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The Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga Failure Thread (Edited title on 05-24 with failure prediction)

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Thursday, March 14, 2024 9:44 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


It looks pretty good.



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Snatched from the Green Place of Many Mothers, young Furiosa falls into the hands of a great biker horde led by the warlord Dementus. Sweeping through the Wasteland, they come across the Citadel, presided over by the Immortan Joe. As the two tyrants fight for dominance, Furiosa soon finds herself in a nonstop battle to make her way home.


I saw a blurb about it this morning on The-Numbers but hadn't even heard about it until just now.

In fact, I didn't even know that George Miller produced and directed the 2015 Mad Max movie and was the guy who directed the original trilogy. I figured it was just another completely unrelated pre-woke era Hollywood cash grab.

I haven't seen a Mad Max movie since I was probably around 10 years old. I might have to watch all of them again, including the 2015 movie that apparently was well received.




As to the movie itself, we get very little background on her story other than she was taken away from her family and this is her "odyssey" to get back home. Depending on how it's done, this could be a believable and quite entertaining story. She's obviously going to be much more believable as an ass-kicker growing up as a kidnapped child in Mad Max World than the Vault Dweller girl from the Fallout TV show would be.

I love Anya Taylor-Joy. She was amazing as a mass-murdering science experiment gone wrong in 2016's Morgan, but please George, spare us a one on one battle scene between a nano-techless Anya Taylor-Joy and Chris Hemsworth where she bests him in physical combat or this movie is getting thrown right on top of the woke trash heap.


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Friday, May 24, 2024 8:45 PM

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According to Google and Wikipedia, it cost $168 Million to make. That right their sets the failure in stone if it's true. It's not going to make more than $420 Million to break even. Bruce doesn't have numbers on the budget yet.

It made only $3.5 Million in previews, and his model's prediction is showing only $30 Million this weekend in the US, although he says that based off of Fury Road he thinks it could possibly make $40 Million in the US this weekend.

Fury road made 58% of its money overseas, so even a $40 Million opening here with internationals at the same rate as Fury Road would amount to an opening weekend of only about $103 Million, which would only be about 61% of the production budget, all but ensuring a pretty large failure here.

How much did Chris Hemsworth and Anya Taylor Joy make on this one?


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Sunday, May 26, 2024 2:02 PM

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LOL...

So much for hopes of $40 Million (or $103 Million worldwide). It didn't even make Bruce's computer model's $30 Million prediction.

$25,550,000 in the US for opening weekend. Wow.

It will get a million or two added once the real numbers come in, but not even close to $30 Million.

It's at $58.85 Million right now worldwide, with just over $60 million likely after the official numbers drop tomorrow.


This movie is already dead. Dead, dead, deadsky.


You better do something about those budgets now, Hollywood. Those poor actors are going to have to downgrade their mansions when they start getting paid what they're worth.

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Sunday, May 26, 2024 2:29 PM

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Oh yeah... This is also a worse opening weekend than both Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire ($61 Million) or The Fall Guy ($64.4 Million), even though it cost $68 Million more to make than Ghostbusters and $43 Million more than The Fall Guy.


Ghostbusters looks like it will eek out that $200 Million box office with $199.6 Million after 66 days in theaters. The Fall Guy at only $144 Million in 26 days has a long way to go to even hit that number.

Will Mad Max even hit $200 Million? Probably not.

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Monday, May 27, 2024 7:24 AM

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Furiosa A Mad Max Saga

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Monday, May 27, 2024 7:35 AM

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According to Google and Wikipedia, it cost $168 Million to make. That right their sets the failure in stone if it's true. It's not going to make more than $420 Million to break even.

The people whose names are in the credits want the movie to cost a vast fortune because that money goes into their bank accounts. Each movie might be their last and they want to go out with a blast. On the other hand, the people who financed the movie, whose names are not in the credits, want to keep the cost down, but they don't try particularly hard because the movie might accidentally be super successful so all the wastefulness in making the movie will make them richer. They are gamblers; if they weren't, they would exit the movie business.

See Box Office History for Warner Bros. to see how the business works.

Top-Grossing Movies 1995-2024, Adjusted for Ticket Price Inflation
https://www.the-numbers.com/market/distributor/Warner-Bros

This list shows the years when the gamblers won big. Other years are not so big.
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/distributor/Warner-Bros#tab=year

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, May 27, 2024 9:31 AM

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Fag.

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Monday, May 27, 2024 9:59 AM

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Fag.

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The previous movie about Furiosa (Fury Road) has a feel good ending with Furiosa achieving all her goals. I am not spoiling this prequel by stating it has a feel bad ending. Yuck. That horrifying ending reduced ticket sales by hundreds of millions of dollars. Perhaps in an attempt to make the audience feel better, as they leave the theater, about the disgusting things Furiosa did a moment ago, the credits run much happier and uplifting scenes about Furiosa from the previous movie.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, May 27, 2024 10:14 AM

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Fag.

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The previous movie about Furiosa (Fury Road) has a feel good ending with Furiosa achieving all her goals. I am not spoiling this prequel by stating it has a feel bad ending. Yuck. That horrifying ending reduced ticket sales by hundreds of millions of dollars. Perhaps in an attempt to make the audience feel better, as they leave the theater, about the disgusting things Furiosa did a moment ago, the credits run much happier and uplifting scenes about Furiosa from the previous movie.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two




I'd wager people don't want to go see this because even if they could afford to under years of rampant Bidenflation* they have no desire to see the world that Democrats are making come true.

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Monday, May 27, 2024 10:43 AM

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I'd wager people don't want to go see this because even if they could afford to under years of rampant Bidenflation* they have no desire to see the world that Democrats are making come true.

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Per usual, more than half the tickets sales are from countries that are not America and do not have a President Biden. But you are still blaming Biden for poor ticket sales at movie theaters in other countries, 6ixStringJack.

By the way, Furiosa starts with a map of Australia, just as reminder that the movie is not happening in America. When climate change becomes an unmistakable disaster, the whole world will be in the disaster zone since the billion tons per week of carbon dioxide added to the atmosphere gets spread across the entire world. As a reminder that CO2 gas is a far bigger waste problem, the world produces only 2 billion tonnes per year of solid waste.
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+much+solid+waste+is+generated+in+t
he+world


Annual carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions worldwide from 1940 to 2023 (in billion metric tons)
https://www.statista.com/statistics/276629/global-co2-emissions/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, May 27, 2024 1:30 PM

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I'd wager people don't want to go see this because even if they could afford to under years of rampant Bidenflation* they have no desire to see the world that Democrats are making come true.

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Per usual, more than half the tickets sales are from countries that are not America and do not have a President Biden. But you are still blaming Biden for poor ticket sales at movie theaters in other countries, 6ixStringJack.



Joe Biden* and the Democrats ruined the economy of the entire Western world, not just America.



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Monday, May 27, 2024 8:24 PM

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Joe Biden* and the Democrats ruined the economy of the entire Western world, not just America.

Let's summarize: I think Hollywood movie ticket sales are poor because audiences know these crappy movies are free on home TV a few days after theaters open, while 6ixStringJack thinks it is because Hollywood movies are woke, a politically loaded term used by Trumptards.

There is an exception to the woke rule. For movies that can't be woke unless you are a cross-eyed idiot, such as Furiosa, 6ixStringJack thinks ticket sales are doing poorly because people in faraway places were impoverished by Joe Biden. I'm sure that if those folks don't have money for movie tickets, it has nothing to do with Biden. 6ixStringJack should blame the national governments of those faraway lands.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, May 27, 2024 9:50 PM

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Joe Biden* and the Democrats ruined the economy of the entire Western world, not just America.

