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Tuesday, April 26, 2005 2:03 PM
EST120
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Tuesday, April 26, 2005 3:55 PM
MALICIOUS
Tuesday, April 26, 2005 4:13 PM
CHRONICTHEHEDGEHOG
Tuesday, April 26, 2005 4:39 PM
SIKKUKUT
Tuesday, April 26, 2005 4:44 PM
WHITEFALL
Tuesday, April 26, 2005 5:23 PM
RHUTTNER
Quote:Originally posted by Whitefall: I think that perhaps book has something to do with the signal... Joss did say that there would be an interesting way of introducing the movie, so i think that's it... Book is talking to someone on a comm channel, and the whole thing is a transmission... or something like that "Some people juggle geese!" -Ancient Chinese proverb.
Tuesday, April 26, 2005 5:37 PM
MOOSHOO72
Tuesday, April 26, 2005 5:48 PM
ASTRAGYNIA
Quote: 5. again, someone asked this but why does it say "6 rebels"? i figure the main crew are considered the 6 but simon is basically a rebel too.
Tuesday, April 26, 2005 5:53 PM
MANWITHPEZ
Important people don't do field work.
Tuesday, April 26, 2005 5:58 PM
TOMANTA
Quote:Originally posted by Astragynia: Quote: 5. again, someone asked this but why does it say "6 rebels"? i figure the main crew are considered the 6 but simon is basically a rebel too. I wondered about that too, but then I thought - who actually is a rebel, and who's just on the ship for other reasons? By my count, the six are: 1. Mal (Browncoat). 2. Zoe (Browncoat). 3. River (escapee wanted by Alliance). 4. Simon ("criminal" wanted by Alliance). 5. Jayne (anti-social mercenary working for a Browncoat, criminal, has probably killed a couple of Purplebellies). 6. ummm... Wash? (Married to a rebel?) Inara supported unification and is just renting the shuttle, Kaylee's had no trouble with the Allianc - and she's too sweet to be called a "rebel" even if she may legally be arrest-able because of being on the crew, and Book (as far as we know) is just a passenger with no history of making trouble with the alliance. Number six could be Book instead of Wash, or something happens in the movie to turn somebody into a "rebel" who wouldn't otherwise be on the list. (Edit) Besides, I think they just didn't want to have Kaylee, Book, or (for the most part) Inara in the trailer 'cause they're not "action" enough.
Tuesday, April 26, 2005 6:19 PM
ALIENZOOKEEPER
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:43 AM
Quote:Originally posted by mooshoo72: Select to view spoiler: 6.) My wild speculation about the reavers is that they are in league WITH the Alliance.. Tho I'm not sure why that would make sense, but it sure would be a nifty twist! :)
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 2:38 AM
STATIC
Quote:Originally posted by est120: i feel it is pretty clear that serenity is involved in this big battle on the side of the reavers. of course, it is possible that mal is not really in control of the ship at the time but that is a stretch. one interesting note. if you look closely, there is a clip that shows a bunch of ships moving towards the camera. serenity is in the middle and if you look to the left and just below serenity, you can see the reaver ship with the magnetic grappler that they all escape from in the pilot. pretty sweet evidence that mal takes the reaver's side against the alliance.
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 2:47 AM
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 2:50 AM
RELFEXIVE
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:20 AM
PHOEBE
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:58 AM
DTUCK
Quote:Originally posted by est120: 1. what do you think the end means? "you can't escape the signal"?
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 4:10 AM
NICOLACLARKE
Quote:Originally posted by RelFexive: > Simon in uniform could be a different rescue rather than River's original one. But then, we don't know the exact circumstances of her original escape and how Simon was involved. The fact that the Feds were after him suggests they knew it was him by more than the fact that he was absent after she escaped.
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 7:29 AM
Quote:Originally posted by NicolaClarke: Quote:Originally posted by RelFexive: > Simon in uniform could be a different rescue rather than River's original one. But then, we don't know the exact circumstances of her original escape and how Simon was involved. The fact that the Feds were after him suggests they knew it was him by more than the fact that he was absent after she escaped. Speculationy musing. If River is the signal, or contains the signal in her brain, whatever that may be... what if the Alliance purposefully allowed her to slip away? What if they're chasing her to drive her towards where she needs to be to do the most damage to the Alliance's few remaining enemies? Simon's speech in the trailer about how he sprung River always bothered me. "I was contacted by some men, some underground organisation..." sounded a little too pat and easy - like a rather unspecific plot device. Did Simon really not try to find out who they were before he trusted them with his and his sister's lives? And if the alliance was manufacturing psychic super-killers, they must have had some fairly serious security measures in place - to stop the kids from accidentally tearing up the place, and to stop anyone else from seeing in. So... what if Simon was allowed to believe he'd snatched River away, when in truth she was sent? Alternatively, someone high up in the Alliance went rogue, and her escape was planned by them (Book?). Because either Simon's "men" were pretty damn special, or it must have been an inside job of some sort.
