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Bad news for Karens and Democrats... Especially bad news for Democrat Karens.

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Saturday, May 23, 2020 10:56 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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We should be grateful for good news in Georgia

https://theweek.com/articles/915446/should-grateful-good-news-georgia

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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Atlanta is not burning. Bodies are not piled up in the streets. Hospitals in Georgia are not being overwhelmed; in fact, they are virtually empty. There is no mad rush for ventilators (remember those?). Instead, men, women, and children in the Peach State are returning to some semblance of normal life: working outside their homes, going to restaurants and bars, getting haircuts, exercising, and most important, spending time with their friends and families and worshipping God. The opening that began more than three weeks ago is continuing apace.

Oh, my apologies, you were waiting for bad news? Sorry, I forgot, we were actually not supposed to be rooting for the virus. Despite the apparent relish behind headlines like "Georgia's Experiment in Human Sacrifice," one assumes that most Americans, even the ones most committed to omnidirectional prophecies of doom, were actually hoping this would happen. While it really is a shame that we do not get to gloat about the cravenness and stupidity of yet another GOP politician, I think on balance most of us will be glad to hear that Gov. Brian Kemp was not badly wrong here.

What is happening instead of the widely predicted bloodbath? Confirmed cases of the virus are obviously increasing (though the actual rolling weekly average of new ones have been headed down for nearly a month) while deaths remain more or less flat. This is in fact what happens when you test more people for a disease that is not fatal or even particularly serious for the vast majority of those who contract it, for which the median age of death is higher than the American life expectancy.

How was this possible? One answer is that the lockdown did not in fact do what it was supposed to do, which is to say, meaningfully impede transmission of the virus. In fact, data both from states like Georgia and from abroad suggests that the lifting of lockdowns is positively correlated with a decrease in rates of infection. This could be because lockdowns are inherently ineffective at slowing down a disease whose spread appears to be largely intrafamilial and nosocomial.

It could also be the weather. That's right: another thing that we were told months ago not even to suggest aloud because it would be irresponsible to make assumptions of any kind about the virus, even sensible ones, like the idea that wearing masks just might help slow it down. This is not science. COVID-19 arrived from China, not from outer space. Unsurprisingly, it appears to behave very much like other respiratory viruses, including influenza. It hates sunlight and the outdoors generally and prefers cramped stuffy conditions, like those found in public transit systems and dense housing complexes with poor ventilation.





Horowitz: The CDC confirms remarkably low coronavirus death rate. Where is the media?

https://www.conservativereview.com/news/horowitz-cdc-confirms-remarkab
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Most people are more likely to wind up six feet under because of almost anything else under the sun other than COVID-19.

The CDC just came out with a report that should be earth-shattering to the narrative of the political class, yet it will go into the thick pile of vital data and information about the virus that is not getting out to the public. For the first time, the CDC has attempted to offer a real estimate of the overall death rate for COVID-19, and under its most likely scenario, the number is 0.26%. Officials estimate a 0.4% fatality rate among those who are symptomatic and project a 35% rate of asymptomatic cases among those infected, which drops the overall infection fatality rate (IFR) to just 0.26% — almost exactly where Stanford researchers pegged it a month ago.






The Politics of Fear

https://www.city-journal.org/the-politics-of-fear

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In the political response to the Covid-19 pandemic, everything is proceeding just as economist Robert Higgs has foreseen. But that doesn’t make it any easier for him to watch it. “I have an overwhelming feeling that I am reliving a bad experience I’ve lived through several times before, only this time it’s worse,” Higgs says. “I have no doubt that even if the current situation plays out in the best imaginable way, it will leave an abundance of legacies for the worse so far as people’s freedom is concerned.”

Higgs sees government, as usual, vastly expanding during the crisis, and he’s sure that it will not shrink back to its former scale once the crisis is over. It never does, as he famously documented in his 1987 book, Crisis and Leviathan: Critical Episodes in the Growth of American Government, and in later works exploring this “ratchet effect.”

