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The Little Mermaid Failure Thread

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Thursday, June 8, 2023 2:16 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


black Ariel is not Ariel.

Period.

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Thursday, June 8, 2023 4:49 PM

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black Ariel is not Ariel.

Period.
In an op-ed last month, The Global Times, an English-language Chinese tabloid known for its nationalistic coverage, accused Disney of turning “classic tales into ‘sacrificial lambs’ for political correctness” by casting non-white actors in classic tales.

“When the beautiful stories that have accompanied countless children’s childhoods become arenas for racial conflict, they lose their meaning and become devoid of romance and fantasy, replaced by arguments about skin colour,” said the tabloid, insisting that such casting controversies were not driven by racism but “lazy and irresponsible storytelling”.

The blowback – much of it overtly racist – has also played out among ordinary Chinese film-goers online.

On social media platforms such as Sina Weibo, some users have criticised Bailey’s appearance and her Black facial features.

Other Chinese commentators online left more positive reviews, with a poster on the film site Mayoan saying that Bailey’s appearance made little difference to children and she represented Princess Ariel’s most essential character trait – a brave spirit – well.

While China does not have the same racial history or politics as the US, audiences are still sensitive to how race is portrayed in Hollywood films, said Chinese-born YouTuber Yao Zhang, who follows Chinese and Taiwanese news and culture from Canada.

Traditional Chinese beauty standards emphasise pale skin and large round eyes, Zhang said, and some viewers – and government officials – want to see Chinese values reflected on the screen.

“There’s no correct way of looking at [the film in the US],” Zhang told Al Jazeera. “But in China, there is 100 percent a correct way to understand it.”

Zhang compared the backlash to the public’s reaction to supermodel Lu Yan, whose small eyes and high cheekbones were deemed unattractive in China but gained her renown in the West – although some Chinese bloggers claimed Lu’s success was a Western ploy to make China look bad by elevating “ugly” women.

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2023/6/8/chinas-backlash-against-lit
tle-mermaid-exposes-hollywood-dilemma

A fond memory I have of Chinese racism is bringing an American-born Chinese daughter home from a ski vacation to her born-in-China mother. The mother went berserk because her daughter's skin was darkened by the sun on the snow. The mother even said the words "I'm not racist, you're the racist" to her own daughter. The dutiful daughter was very careful to cover her face with Coppertone SPF 50 sunblock in the future so that she would never tan again.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Thursday, June 8, 2023 9:08 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


black Ariel is not Ariel.

Period.

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Friday, June 9, 2023 5:21 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


How important are these characters to people, for example could a Brown Face Japanese play Rosa Parks or Anne Frank for example.

Japan tried to bring in 'Brown Face' for a while but the Kyogaru or Ganguro did not act nice, they behaved like uncivilized slutty street people that spent too much time in the tanning salon? distinguished by a dark tan, lots of curse words and contrasting weird make-up liberally applied by fashionistas.





Some of Japan even thought they were inspired not by 'Black Culture' but by ghosts and demons who are depicted with a similar appearance, such as those in kabuki and noh costumes.


Sun tan or lack of sun tanning is a Race?

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A fond memory I have of Chinese racism is bringing an American-born Chinese daughter home from a ski vacation to her born-in-China mother. The mother went berserk because her daughter's skin was darkened by the sun on the snow.


This high class geisha look is everywhere in culture its across medieval Europe, its across Asia, its ion Latin America and its not exactly racism, its in all place from some Brazil to Greece to Indonesia to Italy to Thailand to Dominican Republic.

Some posh elite said Tanned people got tanned because they were poor who worked in the Sun too much, the elite said they were low IQ and if they had work they would spend the day digging a field. The person in the field all day had no education, there was no other work for them or so the myth or taboo said and the Sun browned them
the high class educated looked whiter because they would live inside a big house and avoided the sun. In cultures and civilization you had people who were outdoors, the Native American, the pastoral nomads owning livestock and the workers who would protect the cow, you had carnies and tinkers and trader nomads. Asia and Europe were not Nomadic once they started making borders and building cities and farms, China looks down on Mongol culture as a brutal time that left little art and culture behind but nomad life is in Mongolia and the horse remains a national symbol in Mongolia. Rich Arabs and North Africans drinking tea in their homes and big tents, the ones who got brown in the Sun were Arabs out in the sand with their camels or Beja nomads from Northeast Africa, they are basically the same 'race' but its a Class thing not a Race thing, the poor ones always brown, the same for India, the lower caste out in the sun begging.

You might try to classify it with your mind as a racial Brown or White or Black thing. But not having a roof over your head to be less brown and avoid the heat of the Sun, its truly 'Class' system. It is nothing linked to a foreign race, it is more about class and often little to do with being a Bantu or a Congoid or have some distant gene relation to some Australopithecus-Africanus old upright human from Africa, people within their own White or Yellow Race and Culture classed the more 'pale' as having lived in doors and the tanned worked the field and maybe had to sleep under the Sun without a roof.


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although some Chinese bloggers claimed Lu’s success was a Western ploy to make China look bad by elevating “ugly” women.


I don't know about bloggers and conspiracy

but Hollyweird culture makes trash now, adverts everywhere for Leslie Jones for example and some freak show Drag Queen transexuals

Everything is re-made or re-imagined into a weird thing it was never supposed to be


Netflix might have been something with potential but its Tv is absolute mindless perverted trash



Even the US citizen has not consume its own product, Americans are watching South Korean shows or getting indie entertainment or buying stuff from Japan, its not just China that finds Hollywood disgusting and ugly

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Friday, June 9, 2023 5:59 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


We know Hollywood has no originality any more

The machine just recycles and spits out another product

Some People might think it was once a Hollywood Original but it was always copied

"The Little Mermaid" - Den lille havfrue a kids fairy tale written by the Danish author Hans Christian Andersen

There is also a statue portraying the mermaid in Copenhagen, Denmark, where the story was written and first published, a major tourist attraction since its unveiling in 1913

If Hollyweird wanted to do something ethnically different they could remake 'Moana' or could look to Austronesian peoples could have picked South Sea island cultures, the Statue of Pania in New Zealand, a figure of Maori mythology.

This site is calling South Koreans racist

Box Office: ‘The Little Mermaid’ Gets Doused in China, South Korea After Racist Backlash
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/box-office-the-lit
tle-mermaid-gets-doused-in-china-south-korea-after-racist-backlash-1235505682/

maybe its not 'Racism'

maybe the movie is just SHIT

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Friday, June 9, 2023 7:51 AM

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We know Hollywood has no originality any more

The machine just recycles and spits out another product

maybe the movie is just SHIT
Fast X is #4 in the Top 10 movie ticket sales for the world, but it is a recycled product. Lucky for you, Fast X is a free download from https://yts.mx/movies/fast-x-2023

Here is a review of Fast X from the same free place:
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Reviewed by BA_Harrison 3 / 10
The worst one yet.

Fast & Furious 9 did what a lot of franchises do at some point: it took the action into outer space. This seemed to me like a good point to call it quits. But with the money still rolling in, nobody in Hollywood was going to end this cash cow; thus we have Fast X, the first in a rumoured three part finale (until the inevitable reboot).

I've been on board with the franchise since the start, sticking with it as it moved from the street racing world into more James Bond territory, the action getting more and more ridiculous with each chapter. Seeing how each movie would top the one before in terms of craziness is what kept me entertained. But Fast X is just dumb, and it's not even dumb fun.

The stunts are more preposterous than ever, but the film is never thrilling, every interminable action scene enhanced by rather ropey CGI (the flames, in particular, look really bad). There are some dreadful attempts at humour (mostly courtesy of Tyrese Gibson and Ludacris), and we get all that inevitable crap about the importance of family (if I see the gang having another barbecue I think I'll hurl).

And then there's Jason Momoa as villain Dante...

I can see what they were going for -- kooky flamboyant psycho capable of almost anything -- but Momoa is absolutely awful, his performance bordering on camp, not helped by the character's dubious choice of attire. It's hard to find Dante menacing when he's flouncing about in a silky shirt. I'll no doubt watch the next two films for the sake of completion, but with Momoa on board it'll be hard going.

