FIREFLY AND SERENITY GUERILLA MARKETING

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Sunday, August 10, 2008 12:38 AM

MONTYSSOUPCATCHER


I like many many more of you here on this board and across other sites still know that Firefly is the single greatest tv show that we have had the privalage of watching. Firefly deserves to be put back on our screens where it belongs and not just a re-run but a new season. So is there anything more we can do to push this into the front of tv companys minds. If fox dont want to do it surely there is another company out there who would be willing to take this on. Maybe a co-ordinated letter/e-mail campaign to the tv companys. If some of the fan sites out there on the web got together we could organise something like that. Any other ideas anyone?


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Sunday, August 10, 2008 12:45 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


I say we send Blue gloves to Universal. I remember reading an article about how Jericho was risen from the dead by the fans. They sent thousands of peanuts to the network (apparently there was an episode involving peanuts).

Anywho, I'm for doing something similar. that would definitely send a message.

Shiny! Let's be bad guys!

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Sunday, August 10, 2008 12:46 AM

MONTYSSOUPCATCHER


Thats a good idea and with the gloves a little card reading "you cant stop the signal"

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Sunday, August 10, 2008 3:12 PM

BROWNCOAT1300


I love the gloves and "cant stop the signal idea"
Keep in touch cause if we can get this going I am all for it!

SHINY

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Sunday, August 10, 2008 3:42 PM

RALLEM


So if someone found a place where people could by blue gloves or something else from Firefly to Fox to inundate them with this item then it is possible they will revive Firefly? What if the cast doesn't want to do it anymore? If a plausible game plan can be thunk up I would be glad to participate in it.



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Monday, August 11, 2008 2:30 AM

BROWNCOAT1300


You of course bring up a good point, the cast may not be interested any longer.
still...I think it is a good idea and from what I have heard of the cast they would be honored by the act so I say lets go for it.
and mechanics gloves and some medical gloves come in blue...just give me the word.

SHINY

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Monday, August 11, 2008 2:50 AM

MONTYSSOUPCATCHER


Well we can only try, no harm in it.

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Monday, August 11, 2008 2:08 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


I think medical gloves, like the Blue Hands guys.
I did some research on the net and found blue gloves for $4.99 per 100, which comes out to about a nickel per glove. But I believe it must be bought in quantity.

I'll take a look elsewhere to see if they sell them individually. For this to work it must be mailed from every Browncoat all over the world, not just here in the states. A little card with "Can't Stop the Signal" included in the mailing is definitely a nice touch.

Two by Two, Hands of Blue.

I aim to misbehave!

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Monday, August 11, 2008 2:12 PM

CRAYONS


Could you get one specific company from which you ordered the gloves to sell and deliver them? Like what Jericho did with the peanuts?

(I'm really new here, so I apologize if my idea was stupid)

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Monday, August 11, 2008 2:34 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Try Harbor Freight - tons of really cheap tools and such, but they usually have Nitrile Latex gloves, too - and I think I remember seeing blue ones!

Mike

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Monday, August 11, 2008 2:36 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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Monday, August 11, 2008 2:38 PM

RALLEM


yes,I at work noticed that our housekeepers have glovesjust like the hands of blue and those linked to above. I will ask for a couple of them.



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Monday, August 11, 2008 2:45 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


Hey you guys,

We're going to need an address to send it to.
Actually, we will need a plan of attack.

You know a particular day or week we should all send our little message.

I aim to misbehave!

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Monday, August 11, 2008 3:44 PM

FONGLUH


This is EXACTLY the type of thing I've wanted to get involved in. We need an address, and a date set.

I'm in.

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Monday, August 11, 2008 3:53 PM

MIIKE


I propose we stay on course and keep converting people to the cause ,we neeed to take examples from modern religions, like scientology on how they convert masses of people to their cause. Then use these methods for good and get a second series..................Church of the Browncoats ...........p.s I personally am atheist and dont mean to insult anyones beliefs, I just think some kind of orgsniseation could help ,but then again we are Browncoats and takin orders aint really our thing....all the best miike

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Monday, August 11, 2008 8:00 PM

SOMAHOLIDAY


Hey, I'm new to the site and i'm definitely down for exactly this type of effort... I'd love to see another season. However, y'all do realize the number of people we'd have to get to participate for this to work, right? This thread has been read less than 200 times... What we really need is some type of system to coordinate and recruit large numbers of people... A facebook group would be a good start (if there aren't a bunch already) but its gonna take alot more than that. Any ideas?

