Possible hijack of this site? by HotForKaylee

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Possible hijack of this site?

POSTED BY: HOTFORKAYLEE
UPDATED: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 17:09
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Saturday, December 21, 2002 10:45 PM

This site has for the most part been pretty friendly since the git. The addition in the last few days of the "official" board members was good news to me and I've always enjoyed Arlo, the more the merrier.

But in the last few days I have seen alot of negatives on this site. Is this maybe somebody trying to sabatoge the show (or the rescue effort) by putting up pointless rants and misinformation in some cases?

If a fan driven board gets taken over by anti-fans (note: I am in no way calling people from the Fox board antifans)(or anyone else),then how does that look to any network that might consider picking it up?

This is FIREFLY country gorramit!!

help.........

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"Engineering, this is General Lefcourt. In case you didn't notice, the enemy just pulled our shorts up over our head and tied them into a knot. You will get the ship under control ASAP, or I will come down there and skin the hide off every last one of you."

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Saturday, December 21, 2002 11:55 PM

SERGEANTX

I'm not sure what's up. This one guy is dropping these huge posts everywhere. Don't respond to him though or you'll get about eight more pages of it.

SergeantX

"..and here's to all the dreamers, may our open hearts find rest." -- Nanci Griffith

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Sunday, December 22, 2002 12:16 AM

SIMONF

I may lurk here a lot but I thought I would de-lurk and say we get this on the Buffy boards a lot. People who purport to be a fan of the show and then totally destroy it in their posts. We called these anti fans bezoars. Best thing is to ignore them.

(This is a great site btw I come here a lot for Firefly info)

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Sunday, December 22, 2002 12:43 AM

HOOK

What the hell is wrong with you people...are you reading the same posts I am....I can understand not agreeing with a person's opinion but this is just dumb and vicious...look no one on this board got the Show canceled...so don't take it out on the people here. we all like the show...we all get different things from that show...and the point of a fan site is to discuss the various opinions we have about the show...if you want to make rude derogatory venomous remarks then go to slashdot they will love you there. If the posts are to long for you or take ideas to places you don't want to go THEN DON'T READ THEM!!

hook

http://diogenes.gotdns.org

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Sunday, December 22, 2002 9:29 AM

SERGEANTX

Thanks for the advice SimonF. These are the same people that did the "Why Firefly Deserves to Die" thread several weeks ago.

SergeantX

"..and here's to all the dreamers, may our open hearts find rest." -- Nanci Griffith

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Sunday, December 22, 2002 11:58 AM

MILLERNATE

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What the hell is wrong with you people...are you reading the same posts I am....I can understand not agreeing with a person's opinion but this is just dumb and vicious

Yes Xed has been dumb and vicious but if you are talking about the replies then you are wrong. Xed has been posting flat out untruths (see his money post for an example) and is doing the critical equivalent of yanking on his

as opposed to doing anything to facilitate an honest exchange of opinions. His posts are all about attacking the show and those who like it under a *very* thin veneer of "honest cricism" (that's a crock if ever there was one). He is also a rhetorical coward, posting responses to people off of another person's posts so that the person cricizing him will not see them (he also *badly* needs to add some space between his paragraphs). The only sensible things to do when confronted with such an individual are to either ignore them or give the son of a

both barales. He is a troll and a liar and if Haken doesn't ban him then I will be leaving, if more people do the same we can get this asshole GONE.

Nathan
"It looks like a great adventure...That's what it is; that's what it feels like. When I saw the pilot, it was really engaging. It was exciting. It was unusual. It threw me off every now and then. I think people will be grabbed by it." - Ron Glass, on the pilot, during an interview with the Indianapolis Star

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Sunday, December 22, 2002 12:12 PM

NOVAGRASS

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Originally posted by millernate:
He is a troll and a liar and if Haken doesn't ban him then I will be leaving, if more people do the same we can get this asshole GONE.

MillerNate, I have the ability to delete/edit posts. In your opinion, would it be appropriate to utilize my forum moderator status to quell XED's rampage? I have had issues with his posts as well, and I am debating if Admin. Action is appropriate in this case.

--Dylan Palmer, Pretentious Bastard at Large--

"Oh my god, I'm a hack!" - Joss Whedon

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Sunday, December 22, 2002 1:06 PM

CHARLIEBLUE

Quote:
Originally posted by Novagrass:
Quote:
Originally posted by millernate:
He is a troll and a liar and if Haken doesn't ban him then I will be leaving, if more people do the same we can get this asshole GONE.

MillerNate, I have the ability to delete/edit posts. In your opinion, would it be appropriate to utilize my forum moderator status to quell XED's rampage? I have had issues with his posts as well, and I am debating if Admin. Action is appropriate in this case.

If I may speak up, would it be possible to send them to Troll Country? It seems like this is the sort of thing it was designed for--people can say whatever inflammatory bullshit they want there without the fans feeling like they have to take it to heart.

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"HoYay! Academy. Where every exam is an oral exam."

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Sunday, December 22, 2002 4:49 PM

HAKEN

Likes to mess with stuffs.

Just say the word and I'll send the thread to Troll Country.

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Sunday, December 22, 2002 8:19 PM

UFO

I haven't noticed anything. Personally I post legitimate gripes about a show I really like. It's not a perfect show. If someone interprets this as "sabotaging the show" then that's just your paranoia kicking in. ;)

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Sunday, December 22, 2002 8:38 PM

HOOK

This is a quote from Simon near the end of the episode safe.

