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The Snow White Failure Thread

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$1,348,109 on Monday.

Worldwide total after 11 days: $144,119,098

"Film" needs $675 Million to break even.

"Film" won't come anywhere close to $300 Million.



Blacktain Anti-America remains $42 Million away from breaking even and grossed $300k on Monday.

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LOL @ Lefty cope article from the New Yorker.

You will all be replaced with AI soon.

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6ix, you didn't understand that review. I see why you have suffered easily avoidable difficulties with life, but you don't see why, which is at the troubled heart of every Trumptard's life in America, including even Trump's absurdly troubled life history in business, marriage and politics. He will never know, and neither will his Trumptards, how straight forward life is if you are not Goofy, a Disney cartoon character.

The entire point of Hollywood has always been, even in the days of silent movies, to separate stupid people from their money. That is what the American dream factory does. Make money. When you can watch the dreams for free on TV, assuming you learned that dreams are NOT worth buying, the dream factory makes less money. Too bad, so sad, for Hollywood, but it has known for decades that eventually the magic trick of converting empty entertainment into cash would falter and malfunction.

P.S. There is an entire show trying to make money off of that insight. The Studio "Follows a legacy Hollywood movie studio striving to survive in a world where it is increasingly difficult for art and business to live together." https://psa.wf/tv-show/the-studio/

The Studio Episode 1 Bittorrent Link: f64d19a0d914f1d9509256ec2e2b141e02696811

The Studio Episode 2 Bittorrent Link: d99dce2c62cc36eb961c7f67236ed80380ba8dbc

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Season 1 Premiere: Mar 26, 2025
Metascore 80 out of 100

Generally Favorable Based on 37 Critic Reviews

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Disney’s “Snow White” Remake Whistles But Doesn’t Work

By Justin Chang | March 22, 2025

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-current-cinema/disneys-snow-whit
e-remake-whistles-but-doesnt-work


Nothing good ever seems to come of Gal Gadot singing. Those of us with clear memories of March, 2020, during the early days of pandemic lockdown, may recall the video montage she beamed out of herself and other celebrities, all warbling John Lennon’s “Imagine.” It was meant to bring us together, and on that score it was a total success. Amid a crisis of mass illness, unemployment, poverty, and death, the internet users of the world—suddenly faced with an off-key medley of hope, performed by famous people sheltering in multimillion-dollar hideaways—found themselves united in pure, unmitigated hatred. Only a few days into quarantine, a loathsome instant classic of Hollywood vacuity had been born.

Now, five years later, Gadot is singing a new tune, and how. She doesn’t warble; she belts, or at least makes a valiant attempt. Her backdrop is not a mansion but a palace, where she descends a Vegas-ready grand staircase, with bewimpled ladies-in-waiting as backup dancers. And what she sings is not a song of hope but an anthem of fascist aggression: “All is fair when you wear the crown / A little perk that your power provides / If they dare speak up, swat them down / She, with the diamonds, decides.” Here it may be worth noting that Gadot delivers this performance in the new film “Snow White,” Disney’s live-action remake of its own 1937 animated masterwork, “Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.” She plays the Evil Queen (“She. Was. Evil!” a narrator helpfully intones), which accounts for the severity of Gadot’s royal regalia: a black balaclava-style hood, a glittering cloak, and an enormous stained-glass crown so sharp and spiky that Her Majesty might have run headfirst through a cathedral window.

Gadot has worn ridiculous things before, notably and delightfully as Wonder Woman in various DC Comics movies, but then the role of Diana Prince was particularly well tailored to her charisma and behind-the-beat comic timing. In “Wonder Woman” (2017), as a demigoddess encountering the oddity of the human world for the first time, Gadot projected a pleasurable fish-out-of-water disorientation—a disarming mix of courage and naïveté. But, in “Snow White,” she must embody exactly the opposite, and the strain is immense. Tasked with reinterpreting one of the most frightening and emblematic villains in the Disney canon, Gadot evinces no feel for malevolent cunning, or even knowing cynicism; smacked down repeatedly by her Magic Mirror, she can barely conjure a decently icy glare in response. The great Jean Marsh, who gave us such blood-freezing villainy in “Return to Oz” (1985) and “Willow” (1988), makes Gadot’s Evil Queen look like the mushiest of poisoned apples.

