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Georgia Elections - And Here We Go!

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Monday, June 19, 2017 3:52 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Two things:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrats-see-high-stakes-in-ge
orgia%E2%80%99s-special-election/ar-BBCQOJZ?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp





Never mind the Russians, this is the sneakiest motherfucker going.
Sneaky fucking bitch!


SGG

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Monday, June 19, 2017 4:08 AM

6STRINGJOKER


It could be the first productive thing in 6 months that any Democrats have done.

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Tuesday, June 20, 2017 4:24 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Well then, we will know more about that tomorrow (Tuesday).


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
It could be the first productive thing in 6 months that any Democrats have done.


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Tuesday, June 20, 2017 10:39 PM

RIVERLOVE


The Republican won .... hip, hip, hoo gives a shit! Both candidates were pathetic and awful, yet somehow over $50 million was spent on this one stupid meaningless Congressional race. More than half of that came from out of state, which is abhorrent and sickening in and of itself. Chalk up another agonizing Soros/Democrat failure and another Republican win.




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Wednesday, June 21, 2017 12:32 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


The Russians Do It Again: Democrats Get Crushed In Georgia Election Despite 7x Spending Advantage

After months of Democrats boasting that Georgia's special election in the 6th district would be a startling referendum on Trump's agenda, they just got served up another stunning defeat, as most networks have now called the race for Republican Karen Handel. In fact, rather than losing ground since Trump moved into the White House, Republicans actually performed better.

Don't listen to the BS media narrative

Republicans did BETTER in June of 2017 than in November

Democrats lost traction, not gained! pic.twitter.com/xNMSJogHbA

— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) June 21, 2017

Of course, making Handel's win even sweeter for Republicans is the fact that Democrats outspent them by a margin of 7-to-1, with Ossoff dropping a staggering ~$22 million versus only $3 million for Handel....which is kind of reminiscent of how things played our for Hillary...oops.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-20/live-updates-georgias-special
-election


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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Wednesday, June 21, 2017 1:36 AM

6STRINGJOKER



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Wednesday, June 21, 2017 3:12 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Gracious, to the last!

Which direction are we going in?


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The Russians Do It Again: Democrats Get Crushed In Georgia Election Despite 7x Spending Advantage

After months of Democrats boasting that Georgia's special election in the 6th district would be a startling referendum on Trump's agenda, they just got served up another stunning defeat, as most networks have now called the race for Republican Karen Handel. In fact, rather than losing ground since Trump moved into the White House, Republicans actually performed better.

Don't listen to the BS media narrative

Republicans did BETTER in June of 2017 than in November

Democrats lost traction, not gained! pic.twitter.com/xNMSJogHbA

— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) June 21, 2017

Of course, making Handel's win even sweeter for Republicans is the fact that Democrats outspent them by a margin of 7-to-1, with Ossoff dropping a staggering ~$22 million versus only $3 million for Handel....which is kind of reminiscent of how things played our for Hillary...oops.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-20/live-updates-georgias-special
-election


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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one



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Wednesday, June 21, 2017 3:14 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Another great Republican Win.....this in a Republican stronghold, or should I say stranglehold.

More power to you! Now which direction are we going in?


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:


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Wednesday, June 21, 2017 3:29 AM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Another great Republican Win.....this in a Republican stronghold, or should I say stranglehold.

More power to you! Now which direction are we going in?




I'm fine with the direction so far. We're back to calling a terrorist a terrorist, the SJW cringe fest of the last half decade has subsided, the media is too busy hounding Trump everyday to remind everybody that I'm inherently evil because I'm a straight white male.

This makes 6 months now that Democrats haven't actually done, well... anything.

I dunno. What's next?

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Wednesday, June 21, 2017 7:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Another great Republican Win.....this in a Republican stronghold, or should I say stranglehold.

More power to you! Now which direction are we going in?



I'm fine with the direction so far. We're back to calling a terrorist a terrorist, the SJW cringe fest of the last half decade has subsided, the media is too busy hounding Trump everyday to remind everybody that I'm inherently evil because I'm a straight white male.

This makes 6 months now that Democrats haven't actually done, well... anything.

I dunno. What's next?

Come to Texas, where the government is very concerned about the feelings of 6stringJoker!

The Republican controlled factory workers' paradise that Trump is promising for the nation has existed in Texas for decades!

Democrats (and George Soros) permanently lost control of Texas when the Governor flipped from being a registered Democrat to a Republican to show his support for Richard Nixon!

Texans will show you millions of happy poor working people, happy unemployed, and at least one rich person I know personally.


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Wednesday, June 21, 2017 7:33 AM

6STRINGJOKER


lol... what does that even mean?

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Wednesday, June 21, 2017 7:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
lol... what does that even mean?

Texas is paradise for straight white male Republicans who are unemployed. Come and be unemployed in Texas. It will be better than where you are. For a social example, if 6stringJoker is concerned, here’s what the Texas bathroom bill means in plain English https://apps.texastribune.org/texas-bathroom-bill-annotated/ If bathrooms are important enough for the Republican governor to call a special session of the legislature, it must be a very important issue to all Republicans, no matter what state they now live in.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, June 21, 2017 8:03 AM

6STRINGJOKER


So what were the unemployment numbers like in Texas the last 8 years?

Still don't see your point other than your continued virtue signaling.

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Wednesday, June 21, 2017 8:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
So what were the unemployment numbers like in Texas the last 8 years?

Still don't see your point other than your continued virtue signaling.

