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Photos from Serenity set!

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Sunday, September 12, 2004 2:07 AM

FORRESTWOLF


I managed to get some photos from the set of Serenity. It's some pretty amazing stuff - detailed scenery, as well as a SHINY picture of the Captain looking worried.

Be warned - this is true SPOILER territory. No major plot revelations that I can find, but still pretty suggestive.

You'll find the pictures here:

http://www.sixbyte.net/fireflynwn/serenity/

- Forrestwolf, who is in shock


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Sunday, September 12, 2004 3:31 AM

POETIC4U


Thanks, those were cool. :)

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Sunday, September 12, 2004 3:35 AM

FLYINGTAMS


Is that Morena Baccarin in shot 7? Damn, she has a hotty height :)

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Sunday, September 12, 2004 3:40 AM

POETIC4U


Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingTams:
Is that Morena Baccarin in shot 7? Damn, she has a hotty height :)


That's her alright. She looks gorgeous as ever.

"Older men declare war, but it is the youth who must fight and die. And it is the youth who must inherit the tribulation, the sorrow, and the triumphs that are the aftermath of war"
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"In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends." - Martin Luther King Jr.

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Sunday, September 12, 2004 3:42 AM

FORRESTWOLF


I don't think it IS Morena; but I could easily be wrong. If it's NOT her, I really wonder who it is.

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Sunday, September 12, 2004 3:46 AM

POETIC4U


Quote:

Originally posted by Forrestwolf:
I don't think it IS Morena; but I could easily be wrong. If it's NOT her, I really wonder who it is.


Really? Cuz I see gold, and in shot 8 has Morena wearing gold. Hmmm... You know, I wonder if these were the shots Jewel Staite [Kaylee] said when she wrote in her blog that she had to climb a lot of stairs.

"Older men declare war, but it is the youth who must fight and die. And it is the youth who must inherit the tribulation, the sorrow, and the triumphs that are the aftermath of war"
- Herbert Clark Hoover

"In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends." - Martin Luther King Jr.

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Sunday, September 12, 2004 4:02 AM

SPOOKYJESUS


It's Morena and Nate -

Those photos are the shit!

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Sunday, September 12, 2004 4:13 AM

FORRESTWOLF


Yep, you're right - it's her, I'd have to agree. Wow!

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Sunday, September 12, 2004 5:21 AM

SHW


Okay. Looked at photoes. Done the requistite drooling over Cap'n Tightpants.
questions/comments follow.

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WHAT'S WITH ALL THE (WELL BOTH) THE FRIGGIN' SKELTONS! I'm thinking Reavers, but the bodies aren't all tied up. Gorramnit, I need some insight into Reaver psychology. Do they usually tie up the bodies like they did in 'Bushwacked'?
Although, the shuttle through a wall decor makes me wonder if the bodies are industrial accident or whatnot. ROLL ON APRIL 22nd!



shw

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Sunday, September 12, 2004 5:49 AM

HARDWARE


Be forewarned folks, the site with the pics has been posted to Slashdot. It probably won't be as bad, being a Sunday, but things that are slashdotted tend to get slammed for bandwidth.

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Sunday, September 12, 2004 6:11 AM

OUTLANDER


Did everyone notice Joss and Nathan in photo 7

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Sunday, September 12, 2004 6:16 AM

SHINY


Do you happen to know the inside story as to how these pictures were acquired? Just curious if it was a fan sneaking on the set or someone actually working on the movie in some official capacity...

Jayne, your mouth is talkin. Might want to look into that.

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Sunday, September 12, 2004 6:49 AM

FORRESTWOLF


Shiny -

I know the person who gave them to me; really shouldn't say much to avoid trouble. Interestingly, they're NOT a fan. Hopefully now they are :)

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Sunday, September 12, 2004 7:42 AM

RHUTTNER


OMG

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Inara is wearing pants!!!!