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 7:45 AM
Quote:Originally posted by DTuck: "You can't stop the signal" I was under the impression, from the very first viewing of the trailer, that it was refering to the 'red button' (from OOG) that the cast & crew gave Joss when Firefly was cancelled. They said something to the effect of "If you manage to get the project off the ground, hit that button, and we'll come a' runnin, no matter what." Of course, it may have something to do with the plotline of the movie, I dunno :)
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 8:10 AM
BISCUIT
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 8:57 AM
Quote:Originally posted by rhuttner: You are the first person (at least the first one that I've read) to come close to sharing a theory I've had since War Stories aired. Nice to know I'm not alone.
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:20 AM
Quote:Originally posted by NicolaClarke: I was struck anew by River's line when she's shooting Niska's henchmen near the end: "Don't look, don't look." A mantra learned during training, I assume. She isn't just doing the maths... she's following the procedures planted in her brain.
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:27 AM
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:30 AM
HOTHERSALE
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:32 AM
WHOISRIVER
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:27 AM
HOWDYROCKERBABY1
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:47 AM
Quote:Originally posted by howdyrockerbaby1: perhaps, being the relatively honest man that he is, Simon swore that he would not reveal who the men were, and is keeping his promise?
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 11:19 AM
ZOID
Quote:i feel it is pretty clear that serenity is involved in this big battle on the side of the reavers. of course, it is possible that mal is not really in control of the ship at the time but that is a stretch. one interesting note. if you look closely, there is a clip that shows a bunch of ships moving towards the camera. serenity is in the middle and if you look to the left and just below serenity, you can see the reaver ship with the magnetic grappler that they all escape from in the pilot. pretty sweet evidence that mal takes the reaver's side against the alliance.
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 11:24 AM
SOJOURNER
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 11:31 AM
Quote: Originally posted by NicolaClarke: Quote: Originally posted by RelFexive: > Simon in uniform could be a different rescue rather than River's original one. But then, we don't know the exact circumstances of her original escape and how Simon was involved. The fact that the Feds were after him suggests they knew it was him by more than the fact that he was absent after she escaped. Speculationy musing. If River is the signal, or contains the signal in her brain, whatever that may be... what if the Alliance purposefully allowed her to slip away? What if they're chasing her to drive her towards where she needs to be to do the most damage to the Alliance's few remaining enemies? Simon's speech in the trailer about how he sprung River always bothered me. "I was contacted by some men, some underground organisation..." sounded a little too pat and easy - like a rather unspecific plot device. Did Simon really not try to find out who they were before he trusted them with his and his sister's lives? And if the alliance was manufacturing psychic super-killers, they must have had some fairly serious security measures in place - to stop the kids from accidentally tearing up the place, and to stop anyone else from seeing in. So... what if Simon was allowed to believe he'd snatched River away, when in truth she was sent? Alternatively, someone high up in the Alliance went rogue, and her escape was planned by them (Book?). Because either Simon's "men" were pretty damn special, or it must have been an inside job of some sort. You are the first person (at least the first one that I've read) to come close to sharing a theory I've had since War Stories aired. Nice to know I'm not alone.
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 11:59 AM
Quote:Originally posted by zoid: heading straight toward an Alliance armada/blockade fleet.
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:06 PM
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:45 PM
SAMURAIX47
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 5:39 PM
BADGERSHAT
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 6:14 PM
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 6:16 PM
GUNRUNNER
Quote:Originally posted by SamuraiX47: Did anyone notice that Wash isn't wearing any of his usual attire from the series... the trailer and other photos show him more in a flight jumpsuit... Is this for the masses who can't tell who the pilot is unless he's wearing a flight jumpsuit? I think it takes away from Wash's character that he's not dressed in aloha attire. Jaymes
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 8:12 PM
SANNA
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Sanna: i must have missed the 'shoutout to fans' in the trailer : xxx... *sad*
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 11:48 PM
Quote:Originally posted by zoid: Well, it's a pretty theory. Care to explain why the trailer indicates that an assassin has been dispatched to retrieve her -- killing everything in his way to do so -- and has a scene from an Alliance capital ship's bridge while the overlay dialogue says that the Alliance will stop at nothing to get her back? Why let her go and then spend so much time and effort trying to get her back? Maybe, but I don't think so...
Thursday, April 28, 2005 12:34 AM
BARNEYT
Thursday, April 28, 2005 1:08 AM
PSYCHICRIVER
Thursday, April 28, 2005 1:11 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Tomanta: Overanalyzing. River is "A passenger with a past."
Thursday, April 28, 2005 1:17 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Static: Mal, knowing that he can't fight the Reavers OR the Alliance in a head-on fight. . .and CERTAINLY not BOTH, he decides that perhaps warning the Alliance of the Reavers or somesuch plan as that will get the heat off him for the sake of River. I get the distinct impression from the trailer that Mal has become very devoted to keeping her safe.
Thursday, April 28, 2005 1:21 AM
Quote:Originally posted by RelFexive: So I reckon the last non-rebel must be Book, since he seems to be the only one not hiding/running away from something.
Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:13 AM
Quote:Originally posted by PsychicRiver: Quote:Originally posted by RelFexive: So I reckon the last non-rebel must be Book, since he seems to be the only one not hiding/running away from something. As far as we know...
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