Fast X is easily the weakest of the series so far, but I'll give it 3/10 because I guess things could get even worse.
Top 2023 Movies at the Worldwide Box Office
https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/worldwide/all-movies/cu
mulative/released-in-2023

1 The Super Mario Bros. Movie $1,307,267,626
2 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3 $781,623,151
3 Man Jiang Hong $673,556,758
4 Fast X $604,939,594
5 Liu Lang Di Qiu 2 $604,456,556
6 Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania $463,617,397
7 John Wick: Chapter 4 $427,206,725
8 The Little Mermaid $332,060,625
9 Creed III $274,448,615
10 Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse $221,778,128

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, June 9, 2023 9:38 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Top 2023 Movies at the Worldwide Box Office
https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/worldwide/all-movies/cu
mulative/released-in-2023

1 The Super Mario Bros. Movie $1,307,267,626
2 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3 $781,623,151
3 Man Jiang Hong $673,556,758
4 Fast X $604,939,594
5 Liu Lang Di Qiu 2 $604,456,556
6 Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania $463,617,397
7 John Wick: Chapter 4 $427,206,725
8 The Little Mermaid $332,060,625
9 Creed III $274,448,615
10 Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse $221,778,128


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Maybe the Anti-Woke Club won't see the movie, but it is doing as well as its competition


Here's another list for you, because you are stupid.

Worldwide Opening Weekend and percentage of Production Budget made on opening weekend including all American made films in the global top 30:

1 The Super Mario Bros. Movie / Budget: $100,000,000 / WWO: $377,000,000 / 377%
2 M3GAN / Budget: $12,000,000 / WWO: $45,000,000 / 375%
3 Evil Dead Rise / Budget: $19,000,000 / WWO: $40,000,000 / 210%
4 Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse / Budget: $100,000,000 / WWO: $209,000,000 / 209%
5 The Pope's Exorcist / Budget: $18,000,000 / WWO: $36,500,000 / 203%
6 Scream VI / Budget: $35,000,000 / WWO: $67,000,000 / 191%
7 John Wick: Chapter 4 / Budget: $100,000,000 / WWO: $138,000,000 / 138%
8 Creed III / Budget: $75,000,000 / WWO: $100,000,000 / 133%
9 Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania / Budget: $200,000,000 / WWO: $250,000,000 / 125%
10 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3 / Budget: $250,000,000 / WWO: $290,000,000 / 116%
11 Knock at the Cabin / Budget: $20,000,000 / WWO: $21,000,000 / 105%
12 Jesus Revolution / Budget: $15,000,000 / WWO: $15,000,000 / 100%
13 Fast X / Budget: $340,000,000 / WWO: $319,000,000 / 94%
14 Cocaine Bear / Budget: $35,000,000 / WWO: $28,000,000 / 80%
15 The Little Mermaid / Budget: $250,000,000 / WWO: $164,000,000 / 66%
16 Shazam: Fury of the Gods / Budget: $125,000,000 / WWO: $66,000,000 / 53%
17 Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves / Budget: $150,000,000 / WWO: $72,000,000 / 48%
18 AIR / Budget: $70,000,000 / WWO: $30,000,000 / 43%
19 65 / Budget: $45,000,000 / WWO: $12,300,000 / 27%


SPECIAL MENTION:
Mummies / Budget: $12,000,000 / WWO: Unknown / ?

A movie that I've never even heard of until just right now called Mummies is currently 31st on the global list at $53,193,065 and needs a mention because only 8.04% (less than $5 Million) of that came from the domestic market, while the other 91.96% came from international box office. It has now made 442% of its production budget back, making it a clear winner based off of its low budget and its extremely high international take vs domestic take, two things which The Little Mermaid has never had in its favor.


The Little Mermaid is hanging out with all the flops. The only ones even remotely close to it that will succeed will do so because they had reasonable budgets.


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Friday, June 9, 2023 10:20 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


And the only other list that matters:

Winners and losers from the previous list:

Winners:

1. M3GAN made 1,475% of its production budget of $12 Million. [FINAL]
2. Super Mario Bros Movie made 1,313% of its production budget of $100 Million.
3. Evil Dead Rise made 768% of its production budget of $19 Million.
4. Scream IV made 483% of its production budget of $35 Million. [FINAL]
5. Mummies made 442% of its production budget of $12 Million. [FINAL]
6. John Wick: Chapter 4 made 432% of its production budget of $100 Million.
7. The Pope's Exorcist made 405% of its production budget of $18 Million. [FINAL]
8. Creed III made 365% of its production budget of $75 Million. [FINAL]
9. Jesus Revolution made 353% of its production budget of $15 Million. [FINAL]
10. Guardians of the Galaxy: Vol. 3 made 314% of its production budget of $250 Million.
11. Knock at the Cabin made 275% of its production budget of $20 Million. [FINAL]
12. Cocaine Bear made 254% of its production budget of $35 Million. [FINAL]
13. Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse made 248% of its production budget of $100 Million.
14. Ant Man and the Wasp: Quantumania 232% of its production budget of $200 Million.

Losers* (The movies who didn't double their production budget to cover marketing budgets and theater takes):

1. Shazam: Fury of the Gods only made 106% of its production budget. [FINAL]
2. 65 only made 124% of its $45,000,000 production budget. [FINAL]
3. AIR only made 129% of its $70,000,000 production budget. [FINAL]
4. The Little Mermaid only made 137% of its $250,000,000 production budget.
5. Dungeons and Dragons: Honor Among Thieves only made 139% of its $150,000,000 production budget. [FINAL]
6. Fast X only made 186% of its $340,000,000 production budget.

*As of right now, Shazam, AIR, D&D and 65 are the guaranteed losers in 2023 because they are out of the box office and will not make money back for their investors. The Little Mermaid and Fast X are in trouble because of their production costs.

ALSO OF NOTE: If you reference the first list above, Cocaine Bear is the ONLY movie so far in 2023 that didn't gross at least 100% of its production budget on its opening weekend that did not end up at least doubling it by the time it is out of theaters. The rest of the movies that didn't do so are on the Losers list directly above.


The lesson for Disney, besides firing all the woke staff, is to learn that its GUARANTEED BILLION DOLLAR MOVIE days are over. M3GAN only had a $12 Million budget and will likely end up being the 2nd most profitable movie of 2023 for its investors when Super Mario's theater run is over.

They've got to stop spending over $200 Million on every movie they make unless they want to start making things that people want to see again.


It's one thing to look at The Little Mermaid as a huge win by saying it's 8th place Domestic and 13th place Worldwide for 2023 after its first weekend (now 4th place and 8th place, respectively), but when a movie only makes 65% of its production budget worldwide on its first weekend its doomed to lose money in the end after real world accounting is factored in. If the movie had cost $100 Million to make, it would have already been a winner.

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Friday, June 9, 2023 11:00 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


This week in Ask A Black Guy...

"The Little Mermaid is as Racist as Slavery"

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The race swapping in the remake of Disney's The Little Mermaid really got to me. This is by far my angriest rant yet.




Amen, brother.

These white dipshits that are pro-Disney and race swaps in all of their forms in media have hardly had any life experience working with people who aren't white and walk across the street if they see a black person walking their way on the sidewalk. They don't even know how to talk to a black person IRL.

And don't ever forget...

"If you don't know whether or not to vote for me or Trump, then you ain't black." ~Joe Biden

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Saturday, June 10, 2023 6:34 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Trevor Noah Unpacks The Racist Response to The Little Mermaid



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, June 10, 2023 8:49 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Trevor Noah is a racist and a corporate shill.

Why don't you watch the real black guy who isn't being paid millions of dollars to stand up for the big defenseless corporation?

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Saturday, June 10, 2023 9:17 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trevor Noah is a racist and a corporate shill.

Why don't you watch the real black guy who isn't being paid millions of dollars to stand up for the big defenseless corporation?
I was at the funeral of a guy whose favorite saying was "I'm not a racist, the Democrats are the racists." I told his widow long before he died to get life insurance on Jack because he is not thinking ahead about his kids' future and, the way Jack lives, he'll be dead before they are grown and self-supporting. She divorced Jack but kept paying the premiums on the life insurance. Jack was worth more dead than alive to his Ex, and so she and I laughed and went home happily when I repeated his catchphrase "I'm not a racist, the Democrats are the racists."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:07 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trevor Noah is a racist and a corporate shill.

