GENERAL DISCUSSIONS

LIVE From Dragon*Con

POSTED BY: BAD2VERSE
UPDATED: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 19:39
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Thursday, September 7, 2006 7:21 PM

BOOMERGOODHEART


You're most welcome!

By the by...should we make a plan to update next year as well? LOL. More than happy to do it.

BoomerGoodheart
"I love my Captain."

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Thursday, September 7, 2006 7:37 PM

BAD2VERSE


Quote:

Originally posted by BoomerGoodheart:
You're most welcome!

By the by...should we make a plan to update next year as well? LOL. More than happy to do it.



How Often does it move around? Maybe that's why I couldn't find it on Google... I Hope the cast can find it if they're giving out info!

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Thursday, September 7, 2006 7:43 PM

BOOMERGOODHEART


Adam posts on the OB all the time, most often in the political section(s). He did put a post in general discussions when he found out he had to work, instead of D*Cing. He's such a standup kinda guy!

Maybe sometime in the next year, Haken could make a dedicated Con page, for updates from the attendees. It could include anything that a group of fans attends...just to keep those of us who only go to one or two up to date! Sound like an idea?

BoomerGoodheart
"I love my Captain."

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Thursday, September 7, 2006 8:25 PM

BAD2VERSE


Quote:

Originally posted by BoomerGoodheart:
Adam posts on the OB all the time, most often in the political section(s). He did put a post in general discussions when he found out he had to work, instead of D*Cing. He's such a standup kinda guy!

Maybe sometime in the next year, Haken could make a dedicated Con page, for updates from the attendees. It could include anything that a group of fans attends...just to keep those of us who only go to one or two up to date! Sound like an idea?

BoomerGoodheart
"I love my Captain."



VERY Shiny!

I think a "*Con" section (for ANY and ALL of the various "Cons") would be great, But I'm a nobody, so my opinion carries exactly NO weight... But it might keep things moving, keep us all up to date, let us know who's saying what, how they're acting, etc...

I'd be happy to write a quick PERL "Upload pictures/video/audio script" if there's enough Disk space and bandwidth to handle all the pics... I try to keep mine spread around on various servers, because this site gets a lot of hits and loads the pics and such up from various sites every time someone clicks on the thread.. I noticed some folk's pics don't show up (Like from Photo bucket) after they cross a certain bandwidth limit, and the poster doesn't know it's not showing up 'cause the pic is in their cache (so THEY see it while WE don't)


But Imagine all the Shiny Pics and Video and Audio that could be collected!!!

One thing I found "unsettling" at Dragon*Con was a "FEW" fans were acting kinda "possessive", like they OWNED the actors.. one girl asked for a hug (on a dare from her girlfriend), and the people beside us got ANGRY and were yelling "ABSOLUTELY NOT" and "Who does SHE think she is?" and "Someone needs to sit her down!"... and there were several others in the room murmuring (or loudly saying) the same (or similar) things... then Summer said "I don't have a girlfriend" (after Alan said his S.O. has a "No Hugging rule") and she hugged the lady, and I thought the people sitting beside me were gonna go into apoplexy... they were so angry and SO jealous, that I actually slid over in my seat a bit.

Generally I have found Browncoats ULTRA willing to work together without the usual "I want to be the leader" crap found on many sites trying to get something accomplished.. I guess there's a few though in every crowd.

I STRONGLY dislike that "I'm more of a Browncoat than you are" crap.. but again, I guess there's a few in every crowd. Those types need to step back from the edge a little bit and remember that after all is said and done "It's a SHOW".

It's sad when Fans of ANY show go over that line, and the "Show" becomes more important than their lives... I've seen it in a LOT of Trekker friends, We had a fellow about 4 years back that missed so much work over going to StarTrek conventions that we had to let him go (Which I hated, because he was a hellofva good analyst, when his mind was on WORK).. in our line of business, you have to keep your head in the game and juggle a lot of things at the same time... If you miss a few days you come back and think "God, How am I EVER gonna catch up and get "The Big Picture" back in my head?

I worked from the hotel Room Every night of the *Con, and through lunches, Just so I wouldn't be lost when I came back into the office Tuesday... Shows are a nice distraction from reality, but the Bills have to be paid first ;)


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Thursday, September 7, 2006 8:41 PM

BAD2VERSE


Quote:

Originally posted by StarPilotGrainger:
I'm saying this particular point of it is nonsense. And, people being as they are (not robot-like), a nonsense point is liable to make them dismiss your WHOLE analysis, because they figure, if you make one nonsense point, or making connections that clearly aren't there, or making too much of information that was already known before Serenity's box office was known, perhaps you're making other ones that they just didn't spot. So I'm suggesting, if you want people to believe your speculations, you don't include that particular point in your argument, as it's a nonsense point. IMHO.

