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Diorama Movies

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Friday, August 4, 2023 4:49 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Films with a scenes in one setting.

The most recent one I have seen in Cinema:
The Outfit (2022) starring Mark Rylance.

I enjoyed it. But I think I only saw it once.



I will also start a list of others I recall, plus others mentioned in this thread.


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Friday, August 4, 2023 5:00 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I do believe I coined that term.

Other movies:
Circle
Devil
Phone Booth
Inside


I know there's more I enjoyed. Those are the ones coming to my mind now.

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Saturday, August 5, 2023 3:30 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


I never seen Phone Booth or The Outfit I might give them a watch.

A small stage, drama with a replicated scene, a small scifi or horror or drama set sometimes the movie seems to be what is enclosed in a glass showcase

The English Patient ... Diarrhea bowel Drama movements. I have never been able to watch it perhaps the movie can cure insomnia.

Blair Witch, personally I feel its crap I don't like it I think its a stupid film and someone with snot dripping out their nose in the woods.

The Platform I caught some of this and I think it was Spanish, I watched it for a bit its ok I didn't turn it off.

Rashomon mostly like a court room drama, psychological thriller-crime film the film flashes back and is re-told depending on the human persepective, their was either an assault or a rape or a bandit defends his own situation or there was a murdered samurai spending who is giving testimony...it had huge influence on story telling in Western movies

'Underwater' a good attempt, some interesting moment and has its bits of interesting sound, some good shots and fx and dialogue, not bad but not great either, enjoyable.

'Ghost Ship' kinda cheesy but has some horror jump scare ideas, I liked it.

'Misery' a miserable King story but great acting.

Truman Show a guy is raised inside a movie set, he becomes a tv hit but exploited to live inside a simulated reality.

Event Horizon, beyond weird and dark, if you never seen it maybe its like Hellraiser, Warhammer and Aliens all into one nu-horror genre and a blackhole dimension or lost ship plot.

Haunting of Hill House, a good tv show all set in one big house

2001 A Space Odyssey mostly on one ship, I think its a good movie and important movie but many hate it.

Solyaris, a Polish Soviet scifi drama, they are on space station orbiting the fictional planet Solaris while the Living Planet might be distorting their mind causing hallucination. The movie was of political importance during its time it was remade in 2002 film with George Clooney, Natascha McElhone.

Rear Window almost all in one room an excellent movie even by today's standards

The second half of Hitchcock's Psycho is also mostly in one setting the Hotel.

'Jaws' the second half is mostly on one boat, a game of chess vs a monster the Shark

The Thing John Carpenter Remake stuck at the Pole with an Alien that can morph and mimic

The Hitcher, psychological horror and high-stakes drama mostly inside one car.

Locke ..a movie inside a car. Tom Hardy plays a character full of drama, leaves a construction site he's in the vehicle for the whole movie, lots of events and drama happening, difficult though for an actor to carry a film by himself yet he does but very good film

The Shining original mostly one weird supernatural drama horror hotel story, very well done.

Save the Green Planet a South Koreanfilm, beyond weird a loony-ish man with another loonish girl friend kidnap another man, they are convinced that the man they kidnapped is an alien

The Breakfast Club set in one 80s high school detention room.

Moon, sends back to Earth parcels of a resource that has helped diminish our planet's energy needs.

The Lighthouse, two lighthouse keepers try to maintain their sanity

Ron Howard's take on the historical events of 'Apollo 13' however they are in communication with ground control which makes it two settings not one.

Das Boot, War Drama but excellent movie

Also the more modern 'Hunter for Red October' or 'Crimson Tide'

I expect a Titan sub implosion movie soon

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Saturday, August 5, 2023 3:53 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Locke. Of course. Great example of a Diorama Movie.

I also just wrote that review for Alien Raiders in one of these threads a few weeks ago. Probably the low budget independent film thread. It had all the makings for something great, but fell on its face in the 3rd act.


Inside was last year with Willem Dafoe as an art thief that gets trapped inside a billionaire's apartment when he trips the security.

Devil took place almost entirely on an elevator. A rare M Knight Shamalyan movie that I liked, and I wouldn't have even watched it if it had his name on it but it came out when he'd been properly humbled.

Maybe you could put the Cube movies in here. It's a big spot, but every room looks the same pretty much.



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Saturday, August 5, 2023 4:02 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I do believe I coined that term.