Let's summarize: I think Hollywood movie ticket sales are poor because audiences know these crappy movies are free on home TV a few days after theaters open, while 6ixStringJack thinks it is because Hollywood movies are woke, a politically loaded term used by Trumptards.



I have actual evidence. People bought a whole lot of tickets to see crap last year and they're not doing it this year because they're broke. Because Joe Biden* and Democrats made them broke.

You morons destroyed the world economy and shut everything down over a cold, and everybody is paying for it today.

November is coming soon.

Tick Tock

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Monday, May 27, 2024 10:11 PM

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I have actual evidence. People bought a whole lot of tickets to see crap last year and they're not doing it this year because they're broke. Because Joe Biden* and Democrats made them broke.

You morons destroyed the world economy and shut everything down over a cold, and everybody is paying for it today.

November is coming soon.

Tick Tock

May I suggest you see the Joker: Folie à Deux at the theater in October to get you into the celebratory mood for Trump's inevitable victory in November? Joker was maternal homicidal crap and Joker 2 will be crap raised to the power of two which is perfect for you.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, May 27, 2024 10:12 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I have actual evidence. People bought a whole lot of tickets to see crap last year and they're not doing it this year because they're broke. Because Joe Biden* and Democrats made them broke.

You morons destroyed the world economy and shut everything down over a cold, and everybody is paying for it today.

November is coming soon.

Tick Tock

May I suggest you see the Joker: Folie à Deux at the theater in October to get you into the celebratory mood for Trump's inevitable victory in November? Joker was crap and Joker 2 will be crap raised to the power of two which is perfect for you.



No thanks.

I have no interest in seeing Joker 2. I've already stated as much several times.

I'm sure I'll have to say it several more because all you ever do is repeat your bullshit like a broken record.

Enjoy the next 5 months. Democrats are on their way out, and you've spent the last 3.5 years crying about everything because all you do is bitch and moan and whine about everything, every day, all the time.

It's why everybody in your real life hates you.

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Monday, May 27, 2024 10:15 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I have actual evidence. People bought a whole lot of tickets to see crap last year and they're not doing it this year because they're broke. Because Joe Biden* and Democrats made them broke.

You morons destroyed the world economy and shut everything down over a cold, and everybody is paying for it today.

November is coming soon.

Tick Tock

May I suggest you see the Joker: Folie à Deux at the theater in October to get you into the celebratory mood for Trump's inevitable victory in November? Joker was crap and Joker 2 will be crap raised to the power of two which is perfect for you.



No thanks.

I have no interest in seeing Joker 2. I've already stated as much several times.

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What? You are not interested in the Joker killing his mother, again, at least in his dreams? Or his attempted murder of Harley Quinn for the first time? Hollywood gives people like you what they want: crap and more crap.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, May 27, 2024 11:29 PM

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You're such a tool.



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Monday, May 27, 2024 11:33 PM

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Weekend box office: Furiosa top on slowest Memorial Day weekend in years

https://www.the-numbers.com/news/256960830-Weekend-box-office-Furiosa-
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Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga will come out of Memorial Day weekend on top of the box office chart, but its $26.3-million estimated three-day opening is a significant disappointment. That is a smaller debut than The Fall Guy managed at the beginning of May, and that film wasn’t the latest installment in a multi-Oscar winning franchise. While both films got good reviews from critics, Furiosa has the edge in that department too, with critic and audience scores both running at 90% positive on Rotten Tomatoes right now and a B+ CinemaScore. Unfortunately, the weak opening for Furiosa isn’t the last of the bad news this weekend, which, outside of the 2020 pandemic, will be the weakest Memorial Day weekend in years.

...

Those minor pieces of good news don’t hide the fact that this has been a massively disappointing Summer season so far. While no release has been a complete disaster, we haven’t had a film over-perform to any significant degree yet. Audiences just don’t seem to be in the habit of going to movie theaters at the moment, and we’re running out of opportunities to turn the year around.



Thank Joe Biden* and Democrats for ruining the world economy, and then straight up lying about it for 2 years using the Legacy Media as their propaganda mouthpiece instead of actually doing something about it.

Election Day keeps getting closer.

Tick Tock

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Tuesday, May 28, 2024 9:11 PM

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Haha.

Furiosa got beat by The Garfield Movie on Memorial Day.

And it got beat by IF too.

https://www.the-numbers.com/daily-box-office-chart

3rd place already? Say it ain't so.


Hollywood has got to be panicking at this point.

Better start cutting those budgets and slashing those actor's paydays.

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Wednesday, May 29, 2024 7:12 PM

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Furiosa A Mad Max Saga

https://1337x.to/torrent/6112474/Furiosa-A-Mad-Max-Saga-2024-1080p-HDT
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/

The final “/” is very important. Without the “/” there will be an error message.

Info Hash v1: 6178706bcf8589cc203171bd3ef3ad2b4afa8b39

On May 29, 2024 at 05:35 PM a pretty good copy of Furiosa arrived on the internet.

https://yts.mx/movies/furiosa-a-mad-max-saga-2024

Why travel to a Baytown movie theater, pay exorbitant prices for the wife's snacks and our tickets, when we can watch it on an 85" QLED 8K TV for free? Besides, we got to get up early in the morning to go to the work we love. There are advantages to being able to jump forward or backward in the movie rather than being locked into the pace the director wants. The director thinks the movie is "art" but it is also crap, the same inanity as almost everything Hollywood has ever made since the days of silent movies.

https://www.showbizcinemas.com/film-info/baytown/furiosa-a-mad-max-sag
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Thursday, May 30, 2024 12:50 AM

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Furiosa A Mad Max Saga

https://1337x.to/torrent/6112474/Furiosa-A-Mad-Max-Saga-2024-1080p-HDT
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/

The final “/” is very important. Without the “/” there will be an error message.

Info Hash v1: 6178706bcf8589cc203171bd3ef3ad2b4afa8b39

On May 29, 2024 at 05:35 PM a pretty good copy of Furiosa arrived on the internet.

https://yts.mx/movies/furiosa-a-mad-max-saga-2024

Why travel to a Baytown movie theater, pay exorbitant prices for the wife's snacks and our tickets, when we can watch it on an 85" QLED 8K TV for free? Besides, we got to get up early in the morning to go to the work we love. There are advantages to being able to jump forward or backward in the movie rather than being locked into the pace the director wants. The director thinks the movie is "art" but it is also crap, the same inanity as almost everything Hollywood has ever made since the days of silent movies.

https://www.showbizcinemas.com/film-info/baytown/furiosa-a-mad-max-sag
a
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



Does your wife know that you aren't paying taxes to the IRS for the movies you're pirating even though Joe Biden* is President?

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Friday, May 31, 2024 10:27 PM

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Does your wife know that you aren't paying taxes to the IRS for the movies you're pirating even though Joe Biden* is President?



Awwwww... Did I embarrass you away from another thread?

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Friday, May 31, 2024 10:29 PM

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Oh yeah... This is also a worse opening weekend than both Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire ($61 Million) or The Fall Guy ($64.4 Million), even though it cost $68 Million more to make than Ghostbusters and $43 Million more than The Fall Guy.


Ghostbusters looks like it will eek out that $200 Million box office with $199.6 Million after 66 days in theaters. The Fall Guy at only $144 Million in 26 days has a long way to go to even hit that number.

