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***** Sound of Freedom
Wednesday, August 9, 2023 12:25 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by second: Angel Studios won't say how much of the film's $164 million domestic take comes from donated tickets or those bought directly by a moviegoer. August 8, 2023 11:06am The film’s blockbuster performance has no doubt been boosted by Angel’s mastermind plan to change the way movies are distributed through its innovative “Pay It Forward” model, whereby people are urged to buy and then donate Sound of Freedom tickets for others to use. Those “others” can grab a code off the Pay It Forward website and then redeem it using major online ticketing services or an individual theater. But how money is used from unredeemed tickets is at the company’s discretion, according to this standard disclaimer on the website: “Upon submitting my Pay It Forward contribution, I acknowledge and agree that Angel Studios will make reasonable efforts to use Pay It Forward ticket sales for the audience growth of the intended film or series. However, Angel Studios becomes the owner of all funds upon receipt and may use them at its sole discretion to further the Angel Studios’ mission of amplifying light through impactful stories.” Right-leaning audiences dismiss criticisms of the movie from the left and mainstream press as the thoughts of “pedophiles, satanists and other malicious parties,” while left-leaning audiences found the movie’s messaging tactics to be aligned with “QAnon, racism, white supremacy, Christo-fascist, anti-Semitic and an overall deceitful work.” More at https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/sound-of-freedom-angel-studios-pay-it-forward-1235550898/ The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Wednesday, August 9, 2023 6:20 PM
Wednesday, August 9, 2023 8:40 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Thursday, August 10, 2023 11:59 AM
Thursday, August 10, 2023 4:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: The past weekend had a market-wide drop of 11% in Box Office, and this wiped out my predictions. But I have still been noticing trends, and I'll make a table to help show this. I fully expect most folk will not have interest in this, but I think it is curious. Not only because Sound of Freedom is such a wonderful film, but also because it is breaking the mold, much like Maverick did last year. Barbie has been benefitting from strong summer weekday sales, which SMB did not have. (SMB is a Seth Rogan film?) SoF has had strong Saturday and Sunday figures, the days when honest working folk are not working. Over the weekend, Barbie made 53.0% of it's Production Budget. Sound of Freedom made 54.0% of it's Production Budget. I m using $14M as the Production Budget figure for Sof, and $100M for Barbie. Barbie's international balances may bounce around, but this table is using the stated observation of 47.5% Domestic and 52.5% International. All figures not tagged with % are Millions of Dollars. For Barbie figures, the same figures are both $Millions, but also % of Production Budget. 1st column is Date. 2nd column is SoF Single Day BO. 3rd column is Single Day BO % of Budget. 4th and 5th are Total Cummulative Box Office, and then % of Budget. 6th and 7th are Last 7 Days of Box Office, and then % of Budget. All for Sound of Freedom. 8th column is Barbie single Day Domestic Box Office. 9th column is the % of Budget gain on SoF % for the same day. 10th column is the Total of Barbie's Domestic Box Office. 11th column is the total of the Last 7 Days of Barbie's Domestic Box Office. 12th is the % gain on SoF for the same Last 7 Day period. 13th column - 18th columns are the same things, but for Worldwide Box Office.
Quote: July 30 was the first day that Barbie made less Domestic BO % of Budget than SoF did. Then again on 5 and 6 August.
Friday, August 11, 2023 12:03 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: The past weekend had a market-wide drop of 11% in Box Office, and this wiped out my predictions. But I have still been noticing trends, and I'll make a table to help show this. I fully expect most folk will not have interest in this, but I think it is curious. Not only because Sound of Freedom is such a wonderful film, but also because it is breaking the mold, much like Maverick did last year.
Quote:Barbie has been benefitting from strong summer weekday sales, which SMB did not have. (SMB is a Seth Rogan film?) SoF has had strong Saturday and Sunday figures, the days when honest working folk are not working.
Quote:Over the weekend, Barbie made 53.0% of it's Production Budget. Sound of Freedom made 54.0% of it's Production Budget. I m using $14M as the Production Budget figure for Sof, and $100M for Barbie. Barbie's international balances may bounce around, but this table is using the stated observation of 47.5% Domestic and 52.5% International. All figures not tagged with % are Millions of Dollars. For Barbie figures, the same figures are both $Millions, but also % of Production Budget. 1st column is Date. 2nd column is SoF Single Day BO. 3rd column is Single Day BO % of Budget. 4th and 5th are Total Cummulative Box Office, and then % of Budget. 6th and 7th are Last 7 Days of Box Office, and then % of Budget. All for Sound of Freedom. 8th column is Barbie single Day Domestic Box Office. 9th column is the % of Budget gain on SoF % for the same day. 10th column is the Total of Barbie's Domestic Box Office. 11th column is the total of the Last 7 Days of Barbie's Domestic Box Office. 12th is the % gain on SoF for the same Last 7 Day period. 13th column - 18th columns are the same things, but for Worldwide Box Office.
