Been thinkin' too much again...Lunatic Theroy #4 by Sensou

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Been thinkin' too much again...Lunatic Theroy #4

POSTED BY: SENSOU
UPDATED: Sunday, January 26, 2003 14:03
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Monday, January 13, 2003 6:03 PM

It's finals week, so my brain has kicked into overdrive. And I do mean overdrive. I've been seein' patterns in everthing. Like Firefly and Lord of the Rings. So, make a long story short (too late), I came to the conclusion that Firefly is an AU of Lord of the Rings.
It started when I realized Zoe shared a overly-large number of characteristics with Gimli. Then, I noticed that Mal and Aragorn seem to share a hell of a lot of strengths and weaknesses. Book's sense of humor and somewhat grandfatherly-yet-really-really-cool demeanor recall Gandalf, while Jayne's loyal-to-the-crew-but-not-River attitude could be shared by no-one else but Boromir (and wasn't he supposed to die?) River of course is Frodo because, well, they're crazy people. But they are also both taken care of and somewhat protected by Simon and Sam respectivly, who have things in common beyond caring for crazy people. The ever-cheerful Kaylee has to be Pippin, and the dignified-while-being-extremely-shiny Inara is the kick-@$$-even-though-he-looks-like-a-girl Legolas (And then there's the whole Legolas is a whore thing, but let's not get into that.) Wash is Merry because...okay, because I forgot about Merry and Wash was the guy that was left over, but they still have the knack of staying in the background, being forgotten, doing nothing, then stepping up when it comes down to the wire and doing what counts.
It doesn't stop with the Fellowship and the crew. Niske's almost-pathetic evil is very much like Saruman's schemes that are tiny next to Sauron's, but still a big deal to the rest of the world. The Reaver's corruptions resembles the corruption of the elves to make Orcs, and the Blue Hands track River with the intensity of the Nazgul after Frodo.
Now, there is much evidence to support this theroy, but I do belive this post is long enough. So, am I on to something here, or should they be calling the little people in white coats to take me away to the pretty place with the pinky-purple walls the exact color of Prozac?

Sensou
Will

Sweet is love when all is sane
Sweet is death to end the pain
Cruel is death when all is well
Cruel is love when all is hell

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Monday, January 13, 2003 6:38 PM

LIVINGIMPAIRED

Depends. What color is Prozac?

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Spike: “Well, yes. Where've you been all night?

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Tuesday, January 14, 2003 5:46 AM

SARAHETC

Prozac, if I remember correctly is yellow and green. :)

Wash could be Merry. Merry was the one who killed the chief of the Nazgul at the end, right? I was reading so fast by that time I get a little confused. Anyway, Merry just screwed around and had fun and stuff until the time came for the real work and then whammo. Wash could be Merry.

Or I could be on dope.

Similarly, and I'm not hijacking your thread, really, but do you see the resemblances between Firefly and Steven King's Dark Tower series?

Sure, the characters don't all line up, but the high-tech-old-west feel is definitely there. Mal could definitely be The Gunslinger. The Alliance all dress in gray, and you know black-gray whatever. There's the "frontier religion" aspect and the drawing together of characters that complete Roland's psyche and self.

Or. I could be on dope.

Sarah

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Tuesday, January 14, 2003 5:52 AM

LIVINGIMPAIRED

No it was wazhername, Rohan Chic, that killed the head Nazgul.... Although, now that I think about that, one of the hobbiteses might have helped her.

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Looks like The First made another Sacrifice. Or a music video

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Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:15 AM

SENSOU

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Originally posted by LivingImpaired:
No it was wazhername, Rohan Chic, that killed the head Nazgul.... Although, now that I think about that, one of the hobbiteses might have helped her.

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Looks like The First made another Sacrifice. Or a music video

Eowyn, Lady of Rohan actually dealt the killing blow, but Merry stabbed him in the back of the knee as the Nazgul was about to kill her. The Nazgul went down, bringing his head more or less level with her sword, and she got him in the throat. So yes, Eowyn killed the Witch-King, but she couldn't have done it without Merry.

Sensou
Sweet is love when all is sane
Sweet is death to end the pain
Cruel is death when all is well
Cruel is love when all is hell

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Tuesday, January 14, 2003 5:42 PM

SARAHETC

Thank you!

Still, none of y'all are seeing The Gunslinger connection?

Sarah

Must. Get. Tagline.

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Tuesday, January 14, 2003 5:44 PM

MRGREEN

You can say this for just about any two works of fiction, of any medium. There are only so many character archeotypes and you can clump pretty much any fictional person into one of them. You could probably make a good comparison of FF and the Young and the Restless or some other drivel, if you were so inclined.

Rob

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Friday, January 24, 2003 3:51 PM

TYLOR

Hmm, I think what is resonating with you is the fact that both Lord of the Rings and Firefly are anti-power. The main theme in Lord of the Rings is that power is evil and even those who want to use power to do good will be corrupted by it. The ring is symbolic of power.

In both stories, you have relatively weak people (physically and magically/technologically), the hobbits, even the Fellowship, and Mal and company, fighting against an overwhelmingly powerful force. Of course, no one wants to do this, so everyone is sort of dragged into it. (Serenity's crew has no more choice about fighting the Feds than the free people of Middle Earth have about fighting Mordor and Isengard. If Jayne had successfully turned River over to the Feds, his likely reward, and the reward of the rest of Serenity's crew, would have been to have his brain melted. The same thing if the Feds catch up with them. Of course, they don't realize it yet, sort of like when Frodo thought he could leave the Ring with the elves and go home, until he realized what that would mean for the future of the Shire.)

However, it appears to me that in Firefly, there is nothing to equate to the One Ring. I could be wrong, but the temptation that is present in Firefly is more venal (selling River out to the Feds) rather than the chance for Mal or one of his crew to rule themselves. Well, it might develop that River could have to face that temptation, with her ominous "no power in the universe can stop me," but that story would have to develop more.

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Saturday, January 25, 2003 11:21 AM

SENSOU

What if...River is the "One Ring?" Someone using her powers could easliy take over, but, like the Ring, they would have to know how to use her, with drugs or threats or coercion. Mal and his crew do not have (or know that they have) the means to control her, nor do they have the motive to use her to gain power. Like the people of Middle Earth, they are trying to keep her out of Alliance hands more out of fear of the power the Alliance would gain than to use her as a weapon against the Allliance.

Sensou
The difference betwwen sports fans and sci-fi fans is that sci-fi fans have never trashed a train, booed Canada, or torn a man apart limb from limb.

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Sunday, January 26, 2003 2:03 PM

ROBERTSPARLING

I really see no connection, at all between LOTR and Firefly, aside from some invariably generic characteristics (Mal and Aragorn's heroism, etc. blah blah blah).

You've got waaaay too much time on your hands man. Take a pottery class or something ("Serenity's got more than a few ceramic parts in her...).

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