Will Mad Max even hit $200 Million? Probably not.



Certainly not. Bruce predicts only $13 Million this weekend for Furiosa in the states this weekend.

This movie is going to be destroyed.

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Saturday, June 1, 2024 9:39 PM

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The Garfield Movie pummeled Furiosa on Friday night, grossing $700k more at $3.735 Million.

Preview Thursday night included for both movies, Garfield only dropped -56% while Furiosa dropped 71%. Garfield also nearly doubled Preview Thursday night last night, while Furiosa brought in $500k less than its own Preview Thursday number.

They both came out on the same day, and Garfield has topped the daily chart 3 times already.


Garfield's budget came in an very lean $60 Million, so it only needs $150 Million to break even.

So congratulations to The Garfield Movie and Sony Pictures ahead of time for this win.

Way to budget.

Not including Memorial Day, Garfield made $90 Million worldwide on opening weekend or 150% of its production budget, which at least by last year's numbers up until today means an absolute guaranty that the movie makes money.

It has since pulled in over $13 Million in the US going into its second weekend. Once the international numbers come in it will already be declared one of the rare 2024 Box Office Winners, and SONY can finally start recouping some of massive losses that started with Madame Web.

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Sunday, June 2, 2024 12:24 PM

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'Furiosa' dropped to 3rd place in one week

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Sunday, June 2, 2024 2:45 PM

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Sunday was actually the 2nd time that Furiosa has been in 3rd place. It took 3rd place on Memorial Day too, so it only took 4 days if you don't include Preview Thursday.

Hard to tell for sure if it got 3rd place for the weekend though. With studio projections, it's down $50k to IF for 2nd place, but that's so close it could easily go either way.

At $10.75 Million for the 2nd weekend, my prediction last Sunday that this movie was dead and probably won't make $200 Million is pretty much set in stone. We'll have to see internationals tomorrow, but I doubt they're going to help the situation much.

I think I predicted in one of the RWED threads on Hollywood that Furiosa ends up losing Warner Bros in the area of $235 Million. That would put it in the area of a final worldwide gross of only $185 Million on a $168 Million budget.

That prediction may prove to have been high if the internationals are pathetic this week.

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Sunday, June 2, 2024 3:09 PM

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Turns out Bruce knows international numbers before he puts them up on his site. At least for some movies. He says in his projections article today that Furiosa has made $64.7 Million internationally so far. This is not surprising as it fits in perfectly with a trend where a movie doubles its international take on the 2nd weekend because it has 4 week days added to it, and Internationals on opening weekend were $32.5 Million.

Furiosa's worldwide total after 2 weekends is $114.37 Million.

It needs $420 Million to break even.

We're still only at 68% of the Production Budget 10 days into the run.

This one might be losing Warner Bros. something on the level of what Argylle lost for Universal earlier this year, relative to their respective budgets.

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'Furiosa' dropped to 3rd place in one week



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Sunday was actually the 2nd time that Furiosa has been in 3rd place. It took 3rd place on Memorial Day too, so it only took 4 days if you don't include Preview Thursday.

Hard to tell for sure if it got 3rd place for the weekend though. With studio projections, it's down $50k to IF for 2nd place, but that's so close it could easily go either way.



IF, to Furiosa:




Final Weekend Numbers:

1 The Garfield Movie $14,005,272
2 Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga $10,782,606
3 IF $10,505,718



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10 Reasons Furiosa Underperformed At The Box Office Despite Its 90% Rotten Tomatoes Score

https://screenrant.com/furiosa-mad-max-movie-box-office-disappointing-
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#3 Audiences Know Furiosa Probably Won't Take That Long To Release On VOD

#1 Casual moviegoers would rather watch movies at home than go out to a theater

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Sure. Take the word of Lefty shill site Screen Rant.

They'd rather wait and watch the movie at home because they have no money to go out and do anything anymore.


If you're going to bother re-posting an article from a Lefty site, at least post one from an outfit that at least pretends to be unbiased...

Bloomberg: Majority of Middle-Class Americans Say They Struggle Financially

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Almost two-thirds of Americans considered middle class said they are facing economic hardship and don’t anticipate a change for the rest of their lives, according to a poll commissioned by the National True Cost of Living Coalition.

By many traditional measures, the US economy is strong, with robust labor, housing and stock markets, as well as solid gross domestic product growth. But the data don’t capture the financial insecurity of millions of households who worry about their future and are unable to save, according to the group, created this year to come up with cost-of-living tools that help gauge economic well-being.

In the large poll of 2,500 adults, 65% of people who earn more than 200% of the federal poverty level — that’s at least $60,000 for a family of four, often considered middle class — said they are struggling financially.

A sizable share of higher-income Americans also feel financially insecure. The survey shows that a quarter of people making over five times the federal poverty level — an annual income of more than $150,000 for a family of four — worry about paying their bills.



That's the middle-class people making $60-$150k or more that nobody wants to hear whining about how rough they've got it right now. Especially since the whites among them are the ones most likely to have voted in the people responsible for it.

If they think they're struggling, how do you think the people who are earning less than $60k per household are holding up in Joe Biden*'s America?

Just ask the movie studios in 2024. They'll tell you.

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6ix, if you came across this post and didn't know he was you because of your amnesia, would you think that Only Trump can fix his problems? ("I alone can fix it" - Trump)
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Sure. Take the word of Lefty shill site Screen Rant.

They'd rather wait and watch the movie at home because they have no money to go out and do anything anymore.


If you're going to bother re-posting an article from a Lefty site, at least post one from an outfit that at least pretends to be unbiased...

Bloomberg: Majority of Middle-Class Americans Say They Struggle Financially

That's the middle-class people making $60-$150k or more that nobody wants to hear whining about how rough they've got it right now. Especially since the whites among them are the ones most likely to have voted in the people responsible for it.

If they think they're struggling, how do you think the people who are earning less than $60k per household are holding up in Joe Biden*'s America?

Just ask the movie studios in 2024. They'll tell you.

Tick Tock

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6ix, if you came across this post and didn't know he was you because of your amnesia, would you think that Only Trump can fix his problems? ("I alone can fix it" - Trump)
Quote:

Originally posted by Some-Random-Asshole:
Sure. Take the word of Lefty shill site Screen Rant.

They'd rather wait and watch the movie at home because they have no money to go out and do anything anymore.


If you're going to bother re-posting an article from a Lefty site, at least post one from an outfit that at least pretends to be unbiased...

Bloomberg: Majority of Middle-Class Americans Say They Struggle Financially

That's the middle-class people making $60-$150k or more that nobody wants to hear whining about how rough they've got it right now. Especially since the whites among them are the ones most likely to have voted in the people responsible for it.

If they think they're struggling, how do you think the people who are earning less than $60k per household are holding up in Joe Biden*'s America?

Just ask the movie studios in 2024. They'll tell you.

Tick Tock

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Would you like to try that again... in English this time please?

I have no idea what the fuck you're even on about now.


But really though. Don't bother. I have no interest in anything you have to say.

Everybody else in the country knows the economy sucks right now except for the uber-rich and TDS sufferers. The chronic lies of the Democrat Party are about to be paid for threefold.

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. . . panicking studios' tendency to throw movies onto streaming after a scant few weeks has permanently altered the "gotta see it on the big screen" urgency.

Which is all a shame. The movie kinda rules, even if it's a different model of muscle car than Fury Road, and its failure will only convince Hollywood not to bet on eccentric weirdoes with grand visions. See it in theaters while you still can, because it'll probably be released digitally before the month is out.

