was horrible. *---------------------------------------* The French Revolution would have never happened if Marie Antoinette had just given every peasant an iPhone.
Tuesday, September 17, 2013 7:06 PM
Tuesday, September 17, 2013 7:08 PM
Quote:Originally posted by two: How Shakespeare Would End Breaking BadQuote: The show has accurately been compared to a Shakespearean tragedy, and it's clear that the Bard's works have influenced Vince Gilligan, the show's creator. Perhaps, then, one might turn to the works of Shakespeare to try and divine how Breaking Bad might end—or at least, how Shakespeare would end it. www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2013/09/how-shakespeare-would-end-em-breaking-bad-em/279553/ The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two
Tuesday, September 17, 2013 7:13 PM
Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:40 PM
Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:42 PM
Quote: Also, yeah I know they took a bit of artistic license with Mercury Fulminate, which is what is in the primers of ammunition, it's the bit that goes bang when the hammer or firing pin strikes it and sets off the gunpowder - I think it's also the main component of those impact-detonated fireworks sometimes known as snap-n-pops, pretty sure anyways, but it was still funny. Now if you'd wrapped a bit of Cyclonite (aka RDX) around that crystal, one might have blown the ENTIRE top of that building off - which is one thing not addressed (or in a terrifying thought, not YET addressed) in the series, that if he can cook Meth, there's *other* things Walter could make which are even or much WORSE.... Select to view spoiler:They did address the chem weapon aspect slightly early on in the show when he takes out Emilio and Krazy-8 with phosphine gas Cause I know a lil bit about the kind of chemistry that goes boom, see, and a guy of Walters skill could crank out some pretty serious kaboom if he wanted to. -Frem
Wednesday, September 18, 2013 5:53 PM
Quote:And no, I didn't take the projection comment personal, everyone sees the world through their own lens, and Breaking Bad is us seeing this all through Walters lens, which is maybe a little closer to mine than most - but because of that each of us can perceive an event or chain of them differently than each other, constrasting it with our own experiences.
Quote:Ironically I most identify with Mike,
Thursday, September 19, 2013 3:01 AM
Thursday, September 19, 2013 6:39 AM
Quote:Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA: . . . Besides, why's it matter so much if someone else likes/hates a fictional character so much ? Or even completely misconstrues the moral message of a story, which happens more often. . . . -Frem
Friday, September 20, 2013 8:29 PM
Friday, September 20, 2013 11:18 PM
Quote:Frem, when does your hatred of The Man make you a servant of The Man? I don't mean to suggest that you are, I mean to suggest that that is what has happened on this show, and that's what Walt fans have become.
Quote:“As long as the child will be trained not by love, but by fear, so long will humanity live not by justice, but by force. As long as the child will be ruled by the educator’s threat and by the father’s rod, so long will mankind be dominated by the policeman’s club, by fear of jail, and by panic of invasion by armies and navies.” Boris Sidis, from “A lecture on the abuse of the fear instinct in early education” in Journal of Abnormal Psychology, 1919.
Saturday, September 21, 2013 7:27 PM
Sunday, September 22, 2013 7:19 AM
Quote:I've long thought that there ought to be a rule: if some large percent of the population breaks a law, it should no longer be a law.
Friday, September 27, 2013 6:28 PM
Quote:Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA: End Result: Around here at least, there's a massive secondary market smuggling tobacco and prescription drugs
Quote:As for artificially low speed limits, well that's part of criminalizing everything so that there's ALWAYS an excuse to arrest anyone at any time, make everything a crime, all of us criminals, and the powers that be don't have to listen to us any more - and there's also, obviously, the money.
Friday, September 27, 2013 6:35 PM
Friday, September 27, 2013 7:43 PM
Monday, September 30, 2013 8:26 PM
Quote:Hear that mister anderson ? THAT, is the sound of inevitability.
Monday, September 30, 2013 10:41 PM
Quote:Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA: Oh, and Grey Matter - still comes across to me that that Elliot and Gretchen are not as innocent as they might seem,
Monday, September 30, 2013 11:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA: Well, that's that. No real surprises there - I think we all knew the destination of that train from the moment it pulled out of the station, yep.
Tuesday, October 1, 2013 4:38 AM
Quote:So now when does The Walking Dead come back?
Tuesday, October 1, 2013 3:55 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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