Why don't you watch the real black guy who isn't being paid millions of dollars to stand up for the big defenseless corporation?
I was at the funeral of a guy whose favorite saying was "I'm not a racist, the Democrats are the racists." I told his widow long before he died to get life insurance on Jack because he is not thinking ahead about his kids' future and, the way Jack lives, he'll be dead before they are grown and self-supporting. She divorced Jack but kept paying the premiums on the life insurance. Jack was worth more dead than alive to his Ex, and so she and I laughed and went home happily when I repeated his catchphrase "I'm not a racist, the Democrats are the racists."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Democrats are racists. Black people are waking up and figuring out that they have been tools for the Democrat party. Every election cycle more blacks vote against Democrats.

You've already lost the Asian demographic, and you're losing the Hispanic demographic as well.


And while all this is going on, companies like Disney are going to lose because they're on the wrong side of history.

Nobody gives a shit about your anecdotes regarding your imaginary friends, and your ceaseless attempts to derail threads with your unrelated nonsense.

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Sunday, June 11, 2023 6:20 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Bruce isn't saying shit about The Little Mermaid this week now that the studio projections are in.

He made a prediction that it was going to pull in $30,300,000 Domestic this weekend, and the projections are only $22,790,000.



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Sunday, June 11, 2023 9:23 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK (June 6th):
They expected another billion dollar live-action hit on their hands and they're not even going to make $500 Million when its out of theaters. They will lose at least $100 Million on this woke turd of a movie, if not $200 or $300 Million.


https://www.boxofficemojo.com/showdown/sd1245509124/
MOVIE TITLE / WORLDWIDE GROSS / PRODUCTION BUDGET
The Lion King Remake - $1,656,943,394 / $260,000,000
Beauty and the Beast Remake - $1,263,521,126 / $160,000,000
Aladdin Remake - $1,050,693,953 / $183,000,000
Alice in Wonderland Remake - $1,025,467,110 / $200,000,000
The Jungle Book Remake - $966,550,600 / $175,000,000

The Little Mermaid - ? / $250,000,000

The Little Mermaid doesn't even crack $500 Million, and that's with a 30% increase in ticket prices over any of these other live action cash grabs. (That's how much more ticket prices are post-covid-world)

The only movie that cost more to make on the list was The Lion King, but only by $10 Million and that grossed more than 3 times what The Little Mermaid will gross.


We're at $414,210,339 and running out of steam quickly.

It may make $500 Million, but just barely.

Along with the total failures and direct-to-streaming Pinocchio and Peter Peter and Wendy this year, this might FINALLY be the end of Disney's live action remakes. They can't afford to keep taking L's this big.

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Tuesday, June 13, 2023 7:07 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


It must have been so painful for Variety to put this out...

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/box-office-transformers-spiderverse
-battle-first-place-1235639877/

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Elsewhere at the box office, three holdovers from Disney rounded out the top of North American charts. In third place, “The Little Mermaid” added $22.8 million from 4,320 theaters, declining 46% from the weekend prior. After three weeks of release, the live-action remake is swimming along with $228 million at the domestic box office. But the big-budget film has been struggling at the international box office, where ticket sales have been floundering with $185 million. (Yes, that’s considered “floundering” for a movie that cost $250 million.) At one point, there was hope “The Little Mermaid” would near the $1 billion mark; after a disappointing turnout overseas, it’ll be lucky to hit $500 million.



A Google search on Variety and "The Little Mermaid" comes up with dozens upon dozens upon dozens of articles written up about it since 2019, but this news is buried in paragraph 8 about the weekend box office.



Here's some of the recent greatest hits:

May 8th

‘The Little Mermaid’ First Reactions Praise Halle Bailey’s ‘Astonishing’ Ariel, Question if Remake Lives Up to Animated Original

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/the-little-mermaid-remake-first-rea
ctions-1235603461/

May 22nd

‘The Little Mermaid’ Review: Halle Bailey and Melissa McCarthy Erase Any Doubts About This Remake’s See-Worthiness

https://variety.com/2023/film/reviews/the-little-mermaid-review-halle-
bailey-melissa-mccarthy-1235620560/

May 24th

Box Office: ‘The Little Mermaid’ Swimming to $120 Million-Plus Over Memorial Day Weekend

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/little-mermaid-box-office-memorial-
day-holiday-weekend-1235623771/

May 26th

Box Office: ‘The Little Mermaid’ Makes $10.3 Million in Previews

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/little-mermaid-box-office-previews-
1235625709/

May 27th

Box Office: ‘The Little Mermaid’ Swimming to No. 1 With $38 Million Opening Day

https://variety.com/2023/film/box-office/box-office-the-little-mermaid
-opening-weekend-1235626708/

May 28th

‘The Little Mermaid’ Dominates Memorial Day Box Office With $118 Million Debut

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/little-mermaid-memorial-day-box-off
ice-fast-x-disney-1235627238/

May 29th

‘The Little Mermaid’ Takes Memorial Day Weekend Box Office Crown With Splashy $117.5 Million Debut

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/little-mermaid-opening-weekend-box-
office-disney-remake-1235627658/


They don't appear to have mentioned TLM movie in a headline once in June. Huh... I wonder why that is.



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Tuesday, June 13, 2023 7:12 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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The whole premise of the possibility that Diney might learn a lesson is just.....laughable.


Well... It would seem they haven't learned it yet. School is still in session.



The Little Mermaid live action woke cash grab was a flop, so of course Disney greenlit this:



How come they fixed Flounder but not-Ariel is still black?


Have fun losing more subscribers on Disney+ worldwide.



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Wednesday, June 14, 2023 10:24 PM

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Only $4 Million dollars on Cheap Seat Tuesday in its 3rd week.

Sad.


Super-flop. Just like I said it would be.



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Thursday, June 15, 2023 12:32 AM

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The Little Mermaid Remake's Box Office Destroys Disney's $1 Billion Trend: Will It Recover?

The Little Mermaid's live-action remake has had a pretty disappointing box office return, with it destroying Disney's $1 billion box office trend.

https://screenrant.com/the-little-mermaid-remake-box-office-disney-1-b
illion/

It's losing a LOT more than $20 Million. Dateline is trying to save face for Disney.

We're talking losses for Disney in the $100 Million to $300 Million range when all is said and done.



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Friday, June 16, 2023 10:56 AM

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Long-time Disney shot-caller Christine McCarthy fired from Disney. She was treasurer for the company from 2000 to 2015 when she was promoted to Disney's CFO.

Many considered her next in line after Bob Iger for the CEO position. She was behind removing Bob Chapek and putting Iger back in charge just late last year.

Everyone is saying she's taking "family medical leave", but Iger has said they're already searching for her permanent replacement. They're going to give her some sort of "advisor" title until her contract is up in June of next year, where she will still be making her $20 Million per year salary.

She was CFO during the entire time that Disney ruined Star Wars, Marvel, their own animation studio and their own Pixar brand. Nobody can blame the ruination of Indiana Jones on her, however, since Kingdom of the Crystal Skull came out 7 years before she took the position. The newest entry coming out in 8 days won't help the brand though.



This isn't indicative of Disney making any steps forward to fixing its brand since Bob Iger is still in charge. Though relatively ineffective, it was easy for everyone to throw Bob Chapek under the bus when he got politically involved in Florida and became the catalyst for Disney losing their Reedy Creek special status in the state, but Bob Iger has been the true face of the decline of Disney after the Renaissance years of Michael Eisner in the late 80's through the early 2000s.


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Friday, June 16, 2023 11:04 AM

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The answer is probably not. The Lucasfilm brand is not worth enough money for Disney to sell in its current state. All-in-all, Disney has only been able to gross about 1/4 of the money that it paid for Lucasfilm in 2012, mostly because the merchandising that was always guaranteed income for Star Wars has become a loss for the company with merchandise sitting on the shelves 8 years after a movie is released. If Disney were to sell Lucasfilm entirely, they'd have to either take down everything related to Star-Wars from their theme parks, or they'd have to pay the new owners licensing rights. The third option would be to not sell Lucasfilm entirely and maintain licensing rights, but that sale would be for much less money and with Disney still at least $2.5 Billion in the hole after the purchase they made 11 years ago, Lucasfilm simply isn't worth enough money to actually sell to anyone, let alone George Lucas.

Disney currently is $48.4 Billion in debt in total.

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Friday, June 16, 2023 9:40 PM

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Bruce predicted $30.3 Million for this bomb last weekend and it made $23.15 Million.

This weekend he predicts it will make $14.7 Million.