Where to stream: Nowhere yet, but on Max far too soon.

Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga (2024) -- 50 Box Office Bombs Totally Worth Watching
https://lifehacker.com/entertainment/box-office-bombs-totally-worth-wa
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. . . panicking studios' tendency to throw movies onto streaming after a scant few weeks has permanently altered the "gotta see it on the big screen" urgency.



This is nothing new. It began in 2020 when Democrats shut down all the movie theaters over a case of the sniffles.

Though it hadn't gotten back to pre-2020 levels, both the US and Worldwide Box Offices have seen significant gains in billions grossed over the last 3 years and they were on track to getting back to normal.

Until this year...

The people have been priced out of eating at freakin' McDonalds in Joe Biden*'s economy. They sure as shit aren't thinking about dropping all that money for a night out at the theater when that money is better spent keeping the electricity on, or paying down credit card debt they amassed this month just paying for their regular groceries.

The Democrats have put the fear of the unknown at the forefront of everybody's mind. That's why they're going to lose, again. And the cycle starts all over.


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Which is all a shame. The movie kinda rules, even if it's a different model of muscle car than Fury Road, and its failure will only convince Hollywood not to bet on eccentric weirdoes with grand visions. See it in theaters while you still can, because it'll probably be released digitally before the month is out.

Where to stream: Nowhere yet, but on Max far too soon.

Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga (2024) -- 50 Box Office Bombs Totally Worth Watching
https://lifehacker.com/entertainment/box-office-bombs-totally-worth-wa
tching



No. This movie will not be released on streaming within a month. It's likely going to get a release sometime in mid July.


Other recent Warner Bros. movies...

Wonka: In theaters on December 15th of 2023. Released on Max on March 8th of 2024.

84 days before released on streaming.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/wonka-confirms-streaming-release-date-19550
0780.html



Godzilla X Kong: The New Empire: In theaters on March 28th. Released on Max on May 14th.

58 days before released on streaming.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/monicamercuri/2024/03/30/when-is-godzilla
-x-kong-the-new-empire-coming-to-streaming-on-max/?sh=3c44b8a46e1b



Dune: Part 2: In theaters on February 29th. Released on Max on May 21st.

82 days before released on streaming.

https://reviewed.usatoday.com/streaming/features/how-watch-dune-part-t
wo-max



Furiosa has only been in theaters for 12 days.

The only way they're releasing this on Max in June is if it just drops to no views at all, immediately. It's already a huge box office flop... there's no reason to shoot themselves in the foot and give people more of a reason not to go see it.





Now... Universal on the other hand? They gave The Fall Guy a digital release only 3 weeks after it came out.

But so what? They released Five Nights at Freddy's on Peacock the very same day they released it in theaters last year and that grossed $297 Million on a $20 Million budget in the 56 days it was in theaters.

Even though it had a same day online release and only cost $20 Million to make, FNAF made more money in 2023 than all but 4 US releases in the first 5 months of 2024.

FNAF cost less than 1/6th of what The Fall Guy cost, was released on streaming on day one instead of after 3 weeks, and it grossed nearly $140 Million more than The Fall Guy has grossed in the theaters. And without having seen either of them I'm willing to bet that FNAF was unarguably the worse movie out of the two.

You seem to have forgotten that we have plenty of recorded data points regarding all of this. 7 months since the release of Five Night's at Freddy's and what we're witnessing is entirely new shift in behavior en masse and over a very short period of time. Studios shortened their box office runs all the way back in 2020 and only a few of them have attempted to go back to the way it was before 2020. That is not what has changed in the short time period that we're discussing now.

Keep pretending that the massive drop in the box office isn't caused by real life issues that people are dealing with here and now and see where it gets you in November.




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. . . panicking studios' tendency to throw movies onto streaming after a scant few weeks has permanently altered the "gotta see it on the big screen" urgency.



This is nothing new. It began in 2020 when Democrats shut down all the movie theaters over a case of the sniffles.

In Texas, nothing was shut down by the national/state/city/county governments. People stopped going on their own. Theaters shut down because few customers were coming. Why stay open if almost nobody buys a ticket? For a fact, why go to the theater when the same movie is on TV for free? To make movie watching special for children and teenagers consuming overpriced snacks?

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Addiction to Blockbuster Franchises Is Killing Hollywood
Corporate consolidation means tired and increasingly unpopular sequels.

By Jeet Heer | June 3, 2024

https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/haollywood-blockbuster-ip-ad
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Traditionally, Memorial Day is the start of Hollywood’s money-making period, the summer season when big blockbusters rake in the cash that keeps the industry afloat. Already suffering this year from post-Covid anxiety about its future, Hollywood experienced the worst Memorial Day weekend opening in three decades. As The Wrap reports, “The No. 1 film for this weekend, ‘Furiosa,’ made just $32 million over the four-day period, making it the lowest No. 1 Memorial Day release since 1995, when the family film ‘Casper’ opened to $22 million before inflation adjustment.” In fact, when inflation is taken into account, Casper made $45 million in 2024 terms, making it much more successful than Furiosa.

This disappointing weekend came on the heels of a broader box office downturn. As The Hollywood Reporter observed, “May has been brutal in terms of moviegoing. For the May 1-19 corridor, domestic box office revenue is off nearly 20 percent from last year and 50 percent behind 2019.”

Furiosa, the fifth film in the venerable postapocalyptic Mad Max franchise, joins a long string of movies—many from long-standing franchises that were previously cash cows—that have either bombed or greatly underperformed. In the last two years, this includes Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny, Mission: Impossible—Dead Reckoning Part One, as well as a string of flops from the once-dominant superhero genre adapting works from Marvel and DC comics. As The Hollywood Reporter noted last January, “Superhero fare—the genre that helped prop up the business for well over a decade—no longer got a free pass as megabudget pics bombed, including The Flash and Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom, both from DC, and Marvel Studios’ The Marvels.”

Superhero movies and other franchises are all intellectual property (IP) films: valued because they can feed into sequels and merchandise, all under corporate control. In the past, they held the promise of surefire profit, much valued by studios in an industry increasingly reliant on blockbusters making back their cost quickly in large theaters. This model of reliance on IP blockbusters is now dying, leading to what The Hollywood Reporter calls “an existential crisis.” To be sure, some franchises are still profitable. Avatar II made more than $2.3 billion and Dune: Part Two made $711 (nearly double that of Dune: Part One, which made $406 million). But this sort of IP success is increasingly rare and unpredictable.

Even as traditional IP movies falter, the big hits of the last two years have tended to be “unicorn” movies, unpredictable breakout hits, notably Oppenheimer, Taylor Swift’s The Eras Tour, and Barbie. Oppenheimer made nearly $1 billion worldwide, while Barbie made nearly $1.45 billion. The problem for Hollywood is that none of these movies offer a predictable model the way the Marvel Cinematic Universe did in its prime. Oppenheimer’s success doesn’t mean that a movie about another physicist—say, Max Planck or Enrico Fermi—would do well. Barbie, based on a popular Mattel doll, was an IP movie, but its success was surely due not just to the brand name but also the auteur’s freedom granted to director Gerta Gerwig, who unexpectedly turned the movie into a feminist parable. With its addiction to IP, Hollywood is planning to launch many other movies based on Mattel toys (Hot Wheels, Magicbox, and View-Master, among many others), but it seems improbable that Barbie’s magic will rub off on them. The smash box office of The Eras Tour is based on the singular popularity of Taylor Swift.

