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Torchwood: Children of Earth

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Monday, July 6, 2009 11:30 AM

WAKEUPSOON


.. the first episode just aired in the UK.

Officially announcing SPOILERS TO COME, but I'll try to leave this first post free of them.

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What were people's thoughts? Personally, I thought it was BRILLIANT. It may be a much shorter season, although with slightly longer episodes, but the quality of it has certainly been turned up a notch. Never a dull moment. Still funny, still dramatic, and we got insight into some pasts.

I cannot wait for tomorrow's installment!

(Oh, and DVD already available for preorder on Amazon .. it comes out Monday!!)

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Tuesday, July 7, 2009 11:45 AM

LWAVES


I have always been a big fan of Doctor Who so I eagerly awaited Torchwood when it first appeared but in all honesty I stopped watching after the third episode as I didn't think much too it.

But it kept nagging at my brain so I went back to it and found that I really liked it by about half way through the first season and the second season was even better.

Children Of Earth was excellent stuff. Intriguing, exciting, funny - everything you could want.
And the closing line from the children was a brilliant cliffhanger alone, never mind the situations we leave the others in.

Really looking forward to the othe episodes and I think that this show will work over a week especially as it appears the story will cover five days as well.

Great stuff.



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Tuesday, July 7, 2009 11:49 AM

WAKEUPSOON


I too think Children of Earth is the best so far. My friend and I were talking, and we gave last night's episode a 9 out of 10 and tonight's an 8. Seriously good stuff. I really cannot wait for tomorrow ..

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Tuesday, July 7, 2009 12:30 PM

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I'm loving it so far

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Tuesday, July 7, 2009 3:05 PM

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I've really enjoyed it so far, especially the interactions with the main characters' families. It took two seasons to do it, but I think now they've really found their footing show-wise. Eagerly awaiting the next installment.

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Saturday, July 11, 2009 12:59 AM

IMNOTHERE


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Talk about radical cast clean-out (bearing in mind that they killed off two regulars at the end of series 2!) - although I suspect that Jack going walkabout at the end is probably setting him up for a last reunion with the Doctor.



Finally, Torchwood raises itself above "Doctor Who with sex and swearing" and works out how to produce an adult" show by making the story just that little bit more disturbing and violent.

Not perfect - it felt a bit padded in places and could probably have been done in a 3-parter. However, the shock at Jack's Big Terrible Decision was an effective way of sweetening (bittering?) the pill of the inevitable fortuitous technological solution.

Plus, I can live without seeing John Barrowman's butt crack (I know some people would differ).

Oh, and I make that 4 British Prime Ministers (and one US president) that Russel T Davies has deposed and/or killed so far. Is he trying to tell us something?

Anybody else get the feeling that the "Lois" character might have originally been written for Martha's sister?

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Saturday, July 11, 2009 10:29 AM

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Talk about radical cast clean-out (bearing in mind that they killed off two regulars at the end of series 2!) - although I suspect that Jack going walkabout at the end is probably setting him up for a last reunion with the Doctor.



Finally, Torchwood raises itself above "Doctor Who with sex and swearing" and works out how to produce an adult" show by making the story just that little bit more disturbing and violent.

Not perfect - it felt a bit padded in places and could probably have been done in a 3-parter. However, the shock at Jack's Big Terrible Decision was an effective way of sweetening (bittering?) the pill of the inevitable fortuitous technological solution.

Plus, I can live without seeing John Barrowman's butt crack (I know some people would differ).

Oh, and I make that 4 British Prime Ministers (and one US president) that Russel T Davies has deposed and/or killed so far. Is he trying to tell us something?

Anybody else get the feeling that the "Lois" character might have originally been written for Martha's sister?



I actually did feel like Lois could of been related to Martha, though I prefer the actress who plays Lois over Martha, neither are special but I always found Martha a little on the annoying side especially when she started shouting almost made me want to put my hands on my ears.

I love Torchwood, easily one of my favourite shows. First season was fresh but perhaps it tried a little too hard to be adult and cool but by the second season they found the perfect balance and my God the third season

Children of Earth is so sad for many reasons (won't say cause of spoilers) but at the same time the writing was top notch, the best it has ever been in any British sci-fi show & dare I say it...American too.

Torchwood has been the only show to make me cry (films have done it a few times but never a show), once in the second season (you know at the end of season 2) & in the fourth episode of Season 3 a few days ago & then on top of this to create such powerful scenes and themes and then make them really dig into you is something I have virtually never seen in a show let alone a film before. And of course it still keeps its humour but I feel Children of Earth toned down a bit of the adult content though hardly all of it (still got some violence, blood, jokes, etc) and created even more adult themes in this season although not necessarily adult more serious points and themes, a lot more dark throughout.

I actually thought Children of Men is what Serenity is to Firefly, a bit darker, more finely tuned in the writing department, and overall better made but there is just something about the original (Firefly, Season 1 & 2 of Torchwood) which makes it your favourite. Capt Jack in Children of Earth you could compare to our very own Capt. Mal, in Firefly and S1 & S2 of Torchwood they are lighter, a little more fun but still dark characters but in Serenity & Children of Earth they have been made how they were originally intended, darker characters (although not 100%)

Amazing full stop

Can't wait for Season 4 of Torchwood but after this I think it will never be the same again

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Saturday, July 11, 2009 2:15 PM

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i actually think that the lois Character was originally supposed to BE Martha Jones.

I remember reading some where that Russell kinda flipped out when Freema Signed on to "Law & Order UK", since it was on the Beeb's main competitor ITV, she was now under contract with them, therefore not available to reprise her role as Martha, who was " Supposed to play a large part of the story line"
so they had to go through and do massive rewrites

and yeah i think jack's walkabout will lead him into the doctor's path before David Tennant Regenerates in to Matt Smith. as for a final meeting?? I'll believe it when i see it.