Other movies:
Circle
Devil
Phone Booth
Inside


I know there's more I enjoyed. Those are the ones coming to my mind now.

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Yes, This thread is inspired by a post made by 6ix.
Several years later.


I am not sure if Compliance qualifies. It takes place in a Fast Food Restaurant, but it does have more than one room. It was based upon a true story.

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Wednesday, August 16, 2023 8:29 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


There are likely quite a few sci-fi films with one setting, such as a spaceccraft. Alien might qualify, but not the sequels, I think.

ETA: This post originally said "Aliens" although I typed "Alien" - I have corrected it above.

The interview with Hugo Weaving - I don't recall if they ever left that room.

I have not seen Nefarious, but it sounds like almost all of it takes place in one room. And i still want to see it, it was out of theaters too quick.


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Wednesday, August 16, 2023 9:33 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
There are likely quite a few sci-fi films with one setting, such as a spaceccraft. Aliens might qualify, but not the sequels, I think.

The interview with Hugo Weaving - I don't recall if they ever left that room.

I have not seen Nefarious, but it sounds like almost all of it takes place in one room. And i still want to see it, it was out of theaters too quick.





I'm not really sure how to qualify this type of movie...

At first I'd say that Aliens doesn't fit the mold, but how could you say that when I consider Phone Booth part of the genre and although the protagonist is stuck in that booth all movie you also get constant shots of a few city blocks outside of the booth. Aliens probably would fit because of that feeling that you're trapped in the middle of space with no way out away from this thing. Paranoia and claustrophobia probably plays a big role in a lot of these movies, but not all of them. Locke had no reason to be paranoid about being in his car all movie.

Also, if Aliens doesn't fit, than that movie I watched recently called Alien Raiders wouldn't fit because it takes place inside a supermarket, and there are scenes in the back rooms.

But if Alien Raiders fits, than The Mist fits too...


And come to think of it, a movie like Speed could fit... although not the way that it was filmed with a lot of scenes from all around showing the outside of the bus, not to mention scenes of the police and Dennis Hopper outside of the bus. But had that movie been filmed in a way where the entire thing took place inside the bus after it started and you only saw their reactions to what Dennis Hopper and the police were saying to them over the phone?


I dunno. Maybe Phone Booth would be a subset of the genre? A place where movies like Aliens and Alien Raiders and The Mist could fit, but not make the genre too broad.

Circle, Devil and Locke absolutely fall into this genre.

And even though Willam Defoe's Inside takes place in the various rooms of a very rich person's very large high-rise condo, I still want to include that since besides a voice over the walkie talkie and a few moments inside of his head that might have just been false memories of a man who was driven insane by loneliness, I feel it still fits because the entire movie was just one man and his acting chops in that setting, and he was very much trapped inside even if he had a ton of room to lounge about and wait around until he starved to death or died of dehydration.


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Thursday, August 17, 2023 4:44 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
There are likely quite a few sci-fi films with one setting, such as a spaceccraft. Aliens might qualify, but not the sequels, I think.

The interview with Hugo Weaving - I don't recall if they ever left that room.

I have not seen Nefarious, but it sounds like almost all of it takes place in one room. And i still want to see it, it was out of theaters too quick.





I'm not really sure how to qualify this type of movie...

At first I'd say that Aliens doesn't fit the mold, but how could you say that when I consider Phone Booth part of the genre and although the protagonist is stuck in that booth all movie you also get constant shots of a few city blocks outside of the booth. Aliens probably would fit because of that feeling that you're trapped in the middle of space with no way out away from this thing. Paranoia and claustrophobia probably plays a big role in a lot of these movies, but not all of them. Locke had no reason to be paranoid about being in his car all movie.

Also, if Aliens doesn't fit, than that movie I watched recently called Alien Raiders wouldn't fit because it takes place inside a supermarket, and there are scenes in the back rooms.

But if Alien Raiders fits, than The Mist fits too...


And come to think of it, a movie like Speed could fit... although not the way that it was filmed with a lot of scenes from all around showing the outside of the bus, not to mention scenes of the police and Dennis Hopper outside of the bus. But had that movie been filmed in a way where the entire thing took place inside the bus after it started and you only saw their reactions to what Dennis Hopper and the police were saying to them over the phone?


I dunno. Maybe Phone Booth would be a subset of the genre? A place where movies like Aliens and Alien Raiders and The Mist could fit, but not make the genre too broad.