When I watched the beginning of Ariel last night, for some reason I noticed that Inara was dressed too fancy to be playing games with Kaylee and wondered if she has more casual clothes. Now I know.


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Sunday, September 12, 2004 7:54 AM

MOOSHOO72


I went and looked at the teaser again, and the skeleton and a shot of the stairs with the cast in front of them are in it, although briefly. Gosh, I really need to learn to stay away from spoilers.. :(

My other ship is a Mid-Bulk Transport Standard Radion Accelerator Core Class Code 03-K64 Firefly.

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Sunday, September 12, 2004 8:46 AM

FORRESTWOLF


Is that the scene when they're all there? When the text says "They're back"? Very nifty - that's a great scene in the teaser.

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Sunday, September 12, 2004 8:52 AM

CYBERSNARK


(Crime) Scene Analysis:

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I don't think those bodies have been reaverized. Not unless reavers are in the habit of skinning their victims, then drying and dressing the remains, then carefully positioning them as if they'd just fallen. Seems a bit too involved.

And they don't look skinned, they look dessicated. That guy in photo three seems to still have some hairs on his skull.

They seem to be lying where they died; I'd say they'd been shot and the bodies left long ago, except that the clothes and setting aren't as decomposed as the corpses themselves. They look like they might've been nuked, but I don't know of any nuclear device that can damage organic tissue that much and still not cause any collateral damage, if only from shockwaves.

Also, she may just be breaking character (if no actual filming was happening at that moment), but note how "confused" Morena looks. Nathan is almost certainly off-camera (or else Joss is doing an on-screen cameo), but he has a similar expression (possibly Joss is coaching him on something).



Extrapolation and Speculation:

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Maybe this is the same town that we've been hearing about that was "hit by reavers." Mal and company show up (either to render assistance, raid the bodies, or let Book do right by the victims like he did in Bushwacked) and are visibly surprised/confused by what they see; this is not reaver handiwork.

About this time, River starts screaming uncontrollably and freaking out, saying "they're here, they're here. . . two by two. . ."



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Sunday, September 12, 2004 10:27 AM

FORRESTWOLF


Very interesting interpretations there, Cyber. Complete shift of what I thought the movie was about if you're right - I HOPE you're right.

The photos are slashdotted; is there anything Browncoats are supposed to do in such situations to promote Firefly?

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Sunday, September 12, 2004 11:15 AM

SHINY


Quote:

Originally posted by Forrestwolf:
The photos are slashdotted; is there anything Browncoats are supposed to do in such situations to promote Firefly?



I suppose you could stick 'em up in the blue sun room...

Jayne, your mouth is talkin. Might want to look into that.

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Sunday, September 12, 2004 10:26 PM

ZOID



'snark, et al:

Yeah, when I saw the pictures, I immediately thought,

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"If they're Reaver victims, it's a pretty neat trick picking 'em clean without taking their clothes off." Now I'm thinking -- if realism has anything to do with it -- biological or chemical agent. Plain old mustard gas does a good job of advancing tissue destruction (blister agent) without destroying clothing. Of course, it could also be a weapons-grade flesh-eating virus. Aerial burst with aerosol delivery, perhaps...

Discounting some new trick by which the Blue Hands melt people's flesh -- why? when you could just use NBC weapons that have been around for 500+ years at that point -- there's obviously a very nasty group at work.

One final thought: To my eye, the clothing on the corpses does not appear 'western', but rather either Oriental or 'flower child'; lot's of sandals, loose mid-calf pants, and maybe a gi(?) on the corpse on the stairs. Are these the missing Chinese or is this a planetoid inhabited by refugees from NPR?


Food for thought...


Respectfully,

zoid
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Monday, September 13, 2004 2:55 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Thanks for posting the pics Forrestwolf. These are great shots of the set. The looks of that wrecked shuttle look very similar to the wreakage that Wash is walking past in the photo of where he is wearing the flight suit. Wonder if they are from the same planet.