Snow White herself does offer something of an antidote. She is played by Rachel Zegler, who, from the moment she appears, wearing scullery rags and a smile, reveals a winning calibration of radiant innocence and underdog conviction. Although Snow White has lost her parents and finds herself at her stepmother’s unreliable mercy, she hasn’t abandoned hope; she’s “waiting on a wish,” to quote the most tuneful of several new songs, written by Benj Pasek and Justin Paul. The Snow White of 1937, voiced by the opera singer Adriana Caselotti, leaned over a well and sang, “I’m wishing,” with sublime, lilting simplicity; Snow White 2025, by contrast, must dart hither and yon, across seemingly half the castle grounds, as she croons her way through a breath-sapping manifesto of self-empowerment.

And, against considerable odds, Zegler sells every word. She has the gift, rarer than it seems, of not only singing well but also acting well as she sings; her pipes are as potent, and her nerves as steely, as they were when she made her sterling film début, as Maria, in Steven Spielberg’s “West Side Story” (2021). One day, Zegler may well tire of headlining faintly sacrilegious remakes of beloved movie musicals, and rightly so; based on her track record so far, though, I can register no complaint.

The internet, however, has registered plenty. When Zegler, who is of Colombian descent, was first cast in the film, racist trolls across the land registered their displeasure, much as they had done when Halle Bailey, a Black singer and actress, was cast as Ariel in “The Little Mermaid” (2023). In subsequent interviews, Zegler offered some mild criticism of “Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs,” pointing out its dated sexual politics, and noted that she would be playing a bolder, less lovelorn, more proactive fairy-tale heroine. Her remarks, mild as they were, generated fierce backlash. From there, the controversies snowballed. The less said the better about the vague rumors of a feud between Zegler, a vocal pro-Palestinian advocate, and Gadot, an Israeli actor who has been staunchly supportive of Israel, and whose own involvement with the film has fuelled calls for a boycott.

“Snow White,” in other words, may be the latest in a long, generally uninspired, and cumulatively numbing line of Disney remakes. But the sheer breadth of pre-release ill will it’s accumulated, across such a broad swath of the political spectrum, feels almost impressive. By the time the film finally arrived in theatres this week, it had sprouted almost as many controversies as dwarfs—and, of course, the issue of dwarfs predictably triggered one of the movie’s very first representational dustups. In 2022, the actor Peter Dinklage, who has a form of dwarfism, expressed his annoyance that Disney was “still making that fucking backward story about seven dwarfs living in a cave.”

Although Disney promised to approach that aspect of the story with greater sensitivity, purists can rest assured that the director Marc Webb and the screenwriter Erin Cressida Wilson have seen fit to keep Doc, Grumpy, Happy, Sleepy, Sneezy, Bashful, and Dopey in the picture. They still toil merrily in a diamond mine, albeit one that’s been souped up to resemble a future high-speed Disneyland ride, and they still sing “Heigh-Ho,” though a version that has been tricked out with extended, over-explanatory lyrics. But the word “dwarfs” has been conspicuously banished from the movie’s title, and it is never once uttered in the film, which takes pains to emphasize that the seven men are nonhuman creatures. Indeed, there is a dispiriting absence of humanity in their bulbous and curmudgeonly computer-generated faces; the less human they look, the logic seems to go, the less offended any actual humans will be.

There are other, less perplexing differences. For one, the little men—for convenience, let’s call them the Seven—do not return to their woodland cottage, as they did in the 1937 film, to find that Snow White and various four-legged forest denizens have cleaned the place from top to bottom. This time, the Seven tidy up the house with Snow White, who calls the shots, delegates the tasks, and shrewdly chips away at the notion of household chores as purely women’s work. Fortunately, Snow White’s newfound enlightenment does not deny her the possibility of romance, although princes are now strictly off-limits; her love interest here is a fetchingly impudent bandit, Jonathan (Andrew Burnap), who is leading a scrappy rebellion against the Evil Queen.

