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"The Orville" new SciFi on FOX

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Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:12 AM

MOOSE




I'm not much of a MacFarlane fan, but I do like Favreau's stuff.

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Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:55 PM

THGRRI


It looks great. Thanks for the update Moose.






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Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:28 PM

RIVERLOVE


Well I'm hooked. Reminds me of Galaxy Quest. Great cast, great potential, perfect for Fox to screw up and cancel. #here_we_go_again

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Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:51 PM

MOOSE


Yeah, that was my first thought when I saw it was FOX.
I guess we'll see.

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Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:09 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Is that one a Kitty Hawk Class?

Other than McFarlane, looks good. Only one episode from Favreau (Zathura, Deep Impact), but the ladies from SHIELD and Castle add to the lure. And some other model-type seems to have dyed her hair dark - always a promising sign. Norm MacDonald is fine with me, also.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5691552/fullcredits?ref_=tt_ql_1


Has anybody seen "Before I Fall" yet?

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Monday, September 11, 2017 7:36 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Pilot directed by Jon Favreau, good call. But all of the cartoon graphics seem goofy - not as good as Last Action Hero.

Maybe they coulda made the boat a little more palatial - there may have been one or 2 rooms where the entire crew might not have fit in.
I was hoping for something less sophomoric. Even a wonderful director couldn't save it.

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Tuesday, September 12, 2017 6:04 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Close your eyes and imagine Family Guy's Brian the dog talking, and the two shows are interchangeable. Some of the same sorts of gags and joke set ups.

Seriously, it reminded me of Galaxy Quest, if it were set in its own world.

Also, in 400+ years, we've not only traversed the galaxy, but have met new life forms and intelligent species, peacefully integrated with them, not all of them humanoid, to such a level as to have them serve on our ships.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Tuesday, September 12, 2017 2:17 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Close your eyes and imagine Family Guy's Brian the dog talking, and the two shows are interchangeable. Some of the same sorts of gags and joke set ups.

Seriously, it reminded me of Galaxy Quest, if it were set in its own world.

Also, in 400+ years, we've not only traversed the galaxy, but have met new life forms and intelligent species, peacefully integrated with them, not all of them humanoid, to such a level as to have them serve on our ships.

OK. I didn't know it was just Family Guy with different clothes. Hadn't seen that info before, now I can just avoid it. What a relief.

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Tuesday, September 12, 2017 5:53 PM

WHOZIT


I caught it Sunday night, (had to get away from the storm coverage) I thought it was good. I'll check it out again next Sunday, but I'm REALLY looking forward to the return of "Gotham".

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Tuesday, September 12, 2017 6:26 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Seriously, the tired old Star Trek format is the best he can come up with ? And 2 captain's chairs ? Really? One indistinguishable from the other...

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And the fact out of 3,000 ships, his cheating ex-wife is the ONLY person they could come up with as a suitable 1st officer ? The woman who JUSTIFIES her infidelity, and still doesn't back down from the - " Well, if you didn't ignore me so much, I'd not have to whore around ... " as a valid excuse... complete train wreck of a situation.




Punt.

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Tuesday, September 12, 2017 7:01 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Seriously, the tired old Star Trek format is the best he can come up with ? And 2 captain's chairs ? Really? One indistinguishable from the other...

Select to view spoiler:


And the fact out of 3,000 ships, his cheating ex-wife is the ONLY person they could come up with as a suitable 1st officer ? The woman who JUSTIFIES her infidelity, and still doesn't back down from the - " Well, if you didn't ignore me so much, I'd not have to whore around ... " as a valid excuse... complete train wreck of a situation.




Punt.

It drew over 7 million viewers and again will follow football games next Sunday, also the reviewers on YOUTUBE have been giving it high marks...and they hate everything. I think this will find a following, if it hasn't already

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Tuesday, September 12, 2017 8:42 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


As a FG spinoff, they'll need Jean Luc Picard every other episode, right?

