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Serenity & Macbeth (spoilers)

POSTED BY: JUSTSHINY
UPDATED: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 20:52
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Tuesday, February 14, 2006 6:51 PM

JUSTSHINY


I watched Serenity again with my friend the other day and were struck by a weird revelation...or we could just be crazy. That's for ya'll to decide.

We blame AP English Classes and Macbeth.

Ok, here goes:

When the crew of Serenity is going to go through reaver space they mention it being near the Birnam quadrant, or in the Birnam quadrant, too tired to check. So, (and I know you all know the story, and if you don't you shouldn't be reading anymore) Malcolm, and his crew decide to cross through Reaver space to get to Miranda, and hopefully find something of importance (who knows, it could help stop the Alliance). However, they can't just go through looking not like Reavers, so they dress the ship up. And move through a forest of Reaver ships which they resemble, but don't completely match.

In Macbeth, *Malcolm* (but I doubt there's a tie there...) and his crew (army folk) have to get back to Scotland to take down Macbeth (Alliance?) who has been killin' people and being evil-like. So, Malcolm and his army cut small branches from the trees in *Birnam* wood, so they can resemble the trees as they pass through to Scotland. Of course the men aren't really trees, but they resemble them.

Our teacher kept saying Shakespeare has an influence on everything...weird, no?

Please tell me I'm not crazy.




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Tuesday, February 14, 2006 8:45 PM

RHYIANAN


Want more shakespeare? Miranda is named after a character in "The Tempest"

Wash: Yeah, but psychic? That sounds like science fiction.
Zoe: You live on a spaceship, dear.

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Tuesday, February 14, 2006 8:52 PM

MINIME



You are not crazy.

I am not crazy.

That's a good start.

I hadn't picked that, and after reading your post I went to the Visual Companion to check the name of the quadrant (not that I don't believe you!); it's in the script as the 'Burnham' quadrant.

So, who knows? We know there is a Shakespeare reference to 'The Tempest' in Miranda. There is another post up about the similarities between Ophelia and River - which in my opinion is more to do with their type of madness and the way it expresses itself. It isn't illogical, nor is it strictly psychotic, just... non-linear (borrowing someone else's description, not sure who).

Even if it's not a deliberate reference, I can well believe it's a subconscious one. Birnam wood was the place of using what was there as a cover in an attack against a 'government' that has started benign and ended with corruption and megalomania. Nice catch. (You should casually drop that into coversation with your English teacher!)

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