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The Last Jedi Discussion
Sunday, December 24, 2017 2:51 AM
SHINYGOODGUY
Sunday, December 24, 2017 3:06 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: This discussion thread is for those who have seen The Last Jedi and want to comment on the movie. SPOILERS ................. Please only proceed if you have seen it. Spoilers!!!!!!!! SGG
Sunday, December 24, 2017 5:08 AM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: There is much to love in this movie, but, at the same time, much to hate and still more to say WTF? I did not like the Luke storyline. It felt awkward and completely wrong. Luke looking to kill his nephew? Where's that get fun? It seemed out of character for him. Now I know why Hamill disagreed with Johnson. I could see Luke not wanting to train any other Jedis, but looking to kill....it's just not in his nature. That could have been handled differently. The self doubt was good, but he did not behave like a Jedi. General Hux - the actor was way over the top and acted like a buffoon. I was not impressed. Rose acted too much like a fan girl, and the love interest part was forced somewhat. She was just okay. Boyega as Finn, perfect yet again, but he was somewhat wasted, as was Gwendoline Christie as Captain Phasma. An actress of her talents needs to have more to do than pose in a costume. Oscar Isaac as Poe was excellent as well. More to come later............ It SGG
Sunday, December 24, 2017 6:26 AM
Wednesday, December 27, 2017 5:09 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: I have an idea. Let's recount the scenes from The Last Jedi which were worthwhile. It should be a short list, compared to the others. These would be scenes which, without regard to the story arc, would fit in, mesh with what we saw in Episodes IV - VI. If your assertion is challenged, be prepared to offer examples. Off the top of my head: General/Admiral Holdo saves the day. Rose saves Finn. Luke at the Cave Showdown, vs. Kylo. Rey opening the backdoor of the Cave. Paige Tico releasing the ordinance. Beebee droid spewing coins as an offensive weapon. Gen Hux thinking the loss of Supreme Ruler means he is in charge, then being reminded where the Power resides - perhaps the best scene for this character. Rose zapping Finn, trying to use an escape pod. Replaying the R2D2 Hologram message from Princess Leia to Obi-wan. Luke on Millennium Falcon, and with Chewbacca. Rose figuring out how the active crack ng works, when nobody else bothers. Millennium Falcon flying shots. Who else can think of others?
Wednesday, December 27, 2017 12:33 PM
Wednesday, December 27, 2017 2:04 PM
ANONYMOUSE
Thursday, December 28, 2017 3:35 AM
Quote:The best WTF?! moment has to be Rey handing Luke his lightsabre - only to see him toss it away!
Quote:I loved BB-8 in TFA and even more in TLJ - such personality! He's every bit as clever and handy as Artoo ever was, a worthy successor.
Quote:But I am not convinced Ren told Rey the truth about her parents; I think at least one had to be a Force-sensitive. Would the idea that she's Luke's daughter be too obvious?
Quote:Originally posted by Anonymouse: The best WTF?! moment has to be Rey handing Luke his lightsabre - only to see him toss it away! I loved BB-8 in TFA and even more in TLJ - such personality! He's every bit as clever and handy as Artoo ever was, a worthy successor. But I am not convinced Ren told Rey the truth about her parents; I think at least one had to be a Force-sensitive. Would the idea that she's Luke's daughter be too obvious? How the hell did Ren conceal his intent of betraying his master from Snoke? That was straight out of the book of the Sith - hard to believe Snoke could be taken down so easily. Didn't see that coming...nor did Snoke, apparently...! And I still want to know who Snoke was, and why Darth Sidious never sensed him - and how did Maz acquire Luke's lightsabre?!
Thursday, December 28, 2017 9:57 AM
Friday, December 29, 2017 4:37 AM
Quote:The toss itself seems flippant, petulant, disrespectful of The Force. Not qualities I had associated with Jedi.
