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The Blue Beetle Failure Thread
Thursday, August 17, 2023 11:39 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Thursday, August 17, 2023 6:35 PM
WHOZIT
Thursday, August 17, 2023 6:39 PM
Quote:Originally posted by whozit: I thought 'Barbie' was going to do just 'OK', soooo
Thursday, August 17, 2023 10:57 PM
Friday, August 18, 2023 8:15 AM
JAYNEZTOWN
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: The-Numbers.com home page always has a list of "Most Anticipated Movies" on a sidebar on the right side of the screen.
Friday, August 18, 2023 10:24 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN: Blue Beetle prediction? difficult to know
Quote:the movie studios are in caution mode again with strikes
Quote:I will kind of ignore oversea for the moment because international box office is more difficult to predict, however rule out France as not going to the cinema and a Russian market dead with sanctions, Japanese movies are usually late in the cinema and its a smaller box office. Let's look at its contest, its sort of in a competition against Barbie and Oppenheimer that are still making money from July's box office, then you have Meg 2, because Warner Bros owns both Barbie and Blue Beetle it might be in a contest against itself, you also have kids movies and animations, Strays, The Monkey King, then soon coming Gran Turismo, The Creator, The Equalizer 3, A Haunting in Venice, Retribution, Expend4bles etc
Quote:Does the name itself sell? maybe Nobody really knows 'Blue Beetle' unlike Batman, Ironman, Harry Potter, Superman, Luke Skywalker, Mickey Mouse, Spider-Man
Quote:Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: The-Numbers.com home page always has a list of "Most Anticipated Movies" on a sidebar on the right side of the screen. The Hill an American biographical sports drama might eat away on some of its profit but The Fall Guy is moved to 2024
Friday, August 18, 2023 10:40 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Projections range from $22 to $32 Million on opening weekend. That's 18% to 27% of its production budget
Friday, August 18, 2023 11:25 AM
Quote:Warner Bros.’ big bet of the Summer arrives in theaters this weekend, and The Flash looks as though it will set the new DC Universe on its way at a reasonable pace with an opening in the region of $70 million. ... The preview numbers point to an opening weekend that will fall short of $80 million, but Warner Bros. will be pretty happy with $70 million for a film that has had more than its fair share of negative publicity.
Quote:Shazam! Fury of the Gods picked up $3.4 million from preview screenings on Thursday. That’s a lot less than the $9.225 million earned by Shazam! back in 2019, and points to an opening weekend for the latest movie in the DC Extended Universe that will fall well short of the $53.5 million earned by its predecessor. In fact, it might not make it to $30 million this weekend. ... With a small number of exceptions, super hero movies earn less than 10 times their preview earnings over opening weekend, which makes $34 million a rough upper limit for Shazam!. If it performs as well through the weekend as Birds of Prey, it’ll come in with $28.1 million. For a truly heart-stopping comparison, Shazam!’s opening weekend multiplier was 5.8. If Fury of the Gods does that, it’ll open with just $19.72 million. Overall, something around $30 million seems likely, but there’s a decent chance it’ll miss that mark. If it does fall short of $30 million this weekend, it’ll probably also struggle to make $100 million in total, which would be a very disappointing outcome for a movie in the world’s number two super hero franchise.
Friday, August 18, 2023 8:05 PM
Quote: Blue Beetle should top the box office chart this weekend, but it’s looking like it’ll mimic the performance of Shazam! Fury of the Gods and come in with something around $30 million on debut—another disappointment for the DC Extended Universe following The Flash’s $55-million opening and $108-million run in June and July. Blue Beetle didn’t gain much traction with its potential audience over the past few weeks, with our model measuring audience enthusiasm at 80% of what we’d expect. Aside from the mid-pandemic release of Wonder Woman 1984, it’s also the first DC Universe film to open in fewer than 4,000 theaters, which further reduces our model’s baseline prediction. ... While Blue Beetle will almost certainly top the chart, Barbie won’t have a huge amount of competition and could hold on better than the model currently expects. If it tops $20 million the weekend result could still be close.
