THE CAPE

NBC cuts back on order for episodes of 'The Cape'

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Wednesday, February 2, 2011 1:30 AM

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Wednesday, February 2, 2011 2:12 AM

LWAVES


I just read about this and I'm kind of having mixed feelings
With production stopped there will be no chance of any kind of resolution to the story and the chances of it returning are extremely slim with all the bad reviews and bad ratings. This plainly screams cancellation even if they don't announce it yet.

Part of me is disappointed because I was actually liking the show, even though it wasn't brilliant and had several faults, but I felt it had potential. Summer was fine in her role but underused (at least so far). The idea of a cop working with theives was a nice touch but again hadn't been played out much so far.

Another part of me thinks it deserves it because it failed to grasp that potential. It could have been a spin on Batman for TV (and in many ways it was) but it tried to go too light and I felt the humour didn't really work. Some of the plot points were pretty lame as well like when Orwell questioned Flemming on the train and he doesn't realise who she is. He's supposed to be really intelligent but he comes off as a bit slow, especially if she is his daughter as well. I also didn't really feel for Vince. I didn't get his anguish at being torn from his family from either the script or the acting and as this was the main reason behind him becoming The Cape it felt weak.

But, as I say, I was still liking the show. Maybe Summer will finally get a show that lasts next time round.



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Wednesday, February 2, 2011 5:48 AM

ZEEK


Yeah I thought it would have been better if they tried for more of a serious tone. You can still have humor without having to be campy. Seems like a lot of writers don't get that about super hero writing. Can't say I'm really going to miss it.

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Wednesday, February 2, 2011 6:26 AM

KWICKO

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I'm with LWaves - if Orwell is Chess's daughter, how could he NOT recognize her? It always seems odd to me that a superhero can just put on a simple eye-mask (or even GLASSES!) and become unrecognizable to the people who are closest to them.

The Cape's own kid can't recognize him? Really? Nobody's noticed the startling resemblance between Chess and Fleming?

Still, the worst moments for me are the ones between The Cape and his son. Pure cheese and schmaltz, at least in my opinion.

All that aside, though, I still find myself actually liking the show. I don't *love* it, but it's entertaining enough. Above "Heroes", below "Chuck" on the entertainment scale.

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Wednesday, February 2, 2011 12:13 PM

BLUEEYEDBRIGADIER


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
I'm with LWaves - if Orwell is Chess's daughter, how could he NOT recognize her? It always seems odd to me that a superhero can just put on a simple eye-mask (or even GLASSES!) and become unrecognizable to the people who are closest to them.



Maybe it was going to be revealed that Fleming hasn't seen his daughter (Orwell) since she was little, so it's a bit more feasible he wouldn't recognize her. He certainly doesn't have the cliche semi-recent picture of the daughter holding some family pet, smiling at the camera, sitting on his desk or as a hologram.

But the whole situation with Trip not realizing The Cape is his dad was definitely hard to swallow. Hell, David Lyons could have just put on his natural Aussie accent as a disguise, for frak's sake...though then they would have to explain how Vince could do that

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Wednesday, February 2, 2011 1:11 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by BlueEyedBrigadier:

Maybe it was going to be revealed that Fleming hasn't seen his daughter (Orwell) since she was little, so it's a bit more feasible he wouldn't recognize her. He certainly doesn't have the cliche semi-recent picture of the daughter holding some family pet, smiling at the camera, sitting on his desk or as a hologram.



Good point. I'm thinking you should be a writer for that show! (Although there's not much job security there, it seems...)

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Wednesday, February 2, 2011 1:42 PM

ECGORDON

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Quote:

Originally posted by lwaves:
Some of the plot points were pretty lame as well like when Orwell questioned Flemming on the train and he doesn't realise who she is. He's supposed to be really intelligent but he comes off as a bit slow.


He was also slow on the uptake about Dice being the Tracey who was the basis of the research he killed her father for.

I'm not surprised by this move at all. I've watched every ep and was entertained, and I am willing to cut it a lot of slack, but I have to admit they were dropping the ball on nearly every dramatic front.



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Wednesday, February 2, 2011 6:14 PM

TECHTREKKER

My days of takin ya seriously are certainly comin to a middle


Too cheesey of a show. Didn't like it. Never got into it. The villain was not much of a villian. The only thing it had going for it was Summer and her talents were underused.

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Thursday, February 3, 2011 4:26 AM

GWEK


Is it possible to change the title? It's a little mis-leading. I think a lot of people would read it as "NBC cuts THE CAPE from their line-up" (eg, cancels it).

Perhaps "shortens" or "hems"?