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: I have an idea. Let's recount the scenes from The Last Jedi which were worthwhile. It should be a short list, compared to the others. These would be scenes which, without regard to the story arc, would fit in, mesh with what we saw in Episodes IV - VI. If your assertion is challenged, be prepared to offer examples. Off the top of my head: General/Admiral Holdo saves the day. Rose saves Finn. Luke at the Cave Showdown, vs. Kylo. Rey opening the backdoor of the Cave. Paige Tico releasing the ordinance. Beebee droid spewing coins as an offensive weapon. Gen Hux thinking the loss of Supreme Ruler means he is in charge, then being reminded where the Power resides - perhaps the best scene for this character. Rose zapping Finn, trying to use an escape pod. Replaying the R2D2 Hologram message from Princess Leia to Obi-wan. Luke on Millennium Falcon, and with Chewbacca. Rose figuring out how the active crack ng works, when nobody else bothers. Millennium Falcon flying shots. Who else can think of others?Yes, another worthwhile scene is Rey climbing up and down an Island mountain to put a light saber in her hand. For comedy! Imagine that! A Jedi refusing to use The Force to draw a light saber to them! IIRC, she had as already drawn this one during her duel with Kylo, from some distance. Perhaps Luke was using his Mastery of The Force to hold the lightsaber down to that spot, just to force Rey to climb all about to get to it. These Jedi kids are a gag-a-minute, I tell ya. The toss itself seems flippant, petulant, disrespectful of The Force. Not qualities I had associated with Jedi.
Friday, December 29, 2017 9:44 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: I have an idea. Let's recount the scenes from The Last Jedi which were worthwhile. It should be a short list, compared to the others. These would be scenes which, without regard to the story arc, would fit in, mesh with what we saw in Episodes IV - VI. If your assertion is challenged, be prepared to offer examples. Off the top of my head: General/Admiral Holdo saves the day. Rose saves Finn. Luke at the Cave Showdown, vs. Kylo. Rey opening the backdoor of the Cave. Paige Tico releasing the ordinance. Beebee droid spewing coins as an offensive weapon. Gen Hux thinking the loss of Supreme Ruler means he is in charge, then being reminded where the Power resides - perhaps the best scene for this character. Rose zapping Finn, trying to use an escape pod. Replaying the R2D2 Hologram message from Princess Leia to Obi-wan. Luke on Millennium Falcon, and with Chewbacca. Rose figuring out how the active crack ng works, when nobody else bothers. Millennium Falcon flying shots. Who else can think of others?Yes, another worthwhile scene is Rey climbing up and down an Island mountain to put a light saber in her hand. For comedy! Imagine that! A Jedi refusing to use The Force to draw a light saber to them! IIRC, she had as already drawn this one during her duel with Kylo, from some distance. Perhaps Luke was using his Mastery of The Force to hold the lightsaber down to that spot, just to force Rey to climb all about to get to it. These Jedi kids are a gag-a-minute, I tell ya. The toss itself seems flippant, petulant, disrespectful of The Force. Not qualities I had associated with Jedi.Quote:The toss itself seems flippant, petulant, disrespectful of The Force. Not qualities I had associated with Jedi.Totally out of character for a Jedi, and for Luke. Many have said that it was a "fuck you" to JJ Abrams, but, more importantly, a "fuck you" to the fan base. This is a part of the Jedi lore, and those millions of fans who cosplay and the kids who ask mommy and daddy "Can I please have a lightsaber like Luke Skywalker." To me it was a total slap in the face as a fan, so I could imagine those who truly delve into the movie magic of becoming a Jedi in real life. People take their Star Wars seriously. Like it or not, Mark Hamill and the original Star Wars cast, are like gods to these people. Disney shouldn't fuck with the fan base, billions are at stake. Skywalker is not just an iconic hero in cinema history. To the millions of fans he is REAL! SGG
Friday, December 29, 2017 11:30 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: I have an idea. Let's recount the scenes from The Last Jedi which were worthwhile. It should be a short list, compared to the others. These would be scenes which, without regard to the story arc, would fit in, mesh with what we saw in Episodes IV - VI. GIf your assertion is challenged, be prepared to offer examples. Off the top of my head: General/Admiral Holdo saves the day. Rose saves Finn. Luke at the Cave Showdown, vs. Kylo. Rey opening the backdoor of the Cave. Paige Tico releasing the ordinance. Beebee droid spewing coins as an offensive weapon. Gen Hux thinking the loss of Supreme Ruler means he is in charge, then being reminded where the Power resides - perhaps the best scene for this character. Rose zapping Finn, trying to use an escape pod. Replaying