With Disney's other woke Pixar flick in direct competition with it now, the Transformers movie and Spider Man still which are also geared toward kids still making money and a Super Mario movie that's still in over 1,400 theaters, I'm going to call $12 Million and change.


The international box office on this woke turd is only $185 Million, and the chances this makes $300 Million in the US is looking bleaker every week.

It will crack $450 Million by the end of this weekend when the international numbers come on, but will that be enough for it to even break $500 Million when it's out of theaters?


I should have gone with my gut and said it won't make a dime over $12 Million this weekend.

Studio Projections: $11,600,000


I still think there's a good chance I was right. With only $400k wiggle room the projections are at least a 50/50 shot that this figure is low and it still made over $12 Million for the weekend.


Bruce Nash needs to throw out his models and just hire me to do his predictions from now on.

His predicted entire box office for the weekend was over $220 Million and the projections are now only $160 Million.

Nobody wants to see any of this woke bullshit anymore.




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Sunday, June 18, 2023 9:21 PM

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What are you doing, Bruce? Don't simp for the big corporations.

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The Flash will take some consolation from a $75-million debut internationally, but this is a disappointing start to the new DC Universe, albeit a better start than Shazam! Fury of the Gods’ $30.1 million. Black Adam is probably a better benchmark, and it opened with $67 million back in October. Black Adam made $7.6 million from previews compared to The Flash’s $9.7 million, which gives a measure of how much The Flash has fallen away through the weekend.

Things look even worse for Elemental, which risks posting the lowest opening ever for a Pixar movie, a record held by their very first film, Toy Story, which opened wit $29.1 million way back in 1995.

Given that both films are getting generally good reviews and a positive reaction from audiences, one question worth asking is whether competition with other films is a factor here. There’s definitely evidence for that, with all films in the top six looking like they will end the weekend more than 20% behind our model’s Friday-morning prediction. Summer weather may be a factor too, and the Juneteenth long weekend could be causing some people to wait until Monday to go to the movies.


No dude. And you know it. It wasn't about other films being in competition that lowered these numbers. You predicted a $220 Million dollar box office this weekend and got a $163 Million box office instead.

THAT'S A $57 MILLION DEFICIT FOR ALL FILMS IN THE BOX OFFICE THIS WEEKEND!!!!

It wasn't the weather either. You know full well and have posted it before that when it gets hot outside people are more likely to pay to go see a movie in the nice air conditioning.

And it sure as hell wasn't Juneteenth. The only people who get that day off are bankers, teachers, post office workers and other government employees. Everybody else works on Juneteenth, including a vast majority of the blacks that the holiday is made for.

You'd better put the "Woke Factor" into your prediction models going forward, hire me to make your predictions, or just keep doing what you're doing and pretending you don't know why your models are failing you until you become irrelevant.

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Monday, June 19, 2023 10:43 AM

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Is South Korea Really Racist? Koreans Explain Why “The Little Mermaid” Tanked In Local Box Offices

https://www.koreaboo.com/news/little-mermaid-korea-racist-reason-flopp
ed/

Yes, Koreans. I agree. Fuck CNN.






Disney Faces Box Office Setbacks: ‘The Little Mermaid’ Woke Remake Fails to Make Waves

https://www.tvmix.com/disney-faces-box-office-setbacks-the-little-merm
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Disney’s struggles with “The Little Mermaid” remake are indicative of larger issues within the company. The once-unassailable entertainment empire is grappling with declining theme park attendance and a string of underperforming television shows. In an industry where success hinges on adaptability to changing trends and audience preferences, Disney’s formula seems to be losing its charm. Despite its vast array of intellectual properties and an enormous fan base, the company is finding it increasingly difficult to resonate with audiences as it did in the past.

While “The Little Mermaid” is just one piece of the puzzle, it exemplifies the broader challenges Disney is currently facing. From diminishing theme park footfall to lackluster TV series, the cracks in Disney’s armor are becoming more apparent. To regain its former glory, the company must reevaluate its strategies and recapture the magic that once made it an unrivaled entertainment powerhouse.

In a rapidly evolving industry, companies that fail to adapt risk falling behind their competitors. Disney now stands at a crossroads where it must reinvent itself to remain relevant and regain the trust and enthusiasm of its supporters. Whether the House of Mouse can weather this storm and reclaim its status as the reigning champion of the entertainment industry remains to be seen.


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Monday, June 19, 2023 8:06 PM

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The writers of the reboot must have gotten confused and thought Ursula was Genie from Aladdin. She might have given black not-Ariel legs, but they are about as useless as Stephen Hawking's were to him.




Weekend projections were more than half a million high and the turd just barely made $11 Million on weekend 4 in the US. All of the international reporting is up to date as of today. Still needs $35 Million to double the production budget and save itself from being a complete flop.

Some analysts say that it needs $700-750 Million to break even because of the extra money that was put into marketing on this one, but without having ACTUAL marketing numbers on hand I can't verify that and I will put it in the "Winner" category in the ongoing 2023 box office tables if it hits $500 Million because I don't pick and choose when I apply arguments like some people here do. But even then, it will still be 16th place on the list of 23 US produced movies that have made the top 35 worldwide releases globally for 2023. (Which, incidentally, directly mirrors what place it currently sits in its global opening weekend vs. production budget numbers).

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Worldwide Opening Weekend and percentage of Production Budget made on opening weekend including all American made films in the global top 35:

1 The Super Mario Bros. Movie / Budget: $100,000,000 / WWO: $377,000,000 / 377%
2 M3GAN / Budget: $12,000,000 / WWO: $45,000,000 / 375%
3 Evil Dead Rise / Budget: $19,000,000 / WWO: $40,000,000 / 210%
4 Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse / Budget: $100,000,000 / WWO: $209,000,000 / 209%
5 The Pope's Exorcist / Budget: $18,000,000 / WWO: $36,500,000 / 203%
6 Scream VI / Budget: $35,000,000 / WWO: $67,000,000 / 191%
7 John Wick: Chapter 4 / Budget: $100,000,000 / WWO: $138,000,000 / 138%
8 Creed III / Budget: $75,000,000 / WWO: $100,000,000 / 133%
9 Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania / Budget: $200,000,000 / WWO: $250,000,000 / 125%
10 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3 / Budget: $250,000,000 / WWO: $290,000,000 / 116%
11 Knock at the Cabin / Budget: $20,000,000 / WWO: $21,000,000 / 105%
12 Jesus Revolution / Budget: $15,000,000 / WWO: $15,000,000 / 100%
13 Fast X / Budget: $340,000,000 / WWO: $319,000,000 / 94%
14 Transformers: Rise of the Beasts / Budget: $195,000,000 / WWO: $170,000,000 / 87%
15 Cocaine Bear / Budget: $35,000,000 / WWO: $28,000,000 / 80%
16 The Little Mermaid / Budget: $250,000,000 / WWO: $164,000,000 / 66%
17 The Boogeyman / Budget: $35,000,000 / WWO: $20,000,000 / 57%
18 Shazam: Fury of the Gods / Budget: $125,000,000 / WWO: $66,000,000 / 53%
19 Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves / Budget: $150,000,000 / WWO: $72,000,000 / 48%
20 AIR / Budget: $70,000,000 / WWO: $30,000,000 / 43%
21 65 / Budget: $45,000,000 / WWO: $12,300,000 / 27%
22 Magic Mike's Last Dance / Budget: $45,000,000 / WWO: $8,000,000 / 18%


SPECIAL MENTION:
Mummies / Budget: $12,000,000 / WWO: Unknown / ?

A movie that I've never even heard of until just right now called Mummies is currently 31st on the global list at $53,193,065 and needs a mention because only 8.04% (less than $5 Million) of that came from the domestic market, while the other 91.96% came from international box office. It has now made 442% of its production budget back, making it a clear winner based off of its low budget and its extremely high international take vs domestic take, two things which The Little Mermaid has never had in its favor.


The Little Mermaid is hanging out with all the flops. The only ones even remotely close to it that will succeed will do so because they had reasonable budgets.