Circle, Devil and Locke absolutely fall into this genre.

And even though Willam Defoe's Inside takes place in the various rooms of a very rich person's very large high-rise condo, I still want to include that since besides a voice over the walkie talkie and a few moments inside of his head that might have just been false memories of a man who was driven insane by loneliness, I feel it still fits because the entire movie was just one man and his acting chops in that setting, and he was very much trapped inside even if he had a ton of room to lounge about and wait around until he starved to death or died of dehydration.


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I meant Alien. The sequel Aliens does not qualify, I think being on the Spacecraft, the planet surface, the planet headquarters, the planet Reactor, etc.

If inside qualifies because it is in his mind, then Inception would be the same, and you said that jacob's Ladder was all in his drugged mind as well.

Passengers was on one ship, with 2 characters, although it was a huge craft, with many sets.
Castaway might qualify, although starting off on a runway and in a plane.

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Thursday, August 17, 2023 7:19 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I meant Alien. The sequel Aliens does not qualify, I think being on the Spacecraft, the planet surface, the planet headquarters, the planet Reactor, etc.



I meant Alien as well. If I typed Aliens by accident I didn't mean that. Aliens or Alien 3 or any of the other Aliens/Predator movies they made after that don't count.

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If inside qualifies because it is in his mind, then Inception would be the same, and you said that jacob's Ladder was all in his drugged mind as well.


That's not what I meant. 95% to 98% of the movie Inside takes place in that huge condo that he's trapped in. There are some "flashback" scenes that happen during the movie which is the only time you see any other actors beside Willem Dafoe. They seem more like dream sequences than something that happened in real life, and he only has these "memories" late into the movie when he's in really bad shape. These aren't scenes of him interacting with somebody while the events of the movie take place, and you get the feeling that they either didn't happen at all or they happened much differently than they're presented.

So no... Not like inception or Jacob's Ladder.

Come to think of it now though, it's a shame that maybe they didn't do more with the flashback scenes of Inside. In my review of the movie I said I wanted to love it, but I only liked it. It was too long. It seemed to have had all the pieces of a great movie but they just couldn't seem to put them together in the end. Perhaps a piece or two was missing. Maybe if they started putting some flashback scenes in there earlier that were quite normal and you were able to delve more into his gradual descent into insanity through his perception of past events it would have been the missing piece?

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Passengers was on one ship, with 2 characters, although it was a huge craft, with many sets.
Castaway might qualify, although starting off on a runway and in a plane.



I'm not familiar with Passengers. Castaway could probably fit.

I think the PERFECT diorama movie is hard to accomplish. There usually has to be some sort of establishing shots at some point. The movie Devil doesn't start with everyone in the elevator and focus only on the elevator the entire movie. Circle starts with everyone in one room and except for the last minute or so that is the focus of the entire movie.

Locke might be the only "perfect" diorama movie that i know... but then again, the complaint that I had about all the establishing shots outside of the bus on Speed is something Locke is guilty of too. The only visible acting taking place on Locke is the titular character talking on the phone to voices coming from the other end of his bluetooth radio the entire movie, but to break up the monotony of just one man acting in a car there are cuts to overhead scenes, filmed by helicopter or drone, of his car driving down the expressway. (And let's be real here... It's very likely not even shots of Tom Hardy driving a car.).




Maybe there needs to be some hard rules and soft rules made for the genre. Or like I suggested before several sub-categories for the genre. Because even in movies that I personally think are similarly great fits for the Diorama Movie label, they each have unique quirks that could qualify or disqualify other movies. And my opinion on these could be different than you opinions on them.

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Friday, August 18, 2023 5:36 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Speed had early scenes at the High Rise Elevator rescue, then the Electrical Room, then at the villain's house, before Annie got on the bus.
While the bus circle the airport runway, they tracked down the villain elsewhere.



I was conjuring that you might fill me in with the criteria you envisioned for this category.

What rules make it the diorama film which you envisioned? What exceptions are allowable? How many exceptions?

Even panic Room started elsewhere.

The Outfit is currently the only one I can recall which was completely in on set - although there was more than one room, the door was almost always open from the filmed scene to the other room, in the background.

So, what way you?


That is the reason I have not listed any films. Waiting to iron out the criteria. Or the sub-criteria.

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Friday, August 18, 2023 7:53 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Speed had early scenes at the High Rise Elevator rescue, then the Electrical Room, then at the villain's house, before Annie got on the bus.
While the bus circle the airport runway, they tracked down the villain elsewhere.



