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Bestest superhero/comic book movies of all time

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 4:03 PM

CHRISISALL


My top pick: Superman The Movie.
But Iron Man was absolutely awesome.
Batman Begins was riviting.
Incredible Hulk was truely engaging.
Spider-man was emotionally charged beyond expectation.

What is your favourite?

Or do you dismiss superheroes as being removed from your reality, a figment of the desire to see some sort of messiah rescue us from ourselves? An elusive and unrealistic Neo in our Matrix?


The deep-ish Chrisisall

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 4:11 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Tank Girl.

They somehow managed to stay true to the surreal ridiculousness of the comic, even in a movie medium - not to mention casting Lori Petty as TG and managing to convince L7 to do part of the soundtrack was pure genius.

Ice-T as an ex-cop ripper was comedy gold, too.

-F

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 4:12 PM

CHRISISALL


Yeah, that was great. But if we're going THERE, The Crow was supreme in the dark, indy world IMO.
Then there's Ultraviolet & Immortal. B-coolness.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:37 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Crow.
Batman Begins.
Superman.
Not comic book, but Last Action Hero is one of my faves.
If Col Steve Austin counts as superhero, that's in too. It started as a movie from the Martin Ciadin novel.

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:50 PM

BIGRICHARD


Batman Begins/Dark Knight - Excellent dark takes on Batman. All around brilliant films.
Hellboy - Both films are excellent comedy/action films.
Sin City - Great fun, unique.
Superman the Movie - A classic.
The Crow - only the first one though...
Iron Man - perfect fun filled summer blockbuster.
30 Days of Night - Lots of people disagree, but I really enjoyed this.

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Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:00 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


My top 20


1Oldboy
2A History of Violence
3Ghost World
4Diabolik
5Akira
6Ironman
7Men In Black
8Superman II Donner cut
9Spider-Man 2
10The Crow
11X-Men 2
12From Hell
13Hellboy
14Road to Perdition
15Batman Begins/Dark Knight
16The 300
17Batman Returns
18American Splendor
19Watchmen
20Riki-Oh: The Story of Ricky

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Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:06 AM

BIGRICHARD


I wish to add History of Violence...

good call JaynezTown!

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Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:56 AM

MUTT999


Blade.

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Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:33 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


I was very pleasantly surprised at how well Iron Man was made. When I heard it was coming out, I feared MAJOR flop, mainly because I wasn't sure they'd be able to make the transition and 'update' the character. What a friggin awesome movie.

The first Spiderman was extremely well done as well. Some 'purest' have mentioned having issues w/ how Mary Jane was cast, but I think Kirsten Dunst is a perfect 'girl-next-door' babe.

However, my favorite in all these is X-Men. Such a monumental list of characters and sub plots to deal with, I think what was brought to the screen was fantastic.

Batman gets a definite honorable mention.

The first Superman movie only gets a nod from me because of Gene Hackman's performance.

" Miss TESMACHER !! "





The T.Rex they call JANE!


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Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:33 AM

ZEEK


Ironman and it's not even close. The rest make way too many concessions to be "real worldy". Super heroes are supposed to be over the top out of this world stuff. I think movie goers are cool with it. So, let's just go all out.

I would love to see an X-men reboot where they stay much closer to the comics.

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Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:49 AM

CHRISISALL


OOOoo, Watchmen, and V For Vendetta, while I'm at it.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:37 AM

OPPYH


-Watchmen

-Superman(1978)

-Batman(1989)

-Hellboy

-X2

-Iron Man

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Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:22 AM

STORYMARK


Spider-Man 2
X2
Batman Begins
Hellboy
The Crow
Watchmen


And an honorable mention for a non-superhero comic movie:

A History of Violence

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:42 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
I was very pleasantly surprised at how well Iron Man was made. When I heard it was coming out, I feared MAJOR flop, mainly because I wasn't sure they'd be able to make the transition and 'update' the character. What a friggin awesome movie.


Yanno, that summed up my sentiments on it, too.

I got dragged, cause I wasn't gonna willingly watch another of these horrors, having hated every one so far, particularly the X-men ones...

But yes, they didn't do half bad there, a couple weak spots, but casting Downey as Stark was pure genius since he really has so much of the character in him, and his own best and worst moments have been as public, so his own flaws corresponded and made him absolutely, totally *believable* as Stark.

The only thing even close anywhere else in these Marvel-Movies was J.K. Simmons portrayal of J. Jonah Jameson in Spider-Man, while not an especially major part, he was jaw droppingly perfect on the role.