Hollywood’s current problem isn’t just the failure of an odd film here and there. After all, box office bombs are nearly as old as the movies themselves, with famous stinkers like The Fall of the Roman Empire (1964), Ishtar (1986), and Battlefield Earth (2000) littering the history of moviemaking. But these disappointments were in the context of an otherwise thriving industry. Hollywood today has become addicted as never before to blockbuster IP franchises.

In the May issue of Harper’s Magazine, the historian Daniel Bessner provided an exceptionally sharp account of the roots of the current Hollywood crisis—one that has become even more salient after the disastrous Memorial Day box office. https://harpers.org/archive/2024/05/the-life-and-death-of-hollywood-da
niel-bessner
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Bessner details the political economy of Hollywood, an industry where a combination of union strength and government regulation once provided middle-class security to generations of cultural workers. But with the Reagan era deregulation of the 1980s, coupled with the rising power of private equity firms and the broader financialization of the economy, Hollywood has become much more economically stratified, with a handful of corporations enjoying near-monopoly power.

This is a process that goes back decades. Filmmaking is an art form, but it is also a business, one that is unusually sensitive to market pressures. In retrospect, we can see that the great era of 1970s Hollywood—which saw the flowering of auteurs such as Martin Scorsese, Francis Ford Coppola, Robert Altman, and Elaine May— was destroyed by the Volcker Shock of 1979, when the rapid rise of interest rates pushed by Federal Reserve chair Paul Volcker led to a consolidation of studios and a much more risk-adverse Hollywood. Not surprisingly, the 1980s would be dominated by action-adventure spectacles rather than searing critiques of American society like Taxi Driver (1976).

The process that started in the 1980s only accelerated after the great recession of 2008. Summing up the current situation, Bessner points out: “The film and TV industry is now controlled by only four major companies, and it is shot through with incentives to devalue the actual production of film and television.”

Private equity is based on debt, which means the resulting quasi-monopolies are overly cautious and obsessed with short-term profits. As a result, the IP model became the dominant form of filmmaking in the 21st century. Bessner notes:

Executives…increasingly believed that they’d found their best bet in “IP”: preexisting intellectual property—familiar stories, characters, and products—that could be milled for scripts. As an associate producer of a successful Aughts IP-driven franchise told me, IP is “sort of a hedge.” There’s some knowledge of the consumer’s interest, he said. “There’s a sort of dry run for the story.” Screenwriter Zack Stentz, who co-wrote the 2011 movies Thor and X-Men: First Class, told me, “It’s a way to take risk out of the equation as much as possible.”

[Scriptwriter John Brancato], who himself found work on Catwoman and two movies in the Terminator franchise in the early Aughts, told me that by the middle of the decade, no one wanted original scripts. IP had proved extremely valuable on the international market—increasingly important as domestic box-office growth stagnated over the course of the Aughts and 2010s—and it began to make up a greater and greater share of studio output.

This model worked well enough for the first two decades of this century. But audiences are souring on a diet of endless sequels and remakes. And if the IP model is dying, it’s not clear what will replace it—especially since the other emerging model, streaming, is itself in deep trouble. Over the last decade, it seemed possible that streaming services (headed by Netflix but also including Apple, HBO Disney and other competitors) could clear a new path for quality filmmaking free of the vices of IP franchises. After all, prestige TV, in the form of HBO shows such as The Sopranos and The Wire, had emerged as an art form celebrated in its own right.

But the growth of streaming services was also fueled by the low interest rates instituted in response to the 2008 recession. This era came to an end in 2022 as the Federal Reserve jacked up interest rates to v down both inflation and wage growth.

High interest rates hurt streaming services, along with other tech industries, because they are fledgling businesses with no track record of strong profits. Their expansion was driven by liquid venture capital needing to park money in speculative ventures that could one day achieve market dominance. Once easy money dried up, streaming services lost access to the funds that drove their rapid growth and ability to create a seemingly endless array of new content. Since then, the streaming services have been sinking, and laying off employees. For cultural workers, it has become increasingly hard to make a middle-class living in Hollywood.

As Bessner sums up:

The industry as a whole is now facing a broad contraction. Between August 2022 and the end of last year, employment fell by 26 percent—more than one job gone in every four. Layoffs hit Warner Bros. Discovery, Netflix, Paramount Global, Roku, and others in 2022. In 2023, firings swept through the representation giants United Talent Agency and Creative Artists Agency; Netflix, Paramount Global, and Roku again; plus Hulu, NBCUniversal, and Lionsgate. In early 2024, it was announced that Amazon was cutting hundreds of jobs from its Prime Video and Amazon MGM Studios divisions. In February, Paramount Global laid off roughly eight hundred people. It’s unclear which streamers will survive. As James Dolan, the interim executive chair of AMC Networks, told employees in late 2022 as he delivered news of massive layoffs—roughly 200 people (20 percent of U.S. staff) would lose their jobs—“the mechanisms for the monetization of content are in disarray.”

To paraphrase Antonio Gramsci, the problem for Hollywood is that the old revenue stream is dying and the new one struggles to be born (indeed, could even die in its cradle). The crisis of Hollywood is fundamentally the crisis of capitalism itself. Like all previous junctures where capitalism fell into crisis, the only solution is outside intervention, whether in the form of government regulation (perhaps to break up the quasi-monopolies) or labor activism (some of which we’ve seen in recent strikes by Hollywood writers and actors).

At the end of his article, Bessner speculates on what form government action or labor militancy could take, but he is rightly pessimistic about any short-term solution. The crisis will have to get much worse before we develop a utopian imagination large enough to solve it.

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Read this again. You didn't read it the first time before replying.

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. . . panicking studios' tendency to throw movies onto streaming after a scant few weeks has permanently altered the "gotta see it on the big screen" urgency.



This is nothing new. It began in 2020 when Democrats shut down all the movie theaters over a case of the sniffles.

Though it hadn't gotten back to pre-2020 levels, both the US and Worldwide Box Offices have seen significant gains in billions grossed over the last 3 years and they were on track to getting back to normal.

Until this year...

The people have been priced out of eating at freakin' McDonalds in Joe Biden*'s economy. They sure as shit aren't thinking about dropping all that money for a night out at the theater when that money is better spent keeping the electricity on, or paying down credit card debt they amassed this month just paying for their regular groceries.

The Democrats have put the fear of the unknown at the forefront of everybody's mind. That's why they're going to lose, again. And the cycle starts all over.


Quote:

Which is all a shame. The movie kinda rules, even if it's a different model of muscle car than Fury Road, and its failure will only convince Hollywood not to bet on eccentric weirdoes with grand visions. See it in theaters while you still can, because it'll probably be released digitally before the month is out.

Where to stream: Nowhere yet, but on Max far too soon.

Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga (2024) -- 50 Box Office Bombs Totally Worth Watching
https://lifehacker.com/entertainment/box-office-bombs-totally-worth-wa
tching



No. This movie will not be released on streaming within a month. It's likely going to get a release sometime in mid July.


Other recent Warner Bros. movies...

Wonka: In theaters on December 15th of 2023. Released on Max on March 8th of 2024.

84 days before released on streaming.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/wonka-confirms-streaming-release-date-19550
0780.html



Godzilla X Kong: The New Empire: In theaters on March 28th. Released on Max on May 14th.