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Thursday, February 3, 2011 7:07 AM

STORYMARK


Cutting the order is in all likelihood a precursor to canceling it.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, February 3, 2011 7:23 AM

INVADERPET87


I'm not sure it's ever been confirmed that Trip does or doesn't know The Cape really is his father. I like to believe he's aware, but won't say anything, thinking his mom will think he's traumatized or something.

That said, this show is okay IMO. I just think it moves too slow.

"She understands. She doesn't comprehend."

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Thursday, February 3, 2011 7:45 AM

GWEK


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Cutting the order is in all likelihood a precursor to canceling it.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."



But they are two different things, and the news item quoted is NOT about the show being cancelled.

I still stand by my assertion that the title is misleading (and a quick skim through some of the comments seems to support the potential confusion).

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Thursday, February 3, 2011 7:48 AM

STORYMARK


I fail to see how "cut" in a misleading term, when it's exactly what happened. They cut their order.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, February 3, 2011 7:56 AM

GWEK


Because "NBC cuts THE CAPE" could also just as easily indicate that they cut the series from their line-up... as I already noted.

Just because you're not confused doesn't mean that other people aren't (again, skim some of the comments).

If you don't have anything constructive to add, please don't reply. "My opinion is that your opionion is wrong" is a argument for argument's sake and a waste of both our time and of thread space (especially since my reply was intended for the OP, NOT for someone like you).

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Thursday, February 3, 2011 8:07 AM

STORYMARK


I didn't say your opinion was wrong. And I can post where ever I damned well please - regardless or not someone like you approves. Thanks.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, February 4, 2011 4:32 AM

LWAVES


Quote:

Originally posted by GWEK:
Because "NBC cuts THE CAPE" could also just as easily indicate that they cut the series from their line-up... as I already noted.

Just because you're not confused doesn't mean that other people aren't (again, skim some of the comments).



The thread title is fine IMO and is an accurate term for what has occured, although I get the point that you're making. But if anyone read the title, thought that it meant cancelled and then didn't read any further they would be fools to themselves. It clearly states in the first line of the first post (and the linked article) that episodes have been cut. If it had actually been cancelled then I'm sure the thread title would have stated that.

I've just re-read all the posts and no one is saying that this definitely means cancellation or that it has been cancelled, just that it is highly likely. No one appears confused. Hence the use of the word 'precursor' in Storymark's post. It's the dark cloud and thunder before the rain hits. It's the warning shot across the bow.



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Friday, February 4, 2011 6:41 AM

ZEEK


I'm not confused by the title but I think it's canceled.

I mean it's basically semantics at this point right? Is a person on death row dead if they are out of appeals? Not technically but it's not far off.

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Friday, February 4, 2011 11:30 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


Quote:

Originally posted by lwaves:
I just read about this and I'm kind of having mixed feelings
With production stopped there will be no chance of any kind of resolution to the story and the chances of it returning are extremely slim with all the bad reviews and bad ratings. This plainly screams cancellation even if they don't announce it yet.

Part of me is disappointed because I was actually liking the show, even though it wasn't brilliant and had several faults, but I felt it had potential. Summer was fine in her role but underused (at least so far). The idea of a cop working with theives was a nice touch but again hadn't been played out much so far.

Another part of me thinks it deserves it because it failed to grasp that potential. It could have been a spin on Batman for TV (and in many ways it was) but it tried to go too light and I felt the humour didn't really work. Some of the plot points were pretty lame as well like when Orwell questioned Flemming on the train and he doesn't realise who she is. He's supposed to be really intelligent but he comes off as a bit slow, especially if she is his daughter as well. I also didn't really feel for Vince. I didn't get his anguish at being torn from his family from either the script or the acting and as this was the main reason behind him becoming The Cape it felt weak.

But, as I say, I was still liking the show. Maybe Summer will finally get a show that lasts next time round.



"The greatest invention ever is not the wheel. It's the second wheel." - Rich Hall



I'm with Lwaves too. No real development between the carny/circus people and the Cape. Summer underused and ill conceived. The son, not even a decent actor. Aside from Summer, I really like Keith David as Max and the Cape's wife does a decent job. As far as character development, it seems to me that the writers didn't develop a back-story for the actors to sink their teeth into (sometimes actors do that to get into the character's motivation). I agree that the carny people/cop dynamic would have been interesting in the right hands. I don't think they really know which direction the show should take. Yes, it's a superhero story, but just are they gonna tell it. Pacing, timing, theme and story are critical for a good show. I don't think Mr. Wheeler has quite figured that out. Too bad, it had potential.


SGG

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Sunday, February 6, 2011 7:01 PM

NUTLUCK


Can't say I am surprised I tried to watch this and get into it. I just couldn't, there was just to much bad in it sadly. Sucks for Summer wish she could finally get on a good series and it not get canceled.

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