Quote:It is currently taking about 7 days for Barbie WWBO to gain 100% on SoF. Barbie will have Japan release this week.
Quote:Barbie only has about 2 weeks of summer remaining, then it will likely plateau, or flatline. Not sure if it will be able to catch SMB once summer ends.
Quote:SoF doesn't need gobs of international sales to gain 100% more - only $14M.
Friday, August 11, 2023 12:16 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: In List-Making news: I still couldn't add any movies to the lists of actual money gained/lost on completed films for last week because some long-time movies are still stubbornly holding on to theater counts. Guardians 3 is still in 33 theaters and has grossed $25,402 since Friday. The Little Mermaid is still in 90 theaters and has grossed $61,262 since Friday. Super Mario Bros added 56 theaters back for a total of 152 theaters and has grossed $35,115 since Friday. The Flash is in 26 theaters and has grossed $68,653 since Friday. Just pull them out already. In total, including all weekend, the 4 movies haven't even made in $171k. It's costing more at this point to pay the employees and keep the lights and A/C running for these showings. -------------------------------------------------- How you do anything is how you do everything.
Friday, August 11, 2023 4:16 PM
Friday, August 11, 2023 4:23 PM
Friday, August 11, 2023 4:35 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: But I have still been noticing trends, and I'll make a table to help show this. I fully expect most folk will not have interest in this, but I think it is curious. Not only because Sound of Freedom is such a wonderful film, but also because it is breaking the mold, much like Maverick did last year. Barbie has been benefitting from strong summer weekday sales, which SMB did not have. (SMB is a Seth Rogan film?) SoF has had strong Saturday and Sunday figures, the days when honest working folk are not working. Over the weekend, Barbie made 53.0% of it's Production Budget. Sound of Freedom made 54.0% of it's Production Budget. I m using $14M as the Production Budget figure for Sof, and $100M for Barbie. Barbie's international balances may bounce around, but this table is using the stated observation of 47.5% Domestic and 52.5% International. All figures not tagged with % are Millions of Dollars. For Barbie figures, the same figures are both $Millions, but also % of Production Budget. 1st column is Date. 2nd column is SoF Single Day BO. 3rd column is Single Day BO % of Budget. 4th and 5th are Total Cummulative Box Office, and then % of Budget. 6th and 7th are Last 7 Days of Box Office, and then % of Budget. All for Sound of Freedom. 8th column is Barbie single Day Domestic Box Office. 9th column is the % of Budget gain on SoF % for the same day. 10th column is the Total of Barbie's Domestic Box Office. 11th column is the total of the Last 7 Days of Barbie's Domestic Box Office. 12th is the % gain on SoF for the same Last 7 Day period. 13th column - 18th columns are the same things, but for Worldwide Box Office.
Quote: July 30 was the first day that Barbie made less Domestic BO % of Budget than SoF did. Then again on 5 and 6 August. -------------------- Took me a few days to build this table, but finally got it. It is currently taking about 7 days for Barbie WWBO to gain 100% on SoF. Barbie will have Japan release this week.
Friday, August 11, 2023 5:50 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: I think the green numbers at The Numbers is prelim or estimated figures, and black are the real figures. They just turned black for the weekend. Sunday SoF jumped up to highest take per screen, beating Indy5 and Red Door. It was estimated behind Red Door. Also, every single day since release, SoF has more $ per screen that Indy5. Even when it added more than 13% more theaters for the weekend.