Yeah. It's been a very long time since I saw that movie. I don't remember the setup, but I do remember a lot of scenes outside of the bus with the cops and with Dennis Hopper. It really doesn't qualify at all.


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I was conjuring that you might fill me in with the criteria you envisioned for this category.

What rules make it the diorama film which you envisioned? What exceptions are allowable? How many exceptions?

Even panic Room started elsewhere.

The Outfit is currently the only one I can recall which was completely in on set - although there was more than one room, the door was almost always open from the filmed scene to the other room, in the background.

So, what way you?


That is the reason I have not listed any films. Waiting to iron out the criteria. Or the sub-criteria.




Maybe the first thing that we'd have to do is establish a hard percentage threshold for the diorama compared to the entire movie? That would obviously take some work to do, involving timing how much takes place in the single spot compared to whatever time is taken to establish that premise, and then how much time was taken up at the end of the movie after the diorama portion is ended.

I'm not familiar with some of the movies that you've seen, such as The Outfit. I've never actually seen Panic Room either, believe it or not.

Really, Locke is probably the perfect diorama movie. There was no outside of the car establishing scenes, and there were no scenes at the end of the movie where he got out of his car either. The movie ends rather abruptly toward the end of his journey with you left to make what you wanted to out of the story. Aside from those inconsequential drone/helicopter shots to break up the scenes, everything is inside of that car.

Circle would be a close 2nd to that since from the beginning everything takes place in a single room and it's only for maybe a minute or two at the very end that you see outside of that room.

Come to think of it, if you haven't seen Circle, a movie starring Mary Elizabeth Winstead called 10 Cloverfield Lane is VERY similar to Circle in that regard and would make a great diorama movie. (We may have even talked about it before... I don't remember now). I figure you've probably seen that because Winstead was in it. There is a scene or two during the middle of film where you see outside the spot, but those shots were really just a means to scare the people inside to stay inside... and the movie ended with a couple of minutes that were tacked on at the end with reshoots to make it a Cloverfield property when it wasn't originally filmed as one, but I'd certainly say that it has more than enough of the percentage of the movie in the diorama setting to qualify.

Again... It's a big bunker with many different rooms. But it does have the paranoia and claustrophobia qualities that can often be associated with these types of movies.



I think also that once the diorama premise has been established, it's important to make no break from that, or limit it to as few breaks as possible.

If memory serves, Devil takes a little while to establish the premise of these people trapped in an elevator together, but most of the movie takes place there once it's established. There are scenes where they cut away to people outside of the elevator trying to help them though. Maybe this is where a hard line would need to be made for a sub-category of a diorama movie?



I'm almost half-tempted to make The Thing a part of this in a sub-category too. Sure... They're on a large base with disconnected buildings in the middle of the Antarctic, but it's the poster child movie for paranoia and clostrophobia with the shapeshifting aliens and the brutal weather outside coupled with the fact that they're all stuck there with nowhere else to go. The closest thing they had was the relatively close Sweedish base, but that's where the problem came from and you know by the end of the flick that they're probably all dead.

So... Many different rooms inside of a few different buildings, but once the scene is established they've got plenty of room to move around but nowhere to actually go.

I don't know. What do you think?

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Saturday, August 19, 2023 4:40 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


You got me. 10 Cloverfield Lane was on my list, but I have not posted that yet - my list has been scattered.

I have not seen Circle.
You really should see The Outfit. A really good film, and fits in this category. The most qualified to fit here that I can recall.


OK, criteria.
What is it that you consider the point, the purpose, the novelty to identify a diorama film? I don't think i have understood what yoou are thinking.

I'll propose a few possibilities.

Type 1: Setting. There is only one set, only one set needed to be constructed. The film could have merely been an intimate filming of a play on a single-set stage.

Type 2: One Actor. One actor is expected to carry the entire film. We should limit the settings to be more than half* of the film is in one setting.
* - or 3/4, or "vast majority" - or what other criteria?

Type 3: Isolation. The film events are isolated from larger society, civilization, etc.

Type 4: Perspective. The audience is not omniscient, but only knows what the main character knows, or shares with, the audience (whether true/accurate or not). Entirely through the character's eyes, viewpoint, perspective, experience. From the inside looking out. Panic room included scenes outside, but only viewed through the monitor inside the Panic Room. Similar for Inside Man (Clive Owen)


Other Types: ????



