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POSTED BY: DEEPGIRL187
UPDATED: Monday, March 20, 2006 14:36
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Thursday, March 9, 2006 7:57 AM

DEEPGIRL187


I'm a little new to this site, so please excuse me if someone else has expressed sentiments similar to mine. And also please excuse my heated rambling, but this is starting to drive me insane.

Firefly is full of interesting and varied characters. It is a vivid and enthralling universe. So why in the gorram hell is it that people can only write about two characters?!! I've looked at so many Simon and Kaylee pairings it's pathetic. Now, mind, I don't have anything against those two characters, but it's not the only pairing that can be written about. And I'm not just going after this site, there's other's as well. I'm also not trying to diminish authors that do write about other parings (obsidiangirl and Ana, you guys rock). Just for once, though, I'd like to see a little variety.

I fully well expect to be flamed to a scorching crisp. My only hope is to encourage some more diversity among Firefly fic writers. So in parting, keep flying everyone.

P.S. I know I don't have a story of my own posted on any site. But then you wouldn't want to read the absolute crap I'm sure to post, then, would you?

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Thursday, March 9, 2006 8:06 AM

DAVEC5


Quote:

Originally posted by deepgirl187:
this is starting to drive me insane.



rave on girl!...i know what you mean. I don't read a lot of fanfic, but have noticed the same thing. Personally, i would like to have some stories about Mal and Zoe....there's gotta be some tight moments there. Or, how about Jayne going home to see his folks? looks up his old running buddies and raises holy hell for a few days...

with Kaylee /Simon...it's all about the sex...which is a good thing mind you...but it's a little played.....

and since you're fairly new here, let me say Welcome...post & post often...you can always look me up...i like a good rant....

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Thursday, March 9, 2006 8:20 AM

MAL4PREZ


I've only been around a few months, so I don't know the whole fanfic history, but it seems the Simon/Kaylee lots of sex thing is just recent. A while back it was a lot of Mal/Inara shipping.

The S/K folks are writing some really good stuff (I do love you guys and don't stop writing!), but I agree with deepgirl in that I wish there were more people writing Mal and the rest, and more story stories. NC17 can be fun, but when I need a few minutes to rest my brain at work, NC17 just ain't what I'm looking for!

Shameless self-plugging follows: I'm working on a fairly broad (as in all 9 BDHs) story, sequel to the Fish Job, but I have to write the whole gorram thing before I post. It's just how I am! I can't wait to share, but it'll still be a few weeks at least. grrr.

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Thursday, March 9, 2006 9:50 AM

VERA2529


Quote:

Originally posted by mal4prez:

Shameless self-plugging follows: I'm working on a fairly broad (as in all 9 BDHs) story, sequel to the Fish Job, but I have to write the whole gorram thing before I post. It's just how I am! I can't wait to share, but it'll still be a few weeks at least. grrr.



Yay!!! Sequel to Fish Job! And my Econ class will be over so I can beta read again!

On the S/K thing, I think its just the wave of fanfic. It will pass and then we'll all say, why aren't they about Simon and Kaylee.

I have a fun idea for Jayne if I ever get going, or get up enough confidence to post. Or if anyone wants to try a collaboration let me know.

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Thursday, March 9, 2006 10:08 AM

LEIASKY


Well, there are a lot of other pairings on the site. You just have to look for them. It would be nice to be able to search for stories based on specific characters you'd like to read about though. You can do that on fanfiction.net.

Some people prefer to write stories centered around favorite characters whose relationships were established in the series/movie.

I truly despise pairings like Jayne and Kaylee or River and ANYONE from the series. . . but I don't much often complain about it.

We all have our favorites. Don't like what's being posted, well, start writing your own :)


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Thursday, March 9, 2006 10:18 AM

AGENTROUKA



The thing is, people write about what inspires them. Can't be dictated.

And at the moment, the Simon/Kaylee shippers seem to be the most inspired. It's nobody's fault.

Mind you, I would prefer stories with a different focus, too, but it's not really something anyone has the right to be angry about.


Like Leiasky says, the only solution is to write something yourself. Or hope. :)


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Originally posted by mal4prez:

Shameless self-plugging follows: I'm working on a fairly broad (as in all 9 BDHs) story, sequel to the Fish Job, but I have to write the whole gorram thing before I post. It's just how I am! I can't wait to share, but it'll still be a few weeks at least. grrr.




That is SO good to hear!!! Can't wait! :D


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Thursday, March 9, 2006 10:51 AM

JAYNESBUNKWOMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by vera2529:
I have a fun idea for Jayne if I ever get going, or get up enough confidence to post. Or if anyone wants to try a collaboration let me know.