58 days before released on streaming.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/monicamercuri/2024/03/30/when-is-godzilla
-x-kong-the-new-empire-coming-to-streaming-on-max/?sh=3c44b8a46e1b



Dune: Part 2: In theaters on February 29th. Released on Max on May 21st.

82 days before released on streaming.

https://reviewed.usatoday.com/streaming/features/how-watch-dune-part-t
wo-max



Furiosa has only been in theaters for 12 days.

The only way they're releasing this on Max in June is if it just drops to no views at all, immediately. It's already a huge box office flop... there's no reason to shoot themselves in the foot and give people more of a reason not to go see it.





Now... Universal on the other hand? They gave The Fall Guy a digital release only 3 weeks after it came out.

But so what? They released Five Nights at Freddy's on Peacock the very same day they released it in theaters last year and that grossed $297 Million on a $20 Million budget in the 56 days it was in theaters.

Even though it had a same day online release and only cost $20 Million to make, FNAF made more money in 2023 than all but 4 US releases in the first 5 months of 2024.

FNAF cost less than 1/6th of what The Fall Guy cost, was released on streaming on day one instead of after 3 weeks, and it grossed nearly $140 Million more than The Fall Guy has grossed in the theaters. And without having seen either of them I'm willing to bet that FNAF was unarguably the worse movie out of the two.

You seem to have forgotten that we have plenty of recorded data points regarding all of this. 7 months since the release of Five Night's at Freddy's and what we're witnessing is entirely new shift in behavior en masse and over a very short period of time. Studios shortened their box office runs all the way back in 2020 and only a few of them have attempted to go back to the way it was before 2020. That is not what has changed in the short time period that we're discussing now.

Keep pretending that the massive drop in the box office isn't caused by real life issues that people are dealing with here and now and see where it gets you in November.



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Keep pretending that the massive drop in the box office isn't caused by real life issues that people are dealing with here and now and see where it gets you in November.

November Election. Hollywood's ticket sales are down because Trump is not President. -- 6ixStringJack

Movies are crappy. Hollywood's ticket sales are down because movies are available for free on TV. -- second

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Keep pretending that the massive drop in the box office isn't caused by real life issues that people are dealing with here and now and see where it gets you in November.

November Election. Hollywood's ticket sales are down because Trump is not President. -- 6ixStringJack



I'd never say that directly. But Democrat policy the last 3.5 years has made living unaffordable for a majority of Americans despite the constant Legacy Media lies to the contrary.

Five Nights at Freddy's was launched on Peacock the very day it was released in theaters last year and it has outperformed every US release in 2024 except for 4. Most of these failures cost 6 to 10 times as much as FNAF cost to make.

Also, Furiosa will not be seeing a June release. I won't explain myself again because it's already explained in detail why you're wrong, though you choose not to read it twice.

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Movies are crappy. Hollywood's ticket sales are down because movies are available for free on TV. -- second



And you're full of shit. I have data at my fingertips which you choose to ignore.

And you just posted this late last night...

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Which is all a shame. The movie kinda rules, even if it's a different model of muscle car than Fury Road, and its failure will only convince Hollywood not to bet on eccentric weirdoes with grand visions. See it in theaters while you still can, because it'll probably be released digitally before the month is out.


Contradict yourself much?

You look like more of an ass every time you post in the Cinema board.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Contradict yourself much?

You look like more of an ass every time you post in the Cinema board.

6ix, you'd never succeed in business because you are stupid. I will try one more time to get an idea into your thick skull:

There is a movie called Hit Man (2024) with a Worldwide Box Office $985,334
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Hit-Man-(2024)#tab=summary

Why did Hit Man make only $985,334? Because it will be on Netflix tomorrow.
Not because Biden is President did it go on Netflix but because Writer/Director/Producer Richard Linklater made the deal. Linklater has been making movies for decades and he knows that Netflix is where the money is, not at local theaters.

If we lived in another time, Hit Man might have become a surprise summer box office success. As it stands, though, it will join the many other films in the Netflix algorithm. Here’s hoping it doesn’t get buried in the churn; the quality of this latest Linklater film deserves more than that.
https://dallas.culturemap.com/news/entertainment/linklater-hit-man-mov
ie-review
/

6ix, I doubt you understand anything about anything, especially making money in the movie business, because you are so goddamn stupid, not even smart enough to sense you know nothing, much like blowhard Trump.

By the way, Trump is going to jail and his angry poor white trash Trumptards are going to hell with him when he fails to take over the US. 6ix, your life is a disappointment to your divorced parents because you are lazy, stupid, and crazy.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, June 6, 2024 9:52 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


The box office was doing great last year compared to 2024.

The release date for movies to streaming did not change between 2023 and 2024.


Maybe for the fourth time in a row you can explain that instead of throwing out insults.

I'll keep this message short as to not trigger your ADHD.

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Friday, June 7, 2024 11:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

The correct answer is obvious, but you do have to make a choice. Inevitably, some people choose the worst option because they are stupid. Theater owners' prosperity and Trump depend on the stupidity of entertainment consumers:

On one hand, you can pay $10.25 (or $7.50 for seniors) to see Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga at Baytown, Jun 7, 9:50 pm. No outside food or drink is permitted because, you know, they want another $10.25 for snacks and drinks.
https://www.showbizcinemas.com/film-info/baytown/furiosa-a-mad-max-sag
a
/

On the other hand, pay nothing to see Furiosa when it is streaming. Can't wait? You can pay nothing today to see 24 hours of Sweet Tooth, post-apocalypse entertainment set in a cold land rather than the heat of Australia as is Furiosa.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/sweet_tooth
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/furiosa_a_mad_max_saga



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, June 7, 2024 2:20 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


There's no sense trying to reason with a cultist.

Why don't you just go back into the RWED forum to argue. I've grown bored with you and your stolen opinions.

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Monday, June 10, 2024 8:35 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


its over!?

some hoped for a 50.5 million opening in Chinese to save it like one of those Titanic or Godzillia films

'$3.6M debut in China.'
https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/32293-furiosa-a-mad-max-saga/

that's a disaster


other markets the French, the British, Japan, Germany, South Korea, Australia
...not Russia (under sanctions?)

twitter aka X
https://x.com/BORReport/status/1799834393768525972

Budget $168 million
https://web.archive.org/web/20240514234354/https://deadline.com/video/
anya-taylor-joy-reveals-why-she-felt-so-alone-while-making-furiosa-cannes-studio
/

‘Bad Boys: Ride Or Die’ Speeds To $105M Global Opening; ‘Garfield’ Nears $200M WW – International Box Office
https://deadline.com/2024/06/bad-boys-ride-or-die-furiosa-garfield-glo
bal-international-box-office-1235963412
/
Of the 60 markets released this session, the UK leads with $4.9M (+ 31% over Furiosa). Mexico was next with $4.2M, followed by Germany at $3.7M (2.5x Furiosa and 77% over Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes) and Saudi Arabia also at $3.7M (the first ever Hollywood premiere in Riyadh having paid dividends). Rounding out the Top 5, France collared $3.1M (+28% vs. Furiosa). Markets still to release include Italy, Japan and China later this month.


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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:


This one might be losing Warner Bros. something on the level of what Argylle lost for Universal earlier this year, relative to their respective budgets.



'Barbie' was last year but

They still have a new Batman movie? or Harry Potter or Matrix, Twister or something??

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Monday, June 10, 2024 1:27 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:


This one might be losing Warner Bros. something on the level of what Argylle lost for Universal earlier this year, relative to their respective budgets.