Snow White and Jonathan—honestly, it doesn’t sound promising. Who wants a fairy tale to end with “And Cinderella and Bob lived happily ever after”? Still, Zegler and Burnap do make a cute duo, even in cloying magic-hour interludes illuminated by highly swattable C.G.I. fireflies. From time to time, you are reminded of the fleet romantic-comedy touch that Webb brought, years earlier, to “(500) Days of Summer” (2009) and parts of “The Amazing Spider-Man” (2012). Mostly, though, you are arrested by the combativeness of the characters’ screwball banter, much of which is devoted to the explication of clashing political ideologies. How do you overthrow an Evil Queen—by trying to reason with her, or by pillaging the castle’s food stores and giving back to the subjects who are starving under her reign of terror? The film makes more than a token effort to explore the material and psychological realities of life under fascist rule, and the transformation of a charming agrarian utopia into an austere military dictatorship. In these moments, “Snow White” doesn’t feel entirely like a fairy tale; it’s like “I’m Still Here” with C.G.I. chipmunks.

Does that make Gadot’s Evil Queen the fairy-tale embodiment of Trump? Putin? (Netanyahu?) To even ask such questions is to imbue “Snow White” with an undeniable, even ostentatious, resonance. Seen from another angle, it bears out the calculation—as well as the mounting futility—of the interminable Disney remake project, which, from Day One, has exuded a cynical, self-cannibalizing reek. The cynicism derives from at least two interrelated forms of corporate cowardice. With a few rare exceptions—I’m thinking fondly of Tim Burton’s endearingly nutty 2019 remix of “Dumbo”—the remakes have smacked of a maddening artistic timidity, a reluctance to irritate fans by departing too boldly from classic material. That blandness has gone hand in hand with a shifty political opportunism, marked by half-hearted representational milestones—Ariel is Black! LeFou is gay (sort of)!—that Disney has either celebrated or downplayed, depending on which faction it’s trying to avoid offending at any given moment.

None of this could be further removed from the spirit, let alone the sheer overpowering visual beauty, of the original “Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.” A work of art made with wild risk and abundant imagination, the film looks like classicism now but was, in 1937, nothing short of revolutionary. One of the first full-length animated features ever made, it proved especially ingenious in its use of the multi-plane camera, with hand-drawn backdrops on shifting layers of glass, so that when Snow White fled into the darkness of a haunted forest, her terror—and ours—was amplified by an artful and astonishing illusion of depth. The new “Snow White” has its own illusions of depth, though not the kind that one can commend.


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The “Snow White” Controversy, Like Our Zeitgeist, Is Both Stupid and Sinister

Placing the failure of the live-action remake largely at Rachel Zegler’s feet is almost perversely flattering to her.

By Jessica Winter | April 1, 2025

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-lede/the-snow-white-controversy-
like-our-zeitgeist-is-both-stupid-and-sinister


Why has Disney’s new live-action remake of “Snow White” flopped at the box office? Is it because the dull trailer looked A.I.-generated, or because the film’s stars, Rachel Zegler and Gal Gadot, appear to have sourced their costumes and makeup from Party City? Is it because the film personifies Hollywood’s status as a bottle-and-can redemption center for moldering I.P.? Is it for being a movie nobody asked for, about a princess who falls asleep?

The prospect of the “Snow White” reboot has been irritating various constituencies for some time. Conservative critics griped that Zegler, who is partly of Colombian descent, wasn’t white (these kinds of complaints were louder a few years back, when the Black actress Halle Bailey was cast in Disney’s live-action “Little Mermaid”). Some were offended that Zegler talked trash about the 1937 original. The actor Peter Dinklage questioned why the story was being dusted off at all. “You’re progressive in one way,” Dinklage said, referring to Zegler’s casting, “but you’re still making that fucking backward story about seven dwarves living in a cave—what the fuck are you doing?”