Quote:Quote:Quote:]I suspect Mansion won't have higher $ Per theater than SoF for Wednesday.My suspicion failed. WokeSayGay Mansion dropped to $492 per theater, in it's 6th day of release. But SoF dropped more than I expected, to $458 per screen. I do still feel confident that Mansion will fall below SoF for Sat and Sun. Sof earned 11% of it's Production Budget. Barbie earned almost 13% from Domestic BO, likely 27% Worldwide. SoF earned 150% of it's Budget in the past 7 days, Barbie did $157M Domestic in the last 7 days, which would be 157% of Budget, and likely 320% Worldwide.My suspicion for Wednesday was premature. 2 days later, on Friday, Mansion dropped to $724 per theater, and SoF held at 744 per theater. On Sunday, Mansion had $763 per, and Sof had $836 per. Bruce pointed out that the entire Box office, for the entire spectrum of movies, was down 11% from expected.
Quote:Quote:]I suspect Mansion won't have higher $ Per theater than SoF for Wednesday.My suspicion failed. WokeSayGay Mansion dropped to $492 per theater, in it's 6th day of release. But SoF dropped more than I expected, to $458 per screen. I do still feel confident that Mansion will fall below SoF for Sat and Sun. Sof earned 11% of it's Production Budget. Barbie earned almost 13% from Domestic BO, likely 27% Worldwide. SoF earned 150% of it's Budget in the past 7 days, Barbie did $157M Domestic in the last 7 days, which would be 157% of Budget, and likely 320% Worldwide.
Quote:]I suspect Mansion won't have higher $ Per theater than SoF for Wednesday.
Saturday, August 12, 2023 10:51 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: I just noticed that Barbie actually does well on Sat & Sun with International, meaning the summer weekdays do not help as much in other countries. I don't know the cultural customs of cinema elsewhere.
Saturday, August 12, 2023 11:01 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Mansion had lower $per than SoF on Monday and Wed, no Mansion figures for Thu.
Saturday, August 12, 2023 4:45 PM
Quote:Quote:Quote:]I suspect Mansion won't have higher $ Per theater than SoF for Wednesday.My suspicion failed. WokeSayGay Mansion dropped to $492 per theater, in it's 6th day of release. But SoF dropped more than I expected, to $458 per screen. I do still feel confident that Mansion will fall below SoF for Sat and Sun. Sof earned 11% of it's Production Budget. Barbie earned almost 13% from Domestic BO, likely 27% Worldwide. SoF earned 150% of it's Budget in the past 7 days, Barbie did $157M Domestic in the last 7 days, which would be 157% of Budget, and likely 320% Worldwide. ----------------- My suspicion for Wednesday was premature. 2 days later, on Friday, Mansion dropped to $724 per theater, and SoF held at 744 per theater. On Sunday, Mansion had $763 per, and Sof had $836 per. Bruce pointed out that the entire Box office, for the entire spectrum of movies, was down 11% from expected.Mansion had lower $per than SoF on Monday and Wed, no Mansion figures for Thu. No A24 figures, but now Bruce has placed rankings for the past 7 days.
Quote:Quote:]I suspect Mansion won't have higher $ Per theater than SoF for Wednesday.My suspicion failed. WokeSayGay Mansion dropped to $492 per theater, in it's 6th day of release. But SoF dropped more than I expected, to $458 per screen. I do still feel confident that Mansion will fall below SoF for Sat and Sun. Sof earned 11% of it's Production Budget. Barbie earned almost 13% from Domestic BO, likely 27% Worldwide. SoF earned 150% of it's Budget in the past 7 days, Barbie did $157M Domestic in the last 7 days, which would be 157% of Budget, and likely 320% Worldwide. ----------------- My suspicion for Wednesday was premature. 2 days later, on Friday, Mansion dropped to $724 per theater, and SoF held at 744 per theater. On Sunday, Mansion had $763 per, and Sof had $836 per. Bruce pointed out that the entire Box office, for the entire spectrum of movies, was down 11% from expected.
Saturday, August 12, 2023 6:15 PM
Saturday, August 12, 2023 10:23 PM
Sunday, August 13, 2023 10:23 AM
Sunday, August 13, 2023 11:01 AM
Quote: They're up now. Haunted Mansion had $283 compared to SoF's $276 on Thursday. It made about $134k more than SoF. Bruce's prediction for the weekend is $4,990,000 for Sound of Freedom and $5,220,000 for Haunted Mansion. That could go either way, since his predictions for the 3 days on both movies are only about half the difference between Haunted Mansion and Sound of Freedom on Cheap Seat Tuesday alone. In any event, we're probably only around a week from Haunted Mansion being another mega-budget movie that never makes as much per day as Sound of Freedom before the end of both of their runs. Maybe less.