Saturday, August 19, 2023 5:56 AM
Saturday, August 19, 2023 6:55 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN: They admit the Budget to Flash was something like 300 Million meaning its box office failure was even worse than expected Are Major film studios failing in the USA, maybe and maybe not some are foreign owned like 'Sony' the brands like Sony do have flops but mostly avoid USA's new SJW Bolsevik politcial messages Disney has flops and Marvel has flops, Disney own Marvel However a new Spider-Man made money Disney probably had huge theme park loss with Covid Warner Bros had a hit with 'Barbie' but a lot of flops MGM is dead mostly, it still has ownership of Bond brand but was bought by Sony Universal Pictures... NBCUniversal they don't make as many films any more but they own the Despicable Me brand, movie rights for Mario and did make 'Oppenheimer' Paramount Pictures might have bounced back with Top Gun Maverick and a Box office $1.496 billion It's hard to know when the current box office run started and died I think it began with super blockbusters back in 1993, 1995, 1996 - then maybe started to die 2014, 2015 the Superhero thing over-saturated everything, Covid damaged sales and the SJW islamic Homosexual Gay Lesbian Political messages put into every big box office movie might have finally crushed it all. Some movies can make box office money but its going to continue with failures Small Indie movies are now Most Profitable Movies, more interesting and pull far mroe cash back Based on Return on Investment A lot of them if smart might return to the Low Budget Comedy, Scifi or Horror Genre, Halloween, Mad Max, Young Frankenstein, El Mariachi, Rain Man, Easy Rider, Open Water, Clerks, overseas or Japanese genre like the Ringu, Eraserhead , Paranormal Activity etc
Saturday, August 19, 2023 9:59 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN: They admit the Budget to Flash was something like 300 Million meaning its box office failure was even worse than expected
Quote:It's hard to know when the current box office run started and died I think it began with super blockbusters back in 1993, 1995, 1996 - then maybe started to die 2014, 2015 the Superhero thing over-saturated everything, Covid damaged sales and the SJW islamic Homosexual Gay Lesbian Political messages put into every big box office movie might have finally crushed it all.
Quote:Small Indie movies are now Most Profitable Movies, more interesting and pull far mroe cash back Based on Return on Investment A lot of them if smart might return to the Low Budget Comedy, Scifi or Horror Genre, Halloween, Mad Max, Young Frankenstein, El Mariachi, Rain Man, Easy Rider, Open Water, Clerks, overseas or Japanese genre like the Ringu, Eraserhead , Paranormal Activity etc
Saturday, August 19, 2023 10:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by whozit: The simple answer is...the fan base is gone. Why should I spent my hard earned $ to see the same story BUT, the hero is just wearing a different suit. 'The Blue Cockroach' will not save the DCU or the movie industry, it's just the same old thing, only blue.
Saturday, August 19, 2023 5:41 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by whozit: The simple answer is...the fan base is gone. Why should I spent my hard earned $ to see the same story BUT, the hero is just wearing a different suit. 'The Blue Cockroach' will not save the DCU or the movie industry, it's just the same old thing, only blue. There's two parts to that answer, really... The Normies are experiencing the same Superhero burnout that everybody experienced at some point with Westerns and with Musicals before that. After a couple of them are successful, too many of them get made leading to oversaturation and the quality just keeps falling down. And they've destroyed the built-in fan base by not respecting the fans or the original work the entire time, so once the Normies turn away from it and move on to the next big thing, there's going to be no one left to care anymore. End Game wasn't something you rush to. That's a slow burn. That's an event they could have teased for so much longer than they did. Not every movie had to be about a world-destroying event, but with those budgets they're forced to always make the next one seem even more important than the last. Secret Invasion? That could have been the best story that Marvel Studios ever filmed instead of the lowest rated Marvel property ever released. I'm glad that the Normies are finally rejecting the garbage-tier stories from garbage-tier writers and directors, acted mostly by garbage-tier actors. -------------------------------------------------- How you do anything is how you do everything.
Saturday, August 19, 2023 8:10 PM
Sunday, August 20, 2023 1:44 AM
Quote: Blue Beetle's box office performance falls below expectations, earning an estimated $25-27 million in its opening weekend, lower than the anticipated $30 million. Despite defeating Barbie at the box office, Blue Beetle's earnings are not impressive compared to the domination of the Barbie movie, which has already secured over $1 billion. Blue Beetle is expected to perform worse than Shazam: Fury of the Gods, which earned approximately $30.1 million.
Quote:Unfortunately, Blue Beetle was set up for failure. With James Gunn and Peter Safran preparing to reset the DC universe, Blue Beetle was left in a precarious position. Audiences came to the movie already aware that the DCU will be completely upended with Superman: Legacy, leaving little draw to watch a film set in a universe that will no longer be relevant. The Blue Beetle will be the first DCU character to appear in the new universe, but he lacks the draw that other well-known heroes may have, and many in the audience may not know about his relevance.
Sunday, August 20, 2023 10:05 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Yes. You've figured me out. I don't know what you pay your spies, but they all deserve a raise. I am from the Women's Golf Association. -------------------------------------------------- How you do anything is how you do everything.