And the only other list that matters:

Winners and losers from the previous list:

Winners:

1. M3GAN made 1,475% of its production budget of $12 Million. [FINAL]
2. Super Mario Bros Movie made 1,336% of its production budget of $100 Million.
3. Evil Dead Rise made 768% of its production budget of $19 Million. [FINAL]
4. Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse made 489% of its production budget of $100 Million.
5. Scream IV made 483% of its production budget of $35 Million. [FINAL]
6. Mummies made 442% of its production budget of $12 Million. [FINAL]
7. John Wick: Chapter 4 made 432% of its production budget of $100 Million. [FINAL]
8. The Pope's Exorcist made 405% of its production budget of $18 Million. [FINAL]
9. Creed III made 365% of its production budget of $75 Million. [FINAL]
10. Jesus Revolution made 353% of its production budget of $15 Million. [FINAL]
11. Guardians of the Galaxy: Vol. 3 made 328% of its production budget of $250 Million.
12. Knock at the Cabin made 275% of its production budget of $20 Million. [FINAL]
13. Cocaine Bear made 254% of its production budget of $35 Million. [FINAL]
14. Ant Man and the Wasp: Quantumania 232% of its production budget of $200 Million. [FINAL]

Losers* (The movies who didn't double their production budget to cover marketing budgets and theater takes):

1. Shazam: Fury of the Gods only made 106% of its production budget. [FINAL]
2. 65 only made 124% of its $45,000,000 production budget. [FINAL]
3. Magic Mike's Last Dance only made 124% of its $45,000,000 production budget. [FINAL]
4. AIR only made 129% of its $70,000,000 production budget. [FINAL]
5. Dungeons and Dragons: Honor Among Thieves only made 139% of its $150,000,000 production budget. [FINAL]
6. Transformers: Rise of the Beasts only made 141% of its $195,000,000 production budget.
7. The Boogeyman only made 145% of its $35,000,000 production budget.
8. The Little Mermaid only made 186% of its $250,000,000 production budget.
9. Fast X only made 198% of its $340,000,000 production budget.


And don't forget, even the woke legacy Media has said that Antman and the Wasp was a failure, despite the fact it made 232% of its production budget worldwide... and easy thing for them to do because the lead actors are white people. My "winner" category is VERY forgiving, and automatically puts a movie on the winners list just for doubling the production budget and not knowing what the actual marketing expenses and theater takes for each individual flick is (because that data is not provided to the public).

That being said, Fast X is so very close to making twice its mammoth $340 Million production budget back too.

But for both the people behind Fast X and Disney, they both know they're going to have to do something to trim the budget of these flicks if they can't entice more people to go see them. I can't imagine the investors of Fast X are going to want to risk anything close to $340 Million on Fast XI just to break even if they even bother with another sequel.

Disney is very slow to learn any lessons, but half of 2022 and the entirety of 2023 is going to be an extremely expensive one for them. Breaking even or even making a few bucks on something you'd thought would double your investment is just not good enough when you're losing money on almost every other production you make for a year. In the Triple A Gaming space, only one flop could see your company folding and being sold off to another developer. How much more capital does Disney have to intentionally burn making woke product that increasingly less people are interested in consuming?



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Wednesday, June 21, 2023 10:49 AM

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What are you doing, Bruce? Don't simp for the big corporations.

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The Flash will take some consolation from a $75-million debut internationally, but this is a disappointing start to the new DC Universe, albeit a better start than Shazam! Fury of the Gods’ $30.1 million. Black Adam is probably a better benchmark, and it opened with $67 million back in October. Black Adam made $7.6 million from previews compared to The Flash’s $9.7 million, which gives a measure of how much The Flash has fallen away through the weekend.

Things look even worse for Elemental, which risks posting the lowest opening ever for a Pixar movie, a record held by their very first film, Toy Story, which opened wit $29.1 million way back in 1995.

Given that both films are getting generally good reviews and a positive reaction from audiences, one question worth asking is whether competition with other films is a factor here. There’s definitely evidence for that, with all films in the top six looking like they will end the weekend more than 20% behind our model’s Friday-morning prediction. Summer weather may be a factor too, and the Juneteenth long weekend could be causing some people to wait until Monday to go to the movies.


No dude. And you know it. It wasn't about other films being in competition that lowered these numbers. You predicted a $220 Million dollar box office this weekend and got a $163 Million box office instead.

THAT'S A $57 MILLION DEFICIT FOR ALL FILMS IN THE BOX OFFICE THIS WEEKEND!!!!

It wasn't the weather either. You know full well and have posted it before that when it gets hot outside people are more likely to pay to go see a movie in the nice air conditioning.

And it sure as hell wasn't Juneteenth. The only people who get that day off are bankers, teachers, post office workers and other government employees. Everybody else works on Juneteenth, including a vast majority of the blacks that the holiday is made for.

You'd better put the "Woke Factor" into your prediction models going forward, hire me to make your predictions, or just keep doing what you're doing and pretending you don't know why your models are failing you until you become irrelevant.


Juneteenth Numbers:

Movie Title / Juneteenth Take / Percent Drop from Sunday
1 The Flash $6,160,801 -60%
2 Spider-Man: Across the Spiderverse $6,101,912 -31%
3 Elemental $5,304,25 -34%
4 Transformers: Rise of the Beasts $3,321,458 -58%
5 The Little Mermaid $2,705,927 -6%

With the exception of the single-digit loss for black not-Ariel, Juneteenth didn't move the needle. In fact, if you look at the Monday's for all of the big box office movies this year, particularly when they've reached that $3 to $6 Million per day area, the percentage drops are right in line with what they always are from Sunday to Monday.

So that's 2 out of 3 of your theories debunked by math, with the third about the weather debunked before you wrote it.

My guess will be that every movie on that list will have made more money on Cheap Seat Tuesday than they did on Juneteenth once yesterday's numbers come in.

The Flash in particular just took a huge beating. It only pulled in $59k more than the Miles Morales sequel that's already been out for 18 days.



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Wednesday, June 21, 2023 10:19 PM

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My guess will be that every movie on that list will have made more money on Cheap Seat Tuesday than they did on Juneteenth once yesterday's numbers come in.




I was wrong. They all made even less money on cheap seat Tuesday than the abysmal-for-a-holiday Juneteenth numbers. Every single one of them.

Throw all the woke trash in the bin.

I'm quite enjoying watching Hollywood finally burn.

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The blowback – much of it overtly racist – has also played out among ordinary Chinese film-goers online.


Meanwhile, the two movies that Chinese people WERE choosing to see in droves while they avoided this woke disaster like the plague were Black Spider-Man Miles Morales and the extremely diverse cast of Fast X.

Another good story ruined by reality.



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Monday, June 26, 2023 12:12 PM

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The Little Mermaid will gross $500 Million Worldwide after Monday's numbers come in.

True to my word, I will put it in the "winners" category based off the twice the production budget rule of thumb, but the investors at Disney know the true numbers that were behind this and I suspect that we're going to see a huge ramp-down of live-action Disney remakes after this one failed to get even close to $1 Billion like its predecessors did while being the 2nd most expensive live-action remake in history for the company.

In any event, unless I find out any undeniable information about the non-Production Budget financials being more than usually spent to promote this film, any small amount of money TLM makes going forward will be subtracting from Disney's gaping money pit of 2023.


OH... and all that being said, I'd really appreciate it if YouTubers and movie review sites were to back up their claims that a movie now needs to make 2.5 to 3 times the production budget to break even. Especially given the rise in costs of EVERYTHING during the Biden* Administration, I'm not going to argue that this isn't true, but somebody needs to bring some real receipts to the table proving this when it's been generally accepted for years that a movie had to double its production budget to break even. As I stated several times in these failure threads, I will not move the goalposts on this just to make the numbers look more in line than what I want to see, and I feel that this is happening more and more often as the year drags on with zero concrete evidence available to back up those claims.

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OH... and all that being said, I'd really appreciate it if YouTubers and movie review sites were to back up their claims that a movie now needs to make 2.5 to 3 times the production budget to break even. Especially given the rise in costs of EVERYTHING during the Biden* Administration, I'm not going to argue that this isn't true, but somebody needs to bring some real receipts to the table proving this when it's been generally accepted for years that a movie had to double its production budget to break even. As I stated several times in these failure threads, I will not move the goalposts on this just to make the numbers look more in line than what I want to see, and I feel that this is happening more and more often as the year drags on with zero concrete evidence available to back up those claims.


It's far too easy to bastardize the facts when everyone is playing Telephone, and I will not be a part of that.

Here's a great example of that, and one that has gone on for nearly 4 decades.