At some point, Disney started asking itself the same question. Despite the film’s two-hundred-and-seventy-million-dollar budget, the studio scaled back the première and promotional blitz and may have delayed making tickets available for pre-order. Currently, on IMDb, “Snow White” is being “review-bombed,” with more than ninety-one per cent of users giving it the lowest rating: one out of ten.

Recent articles in Hollywood’s top industry broadsheets pin much of the blame on Zegler. The Hollywood Reporter observed that the movie “has been under fire for years on social media due to a combination of the film’s progressive creative decisions”—presumably referring to Zegler’s casting—“and star Rachel Zegler’s controversial comments.” In a Variety article, which promised to take readers “Inside Disney’s ‘Snow White’ Fiasco,” a “top agent” rebuked the studio for permitting the twenty-three-year-old actress to “control the narrative” by making a lighthearted quip to a reporter about the stalker-like qualities of the original movie’s Prince Florian. “The first time she shoots her mouth off, you nip it in the bud,” this agent said. (Incidentally, the screenwriter of the new “Snow White,” Erin Cressida Wilson, has said that she centered the character’s journey toward “discovering and trusting her own voice and her own purpose with compassion and strength.”)

Variety also zoomed in on an episode from August, shortly after a teaser for the movie dropped, when Zegler shared a message of gratitude to fans on X, adding, in a separate post, “and always remember, free palestine.” The article implied that Zegler’s post fuelled death threats against her co-star Gadot, who is Israeli. It also reported that one of the film’s producers, Marc Platt, was so incensed by Zegler’s pro-Palestine message that he flew to New York to admonish her in person about it.

The detail about Platt seemed to strain credulity, but it was later confirmed by his son Jonah, who wrote on Instagram, “Yeah, my dad, the producer of enormous piece of Disney IP with hundreds of millions of dollars on the line, had to leave his family to to fly across the country to reprimand his 20 year old employee for dragging her personal politics into the middle of promoting the movie for which she signed a multi-million dollar contract to get paid and do publicity for. This is called adult responsibility and accountability. And her actions clearly hurt the film’s box office.” The younger Platt may have also been alluding to an Instagram post that Zegler made following the November elections, in which she lamented the “deep, deep sickness in this country that is shown in the sheer amount of people who showed up for this man who threatens our democracy.” She concluded, “Fuck Donald Trump.” Zegler later apologized for her Trump-related remarks, saying, “I let my emotions get the best of me.”

Placing the failure of “Snow White” largely at Zegler’s feet—as many insiders in Hollywood are evidently eager to do—is almost perversely flattering to her. The Walt Disney Company has a market cap of nearly a hundred and eighty billion dollars, and yet, in Variety’s telling, this international conglomerate could not “overcome the backlash that had been brewing like a fairy tale cauldron.” I am no box-office analyst, but, for what it’s worth, my kids are squarely in the “Snow White” demographic, and I don’t think they were lukewarm on going to see it because its star has insufficiently nuanced opinions about Prince Florian, President Trump, or the Israel-Hamas war. (An open letter from film journalists criticizing Variety’s coverage of Zegler has about a hundred and eighty signatures.)

The reasons behind the implosion of “Snow White” are structural and multifaceted, and emblematic of an industry that has no new concepts and poor judgment about which of its old ideas warrant revival. For example, Disney recently pulled the plug on a streaming series based on “The Princess and the Frog,” which is easily the best and most modern of the Disney-princess movies: glorious New Orleans blues-jazz-gospel soundtrack, outrageously stacked cast, makes an airtight case for marrying for money—the works. (And no dwarves in caves!) Whether it’s the fate of “Snow White” to become a symbol of the anti-woke, anti-D.E.I. fervor that characterizes the Trump II era or it’s simply a casualty of reboot fatigue, the identity and political views of one performer could never have sunk the film on their own.

