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Does college still have a purpose in the age of ChatGPT?
Tuesday, May 27, 2025 1:59 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:For many college students these days, life is a breeze. Assignments that once demanded days of diligent research can be accomplished in minutes. Polished essays are available, on demand, for any topic under the sun. No need to trudge through Dickens or Demosthenes; all the relevant material can be instantly summarized after a single chatbot prompt. Welcome to academia in the age of artificial intelligence. As several recent reports have shown, outsourcing one’s homework to AI has become routine. Perversely, students who still put in the hard work often look worse by comparison with their peers who don’t. Professors find it nearly impossible to distinguish computer-generated copy from the real thing — and, even weirder, have started using AI themselves to evaluate their students’ work. It’s an untenable situation: computers grading papers written by computers, students and professors idly observing, and parents paying tens of thousands of dollars a year for the privilege. At a time when academia is under assault from many angles, this looks like a crisis in the making.
Tuesday, May 27, 2025 7:05 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Tuesday, May 27, 2025 7:41 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Our colleges are mostly diploma-mills intent on sucking up those student- loan shekels by trotting students thru useless programs... BUT ... there are things you can ONLY learn in college, SIX. Physics, chemistry, biology, engineering, dentistry, medicine, biochemistry, geology, even warfare and history.
Tuesday, May 27, 2025 10:37 PM
Tuesday, May 27, 2025 11:41 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: The phrase I keyed on was "I resent".
Tuesday, May 27, 2025 11:58 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: The phrase I keyed on was "I resent". You're damn right I do. Me and most of GenX. And look around you and see where that got us. -------------------------------------------------- "I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon
Wednesday, May 28, 2025 12:04 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: The phrase I keyed on was "I resent". You're damn right I do. Me and most of GenX. And look around you and see where that got us. -------------------------------------------------- "I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon You're a bright guy. It seems like if anyone could take advantage of further education, it would be you. So, what was your intended college major?
Wednesday, May 28, 2025 12:36 AM
Wednesday, May 28, 2025 2:04 AM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: The phrase I keyed on was "I resent". You're damn right I do. Me and most of GenX. And look around you and see where that got us. You're a bright guy. It seems like if anyone could take advantage of further education, it would be you. And with the right major you get something more than a McJob. So, what was your intended college major?
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: The phrase I keyed on was "I resent". You're damn right I do. Me and most of GenX. And look around you and see where that got us.
Quote:I resent that any job I've applied for above retail has made it a requirement for a college diploma before they'll even look at your resume.
Wednesday, May 28, 2025 2:35 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: You can't fuck the system, SIX. But it sure can fuck you. I thought you'd have learned that by now.
Quote:Yanno, some day you're gonna get old, and I know that everything you think you own can be taken away arbitrarily, but you seem to blinding yourself to preparing for your own future (as much as is possible). Stop wallowing.
Wednesday, May 28, 2025 2:39 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: The phrase I keyed on was "I resent". You're damn right I do. Me and most of GenX. And look around you and see where that got us. You're a bright guy. It seems like if anyone could take advantage of further education, it would be you. And with the right major you get something more than a McJob. So, what was your intended college major? You REALLY think that when McDonald's was requiring a Bachelor's for cashier it was a great idea? Sorry, but you are just being dumb now. Context: Quote:I resent that any job I've applied for above retail has made it a requirement for a college diploma before they'll even look at your resume.
Wednesday, May 28, 2025 3:35 AM
Wednesday, May 28, 2025 3:50 AM
Quote: TV host and mikeroweWORKS Foundation CEO Mike Rowe says the current labor shortage and shifting work ethic are rooted in deeper cultural changes. “We’re the clouds from which the snowflakes fell,” he said, suggesting older generations helped create today’s workforce mindset, according to Fox News.
Wednesday, May 28, 2025 3:57 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Yanno SIX, your endlesss, entitled, butt-hurt whinging is boring. Think of something new, please.
Quote:The average U.S. worker spends roughly 25% to 33% of their life working. This equates to about 90,000 hours over a lifetime. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the average person age 15 and up spends about 3.56 hours per day working. For individuals who work, this average jumps to 8.13 hours per day.
Wednesday, May 28, 2025 4:03 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: I might not end up doing all that much by the time I'm dead, but at least I didn't spend most of my life being part of this statistic... Quote:The average U.S. worker spends roughly 25% to 33% of their life working. This equates to about 90,000 hours over a lifetime. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the average person age 15 and up spends about 3.56 hours per day working. For individuals who work, this average jumps to 8.13 hours per day. 90,000 hours over a lifetime. Working your asses off to make somebody else rich.
Wednesday, May 28, 2025 4:08 AM
Wednesday, May 28, 2025 4:24 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Find something meaningful to do (meaningful to others, not just you) besides venting your entitled-ness online.
Quote:Get out of the house and take a walk around the block. Visit your brother... not the rich one, the other one. See how your aunt is doing. Help one of your buddies. Say "hi" to a neighbor.
Quote:Your life could be so much worse, and for someone who claims to be living just the way he wants, you sure are awfully angry.