Nice speculations so far on what we are looking at in the pics.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."


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Monday, September 13, 2004 4:23 AM

FORRESTWOLF


Thanks, Browncoat1! It was a thrill to get them (person gave them to me - no idea how cool they were - my jaw dropped).

In regards to speculation, has anyone looked closely at the sculpture and the logo on the side of the shuttle? Four circles, three orbiting the fourth. You'll also find that image in the Mandel artwork, though there it's actually filled in as planets. AND you'll find the image at the top of the 'Welcome to Lilac' sign posted on fireflymovie.com. I always thought they were the Core worlds, but now I wonder exactly what they are - why would three of them orbit another? Ideas?

- Forrestwolf

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Monday, September 13, 2004 4:40 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Could be a planet w/ three moons ForrestWolf. I doubt it would be a core world. If it were a Core planet the place would either be cleaned up or crawling w/ Purplebellies. Those bodies appear to have been there for some time.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."


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Monday, September 13, 2004 7:04 AM

ZOID


Browncoat1:

Presuming the intact clothing and state of decomposition are 'correct' according to the story and not just a prop error...

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...They've been dead less than a week, maybe less than a couple of days. The meat is red and clinging to the bone. Oddly, the corpse on the stairs appears to be in a reversed state of decomposition, with the skin intact but the underlying soft tissue gone, when compared to the other corpses, which have no skin, only scraps of (still red) tissue attached to bones. In both cases, they do not appear to have been cannibalized by a large predator (like Reavers); the 'corpsification' of the bodies extends beneath their clothing. Perhaps they were all eaten alive by a ravening horde of field mice? Army ants would do a much more thorough job, picking the bones clean, and neither would eat flesh from under the skin, while leaving skin intact.

The sculpture emphasizes one of the orbital bodies, representing it in gold, while the others are silver (one bronze? Caste society?).



I deduce it was a Browncoat extra who took the pics surreptitiously, since -- as Forrestwolf pointed out -- this is from the 'Lilac' set, and that's when fans trekked to Cali to get in the movie. I also suspect that Joss was prepared for/planned on some 'leakage' from that particular set. It's a bit of a head game; but, given a rabid fanbase, there are some reactions that could be depended upon from those fans. Properly manipulated, everyone gets what they want (fans = active participation and fresh material to chew on; JW = active fan participation and continuing word-of-mouth) and no major plot points need be spoiled.

Joss (to casting agent): "We're gonna be shooting a sequence of scenes in week 2 or 3 of production. I only want extras whose resumes specifically state 'big fan of show' or 'Joss is God!', or some such."

Joss (to cast and crew): "Okay we're gonna have Browncoats all over the set for the next couple of days. Give 'em the royal treatment and ignore the 'well-concealed' cameras they're carrying."

We know how tight JW can be with plot details, and he had to know Browncoats couldn't be trusted to keep a secret. He knows us, right? Joss doesn't strike me as a Pollyanna. I'd bet he planned on pics of the shoot getting published, and manipulated the content (and possibly the timing) of such pictorial releases.


conspiratorially,

zoid
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Monday, September 13, 2004 7:44 AM

FORRESTWOLF


Sorry, didn't mean to imply it was the Lilac set - the set I was referring to was the one Jeremy of fireflymovie.com was an extra at (HE posted a picture with a Lilac sign on it and the same insignia in these photos).

THIS set could be from anywhere, though I'd agree that Lilac's a likely possibility, given what's there.

As for the mystery photographer, I know the person. Actually NOT a Browncoat - not even a fan. Hopefully now they are :)

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Monday, September 13, 2004 8:27 AM

ZOID


Forrestwolf:

Hmmm... Okay, forget my conspiracy theory, then. Just funnin' anywhoo...

v/r,
zed

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Monday, September 13, 2004 1:14 PM

AOMAN14


I love all the speculation on these great pics. I have one of my own to add, I did not see anyone else mention this...

