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FOX vs youtube.com

POSTED BY: PIRATECAT
UPDATED: Monday, March 19, 2007 11:47
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Tuesday, March 13, 2007 7:50 PM

PIRATECAT


They win again. They cancel a great show. It is a hit but they don't get it. Becomes cult status. Becomes BDM. They go after the little people making t-shirts and posters before the BDM. Now they force you tube to remove all firefly videos which were cool. Whats with these dudes. You won't remake the show. Cancel it. Then stomp on anyone who wants to have a little piece of it. I just don't get the studios. On another note just got my 007 dvd awesome today. Also got my 1st season of Alias Smith and Jones reminds me of Mal and Zoe.


"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".

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Tuesday, March 13, 2007 10:35 PM

SHAMELESS


What? The videos are being removed? THE VIDEOS WITH THE EXTRA LONG GAG REEL FROM FIREFLY? BASTARDS!!!

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Landmines - $50 per
Attack/track dogs bred 1st class - $250-500 per
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The look on your face when I show up on your doorstep with a bigfoot - ... Priceless

"You gotta love that the first pirated HD DVD is the one about space pirates who broadcast a video that the government wants to keep secret.

Can't stop the signal."
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Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:29 AM

SNAKEBLOKE


Yeah FOX are rutt'n' w*nk*rs and i hope one of their representatives sees this cos YOU SUCK FOX!

Stop felating each other and remake Firefly...



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Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:37 AM

LIVEBROWN


FOX are only coverting what is rightfully theirs by law.










Their own stupidity.

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Wednesday, March 14, 2007 1:12 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Well it looks as if Fox is not the only one going after YouTube/Google. MSN reported yesterday that Viacom is suing YouTube/Google for $1 billion.

I expect that we will see YouTube cleaning up the site over the next few weeks getting rid of anything that could land them in hot water. If there is anything on YouTube you want you best download it now.

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Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:27 AM

STONEARCH


How does one go about actually saving a video of youtube to your own computer (rather than adding it to favorites)?

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Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:30 AM

PENGUIN


If you use Firefox there are a couple of extensions that allow you to save the vids...I use VideoDownloader.




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Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:34 AM

CAUSAL


I said when the flap over Napster started and I'll say it again: the digital media genie is out of the bottle--you can't put it back in again. You just have to learn to do business in a digital market place. People look down on conservatives for trying to halt "progress?" Just look at those fuckers in the entertainment industry: they're trying to turn the clock back to the pre-digital age, and they're alienating their fans while they're at it. Morons.

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Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:19 PM

PIRATECAT


Well on a good note their is one dimension in space where Firefly is on its 5th season. Of course I am still working third shift.


"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".

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Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:50 AM

ALLIETHORN7


Bastards.
We have done the impossible, and that makes us mighty. And these rutters can NOT stand us getting a little piece of it- and, so, they stomp out what they can.
Save all that you can- before the End

-Danny

I wanna take the bullet,
The one aimed straight for your Heart;
I wanna meet the Wolves halfway,
And let them Tear me Apart,
But that's not the way they do it here...

THRICE RULES!!!!!!!!

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Thursday, March 15, 2007 4:48 AM

SPACEGIRL32


Unfortunately, there are a lot of very cool videos with no disclaimers. That makes them easy targets.

I must point out again that they haven't gone after any of The X-Files fanvids/ Bloopers.

Interesting....

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Friday, March 16, 2007 4:35 PM

OUT2THEBLACK


Quote:

Originally posted by Spacegirl32:
I must point out again that they haven't gone after any of The X-Files fanvids/ Bloopers.

Interesting....



That's because X-Files , although it was
" subversive " , was viewed by the average watcher as just another paranoid ,
sci-fi/fantasy program . It had it's great points , and was often fun to watch , but a lot of folk just wouldn't consider it 'real' .

So X-Files = subversive , but 'unreal'...

On the other hand , Firefly , although subversive and a somewhat down-and-dirty vision of the future , is held by its viewership to be more plausible , and therefore , "more real" .

The individualist and libertarian aspects are what make it too subversive for the Alliances and Blue Suns of our little world , and the future that is planned for delivery to all of us...

Real , everyday folk IN SPACE , making their own way ? Can't be ALLOWED to happen...Too much freedom...Gotta smash the dreams of the common folk . " Don't want 'em to have firearms , and definitely not those dangerous Space Ships ! Someone could be Killed ! "

And that THEME SONG ! " Can't take the sky from me ! "

" That Joss Whedon is a bomb-throwing
rabble-rouser who must be stopped at any cost ! "

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Sunday, March 18, 2007 4:37 PM

ASORTAFAIRYTALE


Don't most of the videos say in like really big letters that they were made for fun, and they give credit to Fox, universal, etc.? The shouldn't they not count that as copyright infringement?
This just doesn't make sense to me. In the same way that it didn't make sense to me when they shut down bluesunshirts.com. If they're not doing anything with this great idea that they threw away, then what's the point in keeping others from supporting it??

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Monday, March 19, 2007 12:41 AM

B1GDAMNH3R0


Quote:

What? The videos are being removed? THE VIDEOS WITH THE EXTRA LONG GAG REEL FROM FIREFLY? BASTARDS!!!


just what i was thinking DAMN YOU FOX! DAMN YOU TO HELL!! *grabs shotgun and torch* BURN THEM!!!


"When does it stop being CPR and start being necrophilia?"

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Monday, March 19, 2007 11:02 AM

HOUDINI


Quote:

Originally posted by asortafairytale:
Don't most of the videos say in like really big letters that they were made for fun, and they give credit to Fox, universal, etc.? The shouldn't they not count that as copyright infringement?
This just doesn't make sense to me. In the same way that it didn't make sense to me when they shut down bluesunshirts.com. If they're not doing anything with this great idea that they threw away, then what's the point in keeping others from supporting it??


Unfortunately giving credit does not stop copyright infringement from being copyright infringement. You need to explicitly get permission from the copyright holders to use their copyrighted material.

That said, I see no reason whatsoever why they should be going after people who post videos on YouTube. If anything it just gives them more advertisement and word of mouth. It doesn't make sense to me at all.


- Houdini

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Monday, March 19, 2007 11:14 AM

TDBROWN


Foxes are notoriously nearsighted...



"Might have been the losing side, still not convinced it was the wrong one." -Mal

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Monday, March 19, 2007 11:47 AM

COLORADOCOMPANION


Fanvids are free promotion ...a way to get their product out and in to even more hands.

How many people would never have heard of Firefly if it wasn't for some fan with a vid on their myspace page?

Removing the vids.....

Legal: Yes

Smart: NO

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