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Wednesday, September 13, 2017 6:15 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by WHOZIT:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Seriously, the tired old Star Trek format is the best he can come up with ? And 2 captain's chairs ? Really? One indistinguishable from the other...

Select to view spoiler:


And the fact out of 3,000 ships, his cheating ex-wife is the ONLY person they could come up with as a suitable 1st officer ? The woman who JUSTIFIES her infidelity, and still doesn't back down from the - " Well, if you didn't ignore me so much, I'd not have to whore around ... " as a valid excuse... complete train wreck of a situation.




Punt.

It drew over 7 million viewers and again will follow football games next Sunday, also the reviewers on YOUTUBE have been giving it high marks...and they hate everything. I think this will find a following, if it hasn't already



Update, ratings have been adjusted up to now over 8 million viewers.

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Wednesday, September 13, 2017 7:35 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Maybe they coulda made the boat a little more palatial - there may have been one or 2 rooms where the entire crew might not have fit in.

I'm wondering if one gag might be each week the palatial size of each ship scene grows larger, perhaps a football field sized room for each crewmember.

Perhaps somebody who will watch it can let me know if that happens.

Maybe also whoever is driving, steering, or navigating can do so while looking in the opposite direction and chatting amiably about unrelated topics.

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Wednesday, September 13, 2017 10:43 PM

MOOSE


Promo for ep2


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Thursday, September 14, 2017 9:06 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



I'm sorry, but I refuse to " like " any FOX t.v. show set 500 years in the future of a rag-tag crew on a space ship and their struggle to face new adventures in the universe while trying to balance their interpersonal feelings with each other.

Again.


Just too soon.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Thursday, September 14, 2017 10:17 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
I'm sorry, but I refuse to " like " any FOX t.v. show set 500 years in the future of a rag-tag crew on a space ship and their struggle to face new adventures in the universe while trying to balance their interpersonal feelings with each other.

Again.


Just too soon.

Orville is only 400 years in the future.
Not in the same ballpark, league, or dimension as Firefly.

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Friday, September 15, 2017 6:33 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
I'm sorry, but I refuse to " like " any FOX t.v. show set 500 years in the future of a rag-tag crew on a space ship and their struggle to face new adventures in the universe while trying to balance their interpersonal feelings with each other.

Again.


Just too soon.

Orville is only 400 years in the future.
Not in the same ballpark, league, or dimension as Firefly.



Well they do have a funny wisecracking pilot and a brilliant doctor who doesn't seem to belong there....hmmm

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Friday, September 15, 2017 8:00 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
I'm sorry, but I refuse to " like " any FOX t.v. show set 500 years in the future of a rag-tag crew on a space ship and their struggle to face new adventures in the universe while trying to balance their interpersonal feelings with each other.

Again.


Just too soon.

Orville is only 400 years in the future.
Not in the same ballpark, league, or dimension as Firefly.



1 It's FOX

2 It's about a space ship , set hundreds of years in the future.

3 It's FOX...

The ex-wife is kinda hot and the 2 pilots are kinda funny. So far, they're the best thing on the show.


Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Friday, September 15, 2017 8:48 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
I'm sorry, but I refuse to " like " any FOX t.v. show set 500 years in the future of a rag-tag crew on a space ship and their struggle to face new adventures in the universe while trying to balance their interpersonal feelings with each other.

Again.

Just too soon.

Orville is only 400 years in the future.
Not in the same ballpark, league, or dimension as Firefly.


1 It's FOX

2 It's about a space ship , set hundreds of years in the future.

3 It's FOX...

The ex-wife is kinda hot and the 2 pilots are kinda funny. So far, they're the best thing on the show.

The whore is like Adriana, only heavier. The friend of the Skipper is the Pilot, right? Couldn't tell if the seatmate was Navigator, Flight Engineer, or what. Maybe everybody on the Bridge was a Pilot.