the R2D2 Hologram message from Princess Leia to Obi-wan. Luke on Millennium Falcon, and with Chewbacca. Rose figuring out how the active crack ng works, when nobody else bothers. Millennium Falcon flying shots. Who else can think of others?Yes, another worthwhile scene is Rey climbing up and down an Island mountain to put a light saber in her hand. For comedy! Imagine that! A Jedi refusing to use The Force to draw a light saber to them! IIRC, she had as already drawn this one during her duel with Kylo, from some distance, in TFA. Perhaps Luke was using his Mastery of The Force to hold the lightsaber down to that spot, just to force Rey to climb all about to get to it. These Jedi kids are a gag-a-minute, I tell ya. The toss itself seems flippant, petulant, disrespectful of The Force. Not qualities I had associated with Jedi. Quote:The toss itself seems flippant, petulant, disrespectful of The Force. Not qualities I had associated with Jedi.Totally out of character for a Jedi, and for Luke. Many have said that it was a "fuck you" to JJ Abrams, but, more importantly, a "fuck you" to the fan base. This is a part of the Jedi lore, and those millions of fans who cosplay and the kids who ask mommy and daddy "Can I please have a lightsaber like Luke Skywalker." To me it was a total slap in the face as a fan, so I could imagine those who truly delve into the movie magic of becoming a Jedi in real life. People take their Star Wars seriously. Like it or not, Mark Hamill and the original Star Wars cast, are like gods to these people. Disney shouldn't fuck with the fan base, billions are at stake. Skywalker is not just an iconic hero in cinema history. To the millions of fans he is REAL! SGG
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: I have an idea. Let's recount the scenes from The Last Jedi which were worthwhile. It should be a short list, compared to the others. These would be scenes which, without regard to the story arc, would fit in, mesh with what we saw in Episodes IV - VI. GIf your assertion is challenged, be prepared to offer examples. Off the top of my head: General/Admiral Holdo saves the day. Rose saves Finn. Luke at the Cave Showdown, vs. Kylo. Rey opening the backdoor of the Cave. Paige Tico releasing the ordinance. Beebee droid spewing coins as an offensive weapon. Gen Hux thinking the loss of Supreme Ruler means he is in charge, then being reminded where the Power resides - perhaps the best scene for this character. Rose zapping Finn, trying to use an escape pod. Replaying the R2D2 Hologram message from Princess Leia to Obi-wan. Luke on Millennium Falcon, and with Chewbacca. Rose figuring out how the active crack ng works, when nobody else bothers. Millennium Falcon flying shots. Who else can think of others?Yes, another worthwhile scene is Rey climbing up and down an Island mountain to put a light saber in her hand. For comedy! Imagine that! A Jedi refusing to use The Force to draw a light saber to them! IIRC, she had as already drawn this one during her duel with Kylo, from some distance, in TFA. Perhaps Luke was using his Mastery of The Force to hold the lightsaber down to that spot, just to force Rey to climb all about to get to it. These Jedi kids are a gag-a-minute, I tell ya. The toss itself seems flippant, petulant, disrespectful of The Force. Not qualities I had associated with Jedi.
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: I have an idea. Let's recount the scenes from The Last Jedi which were worthwhile. It should be a short list, compared to the others. These would be scenes which, without regard to the story arc, would fit in, mesh with what we saw in Episodes IV - VI. GIf your assertion is challenged, be prepared to offer examples. Off the top of my head: General/Admiral Holdo saves the day. Rose saves Finn. Luke at the Cave Showdown, vs. Kylo. Rey opening the backdoor of the Cave. Paige Tico releasing the ordinance. Beebee droid spewing coins as an offensive weapon. Gen Hux thinking the loss of Supreme Ruler means he is in charge, then being reminded where the Power resides - perhaps the best scene for this character. Rose zapping Finn, trying to use an escape pod. Replaying the R2D2 Hologram message from Princess Leia to Obi-wan. Luke on Millennium Falcon, and with Chewbacca. Rose figuring out how the active crack ng works, when nobody else bothers. Millennium Falcon flying shots. Who else can think of others?
Tuesday, January 2, 2018 11:10 AM
ZEEK
Tuesday, January 2, 2018 12:18 PM
MOOSE
Quote:It took me a while to decide why I had such a problem with The Last Jedi. I think it's mostly because it seemed like they were playing with someone else's toys and they were breaking them with disregard.
Wednesday, January 3, 2018 9:18 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Moose: Quote:It took me a while to decide why I had such a problem with The Last Jedi. I think it's mostly because it seemed like they were playing with someone else's toys and they were breaking them with disregard. That is the perfect way of saying it.