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Monday, August 11, 2008 9:05 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


This movement has to be a grassroots thing -

1- we must contact all browncoats; that means everyone who's ever seen an episode, browncoat chapters, etc. By calling, e-mail, even carrier pigeon our friends, family, exes, anyone who has an address and a stamp.

2- mobilizing the press; underground as well as mainstream (that means press releases about our concerted effort to get the Alliance's attention)
(Petitions are so yesterday and ineffective)

3- Buying the blue gloves is the least of it - we need people. I'll buy the first case if I can get them to folks out there in our 'verse to distribute them, and once we get an address to send it to the rest should be easy-peasy.

Hey somaholiday, welcome aboard, good idea you have about the facebook group. That's what we need, however simple it may sound just throw them out there and see what sticks. We browncoats from each state to organize wihtin the state and report back here.

I have an idea about a date: I suggest the mail date for the Blue Glove Assault to take place on September 20th, the aniversary date of the TV series.

We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty!

To quote from another Sci-Fi phenomenom:
"You either do or do not, there is no try."

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Tuesday, August 12, 2008 1:57 AM

BROWNCOAT1300


I would be more than happy to be a frontrunner in this project.
The way I see it, it surely cant hurt and it will be kind of fun.
As for a result coming of this...who knows.
Anyone interested in being a part of this and or helping me organize this can contact me at mthaigh@yahoo.com.

let be bad guys.

SHINY

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Tuesday, August 12, 2008 2:26 AM

MONTYSSOUPCATCHER


We could do with posting some sort of message on other firefly fans forums and get them involved. The idea for doing it on the anniversary of the start of the tv series is a good one i like it.

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Tuesday, August 12, 2008 4:09 AM

FONGLUH


I just posted a thread at the Sci-Fi channel's FireFly forum about our efforts here: http://forums.scifi.com/index.php?showtopic=2313562

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Tuesday, August 12, 2008 4:18 AM

MONTYSSOUPCATCHER


Nice one i will have a gander round the web for other sites and see if i can post on there

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Tuesday, August 12, 2008 7:19 AM

MONTYSSOUPCATCHER


Im from England so im not to up on American magazines and things but what about taking out an advert in a magazine in the states. or maybe even make a news letter of our own and send that to fox/universal, we could outline how we feel regarding firefly and its demise. Run that along side the blue gloves idea. Just brain storming and chucking ideas out.

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Tuesday, August 12, 2008 7:38 AM

MONTYSSOUPCATCHER


Made a post on the uk browncoats site regarding this so see what happens with them now.

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Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:47 AM

SOMAHOLIDAY


ok a few more things. First off, i checked around facebook, and there are a bunch of different firefly groups, but the main one seems to be a group called "bring firefly back." It has over 5000 members. We should most definitely pitch the blue glove idea on there... if we could get even a third of those people to help, that'd be a great start. Second, and this is an idea for later (if and when we actually get this ball rolling) a bunch of people (especially according to a poll on this site) have said that they'd contribute 1, 10, or even 100 dollars to get the show started again... if everyone who read this thread put in 10 dollars, thats almost 2000 dollars... if half the people in the firefly facebook group put in 10 dollars, thats 25000 dollars... you see where i'm headed? We could do some real damage with that kinda money, so this is an idea for phase 2 of the plan, if the blue glove thing doesn't work. That's all i got for now.

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Tuesday, August 12, 2008 12:11 PM

STAPLES


I've seen SOOO many of these ideas before, and I've always wanted to be a part of them - but I've found that for them to work in any way, they have to have a centralized power - a person or group of people, pulling the strings, spending the time, and organizing until their brains explode...and even then they usually still don't get off the ground. I am always willing to pitch in my time and my effort, but I'd need to see some real power, enthusiasm, and ORGANIZATION behind it before I'd throw my chips in. The last great effort was on the UniHD forums, and before that it was the Qmx wavecards campaign. I pitched in with those, but even with all the people behind them, there still wasn't enough organization to get enough people to make a difference. I know we've got the numbers, but I have friends who love this show as much as me who don't even go on the forums - so that's the kicker right there. We need to get EVERYONE - not just the forum surfers, or the facebook people, but EVERYONE. e-mails, letters, postcards, hell, I like the carrier pigeon idea. So as soon as someone takes the reigns and spreads the word to thems need it told, count me in - until then, I'll be waiting.