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In Ariel we get to see the Blue Sun guys with their fancy blue gloves use the device that makes people bleed from the eyes and nose and other areas. Could those bodies be left over from either that device or a large scale verson of it. It would explain why the clothes were still intact and why Mal has such a confused look on his face.



Lets hear what you all think of that idea :)

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Monday, September 13, 2004 2:05 PM

FORRESTWOLF


Ooh, my first use of 'spoiler' text:

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Actually there's a wand-like weapon someone uses in the trailer - I believe on Simon - that looks nasty. Sorta seems like blue-hands technology. Anyone notice that, too?

As for this idea about the skeletons being blue-hands victims, I sure hope so - I'd love more of an emphasis on them than on Reavers.




Oh, and Zoid, I thought it was hilarious! Just didn't want to leave you with the wrong impression about where it came from.


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Monday, September 20, 2004 12:04 PM

FATBRIANWILSON


What's crazy is that the 'movie set' here is actually Diamond Ranch High School, which i attended a couple of years ago, and is right by my house.

it's got that nutty corrugated metal architecture, and was already featured in such crappy films as "Orange County", "The Cell", and "Impostor".

this update has blown my mind... because now i'm going to have bizarre unpleasant high school flashbacks when i go to see Serenity.

yikes??

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Monday, September 20, 2004 2:07 PM

HJERMSTED


Yes but what I REALLY want to know is...

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Why is Joss so damned pink? (photo #7)Everyone else on the set is tan.




mattro

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Monday, September 20, 2004 4:13 PM

FORRESTWOLF


Yep - think you're right about the school (I'm sure YOU know, having gone there) - some other people on the Net identified it (on Slashdot, actually), too.

Yes, that WOULD be strange - just watch out for Reavers at your reunions :)

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Tuesday, September 21, 2004 4:26 AM

MANTICHORUS


This could be a load of BS for all I know, but...
I've heard about something called a 'muon wash', which, supposedly, is a bomb which destroys all organic material, while leaving inorganic structures with minimal damage.
Could this be a muon drop? (Of course, it's probably all total BS, but...)

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Tuesday, September 21, 2004 5:05 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Quote:

Originally posted by fatbrianwilson:
What's crazy is that the 'movie set' here is actually Diamond Ranch High School, which i attended a couple of years ago, and is right by my house.

it's got that nutty corrugated metal architecture, and was already featured in such crappy films as "Orange County", "The Cell", and "Impostor".

this update has blown my mind... because now i'm going to have bizarre unpleasant high school flashbacks when i go to see Serenity.

yikes??



Welcome to the board FatBrianWilson! Glad to have you w/ us.

That is so shiny that you went to high school where those pics were taken. You can watch the movie and point things out to friends and family.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."


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Tuesday, September 21, 2004 6:10 AM

CYBERSNARK


Quote:

Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
You can watch the movie and point things out to friends and family.

. . . After the film, lest ye go to the Special Hell.



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Friday, September 24, 2004 6:09 AM

MER


All those pictures makes me feel sucicious of the situation and all...not to mention why I have ALL those pics on my comp *laughs* they're so strange in a way.

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I wouldn't be surprised if it was some dumb accident Blue Sun covered up, a guinea pig ordeal, or probably someone who didn't want to have any part of how things are run now.


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Friday, September 24, 2004 7:43 AM

SIGNYM

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The people look as if they dropped in the middle of going about ordinary business, which would mean that the society was functioning normally at the time of the deaths. But if it was a wide-scale act on an intact society, wouldn't there be a lot MORE bodies? And if it was focused on just a few individuals, where is everyone else?

The only two things I can think of are that either it was focused on individuals and the population was prohibited from removing the bodies, similar to leaving someone's head on a pike, or more likely it was an epidemic of sorts and we are seeing the initial victims- the remainder having had enough time to flee and die somewhere else.

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