Sunday, August 13, 2023 11:13 AM
Sunday, August 13, 2023 6:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Saturday/Sunday Numbers: 1. M3GAN - 1,475% [FINAL] 2. Super Mario Bros - 1,358% (+0%) 3. Sound of Freedom - 1,236% (+29%) 4. Insidious: The Red Door - 1,144% (+0%) 5. Barbie - 1,101% (+24%) SoF needs 123% to beat SMB. (About $18 Million) SoF needs 240% to beat M3GAN. (About $34 Million) SoF is 135% above Barbie. (Probably only 58% with unreported international numbers) *Super Mario Bros projections aren't in yet, and no new international numbers appear to be either. It only made $7k at Friday's box office though so it's safe to say it's a 0% gain until some new international wackiness happens when those numbers are readjusted. No new numbers to Insidious overseas. It's projected to have made $475k this weekend domestic. I'm going to give another 27% international for Saturday and Sunday to Barbie for a total of 77% more for the week once the international numbers come in on Sunday/Monday. so after the international numbers from Monday to Friday are added, it's likely about 1,178%. Barbie will have overtaken Insidious for 4th place once the international numbers are in. -------------------------------------------------- How you do anything is how you do everything.
Monday, August 14, 2023 11:59 AM
Quote:Saturday/Sunday Numbers (Post International Update): 1. M3GAN - 1,475% [FINAL] 2. Super Mario Bros - 1,358% (+0%) 3. Sound of Freedom - 1,236% (+0%) 4. Barbie - 1,184% (+83%) 5. Insidious: The Red Door - 1,163% (+19%) SoF needs 123% to beat SMB. (About $18 Million) SoF needs 240% to beat M3GAN. (About $34 Million) SoF is 52% above Barbie. (6% less than my after-international prediction)
Monday, August 14, 2023 5:33 PM
Quote:Quote:Quote:]I suspect Mansion won't have higher $ Per theater than SoF for Wednesday.My suspicion failed. WokeSayGay Mansion dropped to $492 per theater, in it's 6th day of release. But SoF dropped more than I expected, to $458 per screen. I do still feel confident that Mansion will fall below SoF for Sat and Sun. Sof earned 11% of it's Production Budget. Barbie earned almost 13% from Domestic BO, likely 27% Worldwide. SoF earned 150% of it's Budget in the past 7 days, Barbie did $157M Domestic in the last 7 days, which would be 157% of Budget, and likely 320% Worldwide. ----------------- My suspicion for Wednesday was premature. 2 days later, on Friday, Mansion dropped to $724 per theater, and SoF held at 744 per theater. On Sunday, Mansion had $763 per, and Sof had $836 per. Bruce pointed out that the entire Box office, for the entire spectrum of movies, was down 11% from expected.Mansion had lower $per than SoF on Monday and Wed, no Mansion figures for Thu. No A24 figures, but now Bruce has placed rankings for the past 7 days. -------------------- Talk To Me figures finally posted for the past week, about 2 hours ago. So I updated. Last week, I balked when Angel Studios projected that Sunday would make less than Friday - for the first time in their run. And I will have the same reaction if they do the same this weekend. Still no SoF for last night.
Monday, August 14, 2023 5:37 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: I just noticed that Barbie actually does well on Sat & Sun with International, meaning the summer weekdays do not help as much in other countries. I don't know the cultural customs of cinema elsewhere. There is insufficient data to make that claim. We haven't seen any updates to international numbers for Barbie since Sunday/Monday, and we don't know how Bruce calculates anything. If you're referring to the fact that there are countries on the International tab with dates of 8/8, 8/9 and even 8/11 on them, I could see where that could be confusing, but as far as any NEW money being added to the international total there has not been any new money since Sunday's $118 Million and the additional $31 Million that was added on Monday morning. The only gains that Barbie has had since that $31 Million addition to the International total were its Domestic gains from Monday to Thursday. What I'm assuming here is that not only does Bruce reconcile whatever he can with the previous week on Sunday, but he is also given some new studio projections for the following week from some of the countries outside of the US where it's been shown, similar to how we'll get Saturday/Sunday projections by around noon on Saturday here in the states. However, unlike how the US box office shows the actual numbers fairly quickly after projections are given, the International numbers lag very far behind that and are handled very opaquely. In fact, I'd say that we're in a position where we just have to take Bruce's and the Studios' words on the international numbers altogether because outside of them being posted there's no other actual evidence presented to us that any of those numbers are even real in the first place, and we're never given any explanation about projections and reconciliation. This would certainly explain all the strangeness I started to notice in many of the top 50 worldwide movies, particularly at the end of their runs. Some weeks a movie will make $3 Million stateside and yet by the end of that week the Worldwide Gross went down $1 Million. Then a month later that same movie makes $200k Domestic and it goes up $6 Million Worldwide. I now believe that this stuff happens all the time to every movie. Most folk just wouldn't notice it since almost nobody is paying as close attention to any of this as we are doing. Hell... It took me quite a long time to notice it myself, and really it only becomes very obvious when big-budget flicks near the end of their runs. Look through my posts and you'll see me mention this quite a few times about Super Mario Bros and Guardians 3. It even happened with the lower-budget The Bogeyman, with that movie posting some insane gains of around $10 Million one week late into its run when it didn't make much at all here in the states. -------------------------------------------------- How you do anything is how you do everything.