Thursday, January 11, 2018 11:29 AM
Friday, January 12, 2018 12:37 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Friday, January 12, 2018 12:51 PM
Friday, January 12, 2018 5:55 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: The Last Jedi is a tragedy www.vox.com/culture/2018/1/12/16834684/the-last-jedi-lost-its-nerve Director Rian Johnson didn’t go far enough. He feints and flirts with deeper, darker themes, but loses his nerve before the tone and trajectory of the saga are seriously threatened. Johnson has a great sense of style and visual flair, so it’s easy to get caught up in the adventure. But a dispassionate examination of events as they unfold in the film reveals that, at its heart, The Last Jedi is a bleak and unremitting tragedy. Johnson just never quite musters the courage to let the audience feel it. Here are just a few of the depressing developments that befall General Leia’s Resistance: 1) Poe defies a direct order and gets the entire Resistance bombing fleet, half its fighter pilots, and the bulk of its military leadership wiped out. (We’ll talk more about Poe later. That f’ing guy.) 2) Finn and Rose rush off to disable the First Order tracker but fail because they are jailed for a parking violation, though they did free those horse things. 3) The last-ditch plan to save the Resistance by launching transports to an abandoned base is leaked by Poe, the leak is heard by Finn and Rose’s criminal companion, who saves himself from execution alongside Finn and Rose by leaking to the First Order about the “cloaking” of the rebel transports, leading to hundreds of deaths among the remaining Rebels. 4) The Resistance’s desperate call for help is ignored across the galaxy and a handful of Rebels barely escape through Luke sacrificing his life. The End. I mean, that is some awful, awful stuff. Like I said: a tragedy. But ... does it feel like that? Take the Finn-and-Rose casino storyline. Many people have criticized it for being a waste of time that had no effect on the larger plot. Technically, though, it had an enormous plot consequence: It tipped off the First Order to the existence of the transports and led to their wholesale destruction. It triggered the final blow that wiped out the Resistance. It was, in retrospect, a horrific and fateful miscalculation on every level. It feels inessential, though, because it’s not played as a mistake or a tragedy. It’s played as a madcap romp. Even afterward, Finn and Rose do not seem particularly troubled that they played a direct role in the death of thousands of their fellow Rebels. The Director Johnson never slows down and lets it sink in. Literally nothing the Rebels try, right up to the doomed ground attack on Crait, works. It all fails. Almost everyone is killed. But there is little sense of consequence, no tears, no crippling grief for the failure. The events of the story only make sense as tragedy. Admittedly, if Johnson had the audience feeling the tragedy then the movie’s box office haul would have suffered. Disney would have been unhappy. He probably would have joined Colin Trevorrow on the list of fired Star Wars directors. Speaking of decisions and consequences, let’s talk about Poe. The guy is a 360-degree disaster — and more than that, a repudiation of one of the central archetypes of the Star Wars universe — precisely because he is impulsive, short-sighted, hot-headed, and possessed of a confidence that wildly outstrips his knowledge or judgment. Again and again, women try to set him straight, but he ignores or defies them. And he is not alone. Luke, Kylo, Finn — at one point or another, every major male character disregards the pleas of his far more sensible female counterpart, to disastrous effect. For a while, it seems that Johnson is determined to teach fanboys the scariest lesson of all: That they should listen to women. But again, he stops short. Carl von Clausewitz argued in his famous On War that, in war, political objectives must always guide and transcend tactical or strategic objectives — and that field commanders are prone to neglecting this truth, driving for tactical advantage at any cost. That’s essentially what Poe does, by shooting at anything he doesn’t like. He can’t see past his next move. And so, between defying orders, mutinying, and leaking highly sensitive information, he almost single-handedly gets the entire Resistance wiped out. He’s the devil-may-care Han Solo type, but more like the real-world version, i.e., a volatile f*ckup rather than a natural leader. (The women, Leia and Holdo, are the natural leaders, calm and focused.) But Johnson can’t quite bear to let Poe face the consequences. After he repeatedly threatens the entire Resistance effort, only to finally be knocked out and restrained, we see Holdo and Leia ... regarding Poe fondly? Discussing how much they like him? Please. The film even toys with letting go of the neat division of good and evil, light and dark, by threatening to complicate and blur the moral binary that typically governs not only Star Wars but mass-market action-adventure movies everywhere. But then . . . more at www.vox.com/culture/2018/1/12/16834684/the-last-jedi-lost-its-nerve
Friday, January 12, 2018 6:34 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Went to see a Star Wars epic, forced to suffer a Disney TragicComedy. I continue to plea: for those who have not seen Rogue One, be sure to watch it before forsaking the entire franchise.