Sunday, August 20, 2023 10:12 AM
Sunday, August 20, 2023 10:16 AM
Quote:Originally posted by whozit: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Yes. You've figured me out. I don't know what you pay your spies, but they all deserve a raise. I am from the Women's Golf Association. -------------------------------------------------- How you do anything is how you do everything. You write very well
Sunday, August 20, 2023 10:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Remember... That $10 Million that WB projected for Friday night includes the $3.3 Million that it got on Thursday night previews, so it only actually got a projected $6.7 Million on Friday.
Quote:Debuting in 3,871 locations, the Ángel Manuel Soto-directed “Blue Beetle” earned $10 million on its opening day, a figure that includes $3.3 million from previews. It’s not a dazzling figure for the superhero entry, which had forecast a touchdown between $25 million and $33 million heading into the weekend. The film’s debut looks to fall behind that of this year’s earlier DC entry “Shazam! Fury of the Gods,” which debuted to $30.1 million before collapsing for a $57.6 million finish.
Sunday, August 20, 2023 2:57 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Monday, August 21, 2023 11:16 AM
Quote:Originally posted by whozit: 'Blue Bug' will beat 'Barbie' this weekend...barely, it'll make around $25 mill. 'Indy 5' made $120,000 on Friday and is out of the top ten
Monday, August 21, 2023 11:44 AM
Monday, August 21, 2023 4:13 PM
Monday, August 21, 2023 11:21 PM
Quote:Originally posted by whozit: I will not be surprised if 'Barbie' retakes the #1 spot soon. If you go to YOUTUBE some of the nerds (Who hate Woke crap) are saying 'The Blue Booger' is not bad, not great, but not bad.
Tuesday, August 22, 2023 11:52 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by whozit: I will not be surprised if 'Barbie' retakes the #1 spot soon. If you go to YOUTUBE some of the nerds (Who hate Woke crap) are saying 'The Blue Booger' is not bad, not great, but not bad. I predicted that if Blue Beetle won the weekend that it wouldn't win next weekend. We'll have to see if we were right. With just 123 bucks shy of $4 Million between the two of them this weekend, I think our chances of being right are much more than a coin flip.
Tuesday, August 22, 2023 11:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: If projections hold all the way down the line, the failure of Blue Beetle might mean the end of a 19 weekend run in the Domestic Box office of making over $100M.
Wednesday, August 23, 2023 6:36 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Wednesday, August 23, 2023 6:40 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: If projections hold all the way down the line, the failure of Blue Beetle might mean the end of a 19 weekend run in the Domestic Box office of making over $100M.And with the dual underperformance of Strays on top of Blue Beetle's disappointment, that's exactly what happened. 19 week streak of $100 Million Plus weekends ended with only $96,865,309. -------------------------------------------------- How you do anything is how you do everything.
Thursday, August 24, 2023 12:15 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: If projections hold all the way down the line, the failure of Blue Beetle might mean the end of a 19 weekend run in the Domestic Box office of making over $100M.And with the dual underperformance of Strays on top of Blue Beetle's disappointment, that's exactly what happened. 19 week streak of $100 Million Plus weekends ended with only $96,865,309. -------------------------------------------------- How you do anything is how you do everything.The weekend had every film but Barbie, Oppy, SoF earn less than predictions. Talk To Me has projections which are higher than prediction.
Thursday, August 24, 2023 8:55 PM
Thursday, August 24, 2023 10:05 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Blu Booger has been beaten by a doll domestically since it was released. From 17 Aug to 22 Aug Booger made $30.412M, Barbie Made $30.9M From 18 Aug to 22 Aug Booger made $27.112M, Barbie made $27.08M From 17 Aug to 23 Aug Booger made $32.192M From 18 Aug to 23 Aug Booger made $28.992M
Sunday, August 27, 2023 12:19 PM
Sunday, August 27, 2023 2:13 PM
Sunday, August 27, 2023 3:25 PM
Quote:Originally posted by whozit: 'Indy 5' is now in 20th place as of this writing, just putting that out there.
Sunday, August 27, 2023 4:47 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by whozit: 'Indy 5' is now in 20th place as of this writing, just putting that out there. Indy 5? There were only 3 Indiana Jones movies. -------------------------------------------------- How you do anything is how you do everything.
Sunday, August 27, 2023 6:16 PM
Quote:Originally posted by whozit: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by whozit: 'Indy 5' is now in 20th place as of this writing, just putting that out there. Indy 5? There were only 3 Indiana Jones movies. -------------------------------------------------- How you do anything is how you do everything. Many people believe there were only 6 Star Wars movies.