The Platt anecdote and the framing of the Variety article in which it first appeared point to what is perhaps the most interesting aspect of the “Snow White” debacle: the film’s position in a larger narrative about which kinds of views on the Israel-Palestine conflict are acceptable in Hollywood—or anywhere in the U.S. circa 2025, really—and who is permitted to air them. The top Hollywood agent Maha Dakhil stepped away from her role as co-chief of C.A.A.’s motion-pictures department after she shared—and then deleted and profusely apologized for—an Instagram post that referred to Israel’s military attack on Gaza as “genocide.” The actress Melissa Barrera was fired from the “Scream” franchise for expressing pro-Palestinian sentiments online. In contrast, the actor Mark Ruffalo won his fourth Oscar nomination in 2024 despite vocal opposition on social media and elsewhere to Israel’s military actions in Gaza. Ruffalo’s fellow-actor Guy Pearce, one of the most prominent pro-Palestine voices in the film world, earned his first Academy Award nomination this year and sat in the front row at the ceremony, where “No Other Land,” about the I.D.F.’s demolition of a Palestinian community in the West Bank, won the Oscar for documentary feature.

In other words, there would appear to be space in Hollywood to demonstrate sympathy for the more than fifty thousand human beings that Israeli military forces have killed in Gaza, as well as for the roughly twelve hundred human beings that Hamas killed in its October 7th terror attack on Israel. But you must be the right sort of person to demonstrate such sympathies, and you must use the correct terminology. One might speculate that Ruffalo and Pearce have more latitude than Dakhil and Barerra because they are both middle-aged white men. And yet, last year, after the director Jonathan Glazer won an Oscar for his astonishing Holocaust film, “The Zone of Interest,” an open letter circulated in Hollywood to condemn his acceptance speech as supporting a “blood libel,” attracting more than a thousand signatories (Jonah Platt among them). One Academy member likened Glazer’s measured words to a “Hamas rally.” Among Glazer’s offenses was in using the word “occupation” to refer to the occupied territories and invoking the “dehumanization” of both Israelis and Palestinians in the ongoing war.

The tenor of this conversation presumably informed a recent statement issued by the C.E.O. and president of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, after Hamdan Ballal, the Palestinian co-director of “No Other Land,” was badly beaten by Israeli settlers in his West Bank village and then detained overnight on an Israeli military base, his whereabouts unknown to family and friends for hours. “Understandably, we are often asked to speak on behalf of the Academy in response to social, political, and economic events,” the AMPAS statement read in part. “In these instances, it is important to note that the Academy represents close to 11,000 global members with many unique viewpoints.” The text did not mention Ballal by name, or enumerate any of the unique viewpoints one might have on his terrifying situation. (After an outcry by hundreds of Academy members, AMPAS issued an apology for neglecting to name Ballal.)

The organization released its non-statement of non-support on behalf of a freshly minted Oscar winner on the same day that video emerged of a Tufts University student, Rumeysa Ozturk, being accosted outside her apartment building by masked, plainclothes ICE agents; she was handcuffed, detained, and flown to a facility in Louisiana, reportedly for co-authoring an op-ed in a student newspaper citing Israel’s “clear violations of international law” in Gaza. Ozturk’s arrest, which has sparked worldwide condemnation, was made possible by precisely the two conditions that Zegler’s controversial posts acknowledged: the subjugation of Palestinians and the election of Donald Trump.