By surveying the effect of wars, financial panics, and other crises over the course of a century, Higgs showed that most government growth occurs in sporadic bursts during emergencies, when politicians enact “temporary” programs and regulations that never get fully abolished. New Deal bureaucracies and subsidies persisted long after the Great Depression, for example, and the U.S. military didn’t revert to its prewar size after either of the world wars.

Besides charting the growth of government, Higgs identified the fundamental psychological cause. He recognized the political significance of the negativity effect, also called the negativity bias—the universal tendency of negative events and emotions to affect us more strongly than positive ones.






I'm still laughing, Karen. (And make no mistake... I'm laughing AT you).

Well... about everything except for that third article.

Yanno... the one where they explain how Big Daddy Government managed to turn you into an agent for the Deep State through negativity and fear.

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Saturday, May 23, 2020 11:12 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




Fortunately, none of your links address anything I actually posted. Which you would have known if you could read. Oh well. Too bad for you!

Here's to you, again!

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Saturday, May 23, 2020 11:17 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Yup.

They all did.

Read them again, because your reading comprehension test for 5/23/2020 resulted in a failing grade, Karen.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, May 23, 2020 11:18 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quotes, or it didn't happen, JACK!


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Saturday, May 23, 2020 11:19 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Why don't you tell the class again about how deadly the Coomph is. Because the CDC just admitted that you're full of shit and you always were.


Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, May 23, 2020 11:20 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Why should I have to quote anything you said?

Pick a post related to Coomph and it's right there.

You've been spewing hysterical nonsense on these boards since early March on this topic.


Your behavior has been beyond gross.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, May 23, 2020 11:22 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



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Saturday, May 23, 2020 11:23 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Glad you're laughing.

History isn't going to remember you fondly.

Although I'm sure you'll try your damnedest to pretend that you weren't part of the problem.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, May 23, 2020 11:25 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




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Saturday, May 23, 2020 11:35 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Keep praying that the death toll rises so you can be right, Karen.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, May 23, 2020 11:36 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



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Saturday, May 23, 2020 11:48 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Yep, me too



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Saturday, May 23, 2020 3:36 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Honestly, I'm not sure what you both are laughing about.

You've been wrong about literally everything up to this point, and a lot less people have died and will die in the future because you were wrong.


Sounds like good news to everybody but the Deep State and the Karens.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, May 23, 2020 4:07 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


at you.

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Saturday, May 23, 2020 4:18 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Is laughing at people who were right about everything all along some sort of emotional tick among the Karens now that they've been proven to be cowardly shills for the Deep State?

Because you look very foolish right now.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, May 23, 2020 4:44 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



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Saturday, May 23, 2020 4:46 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Keep digging that hole deeper and deeper.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, May 23, 2020 4:58 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


You can't find one thing that I've been wrong about. That's why you're such a laughingstock, JACK.

Well, that and all your faux claims you've had to drop or backtrack on because they were flat out wrong.


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Saturday, May 23, 2020 6:16 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


SIX, the only reason why I'm laughing at you is because you're constantly misstating or misunderstanding whatever I've posted. It's like you're turning into a GSTRING.

Oh, and that you've been wrong about everything you've posted so far.

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Saturday, May 23, 2020 8:10 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
You can't find one thing that I've been wrong about. That's why you're such a laughingstock, JACK.

Well, that and all your faux claims you've had to drop or backtrack on because they were flat out wrong.




You say that, yet you haven't pointed out one single thing I've been wrong about yourself.

Numbers are coming out that blow your idiocy and panic out of the water. The CDC and the WHO are constantly backpedaling everything they once said was true and now videos that were suppressed and censored for going against them are now true.

This "disease" isn't shit. It never was. I always said as much.

Your panic is laughable. It has been from the beginning.

As more time goes by you will be an even bigger joke than you already are.



It will be quite amusing when you wake up one day and realize what a tool you've allowed yourself to become.


A sorry, sad-sack Deep State tool, not at all dissimilar from the idiots on this board that bought into Maddow and Olbermann's "Russia, Russia, Russia!" bullshit.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, May 23, 2020 8:13 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


What panic? Find me one quote!




That's what makes you such a laughingstock! Well, that and all the crap you were wrong about.

