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Serenity: Leaves on the Wind #3 Discussion (SPOILERS)
Thursday, March 27, 2014 6:20 PM
MUTT999
Thursday, March 27, 2014 6:44 PM
WISHIMAY
Thursday, March 27, 2014 8:43 PM
MOOSE
Friday, March 28, 2014 12:54 AM
GWEK
Friday, March 28, 2014 9:05 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Friday, March 28, 2014 9:35 AM
Quote:Originally posted by GWEK: I couldn't help but think that it was pretty out-of-character. She just doesn't have that steel in her spine, at least not that we've seen.
Friday, March 28, 2014 12:05 PM
Friday, March 28, 2014 2:13 PM
Saturday, March 29, 2014 1:26 PM
M52NICKERSON
DALEK!
Saturday, March 29, 2014 1:35 PM
SUASOR
Saturday, March 29, 2014 10:13 PM
Sunday, March 30, 2014 1:18 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Wishimay: You saying a woman can't be stealthy and hit a man who has just been distracted by tea over the head witha wrench? Wow, do you have a low opinion of women... P.S. I've got a whole drawer of my own damn wrenches if y'all wanna test that theory Also, I'd imagine there ain't a whole lotta places in the 'verse that offer the kind of solitude a man that just realized he'd been killing the wrong people his ENTIRE career could offer. Sure it's a stretch, but we know by now Mal's got some mad skills up his sleeve. If it was book form or movie form, I'm sure we'd get a long winded explanation, and we may still yet, but not a whole lotta time in 20 pages of comic....
Sunday, March 30, 2014 11:08 AM
Quote:Originally posted by m52nickerson: The scene with Early in the chair afterwords does not suit Kaylee either.
Sunday, March 30, 2014 2:10 PM
Quote:Originally posted by m52nickerson: Quote:Originally posted by Wishimay: You saying a woman can't be stealthy and hit a man who has just been distracted by tea over the head witha wrench? Wow, do you have a low opinion of women... P.S. I've got a whole drawer of my own damn wrenches if y'all wanna test that theory Also, I'd imagine there ain't a whole lotta places in the 'verse that offer the kind of solitude a man that just realized he'd been killing the wrong people his ENTIRE career could offer. Sure it's a stretch, but we know by now Mal's got some mad skills up his sleeve. If it was book form or movie form, I'm sure we'd get a long winded explanation, and we may still yet, but not a whole lotta time in 20 pages of comic.... No. I'm not saying a women can't stealthy and hit a man with a wrench. It has nothing to do with Kaylee being a women. It has to do with Kaylee being Kaylee and Early being whom he is. Had it been Zoe or River, or even perhaps Inara it would have been believable. Not so much with Kaylee. More so when we has seen that Early apparently has the skills to take out large numbers of people at will. Plus if you go back you will see that Early was not distracted by a cup of tea. The scene with Early in the chair afterwords does not suit Kaylee either. Now perhaps we will get an explanation on how Mal knew were the Operative was in the next chapter. If does not have to be but a few lines. Having limited pages is not an excuse for piss poor writing. I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
Sunday, March 30, 2014 2:58 PM
ROCKETJOCK
Quote:Originally posted by GWEK: I thought we got to see an interesting side of Jayne, although it was borderline out-of-character.
Sunday, March 30, 2014 7:06 PM
Monday, March 31, 2014 3:31 PM
MIKER
Once I found Serenity
Monday, March 31, 2014 5:49 PM
Quote:Originally posted by MIKER: Kaylee has a lot of stones and is very smart. She played a major part in planning the heist of the laser gun. She is well aware Serenity operates outside the law and the risk of that. Miker
Tuesday, April 1, 2014 8:08 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Wishimay: Quote:Originally posted by m52nickerson: The scene with Early in the chair afterwords does not suit Kaylee either. I'm sorry you don't see Kaylee having stones (is it that she likes dresses???). As a woman who has worked in an all male field before, lemme assure you, she does. I'm sure she would have had to take a lotta crap, from guys AND other women just to be able to do what she wants... I'm sure she just didn't have occasion to USE her stones before. And she was just a second ahead of him, so yanno, sometimes you do just get to be in the right place at the right time... ...And really, the thing you have a problem with is THAT? That a sweet girl did something to a guy that threatened to rape her??? I guess I just don't get why THAT is sucha stretch...
Tuesday, April 1, 2014 9:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by M52NICKERSON: Tricking him into touching a door or panel she had electrified, fining a way to trap him in a room while she evacts the air until he passes out, and a bunch of other way Kaylee could have beat Early and still been in character. Kaylee threatening Early after is even worse. Kaylee is a nice person and I don't think she has that in her. For different reason I cannot see Mal threatening to torture anyone either. I can see him threating to shoot someone if they did not tell him what he wanted, but not torture them.
Tuesday, April 1, 2014 10:38 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Wishimay: IN THE TWO MINUTES HE WAS ON THE SHIP???? Are you delusional??? Maybe if she knew he was coming, but not in that length of time... She had to think fast. And in what book is it written that generally nice people are not capable or do not commit violence? I can show you a whole buncha articles of young girls even younger than her picking up a gun and shooting intruders, beating people for lesser offences, and this is certainly no different. Like I said, I still think she's messing with him... Anticipation of torture can be worse for some and we never see her touch him, do we? Just wait for the next one before you go judging... Still, I wouldn't blame her one bit if she did beat the shit out of him, either way... Here, I'll help. Hand me a clamp
Tuesday, April 1, 2014 2:02 PM
BYTEMITE
Tuesday, April 1, 2014 2:37 PM
Tuesday, April 1, 2014 3:24 PM
Tuesday, April 1, 2014 4:45 PM
Quote:Originally posted by BYTEMITE: Sounds to me your problem isn't really about Kaylee's characterization, more Jubal's. But in Objects in Space, wasn't Jubal's downfall there that he was trying to be all that and more, this scary unpredictable guy in body armor the color of blood, that he had cased them all and knew all their limitations and they couldn't beat him? But really he was just another mercenary psycho with nasty childhood tendencies who liked intimidating people into giving him power over them and thought too much of himself. And being a psychopath doesn't make him unstoppable or invincible. It doesn't make him prescient. He's a bounty hunter, what training he has consists of the life he's had - and one time a little man who loved fire got the best of him. So can River. So can Kaylee.
Tuesday, April 1, 2014 4:51 PM
Quote: I don't think Kaylee given the situation present would choose to sneak up and hit Early.
Quote: Not to mention that we look to be headed to having a small army of Rivers. Gee, a group of young girls who are able to kick a large amount of ass, never seen that before.
Wednesday, April 2, 2014 7:29 AM
Quote:Originally posted by BYTEMITE: So instead of knocking out a threat straight away, you think Kaylee should have used the window of time she had to come up with a complicated zany scheme with mechanical engineering components. This instead of doing something that would probably be more immediate and reactive and instinctive for her. And you think we should have spent a lot more time with the crew getting taken out one by one again by a minor one time villain that they'd dealt with before, instead of nipping the problem in the bud right away and giving the character who had been most affected by that same antagonist some closure.
Quote: You really thought there weren't going to be others?
Wednesday, April 2, 2014 2:24 PM
Sunday, December 19, 2021 2:14 PM
THG
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by MIKER: Kaylee has a lot of stones and is very smart. She played a major part in planning the heist of the laser gun. She is well aware Serenity operates outside the law and the risk of that. Miker Kaylee goes ninja on a killer robot in Serenity Better Days #1, March 2008 The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly]
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