Monday, August 14, 2023 6:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: I was in error. I thought I noticed something which was not actually there. I should have deleted that, but ran out of time. You are correct. Because you have brought it up, I have not deleted it from the original post.
Monday, August 14, 2023 8:08 PM
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Wednesday, August 16, 2023 3:54 PM
Wednesday, August 16, 2023 7:28 PM
Wednesday, August 16, 2023 7:30 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: I didn't feel like taking the time to add any new movies yet for this week. Movies that are on my radar and their worldwide ranking are as follows: Asteroid City: 57 Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kraken: 63 80 for Brady: 64 Talk to Me: 66 Renfield: 71 Guy Ritchie's The Covenant: 78 -------------------------------------------------- How you do anything is how you do everything.
Wednesday, August 16, 2023 7:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Updating: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: I think the green numbers at The Numbers is prelim or estimated figures, and black are the real figures. They just turned black for the weekend. Sunday SoF jumped up to highest take per screen, beating Indy5 and Red Door. It was estimated behind Red Door. Also, every single day since release, SoF has more $ per screen that Indy5. Even when it added more than 13% more theaters for the weekend. let's see... For the days when working folk are not working... Date | DBO Rnk /Scrn Rnk 04Jul 14.24 1 $5,407 1 08Jul 7.176 3 $2,431 2 09Jul 7.295 3 $2,471 1 15Jul 10.22 2 $3,132 2 16Jul 9.563 2 $2,929 2 22Jul 7,434 4 $2,263 3 23Jul 6,684 3 $2,035 3 29Jul 4.813 4 $1,411 4 30Jul 4.233 4 $1,241 4 5 Aug 2.870 6 $ 0965 7 6 Aug 2.487 6 $ 0836 6 12Aug 1.965 13Aug 1.551 other days... 05Jul 4.047 2 $1,537 1 06Jul 3.697 3 $1,404 2 07Jul 5.208 3 $1,764 2 10Jul 4.000 1 $1,355 1 11Jul 3.829 1 $1,297 1 12Jul 4.424 2 $1,499 2 13Jul 4.576 2 $1,550 2 14Jul 7.491 2 $2,294 2 17Jul 4.954 2 $1,518 1 18Jul 5.449 2 $1,669 2 19Jul 4.722 2 $1,446 1 20Jul 3.702 1 $1,134 1 21Jul 5.706 3 $1,737 3 24Jul 3.168 3 $ 0965 3 25Jul 3.391 3 $1,032 3 26Jul 3.001 3 $ 0914 3 27Jul 2.568 3 $ 0782 3 28Jul 3.766 5 $1,104 5 31Jul 2.001 4 $ 0587 4 1 Aug 2.061 4 $ 0604 4 2 Aug 1.561 5 $ 0458 6 3 Aug 1.440 5 $ 0442 7 4 Aug 2.212 6 $ 0744 6 7 Aug 1.077 6 $ 0362 7 8 Aug 1.170 6 $ 0393 8 9 Aug 0.900 8 $ 0303 7 10Aug 0.822 7 $ 0276 9 11Aug 1.351 Quote:Quote:Quote:]I suspect Mansion won't have higher $ Per theater than SoF for Wednesday.
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Wednesday, August 16, 2023 8:22 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Yesterday still showed $1.191B, and today shows $1.197B Worldwide Box Office for Barbie, which would have been under the $100M budget figure 1191% and 1197% I have been looking at the Worldwide figures for the last couple days, and have been noticing some things. Do you know what is the definition of the "Rest of the World" figure?