-F

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Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:48 AM

STORYMARK


I really enjoy Iron Man... but don't consider it that "great". It was proficient, but also extremely predictable and by-the-numbers in terms of the script. Had anyone but Downey Jr. played the part, I don't think it would have worked as well. And he is great in it, but I can't call it a great movie just for one performance.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:21 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Had anyone but Downey Jr. played the part, I don't think it would have worked as well.


Any other actor I can even *think* of would have reduced it to just neat FX and a killer musical score, and that alone wouldn't have made me buy it. I agree that the script was paint-by-numbers, but Downey's little tossed off riffs made it one of the best performances in a superhero movie since Chris Reeve.

Pepper Potts: Is it safe?
Tony Stark: Yeah. It should be fine. It's just like Operation, just don't let it touch the socket or it'll go beep.
Pepper Potts: What do you mean operation?
Tony Stark: It's just a game. Never mind.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:31 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
having hated every one so far, particularly the X-men ones...


I liked the last one best- go figure my twisted little mind.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:39 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:


Any other actor I can even *think* of would have reduced it to just neat FX and a killer musical score, and that alone wouldn't have made me buy it. I agree that the script was paint-by-numbers, but Downey's little tossed off riffs made it one of the best performances in a superhero movie since Chris Reeve.




Your fondness for the score still amazes me, as it seems to be the one thing most film buffs dislike about the movie. Even Favs promised he'd get a better one for the sequel.

Of course, your taste often perplexes me.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:43 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:

Your fondness for the score still amazes me, as it seems to be the one thing most film buffs dislike about the movie. Even Favs promised he'd get a better one for the sequel.



I'll prolly still like the flick, but I'll miss
DA na na na nah- nah nah
Da na na na nah, NEH NAH!


The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:02 PM

TRAVELER


Superman
Spiderman
Batman Begins and The Dark Knight
Watchmen

No particular order. I thought they were all great films. I probably missed some, but these entered my mind first. At least when my mind stops rattling.

Did you hear, they are going to start filming Spiderman 4. I hope it is better then the last one.


http://www.imdb.com/mymovies/list?l=28764731
Traveler

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Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:26 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by traveler:
Did you hear, they are going to start filming Spiderman 4. I hope it is better then the last one.


I liked Spider-man 3.
I am a sick puppy, I know.
I also liked X-3.
And both Fantastic Four movies.
And Daredevil (Director's cut)
AND Elektra (Well, the photography & music, anyway...)!
And TMNT!!!!

On the superhero front, I guess I'm easy to please, as long as Batman stars in HIS OWN MOVIE (Batman Returns)!!!! Or as long as Superman fights a DECENT SUPERVILLAIN (Superman IV) or doesn't have a S**T COSTUME (Superman Returns)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:29 PM

STORYMARK


Wait... you prefer Superman IV over Returns.... because of the costume.....

Wow. Just.... damn, man.

Really?

I mean, I can sorta understand liking X3 best, and almost understand liking Spidey 3 (not really, but I'll say so to sound sympathetic).... but Superman 4 just sucks.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:39 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
but Superman 4 just sucks

Look, Superman IV is gutter trash, but at least the costume is right (and it's Reeve). Superman returns, while much better produced & directed, just totally loses me with whole speedo-brief/murky-coloured/rubber-cape/choking-collar thing. Honestly, I'd have more fun watching IV. But then, they're both crap, really.

EDIT: I wrote that last post badly anyway- I hated SIV, & both Returns.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:35 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Your fondness for the score still amazes me

Quote:

As much as I had prepared myself to dislike this score...as much as I thought I'd be among the throngs of haters...and as much as I long for classically-styled scores for superhero films, IRON MAN has won me over.

http://www.tracksounds.com/reviews/iron_man_ramin_djawadi.htm#

It's not just me, Story.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:42 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Well, what did in X-men for me were a few things, but rolled up and totalled, it was the lack of the necessary ambiguity between the sides that cost it so much of it's draw - I mean, in the first one I guess they kinda tried, it's not blatant, but if you look you find that Pyro was the only one who instead of blind acceptance, actually *thought* about the situation and he made his OWN choice.

But that couldn't redeem the utter and total distortion of Magnetos character, there were two lines which struck such a raw note it was unbearable, especially when they were delivered with such COMPLETELY ANVILICIOUS directing and backed up by the soundtrack - so not only did they totally derail the character, they bashed you over the head with it, hard enough to really piss me off, in fact.

The first cringeworthy note ?
"You're not one of us any more."

He never, EVER woulda done that - one of the things that made Magneto so damned seductively ambiguous was that JUST LIKE Xavier, he stood by his own, hell or high water, even when they were in the wrong cause they were HIS people.

And the one that sent me from my seat to the threatre door ?
"This is why pawns go first."