'Barbie' was last year but

They still have a new Batman movie? or Harry Potter or Matrix, Twister or something??



A new Batman movie isn't slated until October of 2026 according to The-Numbers.

I don't see anything about Harry Potter or the Matrix in the release schedule.

https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/release-schedule

Twisters is coming out on July 19th, but I've already predicted that one at a big failure with it's $200 Million budget. That's also a Universal movie, so that won't be Warner Bros.' loss.



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Monday, June 10, 2024 1:57 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack (June 2nd):
Turns out Bruce knows international numbers before he puts them up on his site. At least for some movies. He says in his projections article today that Furiosa has made $64.7 Million internationally so far. This is not surprising as it fits in perfectly with a trend where a movie doubles its international take on the 2nd weekend because it has 4 week days added to it, and Internationals on opening weekend were $32.5 Million.

Furiosa's worldwide total after 2 weekends is $114.37 Million.

It needs $420 Million to break even.

We're still only at 68% of the Production Budget 10 days into the run.

This one might be losing Warner Bros. something on the level of what Argylle lost for Universal earlier this year, relative to their respective budgets.



Furiosa slips to 6th place on weekend 3, with back-to-back 60% drops.

https://www.the-numbers.com/weekend-box-office-chart

International total now sits at $85.7 Million, which means an additional $21 Million from last week.

Worldwide Total now stands at $144.38 Million, which means that it's only gained $9 Million in the US over the last week.


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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack (May 26th):
Oh yeah... This is also a worse opening weekend than both Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire ($61 Million) or The Fall Guy ($64.4 Million), even though it cost $68 Million more to make than Ghostbusters and $43 Million more than The Fall Guy.

Ghostbusters looks like it will eek out that $200 Million box office with $199.6 Million after 66 days in theaters. The Fall Guy at only $144 Million in 26 days has a long way to go to even hit that number.

Will Mad Max even hit $200 Million? Probably not.





Best case scenario now would be 40% drops from week to week.

Weekend 4: $162,380,000 (+18 Million)
Weekend 5: $173,180,000 (+10.8 Million) [5 weekends to break even on budget]
Weekend 6: $179,660,000 (+6.48 Million)

At this point, I'm sure WB will be releasing it on streaming, even though it will probably stay in theaters a while longer to make a few more bucks with the slow summer box office of 2024.

I believe the above numbers are a high prediction, but I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt at only -40% losses week-to-week from here on out, despite the -60% losses they've experienced up until this point.

Even if Furiosa gets 9 weeks in theaters, it's got about a zero percent probability of grossing $200 Million worldwide now. It would take some unprecedented act-of-god word-of-mouth event for that to ever happen at this point.

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Tuesday, June 11, 2024 6:18 AM

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Why ‘Furiosa’ Wasn’t a Box Office Blockbuster, Explained
Movies Like Furiosa Were Never Meant to Save Hollywood

By Bilge Ebiri | May 29, 2024

https://www.vulture.com/article/movies-like-furiosa-were-never-meant-t
o-save-hollywood.html


I didn’t have any hair left to pull out over the supposed failure of Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga at the box office this past weekend because I’d already pulled all of it out over the supposed failure of The Fall Guy several weeks ago. Summer hasn’t even started yet, and already Hollywood is calling it the Summer of Woe with big releases underperforming wildly.

Honestly, most of us shouldn’t care. The important thing about Furiosa is that it exists, mad and uncompromising. So what if it flopped? So did Fight Club, and Speed Racer, and The Adventures of Baron Munchhausen, and It’s a Wonderful Life — movies that didn’t make anybody any real money at first but that made the world of cinema a richer place.

But the noise is inescapable nowadays. With each new disappointment, voices emerge out of the woodwork claiming to know why the movies are failing: Some are convinced that the films aren’t good enough, others that the marketers screwed it all up, or the original properties weren’t that popular in the first place, or tickets are too expensive, or everybody’s still afraid of getting sick. Everybody has an idea, but nobody has a clue.

In truth, whenever you’re talking about individual decisions made (or not made) by millions of people, the reasons will vary greatly. This time last year, everybody was pronouncing the death of superhero movies and the sad end of the long reign of Disney and Pixar. Now the only movies this summer that seem to be guaranteed successes are Deadpool v. Wolverine and Inside/Out 2.

But Hollywood is in the midst of a transition, whether it realizes it or not. Ironically, it’s a transition that many of us have wanted for some time: Fewer gigantic productions that need massive opening weekends to justify their humongous costs; more solid films that can turn a profit over a few weeks and months thanks to good word of mouth. The smash-and-grab opening-weekend strategy was never going to be sustainable, and the industry had become alarmingly reliant on an increasingly small handful of titles saving their bottom lines. It was just a matter of time before enough of these failed to perform, sending the industry into an existential tailspin. COVID, production delays, strikes, and things like franchise fatigue have all contributed to these current doldrums.

The system currently in place still relies on massive opening weekends. The calendar remains built around tentpoles, regardless of whether those movies should be considered tentpoles in the first place. (As many have noted, Mad Max: Fury Road was itself not a gargantuan hit. It was that pesky creature Hollywood doesn’t quite know what to do with: a beloved work of art that did okay business.) Large releases get out of one another’s way so that they can each have their big weekends. Promotion and advertising are thoroughly focused on the first weekend, and they largely drop out soon thereafter. If a movie opens below expectations, people like us write about it, thus continuing to propagate the idea that opening weekend is all that matters.

Amid the hubbub, there is one small truth few people have paid attention to. In the weeks following its soft opening, The Fall Guy posted an admirable box-office hold. It dropped 50 percent in its second weekend, which is pretty great in our current, opening-weekend-focused era, especially considering that the film lost almost all its pricier premium screens (IMAX, RPX, 4DX, etc.) to Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes. Furiosa, a very good movie well liked by the people who did bother to see it, might do something similar. Will those numbers be enough to make back its large price tag, including marketing? No, probably not. Will any of these films leg out over several months to qualify themselves as genuine hits? No, probably not. Because they were released into a universe where opening weekend was all that mattered. Furiosa has nowhere to go but down from here as it loses screens and press and its marketing footprint vanishes. Because we’re still expecting tentpole results from non-tentpole movies.

Within the vortex of disappointment are a few bright spots. Sony’s Anyone But You, for example, opened last December below expectations but then legged it out over weeks during the holidays to a very good $219 million worldwide box office. Yes, it’s absurd to compare that movie to Furiosa. Anyone But You cost $25 million, Furiosa almost $170 million. $219 million is an amazing result for the former; it would be a disaster for the latter. But the success of a romantic comedy — a long-moribund genre — featuring two not-quite-huge stars is an indication that moviegoer behavior may be changing and that the film industry should consider changing alongside it. The rom-com was one of the biggest casualties of Hollywood’s drive toward four-quadrant mega-tentpoles, as executives convinced themselves that audiences no longer wanted to see such films — at least not in theaters. That there is life again in that old genre suggests that there may be life in other genres as well and that some movies can actually build their audiences over time. But in order to do so, we have to abandon the destructive binary in which only the biggest movies get to open in theaters while smaller, more marginal releases — the ones that actually demand attention and care — are seen as disposable streaming junk.