Star Pilot Grainger



Gosh, How did I EVER make my first Mil without your expert advice, keen insight, and knowledge of all things? How did I EVER get all those Gov Contracts and bonuses? I'm simply in awe. I know so little compared to you. You're SO much more of a browncoat... I'll leave ALL further speculation to YOU.
I'm your humble Nonsense Servent forever. You've converted me, Lead on!

I just got the FOULEST worded email from this site that I have EVER seen, apparently "Just for the fun of it".. I'm not wasting any more time or bandwidth posting here for the trolls and know-it-alls..

Sorry to the rest of you.. I hate to take my ball and go home, but I WILL NOT be subjected to THAT kind of crap, and I certainly won't PAY in bandwidth for it..

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Thursday, September 7, 2006 9:16 PM

WINDSTRUCK


OUCH!!!

BAD has been very gracious in sharing his thoughts and ideas with us.
He even took us to D*C.
It is his opinion he was expressing and he believes it as he sees it.
And from his trained eye, he thinks there will be another Serenity Movie.
Now tell me what is wrong with that??!!

Give him a break. And stop trollin him.


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Thursday, September 7, 2006 9:38 PM

BOOMERGOODHEART


I am a fan of Firefly and Serenity. I am not a rabid fan. I don't analyze the show to death. Was I pissed when it was cancelled? More than I can say. Did I cry about it? No, because I really do belive that it's just a TV show. Do I deride fans who took it harder than I did? Absolutely not. What gives ME the right to tell anyone else that their feelings are wrong? Same goes for beliefs, whatever they might be (religious, personal, hopeful for another movie, whatever). I have no right to tell another person that they're wrong. I may not agree, but that's what makes discussion interesting. When disagreement trips into personal attacks, or making someone feel bad for their opinions, is where I draw the line. Life is too short for such bullshit. If I don't cotton to your personal opinion, well....let's have a drink and a couple o' laughs and hash it out. I come from a family of talkers and bullshitters. I love intelligent debate, or even not so intelligent.

Belief is not based on "proof positive". That's what makes it BELIEF, not SCIENCE.

Hope I didn't offend anyone.

BoomerGoodheart
"I love my Captain."

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Thursday, September 7, 2006 10:36 PM

VERSEEXPLORER


I believe there will be more. Bad2 willing shared information that made sense to me. Some folk will only believe when they hear it from Joss. Some folk will only believe when they put their money down and walk in the theater.

I value what Bad2 has given us on the other threads, and what he has shared from the con. You don't have to agree. Stop the yucky e-mails!

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Thursday, September 7, 2006 11:08 PM

DARKFLY


Bad2Verse is there any chance of a downloadable version of the audio clip or maybe you could email it to me.


Oh & Hell's Kitchen your the prettiest Borwncoat ever.




-----------------------------------------------------------------


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Go to http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0379786/ & vote 10/10 for Serenity

Go to

to see my cool trailer.

Things are about to get interesting...Define interesting...Oh GOD oh GOD we're all going to die.

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Friday, September 8, 2006 12:11 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


*grumble grumble* I wish I could have been there. I wish I could have told Summer what a brillaint actress she is. And sat in her lap! And just run into Alan and... Oh so many things.

*edit* And the snips now make some kind of sense. I am very sad that anyone would be so incredibly thoughtless and mean as to message such an intelligent and sharing Browncoat in such a way.
Bad2, I did not get to see any of the shiny things you posted. I am sad. If you don't want to post them here, could you tell me how to access them? I would appreciate it.



Health is the greatest gift, contentment the greatest wealth, faithfulness the best relationship. - Gautama Siddharta

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Friday, September 8, 2006 12:43 AM

DARKFLY


I know exactly what it feels like PhoenixRose,I live in the UK.

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Go to http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0379786/ & vote 10/10 for Serenity

Go to

to see my cool trailer.

Things are about to get interesting...Define interesting...Oh GOD oh GOD we're all going to die.

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Friday, September 8, 2006 2:40 AM

CALLMESERENITY


Okay, Sean, dear. Whatever you do, DON'T go here www.flickr.com/photos/callmeserenity if you don't like pictures of you with things on your head.

