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Maybe we, the collective fans, could buy the rights to Firefly from FOX
Thursday, April 3, 2008 8:27 PM
PENTHOS
Thursday, April 3, 2008 9:27 PM
OUT2THEBLACK
Quote:Originally posted by Penthos: I know this sounds a little nuts and perhaps even impossible... Suppose there are 250,000 fans around the world who would put up $50 each. That's 12.5 Million Dollars. Would FOX give up whatever rights they are holding on to for that? ...Anyway, that's my Big Damn Idea. I've been thinking about for 3 days now and I had to get it out.
Friday, April 4, 2008 12:40 AM
SMOKEFATHER
Friday, April 4, 2008 3:20 AM
JONGSSTRAW
Friday, April 4, 2008 4:07 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: Who would have access and control over that money? Who would act as negotiator with Fox? How would that person be selected and why? That type of money requires fiduciary oversight and management. A corporation or LLC company would have to be created and licensed. It gets even more complicated...ultimately best to leave it to Hollywood to figure it out one day....unless some individual multi-millionnaire steps up to assume the stewardship.
Friday, April 4, 2008 4:21 AM
Quote:Originally posted by out2theblack: 3. Maybe there is a loophole because the F-Network owns 'broadcast TV' rights to Firefly , but not rights in another medium like a Premium Cable channel , a Mini-Series , Direct-To-DVD movies , or Internet distribution .
Quote:Originally posted by out2theblack: Anyways , every few months (or, weeks !) a new iteration of the " Let's buy the Rights and Finance Our Own Firefly " scenario comes to a fan site near you...That just means we all love Firefly...A LOT ! It's getting to be almost as common as the 'Nigerian Scam' , not that the Finance Firefly movement is a bad thing...
Friday, April 4, 2008 6:45 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Penthos: Quote:Originally posted by out2theblack: 3. Maybe there is a loophole because the F-Network owns 'broadcast TV' rights to Firefly , but not rights in another medium like a Premium Cable channel , a Mini-Series , Direct-To-DVD movies , or Internet distribution . From what I have read, FOX owns the rights to future Firefly DVD sales. That's the main reason you wouldn't see SciFi\Universal do a direct to DVD movie. Quote:Originally posted by out2theblack: Anyways , every few months (or, weeks !) a new iteration of the " Let's buy the Rights and Finance Our Own Firefly " scenario comes to a fan site near you...That just means we all love Firefly...A LOT ! -Ok this I didn't know... I guess because I have only been posting here a few weeks... But if that's so maybe I need to get with some of the other people who have thought the same thing because I'm just not "convinced" that it's not possible.
Quote:Originally posted by out2theblack: Anyways , every few months (or, weeks !) a new iteration of the " Let's buy the Rights and Finance Our Own Firefly " scenario comes to a fan site near you...That just means we all love Firefly...A LOT !
Friday, April 4, 2008 7:32 AM
Friday, April 4, 2008 12:34 PM
MISSTRESSAHARA
Friday, April 4, 2008 12:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Misstressahara: Every once in a while some new fans show up and make this proposal, and everytime it's proven it can't be done, because it's been tried, especially by one persn who's name escapes me. You aren't the first one to suggest this and you won't be the last. I applaud you your enthusiasm for the show but the facts are this is an impossibility. Look up the old threads to see for yourself. Nice dream, but don't expect much.
Friday, April 4, 2008 1:41 PM
NCBROWNCOAT
Quote:Originally posted by out2theblack: Quote:Originally posted by Misstressahara: Every once in a while some new fans show up and make this proposal, and everytime it's proven it can't be done, because it's been tried, especially by one persn who's name escapes me. You aren't the first one to suggest this and you won't be the last. I applaud you your enthusiasm for the show but the facts are this is an impossibility. Look up the old threads to see for yourself. Nice dream, but don't expect much. Don't sweat it , Missy ! ALL Browncoats are ALLOWED to Dream , especially the SHINY ! New Folk... We've done the 'Impossible' before , and there's still room for us to Rise Again... It's the Ruttin' New Folk that'll tip the balance in our favor...Then the 'neigh-sayers' will be right there , sayin' , " See , I TOLD You So ! , We're Just TOO Pretty for God to let us die..." It's harmless diversion , AND Wacky Fun !
Friday, April 4, 2008 10:32 PM
Saturday, April 5, 2008 12:33 AM
ANONYMOUS1
Monday, April 7, 2008 3:50 AM
AGATSU
Monday, April 7, 2008 2:48 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Agatsu: I guess it would be theoretically possible for Joss to start a SereniFly fund that we could (and damn sure WOULD) donate insane amounts of money to, but how would that make him look in Hollywood, "begging" for money from his fans so he can do his own stuff? Personally, I would consider that scenario to be exceptionally shiny, and gladly donate, but I figure it would stir up a lot of sh*t in the business. Which could of course be a good thing, but Hollywood is scared of new things.
Monday, April 7, 2008 3:50 PM
MEIMEICOBB
Quote:Originally posted by out2theblack: " See , I TOLD You So ! , We're Just TOO Pretty for God to let us die..." It's harmless diversion , AND Wacky Fun!