Because Universal has already put The Fall Guy out on digital — premium video on demand (PVOD), not streaming, so you still have to pay for it, sorry — the idea that you have to go to the theater to experience it is out the window. (Though it did post its best hold just this past weekend, when it was already available digitally.) The studio did this not because it had some petty grievance against The Fall Guy; Universal has an in-house understanding that if a movie opens under $40 million, it goes to PVOD after two and a half weeks. A similar fate likely awaits Furiosa at Warner Bros. Unfortunately, all that adds to a subconscious expectation in the mind of moviegoers that seeing films in theaters is really not that important, since the movies will be out digitally soon enough. The studios are to blame for fostering this belief in viewers over the past several years, as they’ve inadvertently terraformed a movie landscape completely hostile to their actual business. But they have to shed this kind of thinking if they are to succeed. Because along with the understanding that not all studio releases have to live or die on opening weekend must come a willingness to let these pictures live in theaters for some period of time to see how they perform as audiences actually see them and talk about them. The more you convince people that almost everything will just show up on Netflix in a few weeks, the more you poison your own well.

Remember, last year’s summer box office was also supposed to be woeful, before Barbenheimer came along and saved it. There were many reasons for the twin successes of Barbie and Oppenheimer, obviously, and both movies certainly opened huge. But they also had legs: Their opening weekends were only about a fourth of their overall box office because they stuck around in theaters for months, benefiting from the fact that people liked them and told others to see them, the discourse snowballing until everybody wanted to know what the fuss was about. That’s how those pictures conquered the Zeitgeist. Something similar happened the previous year with two other big hits of the COVID era, Top Gun: Maverick and Avatar: The Way of Water (which, let’s not forget, opened low enough that one of my critic pals speculated James Cameron had been delusional in dedicating himself to making more Avatar movies).

But in order for the American movie industry to become saner and more sustainable, it has to give up on the idea that the only thing that matters is opening weekends and the only things that can make money are the biggest of movies. To do that will mean recommitting to making better films, and not just jockeying around the latest hot IP or drowning us in a whirlpool of overpriced sequels and prequels and reboots and spinoffs. Oddly enough, a more varied approach will be more beneficial for the bigger movies too. Because in a world like that, an expensive oddity like Furiosa won’t be placed in the suddenly untenable position of having to save an entire industry.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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With a disastrous summer box office, Hollywood reaps what it sowed
Hollywood gets the crummy summer box office it paid for - Los Angeles Times

By Ryan Faughnder | June 4, 2024

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/newsletter/2024-06
-04/wide-shot-june-4-edition-the-wide-shot


A Hollywood movie can be two things at the same time. It can be a great piece of art and also a poor business decision. It often takes years to find out if the first designation applies. With the second, people know right away, for the most part.

“Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga” is a commercial bomb. There’s no way around it. The prequel opened to a disappointing $32 million during the long Memorial Day weekend. In its second go-around, it dropped 59%, coming in third place behind Sony Pictures’ animated “The Garfield Movie” and Paramount Pictures’ John Krasinski-directed hybrid “If.”

The George Miller-directed action thriller’s box office tally of $50 million domestic ($114 million worldwide) so far on a $168-million production budget is just plain bad, adding to the summer woes that have the movie exhibition industry in a spiral of existential dread, once again.

The numbers for the theater chains are worrying, overall, with May doing nothing to quell the trepidation that kicked off with the previous month and the sluggishness of “The Fall Guy.”

According to David A. Gross’s FranchiseRe newsletter https://franchisere.substack.com/ — a reliable source of level-headed box office analysis — May domestic grosses were down 43% from the average of the three years before the COVID-19 pandemic. Ticket sales so far this year have fallen nearly 25% from the same period in 2023.

The reasons for the decline are fairly straightforward. I tend to agree with Gross’ perspective: that for a variety of reasons, including production delays induced by last year’s writers’ and actors’ strikes and a general pullback by cost-conscious studios, there haven’t been enough movies, and the films that have been released aren’t hitting in the way they need to be.

The hollowed out release schedule is doing the expected damage. This past weekend had no new releases in the domestic top five. This week, Sony will try to liven things up with “Bad Boys: Ride or Die.”

“Moviegoing thrives on momentum and rhythm: one strong movie after another bringing fans to the multiplex once or more per month,” Gross wrote. “Right now, the schedule is thin, several big releases fell short, and the original stories are not breaking through (with the exception of ‘If’).”

It’s also clear to me that there are broader structural issues at work. The combination of the pandemic theater closures, the six-month production disruption and the age of post-streaming wars austerity has conspired to constrict the supply of studio films in theaters. But there’s also the increasing consumer mind-share taken up by streaming, video games, social media and cheap, free short-form online content.

Add to that the entertainment giants’ self-sabotaging strategy of shortening the theatrical window in a way that has trained at least some viewers to wait at home for anything other than a “Barbenheimer”-level cultural phenomenon. There’s also the fact that consumer motivations have changed in a fundamental way for a number of people. If seeing a movie in theaters doesn’t have any social media cachet, why bother paying a babysitter?

But these issues don’t explain the failure of “Furiosa,” which was fairly predictable. Prequels are a tough sell for audiences. How many prequels have actually succeeded in recent years? Certainly not “Solo: A Star Wars Story.” Paramount will again test the audience’s appetite later this month with “A Quiet Place: Day One,” an extension of its successful horror franchise.

By the way, maybe let’s stop putting “A So-and-So Story and/or Saga” in movie titles for the time being. That formulation doesn’t appear to be enticing people.

Anyway, “Furiosa’s” struggles have inspired think pieces positing that Hollywood has fallen victim to its own sky-high, irrational box office expectations. https://www.vulture.com/article/movies-like-furiosa-were-never-meant-t
o-save-hollywood.html
My colleague Mary McNamara made such an argument, referring to the current situation as a “box office doom loop.” https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/movies/story/2024-05-28/box
-office-furiosa-garfield-fall-guy-if-planet-of-the-apes


My own reaction to the “Furiosa” performance is narrower and more basic. The movie just didn’t work as a commercial product.

As we’ve discussed previously, “Mad Max: Fury Road,” which grossed $380 million globally, wasn’t even that big of a hit in the first place, though its reputation has grown massively since its debut in 2015. So yes, betting on a prequel was a major gamble, banking on the hope that people outside the core demographic of men over age 35 would care. Generally speaking, they didn’t.

A big budget bomb is undoubtedly bad news for Warner Bros. But it says something about the state of the film business that the fate of Warner Bros. Discovery hinges more on whether David Zaslav can hold onto the NBA rights for TNT.

So yes, film fans can be grateful that “Furiosa” exists and disappointed that it flopped. But while the film depicts the aftermath of a terrifying apocalypse, it isn’t, by itself, necessarily a sign of one.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, June 11, 2024 12:39 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


That's funny.

I'll bet these same outfits and possibly even the writers themselves were praising this type of behavior from the studios during covid.

They have to. Because it's so obvious to everybody now how bad Hollywood is hurting and they can't lie about it anymore. So they need to blame it on studio policy they once praised, because they're sure as shit not going to admit that it was years of DEI programs and woke agenda programming that is responsible for it. Or how Joe Biden* and Democrats ruined the economy.

No matter. They won't be employed for very much longer now that the free money has run out.


The woke problem has been fixed BECAUSE the money ran out. It's June 11th and you wouldn't even realize it was pride month if you didn't spend a lot of time on the internet. It was absolutely, inescapably in-your-face every minute in the summers of 2020 and 2021, and now not a fuckin' peep out of them this year. Not a single large company supporting pride month in 2024.

Society's healing isn't going to come because Trump gets reelected. Joe Biden* already started that healing process when he doomed the economy with his administration's terrible stewardship.

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