Serenity,
President of The Juggled Gosling Chatroom
Bride8

http://callmeserenity.livejournal.com/

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Friday, September 8, 2006 2:43 AM

CHATOYANT


As you know, Heather, I am not "Patience!" I suppose I could excercise some, but the web-Browncoat-commmunity is so big and so small, all at once! I didn't even realise that this Heather could be the same Heather I just saw in Atlanta! I should read the signatures along with the posts.

I look forward to seeing the video, I also have some stills coming from Alan reading the eulogy in the panel. I'm still on Cloud 9.

Sam

I'm not a psychopath, I'm more of a psycho-highway.

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Friday, September 8, 2006 6:35 AM

THISODDFEMME


Hey! You stole all my pictures! Then credited Liz...well, not for all of them...silly Serenity...aren't you cute with your huge album....

It's okay though. I don't mind.


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Friday, September 8, 2006 7:41 AM

XANDERESQUE


Quote:

Originally posted by manwithpez:
Xanderesque wrote:
Thursday, September 07, 2006 01:19
Quote:

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Originally posted by THISODDFEMME:
Hey! You took a picture of us...neat!
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Which one are you??

A grease smudged Kaylee and a Simon in a shiny blue vest. Oh, and sorry...I was the other part of the "us" she mentioned...



Nice! The costumes were perfect for you guys. Not the best picture, but I'm glad I got some of the folks in line.

I'm working on the rest of the weekend pics now.

http://www.animateanimal.com/dragoncon/2006/saturday/

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Friday, September 8, 2006 8:15 AM

CALLMESERENITY


I'm so sorry Toffy!

I did steal everyone's pictures. I had them all grouped together, but they got mixed up some and I got confused and forgot which ones were whose! I promise when I get more time (you know, like next month) I'll go back and correct it all.

I did want to credit the people that deserved crediting. :(

I just wanted everyone's pictures so I could print them out when I have time (you know, like November) and put them in my photo album that I'm about 6 months behind on.

Plus, your pictures were extra shiny!






Serenity,
President of The Juggled Gosling Chatroom
Bride8

http://callmeserenity.livejournal.com/

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Friday, September 8, 2006 10:59 AM

PLUTOMOMENT


Quote:

Originally posted by Chatoyant:
As you know, Heather, I am not "Patience!" I suppose I could excercise some, but the web-Browncoat-commmunity is so big and so small, all at once! I didn't even realise that this Heather could be the same Heather I just saw in Atlanta! I should read the signatures along with the posts.

I look forward to seeing the video, I also have some stills coming from Alan reading the eulogy in the panel. I'm still on Cloud 9.

Sam

I'm not a psychopath, I'm more of a psycho-highway.



Heh it's ok. I'll get you whatever I get as soon as I get it ^_~


Heather
SEBC Vice-Chair
www.SoutheasternBrowncoats.org

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Friday, September 8, 2006 1:10 PM

PATIENCE


Quote:

Originally posted by Chatoyant:
As you know, Heather, I am not "Patience!"



Nope...that would be ME!!

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Friday, September 8, 2006 5:00 PM

IHEARTFIREFLY


Bad2,
Don't let one idiot ruin things for the rest of us!
That was one of the most frustrating things about grade school- One crazy kid would do something stupid and the whole class of well-behaved kids missed out on the reward.

I must say, Bad2Verse, that reading your posts have been the most interesting and engaging thing I have come across in a while. I almost never read entire threads when they are this long, but you had me quite engaged- and now I'm mad-
For one, that someone would be a jerk to you for expressing yourself. And two, that you would let them run you off of the board.
I appreciate your insight and I wish you would repost your experience for the rest of us.

"Can't take the sky..."

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Friday, September 8, 2006 5:26 PM

ADAPA



Hear Hear Iheartfirefly,
I hope we haven't seen the last of Bad2! His opinions may differ from the norm but where's the harm in believing?

My feeling aren't as well expressed as bad2's but combine them with Joss's criptic last paragraph and I can't help but agree with Bad2's assement, somethings up...

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Friday, September 8, 2006 5:55 PM

IHEARTFIREFLY


Agreed.


"Can't take the sky..."

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Friday, September 8, 2006 10:50 PM

WINDSTRUCK


Quote:

Originally posted by adapa:

Hear Hear Iheartfirefly,
I hope we haven't seen the last of Bad2! His opinions may differ from the norm but where's the harm in believing?

My feeling aren't as well expressed as bad2's but combine them with Joss's criptic last paragraph and I can't help but agree with Bad2's assement, somethings up...