Monday, April 7, 2008 7:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by meimeiCobb: Quote:Originally posted by out2theblack: " See , I TOLD You So ! , We're Just TOO Pretty for God to let us die..." It's harmless diversion , AND Wacky Fun!
Tuesday, April 8, 2008 7:19 AM
TYRANTKILLER
Tuesday, April 8, 2008 7:46 AM
PDCHARLES
What happened? He see your face?
Quote:Originally posted by Penthos: But if that's so maybe I need to get with some of the other people who have thought the same thing because I'm just not "convinced" that it's not possible.
Tuesday, April 8, 2008 10:04 AM
Quote:Originally posted by out2theblack: Quote:Originally posted by meimeiCobb: Quote:Originally posted by out2theblack: " See , I TOLD You So ! , We're Just TOO Pretty for God to let us die..." It's harmless diversion , AND Wacky Fun! "Look at that chiseled jaw, huh?" I think that while feasible it wouldn't be wise.
Friday, April 11, 2008 5:08 PM
Quote:Originally posted by pdcharles: Do a google search for "Ace Underhill". U don't even have to type "Firefly" in there. You'll see the biggest attempt I know of. A huge stink was raised, articles were written, interviews were done, Joss was contacted. ...and on and on and on and on... Speaking of dood, anynone remember the live chat "Q&A" session he held. Hi-larious. Dood even has an IMDB listing now, so contacting him may be doable. Maybe he can shed some light on the obstacles and pains delving into this project can lead to.
Saturday, April 12, 2008 4:14 AM
MAKTON
Quote:Originally posted by Penthos: Quote:Originally posted by pdcharles: Do a google search for "Ace Underhill". U don't even have to type "Firefly" in there. You'll see the biggest attempt I know of. A huge stink was raised, articles were written, interviews were done, Joss was contacted. ...and on and on and on and on... Speaking of dood, anynone remember the live chat "Q&A" session he held. Hi-larious. Dood even has an IMDB listing now, so contacting him may be doable. Maybe he can shed some light on the obstacles and pains delving into this project can lead to. Ok, I am so glad that you posted this because what Ace was trying to do is completely different from what I had in mind... Ace wanted to own the rights and produce the show on the internet with his own production company or whatever... I wouldn't want the fans to own the rights. No way! My thought was that if we could obtain the rights from Fox we would immediately give them to Joss\Mutant Enemy... With the rights secured from Fox I believe that Joss would be able to get another Network to buy new episodes or direct-to-DVD movies just for the DVD sales revenue. It would be easier if Joss knew how much money he needed to get the rights from Fox. Then he could put a donate button on Whedonesque.com and probably have the money within a year...
Sunday, April 13, 2008 1:15 PM
Sunday, April 13, 2008 4:22 PM
BIGGESTDAMNHERO
Sunday, April 13, 2008 7:12 PM
Monday, April 14, 2008 1:42 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Anonymous1: The Enterprise show fans raised like a million or so dollars and then things went bad. makton, It is the fans raising money to TELL the Hollywood studios what to do that is scary to Hollywood. They do not want fans to tell them what to do. They do not want Directors to tell them what to do. They do not want writers to tell them what to do. They do not want actors to tell them what to do. We do not want to scare Hollywood away from Joss and the actors. Joss is experimenting outside the Hollywood studio system with Doctor Horrible's Sing-Along Blog. But at the same time, he is working within the studio system with Dollhouse. And all the actors are working within the studio system except for Nathan working with Joss on Doctor Horrible. Nathan has been in some independent films like Waitress and Trucker. Fox Searchlight picked up Waitress. So that is still in the studio system. WHATEVER YOU DO DO NOT RUIN THINGS FOR JOSS AND THE ACTORS.
Monday, April 14, 2008 4:06 PM
Quote:Originally posted by makton: It would be nice if you would explain how things went bad.
Quote:Originally posted by makton: The idea is not as much the money as showing the amount to people wanting the show back.
Tuesday, April 15, 2008 3:29 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Anonymous1: When you are researching, could you find out how much it would cost to build a Serenity ship movie production set. In LA. And keep open for a couple of years. You know for web-episodes, weddings, shindigs, etc.
Tuesday, April 15, 2008 12:22 PM
TALIE
Tuesday, April 15, 2008 3:30 PM
Wednesday, April 16, 2008 3:06 AM
Quote:It was made clear to me that a decision maker would react badly to fan's money being involved in the production no matter how it was presented.
Wednesday, April 16, 2008 3:35 AM
BIGAL77
Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:23 AM
Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:47 AM
Wednesday, April 16, 2008 11:07 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Talie: whether you keep the rights or give them to Joss - Joss is still going to feel like he has to keep the people who donated happy - regardless of who actually owns it, I think that's the problem - I wish I could remember where I read about his comments to that effect - it would probably express more clearly what I'm trying to say but can't remember the details of. I admire your efforts, really I do - and I'm not one of those ppl that goes around saying give up it'll never happen - in fact - though i probaly shouldn't admit it pubically - I'm the one responsible for posting videoos of Alan and Jewel giving renewed hope by saying they themselves are still hopeful for a sequel to the BDM and I know their words aren't going to change anything, but I've seen the way they renewed people's hopes, and THATs why I posted them, too many people giving up ... I do get where you're coming from, but I don't think that it's the plan that is going to work .... I'll keep trying to find that post....
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