Friday, January 12, 2018 9:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Went to see a Star Wars epic, forced to suffer a Disney TragicComedy. I continue to plea: for those who have not seen Rogue One, be sure to watch it before forsaking the entire franchise.But the ending for Rogue One was rewritten to make it more tragic, less comic. In the first script version, too many people survived and it ended too happy. Then Disney brings in another writer (for $5,000,000) and he begins slaughtering characters for the hell of it. Spoiler, spoiler: Wash dies in this movie, too. www.theverge.com/2017/1/15/14268850/star-wars-rogue-one-reshoots-disney-gareth-edwards-tony-gilroy
Saturday, January 20, 2018 9:55 AM
Sunday, January 21, 2018 10:55 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Tuesday, January 23, 2018 3:44 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Does anybody have a viable explanation for how/why vessels in a Space Fleet are commanded by either Admirals or Generals?
Tuesday, January 23, 2018 8:43 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: We're talking about a galaxy far, far away.............. SGG Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Does anybody have a viable explanation for how/why vessels in a Space Fleet are commanded by either Admirals or Generals?
Tuesday, January 23, 2018 10:19 AM
Tuesday, January 23, 2018 11:58 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: lol... when you put it that way, that does seem pretty silly. The movie was written and directed by douche turds who have been quoted as saying that the Empire is an allegory for the white male patriarchy in America. It's not surprising that nobody on staff was actually in the military. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Wednesday, January 24, 2018 5:51 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Walt Disney must be rolling in his grave.
Wednesday, January 24, 2018 7:02 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: We're talking about a galaxy far, far away.............. SGG Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Does anybody have a viable explanation for how/why vessels in a Space Fleet are commanded by either Admirals or Generals?Sure, but the ranks mentioned were not Goomitch, Doojobber, Third Kludge, or Vice Preezy. Generals command land forces and land-based forces, including amphibious forces (like Marines). Admirals command non-land-based vessels and forces. Like the Navy. And in copies of Star Trek, space fleets. In TLJ, one scene shows a General commanding, the next is an Admiral.
Wednesday, January 24, 2018 12:37 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: We can hardly blame Johnson for thinking outside the box. One of the biggest complaints fans had about JJ Abrams’ The Force Awakens was that it borrowed too many tired tropes from the original trilogy. Now, one of the biggest complaints fans have about that movie’s sequel is that it used ideas they had never heard of. Disney and Lucasfilm cannot win: Star Wars is such a beloved franchise that any film-maker is likely eventually to upset fans.
Wednesday, January 24, 2018 8:00 PM
Wednesday, January 24, 2018 9:09 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I don't know how many of you have ever played a game by Ron Gilbert called Maniac Mansion before, but . . .
Wednesday, January 24, 2018 11:01 PM
Thursday, January 25, 2018 11:39 AM
Thursday, January 25, 2018 12:25 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Zeek: So, I thought of another example of an issue with The Last Jedi that might clarify why you have to earn changes in characters. In The Force Awakens Han and Chewie were pretty much the exact same characters they were when we last saw them in Return of the Jedi. I didn't hear any complaints about their characters. Plot maybe but not the characters. Now if they wanted to be edgy they could have made Han and Chewie hate each other and literally try to kill each other in The Force Awakens. Wow shocking, right? Sure, but if the only explanation for why they're acting that way is "time passed. people change." I really doubt it would go over well. When established characters change it needs to be earned with reasonable explanation. Not just a shrug.
Friday, January 26, 2018 2:13 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Zeek: Quote:Originally posted by second: We can hardly blame Johnson for thinking outside the box. One of the biggest complaints fans had about JJ Abrams’ The Force Awakens was that it borrowed too many tired tropes from the original trilogy. Now, one of the biggest complaints fans have about that movie’s sequel is that it used ideas they had never heard of. Disney and Lucasfilm cannot win: Star Wars is such a beloved franchise that any film-maker is likely eventually to upset fans. I think that's just a bit too much of a paraphrase of the criticism. I've never heard anyone complain that the ideas in the film were new. It was that the ideas didn't fit. Luke Skywalker's change didn't seem plausible given his character, and they just told us it happened rather than show us reasons and earn the change. A lot of the Star Wars world was changed in ways that didn't make sense. For instance: Ship shield technology apparently changed over night, Ships now have fuel reserves which has never come up before and begs the question why the Empire came up with a complicated plan to disable the Falcon's hyperdrive on cloud city rather than just drain their fuel, The opening crawl of the movie claims the new order "reigns" when the force awakens claims they were a rising power on the fringe of the galaxy...exactly how do they reign when no time passed between films? There's a lot of stuff in the movie that just doesn't stand up to the slightest bit of questioning. For a lot of people that killed the suspension of disbelief and instead of being an immersive movie it was jarring and disappointing.