Type 1 would be the strictly one-setting type. I think of The Outfit.

Type 2 might include that Inside that you mentioned.

Type 3 might be like The Thing, most films on board a spaceship (Star Trek: The Motion Picture), Alien, Shining, 10 Cloverfield Lane,

Type 4 Could allow for multiple settings used in flashbacks, for instance? Firefly Episode Out of Gas might be included here. Forrest Gump - entirely through his perspective, except scenes of mom/school administrator, and Bear Bryant/Football Coach.
Maybe Pan's Labyrinth?



Other films to consider:
Firefly episodes Our Mrs. Reynolds, Objects In Space.
Never Cry Wolf.
Die Hard.
Jeremiah Johnson/Grizzly Adams.
Inferno.
Tarzan (isolated in jungle)
Cabin In the Woods.
Knock at the Cabin.
Airplane
Event Horizon
Interstellar
Mars - with Matt Damon
Identity
That other motel psycho film
Home Alone
Titanic
Saw
Hostel

Theoriginal Star Trek, to save money, every other episode was only on the ship, then others could leave the ship, be on some planet.

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Saturday, August 19, 2023 8:58 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I've got to think on this for a while and mull over your last post.

I feel like we may be making it too broad a category here. It's the whole "slippery slope" effect. I almost made a joke about it being 6 Degrees to Kevin Bacon the other day.

I think you could probably logic your way into counting half of the films ever made into this category and sub-categories by justifying one more thing to get another movie in there that ends up letting another dozen movies in there that probably shouldn't be.

I think it should be a very exclusive category of movie. One where if it ever became part of the vernacular, the type of movie that some might even strive to make. That would be a great outcome, because when done correctly they rank highly among my favorite films of all time.


I think our problem here is that we have very little overlap in movies we think are diorama movies that we've both seen. Perhaps the only one that we've both seen is 10 Cloverfield Lane. And I do need to state that I believe that's absolutely a Diorama Movie.


I'll tell you what... I know you haven't liked my movie suggestions before, but maybe we need to watch some of the movies we've both mentioned here. I'm going to try to watch both The Outfit and Panic Room in, say... the next week or two. Maybe you should try watching Devil, Circle and/or Locke in that time as well.





Some thoughts about movies you've listed (I'll just flat out state I haven't seen it if that's the case):

Firefly Episode Out of Gas. Firefly episodes Our Mrs. Reynolds, Objects In Space.
- It's been so long since I actually have seen Firefly that I can't comment on this. But in my head none of the episodes of the show would qualify without a rewatch.

Forrest Gump - entirely through his perspective, except scenes of mom/school administrator, and Bear Bryant/Football Coach. - No. I don't think Forrest Gump qualifies at all. The only somewhat similar flick I can think of that could possibly fit a Diorama Movie would be The Truman Show, since Truman's entire life had literally been a set designed for a TV show revolving completely around him. But to me, that's a stretch because they could have made the movie much different than they did. Perhaps if we were to make it halfway through the movie and only learn that he was on a set in a TV show when he finally figured it out I think that would qualify... But they ruined that surprise during the opening credits of the movie. I always resented the way that film was presented because of that. It would have been a much better film if we weren't let in on the secret so early.

Maybe Pan's Labyrinth? - I've never seen this.

Never Cry Wolf. - I've never seen this.

Die Hard. - I don't consider this one. It's hard to verbalize exactly why though.

Jeremiah Johnson/Grizzly Adams. - I've never seen this.

Inferno. - I've never seen this.

Tarzan (isolated in jungle) - I've never seen this, but I don't think it would qualify. If you added this, than you'd have to add Predator (and maybe Rambo) to the list especially because of the paranoia aspect, but I don't consider Preadator or Rambo Diorama Movies.

Cabin In the Woods. - Maybe? But there is a large buildup to the cabin, a lot of stuff later in the movie that takes place outside of the cabin or beneath it, and tons of action happening outside of it by the watchers during the movie. I think if it were done more from the eyes of the people going through the ordeal instead of us being almost omnicient and seeing how the Cabin events were taking place all over the world to "feed" the "Elder Gods" than it could be.

Knock at the Cabin. - I've never seen this.

Airplane - Boy... I really hate parody movies. I mean I REALLY hate parody movies. And I know this one is the king as well as the Naked Gun movies, and I actually liked them when I was a kid, but I find them unwatchable now. As much as I'd love to say no to this just because of that, I probably can't. But the silliness of it all removes any sense of tension or paranoia that the movie would have had otherwise.

