Huuuge Angel spoilers for S5- *!SPOILERS!*

UPDATED: Friday, July 4, 2003 17:30
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Sunday, June 1, 2003 9:56 AM


Don't read if you don't want to know how Spike comes back next year on Angel...this stuff isn't confirmed, but it's meant to be from a reliable source... from



* The first characters we see are Buffy and Spike. It’s a flashback to Spike’s final moments over the Sunnydale hellmouth. Spike goes all bright and dusty, then:
* The first new scene is set in Wolfram & Hart’s “White Room.” It’s somebody’s point of view. Somebody on his or her back. Winifred, Charles and Wesley are all peering down. None of the trio has ever seen this mystery-person before, but Wes seems to have a pretty good idea who it is. Angel arrives and eliminates any abmbiguity with a single-word: “Spike.” No more POV. Spike naked save a familiar-looking amulet, turns groggily toward Angel and mutters, “Oh … bloody hell.” He hear a violin and the title credits roll.
* Actually, before the big reveal, the first thing we hear in the White Room POV shot is heavy breathing. But when we see Team Angel hovering, none of them seems to be breathing very hard.
* When Angel offers Spike a cup of blood in the law firm’s examination room, Spike says he actually feels like a chocolate shake.
* The second Spike learns Buffy survived the big doings in what used to be Sunnydale, he starts off to find his true love. But Angel won’t let him leave until he can figure out why Spike is still alive. “Oh reeaaly?” asks Spike. “And are we sure that’s the reason now?” Angel also wants the amulet back, since it’s technically Wolfram & Hart property. A big Spike-Angel fight ensues.
* There is much shattering of law-firm glass. As the Spike-Angel fight grows more intense, Angel goes into vamp-face. Spike tries to do the same, but finds he can’t!
* Angel manages to yank the Amulet away from Spike. Spike begins gasping and turning blue. “Angel, the amulet,” cries Wesley. “I think he needs it. He’s dying.” Angel hesitates, but Fred reminds Angel that Spike just finished saving the world.
* Angel returns the amulet and Spike’s complexion immediately turns rosier. “His breathing is returning to normal,” advises Wes. “‘Breathing?’” asks Fred.
* Angel rips a giant mirror from the wall. He can’t see himself in it, but Spike casts a reflection!
* Lilah turns up with Spike’s blood test. The DNA matches what the Initiative took out of Hostile 17 four years ago, but the amulet seems to have “cleansed” the vampire right out of Spike. He’s all human now!
* Wes remembers the Shanshu prophecy. “When that a souled vampire fulfills his destiny – whatever that may be – he becomes human.”
* But if Spike’s human, why is so strong, and able to fight Angel so effectively? Wes remembers speaking to Willow by phone about the “joining spell” that turned all the potentials into slayers. “So when the cleansing began,” asks Lilah, “did you – I dunno – touch Buffy?” Spike answers in the affirmative, flashing back to the fiery hand-holding.
* And then, at the end of this first act, Lilah and Wes come to the same conclusion – and reveal one last amazing thing about this new Spike:
* He’s now the world’s first male vampire slayer.


Sunday, June 1, 2003 10:05 AM


*Jaw hits the floor and bounces a couple times*

If this is true... wow that's a doozy

All I can say is that Buffy better guest star or something sometime... I need my B/S fix :P


Sunday, June 1, 2003 10:10 AM



I don't really want Spike on Angel...I don't want him in that mix. There was the potential to be the perfect ensemble- Angel, Fred, Gunn, Wes, Lorne and Cordy...but if Cordy's gone then I guess Spike will be okay...but can't they make Gwen a regular instead?
This male vampire slayer thing sounds a bit iffy, don't ya think it would be majorly cool if Fred became a Slayer? If she was empowered by Willow's spell? I think that woulda kinda rock! And before you say "that would be a lame coincidence" you could say that the Powers that Be manoeuvred Fred into Angel's group so when Willow did her spell (which of course the PtB knew would happen) Angel would have a slayer fighting by his side!


Sunday, June 1, 2003 10:25 AM


Sounds like sweet shit to me. I'm in!


Sunday, June 1, 2003 10:44 AM



Originally posted by Succatash:
Sounds like sweet shit to me. I'm in!

I second that thought! This'll make me watch season 5 even if it turns out to be Cordy-less.


Monday, June 2, 2003 5:01 AM


Oo. yes! I was RIGHT! I predicted that whole Shanshu thing wouldn't be about Angel! I KNEW it! And the rest of it sounds really cool, almost too cool to be a Joss thing. (Not that Joss is bad, Joss is cool, I'm just saying he likes to throw curve balls. Nothing is ever perfect, leaving you wanting more, which causes you to watch it more)
Though I think if that's all true, that would be great, but I don't know how they're going to keep him in LA and away from B so long.
Also, it looks like Lindsey could come back:

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?" -Wash
"I told him to sit down," -Simon


Monday, June 2, 2003 5:45 AM


Sadly, it turns out this isn't true. turns out it was just a sample of some guys writing...


In an official statement released 6/1/03, LCE's Richard O'Sullivan confirmed that he is the author of a recent script which sparked great debate on the internet (specifically at Harry Knowles' Ain't It Cool News). The script, rumored to be the fifth season opener of the WB television series Angel, was in fact a writing sample created by O'Sullivan and not an episode of the Joss Whedon show. O'Sullivan has not been hired by Mutant Enemy nor has his story been bought by ME, Fox Television, or the WB. O'Sullivan does, however, remain in talks with several production companies and does not rule out working with Mutant Enemy if the opportunity arises.

Keep Flying!


Wednesday, June 4, 2003 1:06 PM


Good. Sorry guys but Angel picked up the become human scroll because he had a magical connection to it, to make Spike be the one it was talking about would make the magic connection not work right, so it has to be Angel.


Wednesday, June 4, 2003 2:51 PM


Aw, shit! This whole thing is fake?


Friday, July 4, 2003 2:19 PM


yeah it's all fake. confirmed in this artle by joss himself:

from that article...

IGNFF: Have you seen the latest, wonderful Internet find of the purported leak of Spike's return on Angel next year?

WHEDON: No. How's it going to happen? Because I need some ideas.

IGNFF: Well let's see. According to this, Spike shows up in the White Room at the beginning of next season, wearing the amulet, naked, turns over, "Oh bloody hell," as Angel and crew stand over him. Cut to credits, come back, Angel and he get in a fight, Angel tries to rip the amulet off. Spike has trouble breathing, they put the amulet back on, find he's connected, and then Wes makes a determination that due to contact with Buffy at the time of death, Spike is human – but is now the first male vampire slayer.

WHEDON: Two words: Fan fic. Utter rubbish.

do you know what the chain of command is? it's the chain i go get and beat you with till you understand who's in rutten command here


Friday, July 4, 2003 5:30 PM


Spike the interesting character, I like him a
lot, but Joss does too, and became the focus of
everything, and even became the big hero for the
end of Buffy. I hope he doesn't take over the
show again. I guess its better than Conner taking
over the show. Spike should be a real villain again.

As for the fake rumors, I bet about half of that will come true, since its obvious Joss will just
pull the tried and true: "poof, you're alive again."






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