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Sunday, May 24, 2020 3:58 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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You are the one who has been posting every tiny little study under the sun that gave the worst possible news as if we should be grinding the nation to a halt because some half-baked test in Korea said that you can get it twice, or some idiot in California with a white lab coat said that your toes could fall off down the road if you catch it now.

You're also the first to push the absolute worst death rate numbers in everyone's faces constantly, with a tiny little rider at the end of your posts saying essentially "I could be wrong, possibly", as if that gives you a get out of jail free card for pushing propaganda.

You're a fear monger. A Deep State tool.



I haven't been wrong about any of it.

What time hasn't already proven me right about what I've been saying it will as more legit data starts coming out.



But keep laughing, Karen.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, May 24, 2020 4:03 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I ALSO posted the good news.

And btw, there's such a thing as being INTERESTED without being panicked. Because, yanno, this was my area of interest, study, and professional work for over half my life.

YOU otoh are so freaking shitting your pants over this YOU can't stand for anybody to post ANYTHING - even thought this is a real. world. event.

Clean up and get a hold of your bowels.


Meanwhile



Oh, and btw, I think you need to tell your brother the bad news about what you think about eaters like him. Not worth taking care of should he get sick, and not enough people like him dead.


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Sunday, May 24, 2020 4:16 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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How, exactly, am I shitting my pants over this situation again?

I never believed any of it from the beginning, and now that legit data is beginning to surface it turns out I was right, just like I usually am.

You, however, are a fear monger and a Deep State tool.




My brother already knows how I feel, and he agrees with me. What makes you think that I'm not honest about my feelings about this with people in my lives? What also makes you think that I don't apply those same standards to myself and what should happen to me when I'm old and sick either?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, May 24, 2020 4:49 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


SIX, I'm looking for indications of "panic" in my posts about SARS-Cov2 and I don't find any ...
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Jan 31
One thing he did mention many times is that there are only a limited number of test kits... in his estimation, each hospital is getting only 100 kits per day, and that the hospitals are EXTREMELY reluctant to test people if they don't believe that the patient is seriously sick with flu.
IF TRUE, that does a couple of things ... it reduces the total number of diagnosed patients. At the same time, it drastically increases the measured death rate, since asymptomatic/ mildly symptomatic people would never be tested positive. The only way to get a true death rate is near-universal testing of at least one sub-population.

Jan 31
China has in the past built "instant" structures ... hospitals, apartment complexes, skyscrapers, bridges etc. They're fully capable of that. If they're really doing it, then they either perceive a real epidemic problem, or a real political one (in which the local government ... which everyone knows are more corrupt than the national one ... sat on a secret and hoped it would go away, leaving the national government to contain the political fallout.

Jan31
As I read the paper, the "function" of those snippets of genome is "host recognition and binding". In other words, they would make the virus much more infectious (is that the correct word?) i.e. able to grab onto the human host cell more efficiently than a regular corona virus.
If that's the case, then that might explain the unusually high R-naught that some people seem to be estimating.

Feb2
The latest figures point to a roughly 2% fatality rate.
One good thing about the virus moving out of China is that we'll get better numbers, because (again, if I believe the Chinese social media) the Wuhan government is so overwhelmed and test kits are so scarce relative to the demand that nobody has any good figures on R-naught and death rate.
But clearly this isn't Ebola, with a 90% death rate.

Feb3
It seems to me, KIKI, that this whole concept of "insertions" should be easily proved or disproved. There was one team than said they found them. Well, they're either there, or they're not. They're either part of the "host cell recognition and docking" mechanisms, or they're not.
Where are the other virologists to either replicate or dispute the findings?
Because IF the insertions are there, and IF they're unprecedented to coronaviruses, and IF they have a function in the virus and increase infectivity, THEN that should tell people an awful lot about what governments do in secret. And when I say that "they have no moral or ethical boundaries to cross" I would have to expand the scope of my imagination to encompass that.