I think the Twilight Zone episode (William Schatner) and 1/4 of the Twilight Zone movie (John Lithgow) with the gremlin on the plane wing fit the Diorama Movie a lot better than Airplane does. Because of the tension.

Event Horizon - This is one of the ones that might have to fit, simply to get others to fit. In my mind, this doesn't "feel" like a Diorama Movie... probably just by the sheer size of the craft. But they are trapped in space and there's plenty of tension. I think this is one type of sub-category in the making here. I've never been a fan of underwater movies outside of The Abyss, but there probably could be a sub-category that included space and submersibles. I've never seen Das Boot or The Hunt for Red October, but those movies might also fit in this category.

Interstellar - I don't believe I've ever seen this.

Mars - with Matt Damon - I don't believe I've ever seen this.

Identity - I don't believe I've ever seen this.

That other motel psycho film - I've never seen this.

Home Alone - No. I don't think this one fits.

Titanic - Maybe?

Saw - I've never seen this.

Hostel - I've never seen this.

Theoriginal Star Trek, to save money, every other episode was only on the ship, then others could leave the ship, be on some planet.

I think for now we'd be better off just leaving it to movies and not pulling TV episodes into the mix, since we've got a pretty big job ahead of us here already. That being said, I never felt like any Star Trek was a Diorama. Not even my favorite show Deep Space Nine where they "Boldly choose to stay at home". Outside of rare occurences on certain episodes, you never get the feeling that anybody is trapped there, and they're certainly not there against their own free will. The ships/stations are huge too.

Well... I thought about it more today than I thought I was going to. Maybe you can watch a few of my suggestions and I'll watch a few of yours so maybe we get more of an understanding.

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Monday, August 21, 2023 8:44 PM

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I was surprised to see you mention Twilight Zone with Shatner, because I had not posted that in time.
My other TZ episode was with Burgess Meredith, as the Librarian.

The reason I mention TV shows, such as Firefly, is not to include them as films, but to help iron out the various rules, qualifications, of different works. Serenity had many parts of the ship, but was much smaller than Enterprise.

Objects in Space was all on Serenity, other than Jubal's ship just nearby.

Our Mrs. Reynolds was almost all on Serenity, other than the opening on Triumph where Mal got drunk and married. And then the zapper ring, and then the cottage where Saffron was hiding out.

Out of Gas was entirely on Serenity, IIRC, with only flashbacks showing other settings.


I will not be able to watch new films anytime soon, but I don't mind if you expand your viewing.

I had meant to suggest claustophobia as a sub-category.

More films to consider:

Open Water - alone in shark infested waters
Deep Blue Sea isolated under sea
Bad Times at the El Royale - all at the Motel.
USS Indianapolis? Alone in the ocean
Alive - alone on the mountain, after the crash.
Titanic - mostly on the ship
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea Isolated under sea
S.F.W. - stuck inside the store, almost the whole film.
Inside Man - Clive Owen - all inside the bank, other than monitor views of the outside?
The Belko Experiment - stuck in one building

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Wednesday, August 23, 2023 12:08 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I was surprised to see you mention Twilight Zone with Shatner, because I had not posted that in time.
My other TZ episode was with Burgess Meredith, as the Librarian.

The reason I mention TV shows, such as Firefly, is not to include them as films, but to help iron out the various rules, qualifications, of different works. Serenity had many parts of the ship, but was much smaller than Enterprise.

Objects in Space was all on Serenity, other than Jubal's ship just nearby.

Our Mrs. Reynolds was almost all on Serenity, other than the opening on Triumph where Mal got drunk and married. And then the zapper ring, and then the cottage where Saffron was hiding out.

Out of Gas was entirely on Serenity, IIRC, with only flashbacks showing other settings.


I will not be able to watch new films anytime soon, but I don't mind if you expand your viewing.

I had meant to suggest claustophobia as a sub-category.