Seconded.


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Saturday, September 9, 2006 7:59 AM

ANONYMOUS1


Quote:

Originally posted by RimGirl:
Oh, and who is coming with me to White Noise 2 about 20 times the first weekend?



I'll be seeing White Noise: The Light (Nathan Fillion's next movie) that first weekend too UK 5 January 2007 USA 5 January 2007.

Don't know how many times. Saw Serenity many many times. Saw SLiTHER many many times.

Nathan's page on http://imdb.com/name/nm0277213
lists his movies etc.

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Saturday, September 9, 2006 11:03 AM

MRT


Bad2 - I like people who believe in themselves as they are the sort of people I would want to follow into battle. You are one of them, but more than just believing in yourself you have given me renewed hope and made me believe.

I hope you do look in to read this series of messages of thanks and support. Please don't let one rotten apple spoil the taste of the site. You are MUCH appreciated and I for one have found your update posts, as well as your insight, great fun, fascinating, stimulating, and all round excellent.

I'm with you, and I'd follow you.

MrT

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Saturday, September 9, 2006 4:26 PM

TRAILRUNNERMARK


Right on MrT,

I was lucky enough to read BAD2VERSE's posts just before they were . They were insightful and informative, and whether or not he has reached the right conclusions is immaterial. He certainly presented his arguements in an intelligent fashion. I sent my wife a link to the thread so she could read it, but by the time she logged in the next night all his observations of Dragon Con were gone.

The Verse is filled with all kinds of people, and some people can't make an arguement while remaining polite. There's a quote from Lazarus Long about politeness, but I can't think of it right now. When you have to resort to foul language though, it means you don't have anything else worth saying and you should just shut up.

BAD2VERSE, hope you are still listening, even if you won't be contributing any more.

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Saturday, September 9, 2006 6:46 PM

PATMAN


For your viewing pleasure, I have finally posted my photos taken at the 3 Serenity panels at Dragon*Con last weekend:

Panels 1 and 2:
http://www.patcave.com/dc2k6/dc2k6panser1.html

Panel 3 and the Shindig:
http://www.patcave.com/dc2k6/dc2k6panser2.html

Summer and Alan also show up in my Dragon*Con Convention Guest page:

http://www.patcave.com/dc2k6/dc2k6celebs.html

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Sunday, September 10, 2006 5:22 AM

WICKEDWREN


I'm still unpacking stuff from D*C and I just came across a wrap. It is black. It was left on the floor near the pillars at the front of the Shindig room. If this is your's or think you might know who it belongs to, let me know =)

Thanks,
Serenity

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www.southeasternbrowncoats.org
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A good friend will bail you out of jail. A true friend will be sitting next to you, saying "Damn...that was fun!"

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Sunday, September 10, 2006 5:36 AM

YINYANG

You were busy trying to get yourself lit on fire. It happens.


Quote:

Right on MrT,

I was lucky enough to read BAD2VERSE's posts just before they were . They were insightful and informative, and whether or not he has reached the right conclusions is immaterial. He certainly presented his arguements in an intelligent fashion. I sent my wife a link to the thread so she could read it, but by the time she logged in the next night all his observations of Dragon Con were gone.

The Verse is filled with all kinds of people, and some people can't make an arguement while remaining polite. There's a quote from Lazarus Long about politeness, but I can't think of it right now. When you have to resort to foul language though, it means you don't have anything else worth saying and you should just shut up.

BAD2VERSE, hope you are still listening, even if you won't be contributing any more.



Wow... I didn't realize until just now that almost all of his posts were (snip). That makes me very, very sad. He gave me the kind of hope for a sequel that was really great, and some things I never would have thought of on my own. He taught me to hope when all hope seemed lost, or silly, or idiotic.

Between this and everything else going on right now, I'm gonna go have me an unhappy day.

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http://richlabonte.net/tvvote

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Sunday, September 10, 2006 6:06 AM

YINYANG

You were busy trying to get yourself lit on fire. It happens.


Quote:

Originally posted by Patman:
For your viewing pleasure, I have finally posted my photos taken at the 3 Serenity panels at Dragon*Con last weekend:

Panels 1 and 2:
http://www.patcave.com/dc2k6/dc2k6panser1.html

Panel 3 and the Shindig:
http://www.patcave.com/dc2k6/dc2k6panser2.html

Summer and Alan also show up in my Dragon*Con Convention Guest page:

http://www.patcave.com/dc2k6/dc2k6celebs.html



Those are very shiny photos, with great quality! They put a little sunshine in my cloudy day (I know, it's cliché, but still...)!