She has done nothing to you. If she dies tonight it won't gods will that killed her, it will be you. Your lunacy, your ignorance.

I am pretty up set with how this whole thing turned out, and with human nature in general.

I can't stay here any longer. It would be against what I belive in, free speech, censorship, mob rule and what not.

So this is goodbye, Haken feel free to delete my login, etc.

I have enjoyed what people had to say here; your opinions, your insights. Haken and others did a great job with the site and I hope the show gets picked up by another network or FOX changes its mind. Anyway I am sorry I can't stay and be apart of this site anymore...principles and all prevent me.

goodbye

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Post-holer; for digging holes for posts.

hook

http://diogenes.gotdns.org

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Sunday, December 22, 2002 10:06 PM

HAKEN

Likes to mess with stuffs.

If you say so. Though, if you take note, XED wasn't censored. Hope you'll re-join us one day.

P.S. FWIW, XED's 4 posts should have been 1 article, which I would have gladly posted as such.

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Sunday, December 22, 2002 10:36 PM

XED

If my posts upset you folks, please allow me to apologize. The early episodes of Firefly had some big problems. After the first 4 or 5 episodes, the show became outstanding. Absolutely first-rate. And I think I've said that.
If it would help smooth things over, feel free to delete my log-in.
I still don't think Firefly was perfect, and I still think the first 3 or 4 episodes had serious problems. The first two episodes in particular struck as just plain poor TV, particularly "Bushwhacked." I also still think the show was the best thing on TV until the troglodytes at Fox yanked it.
As for making those 4 posts into one article...well, some folks already have problems with the length of my posts.

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Sunday, December 22, 2002 11:08 PM

HAKEN

Likes to mess with stuffs.

Quote:
Originally posted by xed:
As for making those 4 posts into one article...well, some folks already have problems with the length of my posts.

I think you misunderstood what I said. I said you should have combined the 4 and submitted it to me as a feature article, which I will then post for you as a Feature Article on the website.

As far as I'm concerned, you make some valid points in your post, which I admit I do agree with to a certain degree, just as there are others that I don't.

In any case, again, as is with Hook, I hope you'll re-join us here one day if you do decide to leave.

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Monday, December 23, 2002 6:57 AM

SILVERADO

Don't forget your free drink on the way out, Hook.

Silverado.

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"You had the law on you, criminals and savages... half the people on the ship have been shot or wounded including yourself, and you're harboring known fugitives."

"We're still flying."

"That's not much."

"It's enough."

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Monday, December 23, 2002 8:31 AM

NOVAGRASS

Quote:
Originally posted by hook:

I am pretty up set with how this whole thing turned out, and with human nature in general.

I can't stay here any longer. It would be against what I belive in, free speech, censorship, mob rule and what not.

Hook, if I may speak bluntly... I think you're over-reacting.

No one has been censored, free speech has not been impeded, etc. Any feelings of such activity are completely imagined on your part. In fact, it seems to me that you are leaving based on disagreement with others' opinions... which is fine, but if this is true, you have no right to judge anyone here.

You may be upset at this point, but please don't judge these forums based on acts that haven't been committed. It's an offense to Haken and all of the forum members.

--Dylan Palmer, Pretentious Bastard at Large--

"Oh my god, I'm a hack!" - Joss Whedon

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Wednesday, December 25, 2002 8:14 AM

DRAUGLUIN

I have to agree with you on this one Haken.

I think Xed made some valid points, though the format was hard to follow as his paragraph structure was lacking.

Personally, I hope he stays. I don't post here a lot, but I have been here longer than any of the other sites that I am now affiliated with.

A rock is like space because it doesn't move.

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Wednesday, December 25, 2002 5:09 PM

HOTFORKAYLEE

Hey,

I never met for this post to cause so much reaction that I wasn't hoping for. I simply enjoy Firefly and see a whole lot of topics we could discuss.

I want info on helping to save the show and don't mind other's opinions on this show or why it failed as long as it is done with thought. Never wanted anyone to be censored or other people p.o.ed to the point they say they will leave. All I was saying is what some others have said here, make your post in a clear manner and have accurate facts then lets discuss.

The whole "This is Firefly country Gorramit!" was stating what my whole post was about. I was glad to see the FOX board members getting on board because a lot of these people have some very good thoughts on the whole dynamic of the show. I would like to see more talk of the episodes and characters.

I agree we need info on helping Joss find a new home but even this gets spread out to more than one thread. Lets be honest, most people come to the (or a) site and look at the recent posts. When half the threads are about saving the show and the other half are why it failed nobody digs any further so the actual show is not talked about and anyone who recently found it and are looking for more info run away.

Like I said, I just wanted to get more discussion about the eps. The FOX board sucks so I only check it out once a week or so and that is why I was hoping we could get more episode threads going here in an easy to locate fashion.

Can't we get along in some reasonable fashion?

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"Every day, here and at home, we are warned about the enemy. But who is the enemy? Is it the alien? Well, we are all alien to one another. Is it the one who believes differently than we do? No, not at all, my friends. The enemy is fear. The enemy is ignorance. The enemy is the one who tells you that you must hate that which is different. Because, in the end, that hate will turn on you. And that same hate will destroy you."

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