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Friday, September 15, 2017 9:39 PM

MOOSE


Skipper's bud is the Helmsman, soda dude is Navigator.

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Saturday, September 16, 2017 10:10 AM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by Moose:
Skipper's bud is the Helmsman, soda dude is Navigator.



I wonder what the talking blob does on board?

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Saturday, September 16, 2017 11:05 AM

RIVERLOVE


I'm not very enthusiastic about the show.

- Not sure what this show is trying to be.

- Characters and dialogue seem wooden and stiff.

- If it's supposed to be funny, it's not.

So right now I'd have to say the show is stupid and boring.

BUT .... its only been one episode. I saw a few things that maybe perhaps give signs it may have potential. Have to see a few more shows before its fate is decided in my household.

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Saturday, September 16, 2017 11:16 AM

RIVERLOVE


Quote:

Originally posted by WHOZIT:

I wonder what the talking blob does on board?



Hands out the Mucinex?


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Saturday, September 16, 2017 2:05 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by WHOZIT:
Quote:

Originally posted by Moose:
Skipper's bud is the Helmsman, soda dude is Navigator.


I wonder what the talking blob does on board?

Maybe Janitor. Or Chess Master.

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Sunday, September 17, 2017 2:26 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:
I'm not very enthusiastic about the show.

- Not sure what this show is trying to be.

- Characters and dialogue seem wooden and stiff.

- If it's supposed to be funny, it's not.

So right now I'd have to say the show is stupid and boring.

BUT .... its only been one episode. I saw a few things that maybe perhaps give signs it may have potential. Have to see a few more shows before its fate is decided in my household.



Yeah, pretty much this. The " humor " is too wooden, set up and obvious. As I said, it's like listening to an episode of Family Guy.

Also, we're suppose to believe that a captain gets assigned to a ship, that he's never even read up on what it looks like or knows the specs or capabilities of the ship before he lays eyes on it for the first time ?

I'd have thought there'd be some sort of ' Welcome to the Orville ' reading material they'd have given him... Oh well.

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Sunday, September 17, 2017 4:44 PM

RIVERLOVE


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
The " humor " is too wooden, set up and obvious. As I said, it's like listening to an episode of Family Guy.


That's probably why the idiot execs at Fox love it so much. Seth McFarlane is as stiff and unfunny as they come. I remember when he completely bombed as host for the Oscars. It was painful to watch.

Quote:

Also, we're suppose to believe that a captain gets assigned to a ship, that he's never even read up on what it looks like or knows the specs or capabilities of the ship before he lays eyes on it for the first time ?

Maybe one day an adversary, like say Sarris, will challenge his knowledge of the ship, and he'll have to shout out "I'm not the Captain!"

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Sunday, September 17, 2017 10:15 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



The Federation Starship template for the ship design is what it is, I guess.

2nd episode a bit too preachy. Now ' zoos ' are evil archaic throw backs to when humans were brutal, backwards and still not ' woke ' ?

Good grief.

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Monday, September 18, 2017 6:50 AM

MOOSE


Quote:

Also, we're suppose to believe that a captain gets assigned to a ship, that he's never even read up on what it looks like or knows the specs or capabilities of the ship before he lays eyes on it for the first time ?

I'd have thought there'd be some sort of ' Welcome to the Orville ' reading material they'd have given him... Oh well.



I find that easier to believe than "hey, let's make the guy that we were about to expel from the Academy the Captain of our fleet's Flagship! All these other folks with earned rank and experience after years of service that are lined up for a command? Meh, screw 'em. This dude survived a mission! We can waive all the training requirements."

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Tuesday, September 19, 2017 10:32 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Moose:
Quote:

Also, we're suppose to believe that a captain gets assigned to a ship, that he's never even read up on what it looks like or knows the specs or capabilities of the ship before he lays eyes on it for the first time ?

I'd have thought there'd be some sort of ' Welcome to the Orville ' reading material they'd have given him... Oh well.