Friday, January 26, 2018 2:31 AM
Friday, January 26, 2018 8:42 PM
Friday, January 26, 2018 11:10 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I'd never even heard the points that Zeek had brought up about TLJ, and of course I still haven't seen it for myself. Everything he's saying sounds very reasonable though. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Monday, April 16, 2018 6:10 PM
WHOZIT
Tuesday, April 17, 2018 7:57 AM
Tuesday, April 17, 2018 4:31 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Yeah... I don't think that putting a multi-billion dollar franchise in the hands of SJW's was a good gamble in the long run. Marvel might be trying that and failing miserable in its comic books today, but it can afford to because it's making bank with the movies that aren't run entirely by SJWs. Although, I don't think that they should take for granted these movies will always be as popular as they are today and just completely burn their entire comic book line until the comic book fans just completely turn their back on the company. It's an interesting experiment that Disney is pulling here, and only a company as large as Disney could afford to do it. I wonder if the "nerds" boycotting would do any real damage though. It's certainly got to be hitting Disney in the wallet that nobody is buying the Star Wars toys this time around, but even with the decline in ticket sales since The Force Awakens they're still making decent money in the theaters. Maybe TJD was the straw... Do Right, Be Right. :)
Tuesday, April 17, 2018 5:56 PM
Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:14 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Hey there Mr. Acronymbot, what is TJD?
Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by whozit: There are vids of people paying $1 for action figures
Saturday, April 21, 2018 10:51 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by whozit: There are vids of people paying $1 for action figures I know. It's crazy. Go to a dollar store and look at the abysmal quality of the action figures you can buy there, in comparison. I don't know if it can be blamed entirely on Star Wars and Disney. The economy really sucks right now and I'm sure a lot of parents just don't have the money to be paying full price for a bunch of licensed toys these days. I don't have any kids of my own, and my niece is still too young to be into Star Wars or any action figure type stuff yet. But I wonder if the kids really want the Star Wars toys at all anyhow. I can remember me and my brothers pleading with our Dad to take us to Toys R Us to get some Star Wars figures, and by that time Return of the Jedi was already 3 or 4 years old. We only knew about the movies because we recorded them on VHS when they were running them on HBO several years later and we watched them so often we wore the tapes out. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, April 22, 2018 7:35 AM
Quote:Originally posted by whozit: UPDATE: (if anyone cares) I went to my local Walmart and found no STAR WARS action figures, NONE! But there were plenty of AVENGERS action figures going for around $12. I was a little surprised how little STAR WARS stuff they had in the toy department.
Sunday, April 22, 2018 9:20 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by whozit: UPDATE: (if anyone cares) I went to my local Walmart and found no STAR WARS action figures, NONE! But there were plenty of AVENGERS action figures going for around $12. I was a little surprised how little STAR WARS stuff they had in the toy department. Interesting. Were the signs on the empty spots marked down? I did just see a video recently where a guy was at WalMart buying toys that were released only 4 days prior and were already clearanced 75% down to 5 bucks a piece. He even bought a bunch of them at that price. I wonder how much of this is because of the movies not being that great, and how much of it is that "collectors" just aren't interested anymore because they know that these things won't be worth any money in the long run. Check this out: https://www.ebay.com/itm/90s-STAR-WARS-Figure-lot-of-4-SEALED-Hasbro-Kenner-Power-of-the-Force/292516590289?hash=item441b58f2d1:g:KXgAAOSwPHZaysDN Han Solo, Luke Skywalker, Chewbacca and whatever that 4th one is. 90's Kenner line. Sealed in boxes that look like they're in great shape. $15.00 buy it now. Free shipping. Almost 20 years after they originally came out, in what looks to be near mint condition, and somebody is willing to package and ship them to your door for free and end up getting about $2.50 a piece after they pay for shipping. I never bought any of them at the time, but I'd imagine that has to be a loss of at least $5.00 a piece from the original price if they paid full price for them back in the day. I think maybe people are just not stupid anymore, at least about "collectables". It's all mass produced junk that's never going to be worth anything. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, April 22, 2018 2:27 PM
Quote:Originally posted by whozit: There was a STAR WARS sign in the action figures isle, but that section was now filled with dinosaur figures. I don't know if they sold out our got rid of them because they weren't selling. Also, the new SOLO toys were released April 13, they didn't have any.
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