Feb11
With a 2.5% fataltiy rate, this would not be an extinction-level event. It would be just the old and pulmonary-compromised people (like me) who would be sickled off the end of the population-curve.
Now, if this were Ebola (60-90+% fatality rate, and the last big scare) ... THAT would be a near-extinction-level event!
What an outbreak of NOCOV-19 across the world would do is disrupt economies immensely, as people "hunkered down" and tried to reverse-quarantine. Since most people don't have the resources (either food or money) to stay at home for anything more than a day or two ... doomed to failure.
Curiously, the Mormons would probably fare well. Apparently they have this "thing" about storing food at home and institutionally (in the Church) for emergencies.

Feb12

China reports huge jump in new infections...

Phone makes it difficult to copy, but Hubei reported an additional 14,840 infections and 242 deaths, due to a change in definition (AGAIN). Originally they were including asymptomatic people who tested positive. Then they started excluding asymptomatic people who tested positive. Then they reversed their previous change and are now including asymptomatic people who test positive, and also including people diagnosed on the basis of "clinical symptoms" without a positive test (because test kits may not be available or result in false negatives)
For comparison, just the day before the definition change, the number of "new infections" was about 2000 and going down.
My take on this is that China is seeing a real reduction in cases and now that they feel they have a handle on this they're letting in foreigners and being more honest with their numbers. Chinese really don't want to air their dirty laundry especially to foreigners. To mix metaphors, something about losing face

Feb15
And just an "I told you so", which I should post in the relevant thread ... I have been thumping for quite a few years under What are America's interests? that the USA ... and indeed ALL nations interested in self-preservation ... should have as self-sufficient economy and neutral balance of trade as possible. The reason for that thinking is that highly centralized and interconnected production, while extremely profitable, is also extremely FRAGILE. I have pointed out several cases ... the plastics factory in Japan that was the only source of chip-making plastic which caught on fire, leaving the world with no ability to make memory sticks, the JUST IN TIME delivery which leaves every production facility hostage to any interrruption in transportation ...
Well, here we have China, "factory to the world" (and also source of cheap migrant labor into S Korea and Japan) ... a position which it coveted and which "advanced" nations were willing to give up ... in essence shutting down to control the spread of the Wuhan virus.
Yanno, we can do without Apple products. But China is a source in a vast and unaccounted SUPPLY CHAIN for a vast number of products, from car parts to textiles. They disrupted our entire recycling industry when they stopped taking our contaminated plastics ... what would happen if they were to shut down almost entirely?
When I was working, I had to order specialty chemicals to use as standards so we could analyze a wide variety of industrial and household products. Acrylic glue for packaging tape, the kind so beloved by Amazon. Resins for autobody paints. Surfactants for cleaners and stabilizers/antifungals for house paints. Catalysts for oil refining FCCUs.
Do you know how many were made in the USA?
NONE.
Some in Germany, but mostly in China. Pharmaceutics? Pesticides? Where are THEY coming from?

And then SIX and JSF derailed the conversation with idiocy about HIV and AIDS ....

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Mar3
Meanwhile, the shock of discovering another "first" ... first patient, first death, first cluster ... in yet another nation, state, or province, seems to be wearing off.
We've been seeing patients being rushed to hospital under oxygen by medics in space suits, which is very scary, but some reports are coming back from people who have recovered, saying that it was no worse than having a cold.
What this probably will be is a MASS PROBLEM. MOST patients are going to recover just fine, but a certain portion ... especially the elderly and those with heart problems, diabetes, or respiratory problems ... are going to become extremely ill, and there won't be enough hospital beds, IF the spread of the coronavirus isn't slowed down by isolation measures....
In the meantime, dd and I are starting a new fashion statement: we're running errands in masks. (WOW! What a way to pull a bank robbery!) We've set up a "decontamination" station at the breezeway sink, which is our dividing line between "clean" and "dirty".

Mar10
I think SIX was hoping to catch you repeating an M$M "lie" so he could ignore the numbers.
Trump is playing to his "base" by downplaying the virus and saying it will "go away". Well, maybe it will throttle back in summer, maybe it will mutate to a less virulent form but there's no guarantee that will ever happen.
I was never part of his base, and if his prediction doesn't come true before the election then IMHO he's digging himself a "heckuva a job, Brownie"-sized hole and it will swallow his election.
Don't get me wrong, SIX. I'm HOPING that Trump wakes the fuck up. I'm on his side. Better late than never.