Quote:Did you see that Barbie debuted in UAE on 10 August, and from 10-13 August made $1.9M, averaging almost $10,000 per theater for that period?
Quote:Sound of Freedom opens in South Africa this Friday, and new date for Brazil is listed as 21 Sept.
Wednesday, August 16, 2023 8:25 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: I didn't feel like taking the time to add any new movies yet for this week. Movies that are on my radar and their worldwide ranking are as follows: Asteroid City: 57 Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kraken: 63 80 for Brady: 64 Talk to Me: 66 Renfield: 71 Guy Ritchie's The Covenant: 78 -------------------------------------------------- How you do anything is how you do everything.I recall that Asteroid City was Limited Release for at least 1 week, possibly more before Wide Release.
Wednesday, August 16, 2023 8:45 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: I saw you mentioned quite a lot of other countries that were going to show it. Do you have a source for that since there's now only 6 listed on the International tab? -------------------------------------------------- How you do anything is how you do everything.
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: If this linky works newsweek.com/sound-freedom-movie-begins-global-rollout-astonishing-domestic-success-1815650 https://www.newsweek.com/sound-freedom-movie-begins-global-rollout-astonishing-domestic-success-1815650 It reports SoF budget was $14.5M - however this is certainly a Fake News site, and perhaps their Maths are prejudiced. The article also reports International release dates. 18 Aug South Africa 24 Aug Australia, New Zealand 31 Aug Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Belize, Panama, Colombia, Venezuela, Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, Bolivia, Chile, Peru, Ecuador, Costa Rica 1 Sep UK, Ireland 11 Oct Spain Other than Brazil, France, Italy, Germany, China, the biggest markets seem to be covered. Some of those likely need greater translation or dubbing, since most of the cast already spoke Spanish.This linky also reports that RT has a 99% rating among audience members. Updated as of 31 July. I can assume that a 100% score would be impossible from a group such as "audience." But how common is it to have 99% score? I don''t pay enough attention to that system. And I don't have access to "updated" scores, only what the initial release ratings are.
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: If this linky works newsweek.com/sound-freedom-movie-begins-global-rollout-astonishing-domestic-success-1815650 https://www.newsweek.com/sound-freedom-movie-begins-global-rollout-astonishing-domestic-success-1815650 It reports SoF budget was $14.5M - however this is certainly a Fake News site, and perhaps their Maths are prejudiced. The article also reports International release dates. 18 Aug South Africa 24 Aug Australia, New Zealand 31 Aug Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Belize, Panama, Colombia, Venezuela, Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, Bolivia, Chile, Peru, Ecuador, Costa Rica 1 Sep UK, Ireland 11 Oct Spain Other than Brazil, France, Italy, Germany, China, the biggest markets seem to be covered. Some of those likely need greater translation or dubbing, since most of the cast already spoke Spanish.
Thursday, August 17, 2023 5:01 PM
Thursday, August 17, 2023 6:53 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: This linky also reports that RT has a 99% rating among audience members. Updated as of 31 July. I can assume that a 100% score would be impossible from a group such as "audience." But how common is it to have 99% score? I don''t pay enough attention to that system. And I don't have access to "updated" scores, only what the initial release ratings are.
Quote:For the list of other countries, you need to look at that linky. There is something like a screenshot of something like a tweeter page there, it will not copy with the computers that I use now. But that is were I transcribed the list from. I think it was a page for Angel Studios, or Sound of Freedom, so I was confident they knew what they were talking about.
Quote:The release scheduled announced by Angel Studios is as follows: August 18: South Africa August 24: Australia, New Zealand August 31: Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Belize, Panama, Colombia, Venezuela, Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, Bolivia, Chile, Peru, Ecuador, Costa Rica September 1: United Kingdom, Ireland October 11: Spain Angel Studios has confirmed that more countries are being added weekly.
Thursday, August 17, 2023 7:05 PM
Thursday, August 17, 2023 10:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Did you ever answer the comment about 99% here?