Tuesday, August 29, 2023 5:44 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Blue Beetle makes only $82 Million worldwide in first 10 days. After 10 days, The Flash had already made $87 Million in the US alone. And where Blue Beetle has a 56% Domestic vs. 44% International take, The Flash ended its run with a 40% Domestic vs 60% International take, so it's likely The Flash had already made over $200 Million of its $268 Million total by day 10. After 10 Days, Shazam II came just $400k shy of where Blue Beetle stands Domestically right now. The only difference is that Shazam II has the numbers flipped and ended with a 44% Domestic vs. 56% International take. Unless the international numbers fall off a cliff immediately, I'm going to guess that Blue Beetle is going to do slightly better than Shazam II did, just because there is little new competition coming out with summer winding down and that will make the Studio's decision not to yank a "BIPOC" superhero flick out of theaters when it should a lot easier to justify. Expect Blue Beetle to post a sub $1 Million day or two this upcoming week. -------------------------------------------------- How you do anything is how you do everything.
Sunday, September 3, 2023 3:53 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: probably is actually a loser with the 2.5x Rule of Thumb.
Sunday, September 3, 2023 7:08 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN: Getting a boost from Labor Day Weekend 2023? It seems to have staying power, I'm not sure you're wrong but Seems to be doing better than Black Adam, The Flash and new 'Shazam! Fury of the Gods.'
Quote:56 million Overseas Worldwide, it's passed the $95 million mark
Quote:I will quote your 'rule' from another thread Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: probably is actually a loser with the 2.5x Rule of Thumb.
Quote:Budget $100+ million
Quote:Can it get another 100 Million, now it is in contest with another film The Equalizer 3 a horror movie Birth/Rebirth and Gran Turismo Starts Strong, Columbia Pictures and Sony
Sunday, September 3, 2023 7:46 PM
Tuesday, September 5, 2023 2:03 AM
Tuesday, September 5, 2023 3:43 AM
Tuesday, September 5, 2023 11:40 AM
Tuesday, September 5, 2023 5:56 PM
Wednesday, September 6, 2023 12:47 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Yeah... when I said that it would probably do better than Cheap Seat Tuesday on the holiday that was an understatement, if those projections are right. It's going to get about $700-$800k on Tuesday, and both Thursday and Friday will be somewhere in the $300-$400k range.
Thursday, September 7, 2023 11:46 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: And so it begins... Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Yeah... when I said that it would probably do better than Cheap Seat Tuesday on the holiday that was an understatement, if those projections are right. It's going to get about $700-$800k on Tuesday, and both Thursday and Friday will be somewhere in the $300-$400k range. Actual BO for Cheap Seat Tuesday: $572,109. With summer and the Holiday weekend behind it, the fall will be quick. -------------------------------------------------- How you do anything is how you do everything.
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack (September 3rd): If we're being optimistic, you're going to see a 40%-45% drop in worldwide box office per week from here on out. If we're being pragmatic, it's 50%. Let's give it the benefit of the doubt and call it 40%. It made roughly $19 Million worldwide in the last 7 days. (That number is high by probably $500k or so, but we'll call it $19 Million). Week 4 it makes $11,400,000 worldwide. Week 5 it makes $6,840,000 worldwide. ... And that's assuming it gets that many weeks. Black Adam got 12 weeks. The Flash got 9 weeks. Shazam II only got 7 weeks. Let's say it gets 12 weeks with its current worldwide gross at $101,874,000 3 weekends into the run. After 4 weeks it's got $113,274,000 worldwide. After 5 weeks it's got $120,114,000. ...
Quote:Blue Beetle has also grossed $18 million at the international box office so far, bringing its global total to $43.4 million.
Quote:Blue Beetle makes only $82 Million worldwide in first 10 days.
Thursday, September 7, 2023 11:39 PM
Friday, September 8, 2023 11:31 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Blue Beetle loses 530 theaters. I still think that the holiday weekend saved it from losing as much as it should have, but apparently the last 2 days of really bad numbers were enough to still lose over 500. It made $104 per theater on only its 20th day Wednesday. There's a chance it could go under $100 per theater Thursday night.
Friday, September 8, 2023 7:39 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: If it only sees a 40% drop the next three days, it grosses $7,778,921 Domestic since Labor Day.
Quote:Its drops after raising 167% on the holiday from the week before were 55% on Tuesday, 56% on Wednesday, and 59% on Thursday. If it drops 55% on average this weekend, it grosses $6,711,709 Domestic since Labor Day. With $4.5 to $5.5 Million likely internationally, its range is between $11.2M and $13.3M added to the figure of just shy of $102 Million it had after Sunday night's and the international numbers were calculated after the weekend. That's going to put it between $113.2 Million to $115.3 Million after Sunday night.
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