More films to consider:

Open Water - alone in shark infested waters
Deep Blue Sea isolated under sea
Bad Times at the El Royale - all at the Motel.
USS Indianapolis? Alone in the ocean
Alive - alone on the mountain, after the crash.
Titanic - mostly on the ship
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea Isolated under sea
S.F.W. - stuck inside the store, almost the whole film.
Inside Man - Clive Owen - all inside the bank, other than monitor views of the outside?
The Belko Experiment - stuck in one building





Yeah... I don't know about Firefly. As I mentioned before... though not necessary, I think that the feeling of claustrophobia, dread and/or the inability to escape the "container", particularly with sci-fi stuff really seems to play a part with this. At least in my mind. I never got that vibe at all with Firefly. Maybe that Jubal episode... I dunno. I think the characters were just so damn well written that even when in danger you felt like you were among friends.

I don't know about The Librarian either, but that was a great episode.


I didn't even realize you had posted back here until just now. I was just coming in to say that my feeling on the whole Diorama Movie genre is that it should probably be exclusive enough where no more than about 50 movies from say, the early 80's until today are even included in it. It really is a niche category.

I say from the 80's onward because most "play" movies were done before this when budgets weren't out of control. I mean, 12 Angry Men was an excellent movie, but I would in no way say that it qualified as a Diorama Movie.

I don't know if you feel that a 50 limit cap would help or hinder the progress here.






Bad Times at the El Royale - all at the Motel. - Not sure... I really loved Tarintino's Four Rooms which all happened in a motel, but I don't consider it a Diorama Movie.

Alive - alone on the mountain, after the crash. - Eeeeeeeh... Not sure about this one either. There's probably 100 movies where people are stranded out in the wild that would be included if we added this one. I loved the first half of The Descent before I realized that it was just a stupid monster movie after the halfway point. I'm claustrophobic, and that movie was pushing all the right buttons for me until the monsters showed up. But I don't consider that a Diorama Movie.



Open Water - alone in shark infested waters
Deep Blue Sea isolated under sea
USS Indianapolis? Alone in the ocean
Titanic - mostly on the ship
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea Isolated under sea

I've mentioned similar movies like these before too. Das Boot and Hunt For Red October. Again, you could probably add 100 more movies if we added these.



S.F.W. - stuck inside the store, almost the whole film.
Inside Man - Clive Owen - all inside the bank, other than monitor views of the outside?
The Belko Experiment - stuck in one building

I'd probably have to see these to have an opinion. I don't consider Die Hard a Diorama Movie.

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Wednesday, August 23, 2023 7:25 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Other films
U-571 (2000)
Poseidon Adventure
Crimson Tide
Mission of the Shark: The Saga of the USS Indianapolis - was the name I tried to recall before.





I have no idea what Hunt For Red October is doing in your suggestions.
Did you feel claustrophobic, or isolation?
Like when he was home in England?
Like on the 747 from England to Virginia?
At the CIA?
At the Naval Academy?
In the basement of the White House?
In the Kremlin?
With the Russian crew in the Red October?
In the USS Dallas?
In the Kasparov?
In the cargo plane?
On the Aircraft Carrier (a floating city of about 6,000 - in a 10 story vessel)?
In the helicopter?
With the American crew in the Red October?
In the 747 back to England?
What part of this film was a diorama?

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Wednesday, August 23, 2023 7:39 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I will try to put together a list so far, for discussion.

The Outfit
Circle
Devil
Phone Booth
Inside
Locke
Cube
Compliance
Alien
The Interview with Hugo Weaving
Nefarious
The Mist
Inception
Passengers
Castaway
panic Room
10 Cloverfield Lane
The Thing
Shining,
Forrest Gump
Maybe Pan's Labyrinth?
Never Cry Wolf.
Die Hard.
Jeremiah Johnson/Grizzly Adams.
Inferno.
Tarzan (isolated in jungle)
Cabin In the Woods.
Knock at the Cabin.
Airplane
Event Horizon
Interstellar
Mars - with Matt Damon
Identity
Home Alone
Titanic
Saw
Hostel
The Truman Show
Event Horizon
Das Boot
Open Water
Deep Blue Sea
Bad Times at the El Royale
USS Indianapolis?
Alive
Titanic
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
S.F.W.
Inside Man - Clive Owen
The Belko Experiment
U-571 (2000)
Poseidon Adventure
Crimson Tide
Mission of the Shark: The Saga of the USS Indianapolis - was the name I tried to recall before.

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Wednesday, August 23, 2023 9:30 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


My bad on Hunt for Red October. I've never seen it. I thought they were in the sub the whole time.

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Thursday, August 24, 2023 8:10 PM

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I was thinking maybe Retribution, opening this weekend, might be a diorama film.

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