Thursday, August 17, 2023 11:02 PM
Friday, August 18, 2023 5:27 PM
Quote:Quote:Quote:]I suspect Mansion won't have higher $ Per theater than SoF for Wednesday.My suspicion failed. WokeSayGay Mansion dropped to $492 per theater, in it's 6th day of release. But SoF dropped more than I expected, to $458 per screen. I do still feel confident that Mansion will fall below SoF for Sat and Sun. Sof earned 11% of it's Production Budget. Barbie earned almost 13% from Domestic BO, likely 27% Worldwide. SoF earned 150% of it's Budget in the past 7 days, Barbie did $157M Domestic in the last 7 days, which would be 157% of Budget, and likely 320% Worldwide.Talk To Me figures finally posted for the past week, about 2 hours ago. So I updated. Last week, I balked when Angel Studios projected that Sunday would make less than Friday - for the first time in their run. And I will have the same reaction if they do the same this weekend. Still no SoF for last night. -------------------- If trends continue, I expect SoF to gain another 50% this week (end 20 Aug), and another 30% the next week (end 27 Aug), making it about 1315%. Using Oppy as a guide, 1/5 of the International Box Office comes from UK, Australia, Mexico. i expect $18M from these 3, which would make it about 1445% when these are tallied. Australia starts trickling in after 24 Aug, and UK/Mexico after 1 Sep. I do understand that barbie has a Production Budget of $145M. However, my other table is done to show the numerical trends I had noticed, and I will continue that without changing the denominator, to demonstrate the trend. If Barbie had continued the trend, I had seen that Barbie would overtake SoF in 2 weeks, and then 2 weeks later would fall below SoF again. That would be IF the summer weekdays continued past 20 Aug, and SoF had no Box office from International. The weekend predictions had the Box Office falling by 50%, about $105M. But the projections indicate about $111M Box office, so that would be an increase. Bruce had mentioned that he was tinkering with his formulas for weekend predictions, but he thought that would affect Barbie more than others. Bruce predicted less drop for Barbie than SoF, I thought that was incorrect. Compared to predictions, the projections for Barbie are higher than those for SoF. I thought that fishy.
Friday, August 18, 2023 7:37 PM
Quote:Talk to Me still has no new numbers since Sunday. My guess is that from Monday to Thursday night it made enough to round up to $40 Million from $36 Million, which means an 89% gain going into the weekend with around a $400k deficit to the next million. If it falls shy of this though, it will have a surplus with only a 69% gain from Monday to Thursday.
Saturday, August 19, 2023 3:39 PM
Saturday, August 19, 2023 4:13 PM
Saturday, August 19, 2023 4:16 PM
Quote:If trends continue, I expect SoF to gain another 50% this week (end 20 Aug), and another 30% the next week (end 27 Aug), making it about 1315%. Using Oppy as a guide, 1/5 of the International Box Office comes from UK, Australia, Mexico. i expect $18M from these 3, which would make it about 1445% when these are tallied. Australia starts trickling in after 24 Aug, and UK/Mexico after 1 Sep. I do understand that Barbie has a Production Budget of $145M. However, my other table is done to show the numerical trends I had noticed, and I will continue that without changing the denominator, to demonstrate the trend. If Barbie had continued the trend, I had seen that Barbie would overtake SoF in 2 weeks, and then 2 weeks later would fall below SoF again. That would be IF the summer weekdays continued past 20 Aug, and SoF had no Box office from International.
Saturday, August 19, 2023 4:27 PM
Quote: July 30 was the first day that Barbie made less Domestic BO % of Budget than SoF did. Then again on 5 and 6 August. -------------------- Took me a few days to build this table, but finally got it. It is currently taking about 7 days for Barbie WWBO to gain 100% on SoF. Barbie will have Japan release this week. ------------------- Barbie has not added International figures in days. If trends continued, then according to this table, Barbie would not have enough to catch up to SoF in the next week. Barbie currently at 1201% of $100M denominator, and falling to less gains each day. Barbie behind SoF by 47% with these calculations, and currently takes 7 days to gain 64%.
Saturday, August 19, 2023 8:21 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: When I started looking at The Numbers about the time SoF came out, I had thought the projections were from Bruce, as well as the predictions. Then I began to conjure that the projections (green figures) were from the studios, before they became black figures. 6ix also confirmed that he thought so too. That is for Domestic Box Office.
Quote:For International, I'm not sure what is going on. I have not seen an actual definition of "Rest of the World" figures, which go up and down, sometimes daily. Some individual nations have their numbers go either up or down. Are all of these figures coming from the studios? or from their contract distributors in those countries? Or are the studios reporting some of the numbers, and then Bruce makes up numbers in between, to sort of smooth out the bumps, like extrapolation and interpolation?
Quote:I have been starting to take note of these figures, only for Barbie, from the past week. Some things I've noticed, but some things remain elusive.
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