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Tuesday, August 12, 2008 7:41 PM

SOMAHOLIDAY


yeah, that's exactly what i was trying to say with my first post... so basically, we need some people to step up and be ready to put countless hours in for this to work. I'll definitely chip in, but unfortunately, i've got too much goin on to volunteer for somethin like that

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Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:00 PM

ANGELIC


I would be willing to help. This sounds like a great idea. I think the hardest part would be getting the word out. I would be willing to make a couple of graphics people could use (signatures, etc) with the cause and date on them to spread the word. Maybe we could make a website? I would be willing to, but someone else could make something better than I could. Let's do this!

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Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:38 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


Staples is right. For the last few hours I was websurfing and googling Save Jericho. I came upon their fansite and they seem to be very well organized and focused (at least when they first saved their show).

I got the idea about the gloves from their campaign to save their show. As part of an overall attack on the network (CBS) the had their fans send peanuts to the execs at CBS in both LA and NY. They also conducted a letter writing and e-mail campaign. They also sent post cards and made phone calls. All in the effort to save the show.

As I researched and read I realized more and more that it takes a great deal of discipline and unflagging passion to mount such an effort.

I'm in.
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We need to get EVERYONE - not just the forum surfers, or the facebook people, but EVERYONE. e-mails, letters, postcards, hell, I like the carrier pigeon idea.
_______________________________________________

Shiny! Let's be bad guys!

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Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:55 PM

OUT2THEBLACK


Quote:

Originally posted by Shinygoodguy:


As I researched and read I realized more and more that it takes a great deal of discipline and unflagging passion to mount such an effort.




Will there be 'Companions' ?

Since you mentioned the notion of 'discipline' , and the requirement for 'unflagging passion' , plus the 'mounting' involved in this effort ; might be a good idea to provide some refreshments , and a buffet for questioning , too...

" Boy's got stamina..."

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Wednesday, August 13, 2008 2:35 AM

MONTYSSOUPCATCHER


I think we should start off with an e-mail first off, maybe including the poll stats from this link http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=2&t=34497 , also if we can find out how the dvd sales have gone of both the series and the movie and include this in the e-mail. Maybe if we collect as much data like this, post it in this thread and send e-mails using this data and expressing our opinions on Firefly then this would be a good starting point. Later on thats when the Gloves idea can come into play. What do you think?

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Wednesday, August 13, 2008 3:21 AM

FONGLUH


That's not a bad idea. The trick, of course, is getting the email to the right people. Though I'm not sure how you'd find out the sales records for FireFly and Serenity.

Angelic made a good point. This project should have its own website if we're going to be more organized about this. I know of a good free website provider ( http://atspace.com ), and I am also a graphic designer. I could easily set up a site for us, as well as forums.

Any thoughts?

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Wednesday, August 13, 2008 3:55 AM

MASTERCPO117


Hi everyone, long time lurker first time poster

I have to agree that new website might be the best course of action, nothing fancy, just a location specifically devoted to this movement, where all the info and ideas are located. Right now this whole plan is spread out over a bunch of threads on a bunch of sites, so not very many people are even going to see it. If we make a site that has all the info (where to get gloves, where to send them etc) in one spot then it makes things much easier. It could also be a place for a centralized discussion, instead of starting a thread on every fan site, we could just tell people to check out the forums on our site. Once the site is set up we could pitch the idea to a few different media outlets where non-forum goers would see it (I’m thinking io9, ign and possible G4) as well as the facebook grope. I think that a lot of people will be willing to contribute, but don’t have the time to try and track down all the important info.

I also think we should give the option for people to just contribute money to the cause, it may be difficult for some people stay involved in this plan for long periods of time, it may also be difficult for some people to order/mail the gloves (if they live overseas for example). If, on this hypothetical new site, we give people the option to donate 10 bucks or something we could potentially get a lot more support then if we require everyone to mail their own pair of gloves.

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Wednesday, August 13, 2008 4:40 AM

SCATHAC


Hey guys, you can count me in for anything that's good for the Firefly. Just let me know what you need me to do!

"The world is a mess. I just need to rule it."
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Wednesday, August 13, 2008 4:49 AM

MONTYSSOUPCATCHER


Well I say we go with the website then, if anybody is willing to set one up where we can kick this plan off from then that would be great. What does everybody else think?

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Wednesday, August 13, 2008 5:10 AM

MONTYSSOUPCATCHER


Another thought off the top of my head (again just brain storming), does any of the cast have an offical website, maybe if we contacted them through their site they may want to get involved in some way. A bit of high profile publicity cant hurt if we can get a firefly cast member helping the cause.