Mar11
What's with the lack of test kits???
Supposedly they were distributed last week, totaling up to 1.5 million individual tests (roughly 450,000 patients) and THIS week 78 public health labs were certified.
So WTF??
yes, I know ... it's hard to get big programs going at the drop of a hat. This speaks to the slow strangulation of governmental science and medicine by previous Presidents over various terms of office ... but still. Is this deliberate or just mind-blowingly incompetent??

Mar12
Not only is hand sanitizer missing, so is rubbing alcohol (the active ingredient). There's a lot of misinformation "out there" which results in people buying or making sanitizers with ineffective concentrations of alcohol, which is a great way to waste alcohol
Sanitizer is great for situations where you can't leave your work station (like assembly line), for high-contact jobs like receptionists, fast food, and cashiers, where you have close minute-by-minute contact with lots of people (like caregivers, EMTs etc) and aren't always near a sink or can't wash your hands every minute.
Same goes for masks (not even respirators) which at least keeps those people from touching their faces. Everyone who MUST work with a lot of people should have a mask and sanitizer at their work station. It just seems like a job requirement nowadays.

mar15
The # of confirmed case in the USA for the past two-three days has topped out at approx +400/day. But there STILL isn't widespread testing available! So possibly this topping-out reflects the number of tests that can be performed. The CDC is promising it will have the testing snafu worked out ... any day now...!

mar19
It's a little like the Spanish Flu. The case fatality rate (#deaths/#infected) is widely quoted as anything from 2-10%, but in reality nobody knows because they didn't have tests back then. All they could do is look at symptoms. So the ACTUAL case fatality rate might have been much lower. In reality, we will never know. But even with a lower case fatality rate, because it was so infectious it still killed a lot of people.

mar20
added #staythefuckhome to my tagline

mar26
with all of the data available we shold be able to start to draw some conclusions, or at least ask questions.
I noticed, for example, that after Italy went on lockdown the number of new cases tends to stick pretty close to an average of about 5,500, which means it is no longer exponential. But where is the transmission still occurring?

mar27
Trying to "grok" the data here, unfortunately the quality of what it available online makes that difficult.
For example, Italy's death rate (deaths per day) rose again. It was at about 650 per day, jumped to a high of 800, dropped down, but is now back up again at 919. But that leads me to wonder ... what is the death toll for Bergamo? Bergamo is the hardest-hit. It was several weeks ahead of the rest of Italy, and instituted a lockdown before the rest of Italy. Is the death rate declining, because the most vulnerable have already died? Is the death rate declining because Russia swooped in with ventilators and other assistance? Is the death rate NOT declining? That kind of detail would really be helpful in understanding what works, and what doesn't. Needs more thought.
Same with NYC. It's hard to tell whether "social distancing" has been successful, or not. The pictures I see of NYC public spaces all have young people in them, so maybe the coronavirus is spreading (undetected) among young people, but the vulnerable have chosen to #staythefuckhome so the death rate will still be lower than the healthcare system capacity.

mar28
We have the Amber Alert on our phones, and yesterday it blared out, repeatedly, in English and Spanish, that parks, trails, and beaches were closed. I didn'r catch whether that was a state or county order, LA CITY already has more enforced "shelter in place" orders.
I think what's really going to clobber our system is the #of homeless and illegals. I imagine COVID-19 spreading like wildfire among Skid Row and the many other homeless encampments in LA County. Hell, we've had a couple of disease scares among the homeless already. And then there are the marginally-housed illegals who live in their own set of encampments. Maybe CA will learn that you're not supposed to let people roost, like pigeons, in the untennanted parts of our economy, plucking them out ar random for odd jobs "as needed" or shuttling them thru one-night stints in the drunk tank. You either provide them full services or, if you can't provide reliable jobs and services, you kick them out. None of this halfway bullshit.