I have lots of ideas for Jayne - just have never done any kind of fic writing for eaons and wouldn't know where to start!!
And no, they don't involve any existng crew members but rather new and interesting characters...that could be recurring... or not....depending where I go with the ideas...

I'll be in Jaynes bunk

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Thursday, March 9, 2006 11:10 AM

NOSADSEVEN


Quote:

Originally posted by mal4prez:
Shameless self-plugging follows: I'm working on a fairly broad (as in all 9 BDHs) story, sequel to the Fish Job, but I have to write the whole gorram thing before I post. It's just how I am! I can't wait to share, but it'll still be a few weeks at least. grrr.


Wow, this is the best news I've heard in quite a while! Just a few weeks and there'll be a Fish Job sequel? Suh-weet. (BTW, I love that you wait until it's complete before you post. It's just how I am!)

But to the OP, the s/k flood is a recent trend. There's a whole lotta other stuff in the BSR - you just have to dig for it...

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Thursday, March 16, 2006 10:48 PM

CHOKAI


Quote:

The S/K folks are writing some really good stuff (I do love you guys and don't stop writing!), but I agree with deepgirl in that I wish there were more people writing Mal and the rest, and more story stories. NC17 can be fun, but when I need a few minutes to rest my brain at work, NC17 just ain't what I'm looking for


The recent trend towards NC17 would mirror what I saw with x-files fanfiction over time though as the series faded a bit *sniff*, especially the darker stuff. Not that I object, some of the best authors of x-files fanfiction wrote mostly R/NC17 MSR. But I think the biggest thing that Firefly fanfic has going against it is that the show didn't last long enough. The 'verse is not as well developed and you are somewhat limited in your cannon storytelling options. This hurts you since most people don't want to write novel length stories with proper character and plot development, so they really rely on the back story developed by the show and what thier readers know about it.

I hope if the comics and other canon material continue you'll see more balanced fics being written as people have more back story and such to work with.

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Thursday, March 16, 2006 11:10 PM

ARCADIA


Oh... I don't think its so much a Simon/Kaylee thing as Kaylee/EveryCharacterInTheVerse thing. She gets paired with everyone... but can you really blame people? She so gorram adorable.

I will agree that right now, Simon/Kaylee pairing seem to be in vouge. This is fine. They are inspiring a lot of great writing. Personally, my favorite couple is Mal/Inara, which is why I'm writing about them (taking a break from ch 6 right now). If you like Mal/Inara, you should definately read my story (*cheeks go red with embaressment after her shameless self-plug...which I guess means it wasn't quite shameless? Okay, maybe it was...*). Also, I would recommend Kaynara, Mal4Prez, and 2x2 if you are looking for good M/I fics, among many others (these are just the people I remember off the top of my head).

Also, as was suggested, you might just want to write your own fanfic. In never hurt anyone (*thinks about this more*). Well, you never think that it will hurt anyone, anyway...

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Thursday, March 16, 2006 11:37 PM

SHINYGEEKET


There have been a lot of Simon/Kaylee fics lately, and though I honestly don't mind (I'm hooked on many of the S/K series) I can see how this might be an issue for some. Though there aren't that many new ones being put out now, if you check the archives there are many fics centered around the other characters.
Kaynara's Strange Bedfellows, Bedlam, and Bed and Wine series are a great example of multi-character centered fan fiction. There is S/K pairing, but the predominant pairing is M/I (one of the best M/I pairings I've read). It's absolutly fantastic, you should give it a read.
Also, check out ManicGiraffe's Dinotales series if you want less couple-centric and more side-splitting hilarity.
And of course, you can always try your hand at writing your own stories. I've tried my own self, but quickly learned that I was never ment to write fanfic. At least not good fanfic

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Friday, March 17, 2006 3:06 AM

UKSOUTHBROWNCOAT


Hi there, my first post to the boards, been lurking and enjoying reading for a few months:-).

I've never really read any fan fic before so has anyone got a recommendation of a really good Firefly one to start me off with? Something with a real story, lots of humour and the BDH's just being themselves would be great.

Thanks if so!


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Friday, March 17, 2006 3:35 AM

CBY


Quote:

Originally posted by uksouthbrowncoat:
eally read any fan fic before so has anyone got a recommendation of a really good Firefly one to start me off with?



There is a thread here somewhere called "Recommendations for a PICKY reader" (or something like that) which could be a good starting point.

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Friday, March 17, 2006 4:42 AM

REYNOLDSSTYLE


Simon and River are my least favorite characters.

Yes...I love them all...but with 9 people you have to have at least one least favorite.

Who are yours? Please don't say you don't have one.

If you were to watch an episode and that person is barely in it and it didn't bother you...that is prolly your least favorite.