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Monday, June 26, 2023 10:13 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Quote:
Originally posted by second:
The blowback – much of it overtly racist – has also played out among ordinary Chinese film-goers online.


Meanwhile, the two movies that Chinese people WERE choosing to see in droves while they avoided this woke disaster like the plague were Black Spider-Man Miles Morales and the extremely diverse cast of Fast X.

Another good story ruined by reality.
Opinion: My childhood in Hong Kong prepared me for how China reacted to ‘The Little Mermaid’

Opinion by MonaLisa Leung Beckford
Updated 12:21 PM EDT, Mon June 26, 2023

My father is Chinese and my mother is Jamaican. I was born in Hong Kong, which is where I spent the first 12 years of my life. Being Black profoundly shaped my early childhood. At school, on the playground and in my neighborhood, my siblings and I were always the only Black kids around.

My excitement about the casting of “The Little Mermaid” turned to disappointment when I saw the negative reception the film received when it opened in Hong Kong. Many people posted derogatory commentary online, expressing displeasure that Halle Bailey, a Black actress, had been cast in the lead role.

As I scrolled through movie reviews on Douban (a popular Chinese movie review website), it was upsetting to see comments like, “she’s a Black clown mermaid” and “this is the ugliest version of ‘The Little Mermaid’.”

The remarks reminded me of the racism I encountered in my childhood as an Afro-Asian child in Hong Kong.

I was called all types of names in Cantonese, among them (dirty girl) and (black girl). There wasn’t much in the way of microaggressions – racism towards me was never subtle. Among my classmates, I was sometimes singled out for punishment by my teachers for innocuous behavior like biting my nails.

On one occasion, I was accused of having somehow caused a classmate’s eczema on her arm by my mere proximity to her. And for a school art project, rather than being praised for my keen eye and attention to detail, I was accused of plagiarism and punished for having turned in an assignment that looked too perfect to be my own handiwork.

One of the worst days of my childhood occurred on the night of my 10th birthday when I suffered an asthma attack and was coughing up blood. The emergency room doctor at one hospital turned me away, insisting that nothing serious was wrong with me. My parents took me to a different hospital, where I was admitted immediately. I was deemed sick enough to require four days of treatment there.

Against that backdrop of discriminatory treatment and racist taunts, I’m really not all that surprised about the negative reviews directed at a fictional Black mermaid. Colorism has existed in China since long before “The Little Mermaid.”

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/26/opinions/little-mermaid-racism-asia-chi
na-hongkong-leung-beckford/index.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Anybody who uses the word microaggressions can be ignored out of hand.

CNN is the perfect place for that, since nobody watches or reads CNN in current year.

*yawn*

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Anybody who uses the word microaggressions can be ignored out of hand.

CNN is the perfect place for that, since nobody watches or reads CNN in current year.
6ix, it is unsurprising that you stayed drunk for years since you are the guy who has never been anywhere, never done anything, unemployable, yet thinks he is a huge success because, you know, you recognized Trump very early as your ultimate leader, the perfect asshole for your kind. Don't forget to say, "Trump will be fine . . ."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Anybody who uses the word microaggressions can be ignored out of hand.

CNN is the perfect place for that, since nobody watches or reads CNN in current year.
6ix, it is unsurprising that you stayed drunk for years since you are the guy who has never been anywhere, never done anything, unemployable, yet thinks he is a huge success because, you know, you recognized Trump very early as your ultimate leader, the perfect asshole for your kind. Don't forget to say, "Trump will be fine . . ."

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I don't see how any of that has anything to do with nobody watching CNN, a silly woman who uses words like microaggressions or the failure of The Little Mermaid as a whole.

I've done plenty. Including quitting drinking cold turkey for going on 7 years now without any group meetings or self-help books, and earning the median wealth of your average adult in Iceland by the time I was 40 despite the drinking and other bad choices I made along the way.

And yes. Trump will be fine. But again, I don't see how that has anything to do with CNN putting itself out of business, an SJW brainlet it Hong Kong, or black Ariel not being Ariel.



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I don't see how any of that has anything to do with nobody watching CNN, a silly woman who uses words like microaggressions or the failure of The Little Mermaid as a whole.

I've done plenty. Including quitting drinking cold turkey for going on 7 years now without any group meetings or self-help books, and earning the median wealth of your average adult in Iceland by the time I was 40 despite the drinking and other bad choices I made along the way.

And yes. Trump will be fine. But again, I don't see how that has anything to do with CNN putting itself out of business, an SJW brainlet it Hong Kong, or black Ariel not being Ariel.
When you were a child, did you miss the message that drunkenness is bad? For one example, the Simpsons have Homer and Barney pass the message on by example to little children that being drunk is bad. But you didn't get the message, did you? Oh, and read what each pack of cigarettes tells you, 6ix. "Smoking Kills" is another message that you are missing. As you demonstrate in nearly every comment you make, there are myriad more simple lessons you have not yet learned that go beyond drinking and smoking, but you have a disorderly mind that resists such lifesaving knowledge. Just say No to Nazism, 6ix. That is a life lesson Trumptards aren't able to grasp because it is abstract compared to the lesson about drunkenness. Just as there are many varieties of alcohol that make people into drunks, there are many varieties of politicians that make people into Nazis. Stay away from those politicians.

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I don't see how any of that has anything to do with nobody watching CNN, a silly woman who uses words like microaggressions or the failure of The Little Mermaid as a whole.

I've done plenty. Including quitting drinking cold turkey for going on 7 years now without any group meetings or self-help books, and earning the median wealth of your average adult in Iceland by the time I was 40 despite the drinking and other bad choices I made along the way.

And yes. Trump will be fine. But again, I don't see how that has anything to do with CNN putting itself out of business, an SJW brainlet it Hong Kong, or black Ariel not being Ariel.
When you were a child, did you miss the message that drunkenness is bad?


I don't read past idiocy like this, and I won't be judged by the likes of you either.

Stay on topic, or GTFO.

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I don't read past idiocy like this, and I won't be judged by the likes of you either.

Stay on topic, or GTFO.
The topic is always the same: the people who defend Trump are mentally deranged, the same kind of derangement Trump has. You Trumptards don't recognize where and what limits you violate constantly. As a result, you constantly have problems. See for example how many thousands of times Trump has been sued or bankrupt or in the hospital or audited for tax cheating or divorced. You and Trump are crazy. That is the real topic, 6ix. Little Mermaid and Disney only bring highlights to your craziness.

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I don't read past idiocy like this, and I won't be judged by the likes of you either.

Stay on topic, or GTFO.
The topic is always the same:


Yes. The Little Mermaid Failure Thread

You seem to be really defensive about a movie that you pirated and disrespected Haken by posting pirate links on his boards for.

Keep defending the big Corps, buddy.

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Top 2023 Movies at the Domestic Box Office

1 The Super Mario Bros. Movie Universal $573,790,110
2 Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse Sony Pict... $358,953,700
3 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3 Walt Disney $357,570,077
4 The Little Mermaid Walt Disney $289,228,651
5 Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania Walt Disney $214,506,909
6 John Wick: Chapter 4 Lionsgate $187,131,806
7 Creed III United Artists $156,248,615
8 Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Paramount $146,829,334
9 Fast X Universal $145,912,125
10 Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny Walt Disney $122,126,405

https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/domestic/all-movies/cum
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Tuesday, July 11, 2023 6:43 PM

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Top 2023 Movies at the Domestic Box Office

1 The Super Mario Bros. Movie Universal $573,790,110
2 Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse Sony Pict... $358,953,700
3 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3 Walt Disney $357,570,077
4 The Little Mermaid Walt Disney $289,228,651
5 Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania Walt Disney $214,506,909
6 John Wick: Chapter 4 Lionsgate $187,131,806
7 Creed III United Artists $156,248,615
8 Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Paramount $146,829,334
9 Fast X Universal $145,912,125
10 Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny Walt Disney $122,126,405

https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/domestic/all-movies/cum
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Big whoop. It's been a year of under-performing failures, and TLM is one of the most expensive movies that came out this year.

$289 Million is a terrible number for Disney when they were expecting over a Billion worldwide for this movie.

The BEST Disney can hope for at this point is to break even for 2023, or possibly end up making $100-$300 Million on all of their films combined.

Pre-Phase 4 of the MCU they were knocking out Billion Dollar movies left and right, both with their Marvel franchise and live-action remakes of old Disney classics.