Seriously, WTF ?
Magneto NEVER wasted his people, never abandoned em neither - without the polarity changed similarities between Xavier and Magneto, and their people, the story DOES NOT WORK, it becomes mere tripe and unappetizing.

It was always the fact that Magneto WASN'T a complete monster, that he HAD A POINT and was scarily sympathetic that made him the great villain he was, and best of all, just how similar he and Xavier were beneath his cynicism and Xaviers idealism - how we could all go either way as a matter of what WE chose, the choices WE make.

That was the root of the stories value, and they tossed it out in favor of reducing Magneto to a republic serial villain who is neither sympathetic, nor even very scary - plus they made him STUPID - which he never in a million years would ever be.

Magento woulda used that bridge as a damned bulldozer, scraped that place clean off the map and then dropped it from a half a mile up to finish the job - only reason he'd have brought flunkies at all would be to mop up, make sure, and capture anything of use for deployment against the Xavier and his cronies, and he'd agonise before doing so since that would make him as bad as the folks he was warring against, and would only resort to such in desperation.

Anyhows, I could pick it to death, but you get the idea.

-Frem

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Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:50 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Iron Man
V for Vendetta
Watchmen
Hellboy
Hellboy 2

Mike

Let the wild rumpus start!

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Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:00 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by traveler:
Did you hear, they are going to start filming Spiderman 4. I hope it is better then the last one.


I liked Spider-man 3.
I am a sick puppy, I know.
I also liked X-3.
And both Fantastic Four movies.
And Daredevil (Director's cut)
AND Elektra (Well, the photography & music, anyway...)!
And TMNT!!!!

On the superhero front, I guess I'm easy to please, as long as Batman stars in HIS OWN MOVIE (Batman Returns)!!!! Or as long as Superman fights a DECENT SUPERVILLAIN (Superman IV) or doesn't have a S**T COSTUME (Superman Returns)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




The laughing Chrisisall




Go ahead. Put Halle Berry's "Catwoman" on your list of bests. I triple-dog dare ya!

Mike

Let the wild rumpus start!

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Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:23 PM

CHRISISALL


Double mammory-gland post

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Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:23 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Go ahead. Put Halle Berry's "Catwoman" on your list of bests. I triple-dog dare ya!


Ummmmm... I know I SAW it....
But..

What was it about, again??



Oh yeah! T*ts!!!


The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:26 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Yeah, that was about it.

I just had to see how low your standards go... I mean, you DID list Elektra and Daredevil, right?



Mike

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Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:47 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:


I just had to see how low your standards go... I mean, you DID list Elektra and Daredevil, right?


Daredevil was good, not great. Jennifer Garner was great, Elektra was OOOH-Kaaaaay.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, October 21, 2009 11:36 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Didn't know so many of those were comic books.
I'd add Sin City and 300 to my list, still under Steve Austin tho.

I guess I can also add Phantom (w/ Billy Zane, Larry Drake) and Catwoman.
And wasn't Transformers a comic? And superheroes to boot.

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 6:32 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
but Superman 4 just sucks

Look, Superman IV is gutter trash, but at least the costume is right (and it's Reeve). Superman returns, while much better produced & directed, just totally loses me with whole speedo-brief/murky-coloured/rubber-cape/choking-collar thing. Honestly, I'd have more fun watching IV. But then, they're both crap, really.

EDIT: I wrote that last post badly anyway- I hated SIV, & both Returns.


The laughing Chrisisall



Eh, the costume wasn't great, but I didn't hate it. That, I consider it one of the least important aspects. It's not a classic film, but I thought it was pretty decent. Had some subtext, and is more proficiently made than many superhero flicks.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:32 AM

ASARIAN


Sin City = superb cinematographic, bestest 'film noir' flic of all time.
The Incredibles = A derivative of Fantastic Four, of course, but it was delightfully funny and entertaining. And I always had a thing for Elastigirl (huh, must be that nubile & bendy thingy).


--
"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:46 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Had some subtext,

The only subtext I could see was that a little piece of Kryptonite can kill Superman, but paradoxically, a continent-sized chunk just puts him in a temporary coma, and takes a real LOOOOOOG time to do it.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:53 AM

STORYMARK


If that's the only subtext you could see, maybe you should have taken your eyes off the speedo from time to time.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:01 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
If that's the only subtext you could see, maybe you should have taken your eyes off the speedo from time to time.


Oh yeah, YOU try not looking at something that horrifies YOU in a movie.
Subtext, please. Superman IV had a subtext too- but neither movie is good enough that I'd care to, even for a moment, waste my free time entertaining the IDEA of actually firing up the 4 brain cells needed to discuss it.

Wanna talk subtext in Dark Angel?


The laughing Chrisisall

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:14 AM

STORYMARK


*sigh* You're hopeless.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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