'girl's club' cancelled

UPDATED: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 14:11
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Wednesday, October 30, 2002 7:04 AM


I'm no TV exec, but I'd have to believe it WOULD have an effect on Firefly.

That's one hour worth of void into which they have to drop a filler show or mid-season replacement. They'll probably drop Cops or some whatnot in there until they prep a mid-season show.

Logic'd say they'd drop their top filler into that spot. That means that they WOULDN'T have that in pocket to drop on top of Firefly. And FOX, as crazy as they are, wouldn't dump an unsure thing (Firefly) to replace it with an equally unsure thing.

OK -- maybe this is choppy logic -- but it works out in my head, and gives me hope. There are only so many shows they can reasonably cancel and replace per season, and we've already had one fall by the wayside....


Wednesday, October 30, 2002 8:03 AM



Originally posted by MollyBloom:
Fox execs admitted in an article today for Rueter's (can anyone find a link?) that they made a mistake scheduling new dramas (and they mentioned Firefly, John Doe and Fastlane) around the World Series and plan to change how they premiere their shows next fall.

Here's one version of the article from the Hollywood Reporter this morning:

Hollywood Reporter
Net chiefs admit sked mistakes
Oct. 30, 2002

NEW YORK -- Fox made a mistake in previewing several nights of its primetime schedule, only to interrupt its flow with postseason baseball, Fox Broadcasting entertainment president Gail Berman conceded Tuesday. Speaking at an International Radio & Television Society Foundation breakfast in New York with her fellow network chieftains, Berman said Fox will "re-examine how it will roll out" its schedule next year because this year's plan caused "disarray in terms of getting a toehold in those time periods." Fox delayed the debut of its Thursday and Sunday night lineups until after the World Series, but the network introduced some new shows last month, including the heavily promoted dramas "Firefly," "Fastlane" and "John Doe," only to have to pre-empt them for baseball. (Andrew Grossman)

FYI, The girls club's numbers were worse than FF on a share-to-share basis (the only comparison that's not apples to oranges.)

IMO, the cancellation is an OK thing for FF.

On the one hand, it means that Fox has to go to the bench (in the spirit of the baseball mea culpa above) for a replacement and they only have one "midseason" replacement drama, Keen Eddie. Less "subs" = more opportunity for FF to survive.

On the other hand, it goes to show that even the network's favorite drama creator isn't immune to the hook; Fox won't renew the show because it "likes" Joss Whedon.

All in all, the demise of girls club, the slight uptick in the ratings and the three episode script order bode well for FF. (I hope.)



Wednesday, October 30, 2002 8:26 AM



Originally posted by MollyBloom:
I think I'd disagree with you, Malcolm, about Fox willing the axe a show from a 'favorite' creator. I think that Joss's reputation in the media is (currently) much higher than DEK's. Speaking as someone who actually liked DEK before he became a hack, Joss and his shows keep getting more and more creative and daring while DEK's shows have just become shrill and annoying. While I agree that Fox would never keep the show on Joss's reputation alone, they seem to think he's a safer bet than DEK.

Please don't misunderstand me, I think Joss Whedon and DEK are on different planes of creative talent and vision. (I think of DEK as more of a "mudder" and JW as more of a, uh, God.)

I also agree with your characterization of DEK and the media's perception of JW, but I think that it is clear that the Fox network will do exactly as it pleases when it comes to $$$.

Look what they did with shelving the $10 million pilot, which caused all kinds of trouble for the show; bad press, confusion about the story and the characters, not to mention, loads of bad karma for Fox. (Do you think the girls club fiasco resulted entirely from bad writing? )



Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:44 AM


Though Whedon shows have a built-in audience, I don't think anyone disagrees that Firefly needs to grow its audience in order to get consistent positive ratings.
I honestly feel Monday night is a better place to grow an audience than Friday night is. If Fox wants to lure Friday night TV viewers away from "Americas Funniest Videos", the network will need to put something like American Idol 2 in that slot instead of a genre program like Firefly.
Putting Firefly, a strong drama with an excellent ensemble cast, after Boston Public (another strong drama with great acting... some would say) on a night when all potential viewers are home and watching TV just makes better sense to me.
Also, it's a good night to move Firefly to considering Sundays and Tuesdays are out.


Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:00 AM


I read somewhere that a lot of people were just disapointed with Girl's club in general, not only with just how it's ratings were fairing. A lot of people were complaining about it's characters and some of the things they said.


Wednesday, October 30, 2002 2:09 PM


Yeah, but...

...if they move it to Monday nights, it'd go up against new episodes of Stargate: SG1 in January. These two shows draw significantly from the same fan base. I'm thinking FOX is even smart enough to catch that one.

(And I'm selfish. My wife works late, and, with only one 'tape' VCR left in the house, I can only record one show at a time to watch together later. If they move into the same time slot, TiVo here I come...)


Wednesday, October 30, 2002 2:11 PM



...excuse me. I'm an idiot. It'd actually go up against the 4-hour block of Stargate reruns on Sci-Fi if it moved to Monday.