They're in the hole over $4 Billion with Disney+. (And that's only what they're admitting to).

They've destroyed all three of the Lucasfilm IP's that they paid $4 Billion for, and they can't even sell Lucasfilm to anybody because it's not worth any money.

Disney/Marvel/Lucasfilm toys won't sell and are still on store shelves 5 to 10 years after the movie came out.

Their shares are still down over $107 from their 2019 peak.

They have no movies coming out the rest of the year expected to make any real money.


Breaking even on Black Little Mermaid is nothing to celebrate. In fact, between that failure and the failure of Peter Pan and Wendy, there's talk that it might be a very, very long time that Disney decides to make another live-action remake of any of their properties... if ever.


All they had to do was give the people white Ariel with red hair and not stuff this piece of shit with Leftist agenda crap and this movie would have made more than Super Mario Brothers did worldwide, and it would have generated a billion dollars profit for them instead of the $70 or so Million they'll bank from it by the time it exits the box office.

I hope it was worth it, in a year where Disney isn't going to make any decent money off of any of its films outside of Guardian's of the Galaxy's last hurrah.

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Tuesday, July 11, 2023 7:27 PM

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Top Gun remake, new Avatar and Spider-Man No Way Home made money so its not post-Covid people have returned to Cinema, also some of these films were dividing because of politics, some had to much of 'The Message' some have viewer fatigue on style and genre and the Superhero thing seems over done anyways.
Strange enough you do find hits pop up, the vidoe game product 'The Super Mario Bros' made into a movie

Flops that had big loss Justice League, The 355, Amsterdam, the Flash, Black Adam, Lightyear, Moonfall, Terminator Dark Fate, West Side Story remake, Strange World, Wonder Woman 1984, Dark Phoenix, Shazam 2 Becomes the Worst-Ever Box Office Earner In DCEU History, Babylon 2022, Suicide Squad, LeBron Space Jam A New Legacy, The Matrix feminist transexual Resurrections, New Ant-Man Quantum mania flopped, new Indiana Jones.

‘Transformers: Rise of the Beasts’ a possible flop

...also comedy the Political Thought Police killed comedy so you are not allowed laugh anymore

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All they had to do was give the people white Ariel with red hair and not stuff this piece of shit with Leftist agenda crap and this movie would have made more than Super Mario Brothers did worldwide, and it would have generated a billion dollars profit for them instead of the $70 or so Million they'll bank from it by the time it exits the box office.
There is no color Ariel that would make The Little Mermaid more money. You're crazy to believe that Disney would be able to please people by changing Ariel.

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Here is a quick example of how Hollywood greenlights crap movies:

Firefly was the greatest TV show back 22 years ago. What it needs is a sequel! We will call it Serenity.
(An aide says that there are already two movies on IMDB.com with the title "Serenity")

Okay! We'll call it Serenity Three! And we will use the same technology that de-aged Harrison Ford on Captain Mal. What was that guy's name?
(Nathan Fillion says the aide.)

With the reputation of Firefly and, what is his name? The guy from Buffy?
(The aide says Joss Whedon, but he is in the doghouse.)

Doghouse? Oh! Now I remember. We'll get somebody else to write and direct Serenity Three! With all of Firefly's fans, we will sell a billion tickets. Easily when there are 8 billion people on Earth. Maybe we can get Matthew McConaughey and Anne Hathaway from that other Serenity to star in Serenity Three!
(Great idea says the aide. Boss, you are a pure creative genius.)

The Other Serenity, the one with McConaughey and Anne Hathaway:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6476140/

"Similar to Collateral Beauty and The Book of Henry—recent dramas with esteemed casts that went off the rails in enjoyably awful ways—Serenity is the kind of bonkers movie that truly must be seen to be believed".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serenity_(2019_film)#Critical_response

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Tuesday, July 11, 2023 9:52 PM

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All they had to do was give the people white Ariel with red hair and not stuff this piece of shit with Leftist agenda crap and this movie would have made more than Super Mario Brothers did worldwide, and it would have generated a billion dollars profit for them instead of the $70 or so Million they'll bank from it by the time it exits the box office.
There is no color Ariel that would make The Little Mermaid more money.


Ariel is white. Black Ariel is not Ariel.

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You're crazy to believe that Disney would be able to please people by changing Ariel.


That's exactly my point. Disney destroyed the chances of that movie by changing Ariel and they were crazy to believe that they were pleasing people by changing Ariel.

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That's exactly my point. Disney destroyed the chances of that movie by changing Ariel and they were crazy to believe that they were pleasing people by changing Ariel.
Here is an "original" idea: don't make The Little Mermaid. What should Disney make, instead? Rather than a live-action The Little Mermaid musical, Disney should have done a cartoon version of Nunsense, a deeply sophomoric musical about 52 dead nuns (poisoned by tainted vichyssoise, so the surviving nuns had to put on a talent show to raise the money to bury them). It played throughout the world and spawned spin-offs that included Nunsense A-Men (the all-male version), Nuncrackers, and Meshuggah-Nuns, which allows Disney to make cartoon sequels to Nunsense.
https://andrewtobias.com/a-few-words-about-nuns-and-more/

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Wednesday, July 12, 2023 12:10 AM

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That's exactly my point. Disney destroyed the chances of that movie by changing Ariel and they were crazy to believe that they were pleasing people by changing Ariel.
Here is an "original" idea: don't make The Little Mermaid. What should Disney make, instead? Rather than a live-action The Little Mermaid musical, Disney should have done a cartoon version of Nunsense, a deeply sophomoric musical about 52 dead nuns (poisoned by tainted vichyssoise, so the surviving nuns had to put on a talent show to raise the money to bury them). It played throughout the world and spawned spin-offs that included Nunsense A-Men (the all-male version), Nuncrackers, and Meshuggah-Nuns, which allows Disney to make cartoon sequels to Nunsense.
https://andrewtobias.com/a-few-words-about-nuns-and-more/

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An extremely weird reply, but I can't say I disagree with the overall idea of it.

The answer is, of course, money. No matter how bad they were up until 2023, almost every live-action remake of Disney classics brought in tons of money. Until 2023, these were always a safe bet, and nobody even had to put any thought or real work into them. Nobody had to take a chance on a new idea. It was like a money printing press.

People are tired of Disney. They are tired of being preached to in their entertainment. They are tired of the race and gender swaps. And they're really tired of paying $100+ for family movie night at the theaters for any or all of the above.

Disney fucked up here. If they put a white girl in the leading role like they should have, and they didn't put all the woke man-hating nonsense along with Akwifna doing the dumbest Disney song ever made, it would have made over a billion. Easily.


But what they got instead was a very meager payout, hardly worth anybody's time who was involved in the production. It was the 2nd highest production budget of any live-action Disney movie made, and it's very low on the list of worldwide gross for live-action Disney remakes.

Add to that, they knew that Peter Pan and Wendy was so terrible that they didn't even bother putting it in the theaters and it's been a very expensive wakeup call for Disney. And not something they wanted to see with other massive failures like Elemental and Indy 5, on top of a pathetic earning on Antman. The only real win they'll likely get this year is the money from Guardians 3, but even that fell short of the Billion it probably should have made.

I don't know what the hell Disney is going to do in 2024 to start turning this around. I don't know if Disney knows what the hell it's going to do to turn it around either.

They'd better figure it out though. They can't afford two years in a row like this.

Especially not when Universal is embarrassing them at every turn while also figuring out how to finally make video game movies that people will pay to see. Nintendo is a very powerful ally.

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Especially not when Universal is embarrassing them at every turn while also figuring out how to finally make video game movies that people will pay to see. Nintendo is a very powerful ally.
Come to your own conclusions by looking at the numbers for inflation-adjusted ticket sales:

Box Office History for Universal
https://www.the-numbers.com/market/distributor/Universal

Box Office History for Walt Disney
https://www.the-numbers.com/market/distributor/Walt-Disney

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Especially not when Universal is embarrassing them at every turn while also figuring out how to finally make video game movies that people will pay to see. Nintendo is a very powerful ally.
Come to your own conclusions by looking at the numbers for inflation-adjusted ticket sales:

Box Office History for Universal
https://www.the-numbers.com/market/distributor/Universal

Box Office History for Walt Disney
https://www.the-numbers.com/market/distributor/Walt-Disney

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That is a stupid reply. No reason to adjust anything for inflation.