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Sunday, September 10, 2006 7:33 AM

KRAD


Quote:

Nobody has mentioned De Candido's about face. In earlier interviews about future books, he said that the ball was in Joss' court because he was sitting on several proposals. At D*C he says NDA. Are some of those proposals being considered as future film plots?


I did no such thing and am wondering what the heck you're talking about. The ball is still in Joss's court. I only mentioned the NDA in terms of talking about the movie between fall 2004 and when the movie was released.


Keith R.A. DeCandido
keith@decandido.net
www.DeCandido.net
kradical.livejournal.com

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Monday, September 11, 2006 10:19 PM

TEMPEST06


I don't know how anyone could miss the 'porn girls' or 'neecked chicks'. They seemed everywhere. Not being lesbian or a guy, I felt like legislating for equal time: or at least nearly naked guys with cute buns. Next year just look for the CruxShadows. There fans fit the nearly naked description: My brother and I kept running into one of them so often we started referring to her as 'longshanks' (she had on a thong and fishnets with her little cheeks to the wind.

"It's said that 'power corrupts,' but actually it's more that power attracts the corruptible. The sane are usually attracted by other things than power. When they do act, they think of it as service, which has limits. The tyrant, though, seeks mastery, for which he is insatiable, implacable." The Postman

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 5:45 AM

ENGINEANGEL


nice pics patman!!!!

Quote:

I don't know how anyone could miss the 'porn girls' or 'neecked chicks'. They seemed everywhere. Not being lesbian or a guy, I felt like legislating for equal time: or at least nearly naked guys with cute buns.


here here!! naked guys for everyone!! ....where's the poof?? i need something to go poof so the naked guys can arrive...


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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 6:07 AM

RIMGIRL


Quote:

Originally posted by KRAD:
Quote:

Nobody has mentioned De Candido's about face. In earlier interviews about future books, he said that the ball was in Joss' court because he was sitting on several proposals. At D*C he says NDA. Are some of those proposals being considered as future film plots?


I did no such thing and am wondering what the heck you're talking about. The ball is still in Joss's court. I only mentioned the NDA in terms of talking about the movie between fall 2004 and when the movie was released.


Keith R.A. DeCandido
keith@decandido.net
www.DeCandido.net
kradical.livejournal.com



Sorry, Mr. DeCandido, that was me. I wasn't at D*C and misinterpreted something that someone else had posted. Thanks for clarifying.

BTW, I really hope the proposals come through as I would really love some more of your Serenity books.
_______________________________________________

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong side.

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 6:14 AM

RIMGIRL


I'm sorry for Bad2's hurt. One of the things that I like about FFF.net is the courtesy and support that the Browncoats show to each other.

I really loved the posts/news from D*C. I really hope that this won't discourage others from posting Con news. It's a kindness for those of us who can't be there.

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 7:23 PM

PATMAN


Glad y'all enjoyed the photos. I had a good time taking them, and, of course, sharing them with other Browncoats!

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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:39 AM

HIPPIE


I don't know if it's already been brought up or not, but did anyone take a video of the panels at all..?

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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:53 AM

PATMAN


I suspect if video was uploaded, then it'd be on either youtube or google video.




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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:47 AM

WINDSTRUCK


I wish we had a transcript of this.
It's really fun to watch!!!

" - - - was taken from us suddenly and - - - - by Joss "the bastard" Whedon"
Hahahahaha!!!

Question guys: what did Alan say to Summer, when she raised her fist?

"Is it raining?"
"No, Reavers."


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Tuesday, September 19, 2006 4:21 PM

ENGINEANGEL


alan: "pitch a fit"

*summer raises fist*

alan: *imitates jayne* "girl's pitchin a fit mal"

hehe, he was making fun of when she fell down on lilac in serenity as the reavers attacked since people joked that it was reavers that were raining (it sounded like it was raining, so that's how that got started. in a room as big as that one was, it didn't quite sound like rain)


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Tuesday, September 19, 2006 7:34 PM

WINDSTRUCK


Was it really raining that time?
It was a really funny bit and the video was quite good.



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Tuesday, September 19, 2006 7:39 PM

ENGINEANGEL


I'm not sure, I think it was actually because when i got outside the ground was wet. I'm glad people taped some of the panels. i wish there'd be a whole vid of it though, cause it was really awesome. all of them were. kept laughing the whole way through


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