I find that easier to believe than "hey, let's make the guy that we were about to expel from the Academy the Captain of our fleet's Flagship! All these other folks with earned rank and experience after years of service that are lined up for a command? Meh, screw 'em. This dude survived a mission! We can waive all the training requirements."



Are you referring to Kirk and the Kobayashi Maru ? Because as I recall, he didn't technically get caught, because they didn't know how he changed the rules... or am I wrong about that ?

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Saturday, September 30, 2017 1:28 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by Moose:


I'm not much of a MacFarlane fan, but I do like Favreau's stuff.




I finally got a minute to watch it. You can tell that MacFarlane is used to voice acting still. There are moments where you can see him visually struggle with body position and facial expressions. Some of the other actors are wooden as hell and having trouble finding any character personality.

And tiny girl security chief, yeah, if she came from high gravity she would be short AND built like a body builder. I would have an easier time believing a bodybuilding little person than zero muscle chick.

I like some of the jokes, like his conversation with his "parents" and Kermit. I like that it feels more like people on a ship would feel, than androids on a ship. The Star Trek TNG movies were moving in that direction.

It's got potential. Imma see where it goes.

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Saturday, September 30, 2017 1:58 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Star Trek Discovery captain dares fans NOT to watch ?



Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Saturday, September 30, 2017 2:37 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


I would like to watch Discovery, but I'm not gonna pay, neither are a lot of people. I might do the all-access trial next year when I run out of things to watch.

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Saturday, September 30, 2017 3:03 PM

MOOSE


Dares me not to watch?

Ok. Done.

The Orville is actually satisfying my Trek urge pretty well.

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Sunday, October 1, 2017 1:30 AM

6STRINGJOKER


So is this any good? I never even heard about this show until yesterday.

Saw a review about the unfortunately titled STD that kind of slammed it because it's all LASERS AND EXPLOSIONS and WAR, when Trek used to be about hope for the future and unity and the evolution of mankind.

They had mentioned that they're probably just going to watch Orville instead. From what I'm seeing here, Orville is no DS9.

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Sunday, October 1, 2017 7:35 AM

MOOSE


It's more TOS and TNG, with humor mixed in.
I'm not going to say it's great, but it does capture the early Trek "spirit", and it has been relatively entertaining so far.

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Sunday, October 1, 2017 4:17 PM

6STRINGJOKER


I've never been a huge Trek fan, although I didn't mind TNG and Voyager and even Eneterprise, although that last one just got boring to me after a while. I never really liked the movies all that much either.

I don't know what it was about DS9 though. I really enjoyed that show, like, a LOT. I think it had the most compelling and likable characters of all of the Trek universe.

I'll have to give Orville a chance.

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Sunday, October 1, 2017 5:12 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
So is this any good? I never even heard about this show until yesterday.

Saw a review about the unfortunately titled STD that kind of slammed it because it's all LASERS AND EXPLOSIONS and WAR, when Trek used to be about hope for the future and unity and the evolution of mankind.

They had mentioned that they're probably just going to watch Orville instead. From what I'm seeing here, Orville is no DS9.

This thread is 5 months old, not 2 days.
Do you ignore us outside RWED?

I thought Galaxy Quest was the better comparison, but Orville doesn't come close.

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Sunday, October 1, 2017 5:28 PM

RIVERLOVE


I've been watching. I thought the first few episodes were pretty lame, but last week's episode with the big ship harboring an internal habitat with a centuries-old civilization was quite good. Reminded me of "The Starlost" series, and also Star Trek's "For The World Is Hollow And I Have Touched The Sky" episode. I hope this improving trend continues.

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Sunday, October 1, 2017 6:13 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
This thread is 5 months old, not 2 days.
Do you ignore us outside RWED?

I thought Galaxy Quest was the better comparison, but Orville doesn't come close.



LOL... I guess I'm branching out. I never posted in the Sci-Fi forum until a few days ago. Never posted in the Cinema forum until a few months ago.