Then SIX started claiming that a pharmacy tech who died of Covid-19 was an actual suicide, altho there was no suicide in any article ever

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mar29
SIX:Young and healthy people don't die from this. Period.

One of SIX's many epic fails

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apr8

I heard about, but have not been able to find a follow-up article on the fact that the UK's NHS deemed the serological test kits to be not acccurate enough, and won't distribute them. I don't know if the problem is poor sensitivity or lack of specificity. There is ANOTHER serological finger-stick test for Covid-19 antibodies which the company (falsely) claimed was approved by the FDA (BodySphere) https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/02/health/coronavirus-test-false-fda-autho
rization/index.html

As far as I can tell, the only serological test approved by the FDA by Cellex https://www.medtechdive.com/news/fda-authorizes-cellex-coronavirus-ant
ibodies-test/575451/ is for in-office and in-laboratory testing. So, no five-minute or two-minute or in-home test yet, altho I'm sure one will be developed at some point (It's a tried-and-true approach)

apr9
Actually, if you look at the data, I wonder whether antibodies (immunoglobulins) are the most effective way to clear the virus. If young people seem to do better but have fewer antibodies (at least to the spike proteins) and older people have more spike protein antibodies but don't fare as well, maybe other parts of the immune system (or antibodies to other parts of the virus) are more effective at inactivating it.
I don't know much about the immune system, other than there have got to be at least a dozen separate components that turn it on, and off (cytokines, antibodies/plasma cells, T cells, macrophages, interferons, steroids, calcineurin, etc) Every time I look itup, I bump into at least two other things I didn't know.

apr10
changed my tagline to #wearamask

So, just to make the point clearer, I recommended #STAYTHEFUCKHOME for LESS THAN A MONTH, and changed it to #WEARAMASK after about 20 days because staying at home forever is not an option, it is only the first step of a (hopefully) better-thought-out approach.

Well, that's enough of that. In re-reading my posts, I don't see "panic" anywhere. I've been mentioning the lack of test kits ever since this was reported in China, and that it skews the apparent fatality rate high. I never recommended staying home indefinitely, but have been masking up ... and recommending that everyone else do, too ... since eary March, and I still think it is the next logical step in opening up. There are a lot of other things workplaces can do, like staggering lunch hours and sanitizing commonly-touched surfaces (bathrooms, entryways etc) to make work safer. Been pointing out that "assisted living facilities" are death traps (they are). Have predicted that the total number of deaths in the USA from this pandemic will be in the "hundred of thousands to millions" which is still a good estimate IMHO but only time will prove me either right or wrong. Have been running my own "infection fatality rate" estimates ever since three serological test studies came out. Have NEVER recommended total government control of anything, am NOT a big fan of vaccines (esp the Bill Gates version) nor of expensive Big Pharma whizbang drugs.

I know you're trying to make this all about you. Maybe you feel like you lack attention?

But stop lying about people, 'mkay? It's not the best way to get attention.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

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Sunday, May 24, 2020 5:29 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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What also makes you think that I don't apply those same standards to myself and what should happen to me when I'm old and sick either?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

JACK, if you get seriously ill with COVID-19 it ALREADY means you're weak and ready for culling. No medical treatment for YOU, doody! NOBODY who gets seriously ill with it is worth rescuing ... according to you.

But your wannabe wonderkid kind is a dime a dozen anyway. So don't worry. Your passing will be of less than a small note. No one will miss you. And even your lazy-ass unproductive drain on unemployment resources that would be better going to people who actually work will be eliminated. And the planet will breathe small, itty-bitty, JACK-sized sigh of relief.

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Sunday, May 24, 2020 5:56 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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How, exactly, am I shitting my pants over this situation again?

This entire thread is your diarrhea, JACK.

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Sunday, May 24, 2020 11:00 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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lol

You Karens are hilarious.



Boomer Karens putting the final nail in the American coffin. Who didn't see that one coming?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, May 24, 2020 2:52 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Uh hunh.

Whatever.

Keep up your cray-cray posts. The ones with zero quotes, zero links, and zero indication you're dealing with reality. At least you're funny.











breathe






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