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Wednesday, August 13, 2008 5:39 AM

2BY2GINGERBLUE


I'm in just keep us updated

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Wednesday, August 13, 2008 6:15 AM

MASTERCPO117


Quote:

Originally posted by MontysSoupCatcher:
Another thought off the top of my head (again just brain storming), does any of the cast have an offical website, maybe if we contacted them through their site they may want to get involved in some way. A bit of high profile publicity cant hurt if we can get a firefly cast member helping the cause.



I know of these ones

http://nathanfillion.org/

http://alantudyk.org/

http://www.summer-glau.net/wp/


I they're all fan sites though, I don't think the actors have any input.

I think Nathan and Jewel are pretty avid myspace users, that could be a good place to start as well.

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Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:17 AM

SCHOOLBOYSWINK


O.K., here are some thoughts.

I'm not to up on the current state of television, since I don't have cable or satellite and can't seem to get a decent antenna signal where I live, but Joss has a new series coming out on FOX, no? Apparently some healing has taken place there. Also, FOX owns Firefly itself. I'm not sure when the debut is supposed to be, but supposing we continue to organize, planning, waiting, lurking... And after the Dollhouse has been on for six months and is as wildly popular and successful as we all know it will be, we STRIKE!!!!!!

I'm just saying, it might be good timing, if Joss can provide a real cash cow for FOX, then it might make them more receptive to the idea of re-launching our BDH.

Of course, there is always the Joss element to consider. I mean, some of the cast are working, but none of them very heavily, so them I'm not so much worried about wanting to come back. (Just from interviews and other whatnot, I'd say Ron Glass might have been willing to leave it behind him, but no problems there. He...achem. Still so sad. Too soon... too soon...) Anyway, what I'm more worried about is Joss. I haven't heard much out of him since...oh, since the BDM CE release, at least, maybe longer. Do we have anything recent from Joss that says HE'S willing to do it again? That is key.

I don't have much in the way of skills or money, but I am ready, willing, and able to be one of the grassroots, as long as Joss would support our actions. A quote from him on this new website we are talking about would be wicked awesome. I think the website is a great idea, and I'll be there religiously as soon as it's created.

I missed out on the show until after the BDM was already out, so I didn't get to take part the last time all the Browncoats did the impossible. I'm eager to prove my loyalty!

Still holding...

"When you can't do somethin' smart, do somethin' right!" -Jayne Cobb quotes Shepherd Book

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Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:20 AM

SCHOOLBOYSWINK


Oh, yeah, and uh...

I aim to misbehave!

"When you can't do somethin' smart, do somethin' right!" -Jayne Cobb quotes Shepherd Book

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Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:27 AM

MONTYSSOUPCATCHER


If there was a way to get in touch with joss then i would be the first to ask him, again if anyone knows if joss has a dedicated site then please post a link. A message from joss would be a hell of a boost in trying to get this going. Firefly is his baby and i think the story is still in its childhood, with our voices maybe we can help it grow.

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Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:49 AM

DARKFLY


Quote:

Originally posted by MasterCPO117:
Quote:

Originally posted by MontysSoupCatcher:
Another thought off the top of my head (again just brain storming), does any of the cast have an offical website, maybe if we contacted them through their site they may want to get involved in some way. A bit of high profile publicity cant hurt if we can get a firefly cast member helping the cause.



I know of these ones

http://nathanfillion.org/

http://alantudyk.org/

http://www.summer-glau.net/wp/


I they're all fan sites though, I don't think the actors have any input.

I think Nathan and Jewel are pretty avid myspace users, that could be a good place to start as well.



btw this Jewel Staite's official site:

http://jewelstaite.com/http://jewelstaite.com/


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Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:58 AM

MONTYSSOUPCATCHER


In a previous post someone mentioned that Nathan Fillion and Jewel Staite use my space a bit, if anyone with an account on there wants to visit their page and leave some info regarding what we are planning that would be good, I dont use my space or face book so dont have an account.

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Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:53 AM

FONGLUH


Okay, I have a website address set up: http://savefirefly.atspace.com

There's nothing there right now. Give me at least a few hours before you see any content or graphics.

I'll be sure to post a link to this thread in particular.

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Wednesday, August 13, 2008 9:02 AM

MONTYSSOUPCATCHER


Excellent, thank you for that im sure everyone here appreciates the time and effort you have gone to.