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Friday, March 17, 2006 5:50 AM

SULTEN


Duel post.


Jayne! The hero of Canton. I LOVE VERA!

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Friday, March 17, 2006 5:50 AM

SULTEN


I completely agree with DEEPGIRL187. I dont even bother reading fan fic anymore. the Kaylee/ Simon stuff seems to me to be a bunch of sex novel knock offs. Not for me.


Jayne! The hero of Canton. I LOVE VERA!

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Saturday, March 18, 2006 1:22 PM

CBY


Quote:

Originally posted by deepgirl187:
So why in the gorram hell is it that people can only write about two characters?!!



When you look at it from the exaggerating perspective of a non-fan, it comes down to this:

- Kaylee is basically a sex fixed prozac addict searching for someone whose life she can bright up
- Simon is the boring shy guy waiting for someone to bright his life up.

... perfect match, easy to write.

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Saturday, March 18, 2006 2:16 PM

LUCCIOLA


Mal4Prez has a new story coming? A sequel to The Fish Job? Oh, boy! As in, yippee!

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Monday, March 20, 2006 3:41 AM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by Lucciola:
Mal4Prez has a new story coming? A sequel to The Fish Job? Oh, boy! As in, yippee!





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Monday, March 20, 2006 8:24 AM

LUCCIOLA


Responds to with

I read pretty much all the fanfic. My fave raves by far are you, amdobell, kispexi2, hawkmoth, and a few others who create involving story lines, remain true to the characters (!!!), and write very, very well. And those novel length stories...yes! Can't help but think that a partnership between you and mphillips would make the perfect graphic novel. Wishful thinking?

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Monday, March 20, 2006 8:32 AM

GUENEVER


Quote:


[There is a thread here somewhere called "Recommendations for a PICKY reader" (or something like that) which could be a good starting point.



I posted on that thread a couple of times. It's awesome. I personally love anything by BookAddict; especially the 12 days of Christmas Series! I've been reading for a while, and have found that I really like the fics/ficlets that stay away from sexual pairings.

Hence the reason for my drabble (long, long drabble 12 chapters thus far); I've always found the idea of the character interactions the most interesting. How would people deal with a new person.


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Monday, March 20, 2006 11:30 AM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by Lucciola:
Can't help but think that a partnership between you and mphillips would make the perfect graphic novel. Wishful thinking?



In my wishes too! Wow do I love her stuff...

I requested a FJ scene with River and Mal (River hanging upside from his ladder with the light in her hair, that would look so cool!) but I don't want to harass mphillips - she must have a billion requests!

The sequel passed 50,000 words this weekend. Still a lot to go. I'm insane.

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Monday, March 20, 2006 1:19 PM

LUCCIOLA


Quote:

Originally posted by mal4prez:

The sequel passed 50,000 words this weekend. Still a lot to go. I'm insane.

Insane...but in a good way!

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Monday, March 20, 2006 1:24 PM

CBY


It's a pity these fanfic threads always turn into a pile of self-promotion...

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Monday, March 20, 2006 2:36 PM

LADYSERENITY


I have read some fanfics here and some on other fan sites including Fanfiction.com which has fanfics from movies books tv shows, it has its own Firefly section there too. I have been working on a story set in the 'Verse. I created a new character and from her point of view she crosses paths with Serenity and her crew. I am still working on it and it is not near finished. The parts I have down so far are as follows:
Liara Hawke's father was a Browncoat and both her father and her brother died in the war. She had been on her own for six years and had been picked up by slavers. She served as a galley cook and was a slave on someone's boat for two years. The story opens where she has escaped and made her way to Persephone and meets Zoe and Mal and Serenity. I have only started but she meets each character as Mal takes her around the ship. She doens't know it yet but Mal knew her father and helps her out because of something that happened during the war. Mal hires her on as a cook and she has some flight experience and went to flight school where Wash did. (by the way do we know the name of where he went to flight school and on what planet?) This is set pre-Serenity the movie. Some other moments are meeting Jayne. While she is exploring the cargo bay alone Jayne thinks she is up to no good and grabs her. Liara almost takes him down in a very humerous exchange that leaves Jayne mighty confused. I think she will have a crush on Mal and her and Kaylee hit it off right away. River knows things that the others don't (of course) about the newest crew member including who needs to find her and who wants her back. I am still introducing Liara to Serenity and her crew. I wonder where to post them on this site. I have never done a fanfic that others have read before, it all a little intimidating. What do you guys think should I post it? And where could I do so? It is far from finished but I could post it in pieces I suppose? I try to be original and I know the whole fugitive thing docking from Persephone isn't but... any suggestions


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