Pretty much just came here for the RWED all these years.


Shame that Orville doesn't come close to Galaxy Quest. I was kind of hoping it would.

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Sunday, October 1, 2017 8:48 PM

MOOSE


Comparing it to Galaxy Quest isn't quite fair, since that's more of a parody.
The Orville is pretty much a humorous Star Trek without the title.

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Sunday, October 1, 2017 11:49 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Moose:
Comparing it to Galaxy Quest isn't quite fair, since that's more of a parody.
The Orville is pretty much a humorous Star Trek without the title.

You're saying Orville is a parody, or isn't?

Galaxy Quest was an excellent SciFi story with great adventure, thrilling heroics, awe of discovery, wonderful humor, and even a little romance. All in context, continuity, and logical story.
Possibly the convention was a parody of Trekkies, tho it seemed on the money.
But TV Show Galaxy Quest was not a parody, that I could tell, and the film was not a parody of any other film.

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Sunday, October 1, 2017 11:54 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
This thread is 5 months old, not 2 days.
Do you ignore us outside RWED?

I thought Galaxy Quest was the better comparison, but Orville doesn't come close.


LOL... I guess I'm branching out. I never posted in the Sci-Fi forum until a few days ago. Never posted in the Cinema forum until a few months ago.

Pretty much just came here for the RWED all these years.


Shame that Orville doesn't come close to Galaxy Quest. I was kind of hoping it would.

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Monday, October 2, 2017 4:05 AM

6STRINGJOKER


lol. Thanks!

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Monday, October 2, 2017 4:08 AM

6STRINGJOKER


Yeah. Galaxy Quest was way too good to be a parody.

Parody movies might have been decent back in the days of Airplane and even as far as Hot Shots, but since then they've devolved into the most low brow trash humor in existence. Not even remotely funny or containing any worthwhile content.

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Monday, October 2, 2017 5:32 AM

MOOSE



GQ does poke fun at SciFi in general, with it focusing on Trek, so it is a bit of a parody.
I'm not saying that's a bad thing, in fact if you can find my old posts about GQ you'll see it's one of my favorites.

The Orville isn't a parody AT ALL. It's Star Trek in all but the name with a bit of humor thrown in.

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Monday, October 2, 2017 3:50 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Yeah. I get what you're saying. I wouldn't go out of my way to say that Galaxy Quest was a serious movie, at least on the surface. It was just a lot of fun, but it had all of the elements to make a great movie that no actual parody movie like the Scary Movie franchise or countless Netflix parody movies have.

I'm actually lucky that I saw it. It didn't look like my kind of movie at all from the previews. I just happened to catch it one night back in the dark ages when I had cable TV.


I think you've sold me on Orville though. I'm at least going to give it a shot. STD doesn't look enjoyable at all, so here's hoping that the Orville can be the Trek we're looking for.

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Monday, October 2, 2017 5:28 PM

MOOSE


I initially avoided Galaxy Quest because I wasn't much of a Tim Allen fan, but I eventually broke down and watched it.
I have the DVD and Bluray and have seen it dozens of times by now. I think that Amazon is working on a series.

If you go into The Orville expecting Galaxy Quest, you'll be disappointed.
I think McFarlane describes it as "Trek meets MASH".

BTW, I'm not a fan of Seth but I think he's done pretty good with the show.
It's still not "great", but shows a lot of potential.

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Wednesday, November 8, 2017 1:25 AM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


I just watched last weeks episode, which was pretty much a re-do of a Black Mirror episode and I was about to write off that one, then he made a point about how those videos of soldiers coming home to pets and kids can be a form of manipulative propaganda... I had that conversation the other day with someone who didn't think we still do public propaganda and didn't get why I called them that.

Thanks for that one, MacFarlane!

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Wednesday, November 8, 2017 7:58 PM

WHOZIT


The show has been picked up for a 2nd season

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