The attacks on a wealthy young actor like Zegler for her political stance may scarcely bear direct comparison to the violations of human rights allegedly endured by Ozturk, or Mahmoud Khalil, a Palestinian green-card holder who, in early March, was arrested by ICE agents in the lobby of his Columbia University–owned apartment building and now faces deportation. But a commonality between them is that they work within ostensibly powerful cultural institutions that are now under assault by the Trump Administration. Columbia, along with Harvard and other universities, may lose hundreds of millions of dollars in federal funding owing to allegations that they allowed antisemitism to flourish on their campuses during the antiwar protests of late 2023 and 2024. Disney and its subsidiary ABC—which settled a defamation lawsuit with Trump in December for fifteen million dollars—is now under F.C.C. investigation for possibly breaching “equal employment opportunity regulations by promoting invidious forms of DEI discrimination,” according to Brendan Carr, the agency’s new chair. In a letter addressed to Disney’s C.E.O., Carr cited ABC’s “Inclusion Standards,” which called for the network to draw from “underrepresented groups” for its casts and crews, and in creating its characters. In other words, we may now be living in a world in which casting a Latina actress as Snow White is not only infuriating to online edgelords but a purported violation of federal law. And, if a Ph.D. candidate can be jailed for speech and threatened with deportation, it may follow that so can a showrunner, a filmmaker, or an actress who “shoots her mouth off.”

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Mirror Mirror (2012) was another version of the Snow White fairy tale. It did not sell many tickets but Disney made their 2025 version in hopes that it would do better than the 2012 version. Didn’t work out.

Mirror Mirror Production Budget: $85,000,000 (worldwide box office is 2.0 times production budget)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Mirror-Mirror#tab=summary

About Mirror Mirror: This Live-Action Snow White Adaptation Is Better Than the Remake in Almost Every Way – April 4, 2025
https://www.cbr.com/mirror-mirror-better-than-snow-white/

Decide which version is better. It costs no money to download the movie:
https://yts.mx/movies/mirror-mirror-2012

After she spends all her money, an evil enchantress queen schemes to marry a handsome, wealthy prince. There's just one problem - he's in love with a beautiful princess, Snow White. Now, joined by seven rebellious dwarves, Snow White launches an epic battle of good vs. evil...



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Wednesday, April 9, 2025 9:49 PM

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LOL @ Lefty cope article from the New Yorker.

You will all be replaced with AI soon.

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6ix, you didn't understand that review.



Without looking at whatever liberal alt-left garbage you were posting here, I'm willing to put my prediction record up against any of theirs, any time, any day.

Because I'm better at their jobs than any of them are.



Keep on losing, loser. It's what you're really good at.

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Wednesday, April 9, 2025 9:57 PM

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Case in point...

March 27th in this thread, in reply to Jaynez

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Your perfect comparison is The Marvels.

The Marvels:
Production Budget: $270,000,000
Opening Weekend: $46,110,859
First Monday: $2,372,375
First Cheap Seat Tuesday: $3,300,946

https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Marvels-The-(2023)#tab=box-office

Snow White:
Production Budget: $269,400,000
Opening Weekend: $42,206,415
First Monday: $2,514,482
First Cheap Seat Tuesday: $4,001,288

https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Disneys-Snow-White-(2025)#tab=box-of
fice


Don't know what to say about the slightly better weekday performance for Snow White this far other than the very weak box office. The Marvels was out when Disney's Wish was out, along with Wonka and if memory serves there was a bloated Aquaman corpse floating around at the same time.

The only competition Snow White has now is the Blacktain failure, and whatever Bobby Deniro bomb just came out.


But there you go buddy. Both in (alleged) production budget and first 5-day performance, they're pretty much the same movie.


That was the biggest MCU flop ever, and one of Disney's most expensive mistakes so far.

What was the supposed budget for The Marvels last time we were updated? Remember they were saying something like $145 Million and how it was fine if it didn't do very well because of how cheap it was compared to other MCU movies? I think the last time I remember getting an update on that it was $180 or $190 Million. Now Bruce has it down for $270 Million in 2025.

Funny that, innit?

And that's probably why you didn't think to compare Snow White to The Marvels. You were probably still under the impression that it cost a lot less to make than it actually did.



Awwwwwwwww...

Only $169,701,759 worldwide after 3 weekends and Cheap Seat Tuesday.... :(


Who's going to win?



https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons/Disneys-Snow-Whi
te-(2025)/Marvels-The-(2023)#tab=day_by_day_comparison


It's going to be a nail-biter!