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Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:01 AM

MASTERCPO117


Quote:

Originally posted by MontysSoupCatcher:
In a previous post someone mentioned that Nathan Fillion and Jewel Staite use my space a bit, if anyone with an account on there wants to visit their page and leave some info regarding what we are planning that would be good, I dont use my space or face book so dont have an account.



I (rarely) use myspace, but I have an account. I’ll friend them up, and once we have formalized this idea a bit more I’ll send them a message. Although, myspace being the borderline chaos that it is, they may never even read it.

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Thursday, August 14, 2008 12:24 AM

ANGELIC


So we have a website that's under construction. Should we start a forum just for the save firefly movement? I would be willing to head that one up.

Sending an email is a good idea. We could make a template that everyone who wants to restart firefly could send to everyone that they know. And so on and so forth. That's a great way to connect with lots of people.

As for myspace... I don't care for it much. Facebook and the other hand has a pretty good group system that we could take advantage of. (Even just by joining the firefly groups already up there and posting links to our movement page.)

The address I think we would need is this one:
Fox Television Studios
P.O. Box 900, Beverly Hills,
CA 90213-0900

(I got this from here: url= http://www.newscorp.com/management/foxtvstudios.html)

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Thursday, August 14, 2008 4:15 AM

FONGLUH


Actually, I have a forum set up too. I'll have that ready for us some time today hopefully.

If you go here: http://savefirefly.atspace.com/ you'll notice I've gotten started. I'm thinking of actually purchasing a domain (such as savefirefly.com).

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Thursday, August 14, 2008 4:46 AM

MASTERCPO117


So is the ultimate goal of this to get a BDS or to try and get the show back on the air?

Also, just came across this, I'm sure some of you have seen it already though.

http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2008/08/13/will-there-ever-be-a-serenity-seq
uel-joss-whedon-puts-the-rumors-to-bed
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Thursday, August 14, 2008 5:00 AM

MONTYSSOUPCATCHER


Yes he says its not happening as nobody is knocking on his door, but he also says that if they were just like summer glau he would do it in a heart beat. Therefore he still must have the disire to do something with firefly and the cast would like to do something to by the sound of it. I know some people have knocked this idea of trying to get firefly to the front of tv bosses minds again saying its a waste of time but i say if you dont try then you will never know. Not having a dig at anyone but like i said we can only try to do this and see what the outcome is, it wont hurt anyone and if it does work then great if it doesnt work we havent lost anything.


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Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:08 AM

SCHOOLBOYSWINK


Quote:

Originally posted by MasterCPO117:
So is the ultimate goal of this to get a BDS or to try and get the show back on the air?

Also, just came across this, I'm sure some of you have seen it already though.

http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2008/08/13/will-there-ever-be-a-serenity-seq
uel-joss-whedon-puts-the-rumors-to-bed
/




Yeah, I don't see this article as discouraging in any way. I knew nobody WAS doing it, I just wanted to know if Joss would WANT to do it, given the opportunity, and it sounds like he would. That is enough for me.

As for some of the underlying fear here that it is a waste of time... Well, don't get me wrong by my posting here: There is not even a sliver of me that thinks this is actually going to happen. But you know what? I don't care! And that doesn't make it a waste of time! If we try and fail, then we will still have succeeded in showing that the Signal is still out there, and the Signal is US. True, it might be the same 14-episode Signal, put on loop, replaying over...and over...and over... But it is STILL going strong. Since I got into the show, I've created at least 4 converts, so I know firsthand that our numbers are still growing. And once you're in Serenity, you never leave, so we know our numbers will never shrink. (I do say, though, we should take our time and do this thing right. I don't want to blow our chances by going off half-cocked, since we might be down to our last round, here.)

I can THINK, even KNOW, with every part of my brain that this isn't going to work, but that doesn't stop the HOPE in my heart that it might just happen. After all, the 'Verse smiles on those who keep fighting for a lost cause. So, I say, let's rally. One last surge to hold the line against the darkness. One last push out into the Black. If we try and fail, we're out a little time, a little coin, and maybe some poeple will call us crazy. But if we never try at all, what are we then? I'd rather be a nut than a quitter.

Remember, you can't take the sky from me! The world's gonna see it, too. 'Cause they need to.

To quote another great sci-fi writer who never quit fighting for his story: "If you're falling off a cliff, you might as well try to fly. You haven't got anything to lose."

"When you can't do somethin' smart, do somethin' right!" -Jayne Cobb quotes Shepherd Book

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