Wednesday, May 28, 2025 4:51 AM
Wednesday, May 28, 2025 8:39 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Oh... and I don't expect you to listen to me bitch or complain. That's your choice. I wouldn't listen if you were bitching and complaining about anything either. I'm sure you've been fucked 12 ways from Sunday all your life too, in your own special way, and nobody wants to hear about any of it. But feel free to post all about it even if it probably won't be read. I find it to be quite therapeutic sometimes to put the words down on paper and get them out of your head where they aren't serving any purpose and don't need to be residing. Just turns out I prefer typing them out rather than writing them. -------------------------------------------------- "I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon
Wednesday, May 28, 2025 8:45 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Oh... and I don't expect you to listen to me bitch or complain. That's your choice. I wouldn't listen if you were bitching and complaining about anything either. I'm sure you've been fucked 12 ways from Sunday all your life too, in your own special way, and nobody wants to hear about any of it. But feel free to post all about it even if it probably won't be read. I find it to be quite therapeutic sometimes to put the words down on paper and get them out of your head where they aren't serving any purpose and don't need to be residing. Just turns out I prefer typing them out rather than writing them. -------------------------------------------------- "I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul SimonWho wouldn't want to know about the non-stop soap opera going on inside a Trumptard's mind? 6ix, you're very entertaining in a way that the less articulate Texas Trumptards can never be.
Wednesday, May 28, 2025 8:59 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Find something meaningful to do (meaningful to others, not just you) besides venting your entitled-ness online. SIX: Don't get it twisted. I'm under no illusion that I'm entitled to anything. I've got 45 years of everything being taken away from me that wasn't nailed down.
Quote: I loved my last job, and I would have been happy working the rest of my life there part-time for $11.72 per hour, while being in the shape of my life... but can't even have that.
Quote:SIGNY Get out of the house and take a walk around the block. Visit your brother... not the rich one, the other one. See how your aunt is doing. Help one of your buddies. Say "hi" to a neighbor. SIX Not bad advice. Duly noted. I'll take it under consideration.
Quote:SIGNY: Your life could be so much worse, and for someone who claims to be living just the way he wants, you sure are awfully angry. SIX: I never said I live the way I want to live. I live the way I choose to live, given the circumstances. I don't play by their rules because fuck their rules. I know it could be way worse. It would be if I were a stupid white male. But that's where the blessing part of being quite a bit above-average intelligence ends and the curse part comes in. I'm simply too smart to be happy. How many truly smart people do you know in your life that are truly happy? Any of them that you can name are probably just really good at keeping that mask from slipping, much like I am in real life. I don't share any of these opinions with any real people in my real life. Honestly, most of them are probably too stupid to even have conversations like this with, and those rare few that are smart enough don't have any time for my bullshit because they've got enough of their own to deal with everyday. In our modern society, most smart men end up dying by their own hands.
Quote: I have no doubt that is in my future at some point. We're still quite a ways from that and I have things I still need doing before that happens, but once my health is failing me in any significant way and I can no longer take care of myself, or I'm dealing with some issues that just make everything day-to-day a miserable, painful slog, let's just say that I won't be putting anybody else out because of it. And I sure as hell won't ever be caught living in an assisted living home. I'll just make my way to whatever the next plane of existence is at that point, and I'll do it in as dignified a way as possible when it happens. On my own terms, just how I lived my life, and not caught pants down with my pud in my hands like half these jokers end up being found.
Wednesday, May 28, 2025 9:11 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: I loved my last job, and I would have been happy working the rest of my life there part-time for $11.72 per hour, while being in the shape of my life... but can't even have that. No. They took away the night shift, and you didn't like that, so you quit. Oh boo hoo.
Wednesday, May 28, 2025 2:39 PM
Wednesday, May 28, 2025 2:47 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: All I remember, SIX, is that you liked working at night bc you could work by yourself the way you wanted. That you did most of the work but didn't mind bc you were getting a qworkout. Also, the manager was reasonable. But since the whole shift was being eliminated so was the manager. I don't recall what the daytime situation was. The new position was at another store? The daytime manager was an asshole? The hours were too short? Aside from you not being able to work by yourself the way you wanted, nothing stood out from your posts as to why you decided to essentially quit, but were able to claim unemployment for some reason. If I missed the explanation, tell me.
Wednesday, May 28, 2025 3:30 PM
Wednesday, May 28, 2025 4:22 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Oh, I added to my post. Got it. That whole issue of random, non-guaranteed scheduling really pisses me off. I understand now why you quit.
Quote:So, aprops of chatgpi, I still think it's a case of GIGO. ChatGPI will still be bounded by language i.e. "what people talk about". I don't know how else to explain it, but that blazing insight like E=mc^2 or that we evolved thru a period of being semi-aquatic... those kinds of discoveries are beyond the bounds of "what people talk about" , which IMHO also includes a lot of nonsense about angels and tyranny and whatnot.
Quote:And there are things ChatGPI and other AIs will NEVER automate, like small engine repair and plumbing and cattle ranching.
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