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Tuesday, July 14, 2009 1:50 AM

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I just finished Torchwood: Children of Earth Day 3 and 4. WOW!!!


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Tuesday, July 14, 2009 10:12 AM

IMNOTHERE


Quote:

Originally posted by Haken:
I just finished Torchwood: Children of Earth Day 3 and 4. WOW!!!



Book your post-trauma counseling session now. You'll need it.

I do detect a hint of "inspiration" from the underrated final 1979 Quatermass story (recommended BTW), but not enough to be actionable...

Say what you like about the BBC - that's three seriously decent slices of SF/Fantasy goodness they've served up this year (Torchwood 3, Being Human, Ashes To Ashes). I'd give them the Who special except the cheapskates should have sprung for a whole season...

Shame some wit blotted the copybook by greenlighting Krud "its got Matt Lucas' name on it so we must fund it" Mandoon. Oh well.



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Tuesday, July 14, 2009 11:44 AM

WAKEUPSOON


Quote:

Originally posted by ImNotHere:
I'd give them the Who special except the cheapskates should have sprung for a whole season...

But that wasn't the BBC's fault - they would've sprung for a full season, but David Tennant was in the RSC all last year so wasn't available to film a full series. We're lucky to be getting the specials, originally we weren't getting anything ...

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Tuesday, July 14, 2009 2:47 PM

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Originally posted by ImNotHere:
Say what you like about the BBC - that's three seriously decent slices of SF/Fantasy goodness they've served up this year (Torchwood 3, Being Human, Ashes To Ashes). I'd give them the Who special except the cheapskates should have sprung for a whole season...



Don't forget there's still three specials to come plus a full series of Sarah Jane Adventures (with some very special guest stars) and even a K-9 spin-off - not bad for a show taking a year out.

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Saturday, July 25, 2009 10:55 PM

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That was pretty intense


One thing really bothered me, though, as it went on. They really should have cast an actress capable of facial expression to play Jack's daughter. Here's this woman who's gone through all this craziness, and goes through still greater trauma, and she's been botoxed into a vague, mildly surprised half-smile. Even when she was shouting, her face barely seemed to move. Running towards her son at the end, it still looked like she was smiling. It was very creepy and kind of took me out of it. Even if clinging to youth was supposed to be part of her story, or whatever, that doesn't make for a less appalling performance when someone can't move their face.

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Sunday, August 2, 2009 9:56 AM

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Sunday, August 2, 2009 12:27 PM

MSA


I was a little disturbed by the killing off of virtually the whole of the torchwood staff, but though Children of Earth was amazing. DId make me think about the gun situation both UK and US. In the UK soldiers were able to muscle their way in and take kids and I'm betting in the US if you tried to pull that gunshots would ring out...
Overall I thought it very effect and a truly interesting moral quandary. Though I was surprised no one thought to bring up ( after the revelation the kids were drugs) that these, like any dealers would be back fore more and more product and giving in just delayed the inevitable.
I was also really impressed with the choice to portray all government officials in this way...
Truly well done, though I'd rather have had the 5 longer episodes last and had a few more Torchwood episodes to start

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Sunday, August 2, 2009 11:45 PM

MOVIEFREAK73


The entire Children of Earth mini series were PERFECT! I was frozen while watching this awesome piece of sci-fi.

Authors opened very difficult questions.
What will do governements in a similar situation? How will behave our politicians if they feel their necks are in real danger? What will armies do? What about people reactions?

OK, i saw only one young cop who told the soldiers this is not the way.

Children of Earth show is awesome beacuse it showing a different point of view than all those sweet american movies about people loving governement with high morale credit.... Bulls*ts!

As i live in Europe, i know how easy is to sell people in exchange for a short term profit (Munich 1938, Poland - Katyn....)

So i say, end of Torchwood was AWESOME and very DEEP because it pressing me to think about....WHAT WILL BE IF.... and this is great on every show.

Yes, we can be surprised one day when we notice the reality is even worse than this dark sci-fi.

I hope the authors will continue because this show is just different and better than mainstream.




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Monday, August 3, 2009 10:25 AM

IMNOTHERE


Quote:

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In the UK soldiers were able to muscle their way in and take kids and I'm betting in the US if you tried to pull that gunshots would ring out...



The problem with the theory that a population with guns will stand up to a corrupted government is that governments tend to have bigger, better guns. And tanks. Plus whatever nightmare techno-weapons the boffins have dreamed up.

Anyway, guns or not, I don't think any government could get away with deciding, overnight, to perform such a despicable act.

...it would take literally weeks to stir up some race- or class-hate-based nonsense that would have 50% of the population cheering them on while they did it.


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these, like any dealers would be back fore more and more product and giving in just delayed the inevitable.



I thought that was implicit from the whole setup with the 1960s encounter. Methinks your typical politician is quite happy with delaying the inevitable, especially if its until after the next election.

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I was also really impressed with the choice to portray all government officials in this way...



I'm sure that there have been some UK shows that portray a positive image of our wonderful government but, y'know, I'm hard pressed to think of one at the moment. Basically, provided you're not too specific as to which party you're talking about, and keep the Queen out of it, the government is fair game for programme makers.

We may not have guns, but if our government oversteps the line then, by the Lord Harry, they'll feel the sharp edge of our tongues!

Dr Who and Torchwood have quite a high political body count: I think so far they've wiped out the PM and the whole cabinet twice, killed one US President and deposed 2 other PMs (one of whom later got killed off, but went out as a hero).

The biggest sticking-out-of-neck was the end of The Christmas Invasion which was a fairly blatant allegory to a real and controversial event during the Falklands war. That went out at teatime on Christmas Day. If they can get away with that...





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