We're not talking about history here. We're talking about 2023 and beyond.

Disney is getting their ass kicked right now, and until it corrects course that is not going to change.

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The Little Mermaid will gross $500 Million Worldwide after Monday's numbers come in.

True to my word, I will put it in the "winners" category based off the twice the production budget rule of thumb, but the investors at Disney know the true numbers that were behind this and I suspect that we're going to see a huge ramp-down of live-action Disney remakes after this one failed to get even close to $1 Billion like its predecessors did while being the 2nd most expensive live-action remake in history for the company.

In any event, unless I find out any undeniable information about the non-Production Budget financials being more than usually spent to promote this film, any small amount of money TLM makes going forward will be subtracting from Disney's gaping money pit of 2023.


OH... and all that being said, I'd really appreciate it if YouTubers and movie review sites were to back up their claims that a movie now needs to make 2.5 to 3 times the production budget to break even. Especially given the rise in costs of EVERYTHING during the Biden* Administration, I'm not going to argue that this isn't true, but somebody needs to bring some real receipts to the table proving this when it's been generally accepted for years that a movie had to double its production budget to break even. As I stated several times in these failure threads, I will not move the goalposts on this just to make the numbers look more in line than what I want to see, and I feel that this is happening more and more often as the year drags on with zero concrete evidence available to back up those claims.

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Thanks to Jaynez for posting this article from Disney ass-lickers, Variety.

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/disney-box-office-failures-indiana-
jones-elemental-ant-man-1235660409/

I still need more evidence, but if Variety is willing to actually admit the following line in an article about Disney's problems this year, there may be some merit to the idea that the rule of thumb has changed:

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For the past decade, Disney has been the Teflon movie studio, remarkably adept at withstanding the tectonic changes impacting the film industry, and well fortified by its arsenal of key properties such as Marvel, Lucasfilm and Pixar.

But this year, the long-reigning titan of the box office has shown cracks as four of its biggest releases from those brands and others have struggled in theaters. There was the dispiriting release of “Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania,” a rare Marvel movie to likely lose tens of millions in its theatrical run; “The Little Mermaid,” a remake of the 1989 animated classic that fell drastically short of expectations; “Elemental,” an original story that tried and failed to recapture Pixar’s magic; and most recently “Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny,” a nearly $300 million investment in one of cinemas’ most venerable franchises, which no longer appears to have the same hold on today’s audiences. On paper, these films seemed like they had all of the makings of huge hits, but somehow the Disney sparkle was lacking this time, in terms of filling movie theater seats.


Focus now on the part I underlined about Ant-Man and the Wasp and how it is "likely to lose tens of millions in its theatrical run.

Oh, honey... You didn't just admit that out loud, did you?

Though it's a weak win, I currently have Quantumania on the list of winners in my 2023 Disney Failure thread here:

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Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania * [Walt Disney Pictures/Marvel Studios] (February 17th, 2023)
Production Budget: $200,000,000
source: https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Ant-Man-and-the-Wasp-Quantumania-(20
23)#tab=summary
Worldwide Opening Weekend: $250,000,000 (125% of Production Budget)
FINAL Worldwide Gross: $463,635,303 (232% of Production Budget)

Net Gain/Loss: +$63,635,303 [FINAL]


The rule of thumb dictates that any money made above 200% of the production budget is profit. Quantumania was 232% above Production Budget for a Gross Profit of $63,635,303.00 for Disney.


But you're saying that Disney is likely to lose tens of millions of dollars on this film? Do tell? There's only one possible way that this is the case then, and that would be that studios now need to make more than 200% of the production budget to break even in 2023. That's the bitch about math, you see. The math doesn't lie. So if you're going to stop lying, even if on accident, than that rule is going to apply to everything else mathematically.


Let's revisit The Little Mermaid's numbers now, shall we?


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The Little Mermaid [Walt Disney Pictures] (May 26th, 2023)
Production Budget: $250,000,000
source: https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Little-Mermaid-The-(2023)#tab=summar
y
Worldwide Opening Weekend: $164,000,000 (66% of Production Budget)
Current Worldwide Gross: $542,328,651 (217% of Production Budget)

Net Gain/Loss: +$42,328,651


The Little Mermaid cost $50 Million more to produce than Quantumania did. Not that I'm going to factor in any different marketing budget numbers specifically on any one movie because I said that wouldn't be fair and would likely be impossible to do anyhow, I'm just going to point out that everybody knows that TLM was marketed heavier than any other Disney movie this year too, with stunts like paying the Oscars $10 Million for an ill-received advertisement on stage... so nobody can try to protect this movie by saying that what it spent on Production Budget it saved on Marketing Budget.

Currently, or at least as of Sunday Night, TLM's theater take is only 217% that of the Production budget. A full 15% less than that of Quantumania's final box office take. And TLM has run out of steam, having grossed just barely over $1 Million per day last weekend, and just above $600k per week day.

TLM will NEVER reach 232% of the $250 Million Production Budget.


So if Quantumania is a loser by several tens of millions, TLM is a loser by SEVERAL MORE tens of millions for Disney in 2023.


I bet Variety didn't mean to admit to that one.

See how they singled out Quantumania, which is easy to do because even though its male lead role is beat out by all of the Mary Sue supporting cast surrounding him, they were all white people?

They'd NEVER dare say the same thing about black not-Ariel...

But the did just that, didn't they?

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And the only other list that matters:

Winners and losers from the previous list:

Winners:

1. M3GAN made 1,475% of its production budget of $12 Million. [FINAL]
2. Super Mario Bros Movie made 1,313% of its production budget of $100 Million.
3. Evil Dead Rise made 768% of its production budget of $19 Million.
4. Scream IV made 483% of its production budget of $35 Million. [FINAL]
5. Mummies made 442% of its production budget of $12 Million. [FINAL]
6. John Wick: Chapter 4 made 432% of its production budget of $100 Million.
7. The Pope's Exorcist made 405% of its production budget of $18 Million. [FINAL]
8. Creed III made 365% of its production budget of $75 Million. [FINAL]
9. Jesus Revolution made 353% of its production budget of $15 Million. [FINAL]
10. Guardians of the Galaxy: Vol. 3 made 314% of its production budget of $250 Million.
11. Knock at the Cabin made 275% of its production budget of $20 Million. [FINAL]
12. Cocaine Bear made 254% of its production budget of $35 Million. [FINAL]
13. Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse made 248% of its production budget of $100 Million.
14. Ant Man and the Wasp: Quantumania 232% of its production budget of $200 Million.

Losers* (The movies who didn't double their production budget to cover marketing budgets and theater takes):

1. Shazam: Fury of the Gods only made 106% of its production budget. [FINAL]
2. 65 only made 124% of its $45,000,000 production budget. [FINAL]
3. AIR only made 129% of its $70,000,000 production budget. [FINAL]
4. The Little Mermaid only made 137% of its $250,000,000 production budget.
5. Dungeons and Dragons: Honor Among Thieves only made 139% of its $150,000,000 production budget. [FINAL]
6. Fast X only made 186% of its $340,000,000 production budget.

*As of right now, Shazam, AIR, D&D and 65 are the guaranteed losers in 2023 because they are out of the box office and will not make money back for their investors. The Little Mermaid and Fast X are in trouble because of their production costs.

ALSO OF NOTE: If you reference the first list above, Cocaine Bear is the ONLY movie so far in 2023 that didn't gross at least 100% of its production budget on its opening weekend that did not end up at least doubling it by the time it is out of theaters. The rest of the movies that didn't do so are on the Losers list directly above.


The lesson for Disney, besides firing all the woke staff, is to learn that its GUARANTEED BILLION DOLLAR MOVIE days are over. M3GAN only had a $12 Million budget and will likely end up being the 2nd most profitable movie of 2023 for its investors when Super Mario's theater run is over.

They've got to stop spending over $200 Million on every movie they make unless they want to start making things that people want to see again.


It's one thing to look at The Little Mermaid as a huge win by saying it's 8th place Domestic and 13th place Worldwide for 2023 after its first weekend (now 4th place and 8th place, respectively), but when a movie only makes 65% of its production budget worldwide on its first weekend its doomed to lose money in the end after real world accounting is factored in. If the movie had cost $100 Million to make, it would have already been a winner.

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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.
Sound of Freedom will cross $56M today.
Where does it fit on your 2 lists?
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