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Friday, April 11, 2025 8:31 AM

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James Cameron adjusting to a world where half of his theater audience stays home to watch his movies for free on TV:

James Cameron Says Blockbuster Movies Can Only Survive if We ‘Cut the Cost in Half’

Apr 9, 2025 2:22pm PT

https://variety.com/2025/film/news/james-cameron-blockbuster-movies-ai
-cut-costs-1236365081
/

“And it’s not just hypothetical,” he continued. “If we want to continue to see the kinds of movies that I’ve always loved and that I like to make and that I will go to see — ‘Dune,’ ‘Dune: Part Two,’ or one of my films or big effects-heavy, CG-heavy films — we’ve got to figure out how to cut the cost of that in half. Now that’s not about laying off half the staff and at the effects company. That’s about doubling their speed to completion on a given shot, so your cadence is faster and your throughput cycle is faster, and artists get to move on and do other cool things and then other cool things, right? That’s my sort of vision for that.”

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, April 11, 2025 11:35 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Nothing I haven't said here a thousand times before.

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Wednesday, April 23, 2025 6:17 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Snow White still in 1,600 theaters...

Cheap seat Tuesday gross: $186,857

Last weekend Gross: $1,226,519

Worldwide Gross after 33 Days: $194,524,353


Still about $5.2 Million shy of The Marvels. Will it get there????



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Thursday, May 1, 2025 5:06 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


March 27th (35 days ago):

Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Your perfect comparison is The Marvels.

The Marvels:
Production Budget: $270,000,000
Opening Weekend: $46,110,859
First Monday: $2,372,375
First Cheap Seat Tuesday: $3,300,946

https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Marvels-The-(2023)#tab=box-office

Snow White:
Production Budget: $269,400,000
Opening Weekend: $42,206,415
First Monday: $2,514,482
First Cheap Seat Tuesday: $4,001,288

https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Disneys-Snow-White-(2025)#tab=box-of
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Don't know what to say about the slightly better weekday performance for Snow White this far other than the very weak box office. The Marvels was out when Disney's Wish was out, along with Wonka and if memory serves there was a bloated Aquaman corpse floating around at the same time.

The only competition Snow White has now is the Blacktain failure, and whatever Bobby Deniro bomb just came out.


But there you go buddy. Both in (alleged) production budget and first 5-day performance, they're pretty much the same movie.


That was the biggest MCU flop ever, and one of Disney's most expensive mistakes so far.

What was the supposed budget for The Marvels last time we were updated? Remember they were saying something like $145 Million and how it was fine if it didn't do very well because of how cheap it was compared to other MCU movies? I think the last time I remember getting an update on that it was $180 or $190 Million. Now Bruce has it down for $270 Million in 2025.

Funny that, innit?

And that's probably why you didn't think to compare Snow White to The Marvels. You were probably still under the impression that it cost a lot less to make than it actually did.










ETA: I just noticed now that Bruce puts the inflation adjustment on these comparison graphs. I just mentioned about 15 minutes ago in the 2025 thread that when inflation is calculated in, there is zero chance that Snow White beat The Marvels.

Unless Bruce finds about $6 or 7 Million more under the international couch cushions, the graph already proves that.

And I think the chances of that are very unlikely since Bruce already did that for around $2 Million just the other day when it was looking like Snow White wasn't even going to beat The Marvels without needing to adjust for inflation. It was still too far away to believe that it would hit $200 Million, but a sudden huge several-million $ bump got it just close enough to clinch it. I'm not going to call shenanigans by Disney here since I've seen this happen plenty of times before, but I will note that it was quite a significant bump at the tail end of a movie that made so little money and hasn't pulled in any real cash anywhere for weeks now.

The Marvels has made just shy of $2.9 Million more in the US after you do the inflation adjustment. And though Bruce doesn't do the inflation adjustment for international numbers, know that there is also close to $3.5 Million additional coming from that end, since 57.7% of the box office for The Marvels was international.

It just grossed $30k in the US on Wednesday. Not looking good.



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