The point is that the very best you can hope for in your state if Trump gets ALL his wishes and Republicans control your entire state will be no better than what Texas already has. Does your state have less oil and natural gas than Texas? Then Trump's results in your state will not be as good as in Texas. To your other question: 55% unemployment rate in Texas. Approximately 13 million employed out of a 28 million population. I'm calculating unemployment the way Trump calculated unemployment during his campaign. He changed calculation methods after he was elected.

And Texas has millions and millions working at the minimum wage or less and millions and millions without health insurance, more than any other state. If you are unemployed or work minimum wage jobs in your state, it is a workers' paradise here in Texas, much better than Georgia or your state.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, June 21, 2017 8:54 AM

6STRINGJOKER


So.... what's your point? This is the last time I'm going to ask you that.

If employment was any better the last 8 years then there might be something to bitch about or at least blame Trump for.

It wasn't, and there isn't.

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Wednesday, June 21, 2017 9:37 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
So.... what's your point? This is the last time I'm going to ask you that.

If employment was any better the last 8 years then there might be something to bitch about or at least blame Trump for.

It wasn't, and there isn't.

Unemployment is unchanged in Texas. The point I am trying to get you to see is that Texas arrived when George Bush was Governor at the place where Trump, today, is leading the rest of the country. Texas is what Republicanism stands for. In Texas, people in the lower income brackets don't like it. I like it just fine, thank you. People with low incomes in the other 49 states won't like it when Trump turns the entire USA into Texas. If you don't like your life now, you won't be any happier when Trump finishes all his plans.

Come to Texas and see the future that Trump has planned for you. It depends on how wealthy you are how much you will love it.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, June 21, 2017 10:01 AM

REAVERFAN


True. Trump is heaven for the rich, hell for all others.

We already knew the Democrat was going to lose. The Koch brothers got involved.

There is literally no election they can't buy.

Since Citizens United, our government is for sale to the highest bidder, and no one bids higher than the Kochs.

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Wednesday, June 21, 2017 10:41 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
True. Trump is heaven for the rich, hell for all others.

We already knew the Democrat was going to lose. The Koch brothers got involved.

There is literally no election they can't buy.

Since Citizens United, our government is for sale to the highest bidder, and no one bids higher than the Kochs.

Democrats would win if they had something to offer for the average American who just wants a job at a decent wage. Yes, EVERYONE should have an equal shot at success, but turning us into a rollerball of competing victim-groups isn't the solution for what ails us. We jobs at decent wages for everyone.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Wednesday, June 21, 2017 11:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Democrats would win if they had something to offer for the average American who just wants a job at a decent wage. Yes, EVERYONE should have an equal shot at success, but turning us into a rollerball of competing victim-groups isn't the solution for what ails us. We jobs at decent wages for everyone.

Politics doesn't work the way you are implying. Democrats have that message in Texas and it does NOT work. Raise the minimum wage to a decent wage? Not gonna happen in Texas. Air-condition prisons to stop heat deaths in Summer? Not gonna happen without it turning into Federal case. Stop gerrymandering districts? Not gonna happen unless the Supreme Court forces the issue. A hundred other improvements are not gonna happen.

Even when Democrats make the biggest, wildest, most improbable promises they can dream about, it makes no difference. They still lose every statewide election. There are no magic words, no policy positions, no super-duper offers that will shove Republicanism out of power in Texas.

This is the state that sent Senator Ted Cruz to Washington. This state loves nutty Ted. This is the state that called a special legislative session for July to pass a bathroom bill. This is the way it is.


"Luckily for my interpretation, no precincts were won by the Green Party."
https://xkcd.com/1852/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, June 21, 2017 11:50 AM

G

... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
So.... what's your point? This is the last time I'm going to ask you that.

If employment was any better the last 8 years then there might be something to bitch about or at least blame Trump for.

It wasn't, and there isn't.



Huh? So what's this?

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/employed-persons


Jic you want to go the other way:
https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000


So unemployment is down and employment is up - funny, it appears to be the exact opposite of what you said...am I reading those wrong?

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Wednesday, June 21, 2017 1:21 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


Meanwhile, a better measure of number of jobs is the participation rate, which went ...
https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000

That's the problem with using bad metrics .... you lose sight of what's really going on. Yanno, kind of like the polls which showed Ossoff "winning" by five points.

http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2017/05/23/surveyusa-poll-ossoff-opens-le
ad-over-handel-in-6th-district-runoff
/

DAMN! That "real world" really does wind up biting people in the ass, doesn't it???

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Wednesday, June 21, 2017 1:45 PM

THGRRI

May the Good Lord take a liking to you... but not too soon!








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Wednesday, June 21, 2017 1:46 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


Quote:

Politics doesn't work the way you are implying. Democrats have that message in Texas and it does NOT work.- SECOND
I have no idea what the Democratic message is in Texas.

Quote:

Raise the minimum wage to a decent wage? Not gonna happen in Texas.- SECOND
The problem with "raising the minimum wage" is that it's often counterbalanced by "and reducing the number of jobs", which makes sense to a lot of people. THEY know that the capitalists in their home state (and elsewhere) will reduce their expenses as much as possible, even if it means automating bartender jobs. You have to make promises that are more bullet-proof than that.

Quote:

Air-condition prisons to stop heat deaths in Summer?-SECOND
Another victim-group argument.

Quote:

Stop gerrymandering districts? Not gonna happen unless the Supreme Court forces the issue.- SECOND
The Supreme Court has agreed to take this up.

Quote:

A hundred other improvements are not gonna happen.- SECOND
What ARE those "hundred other" improvements? I have no idea. Please list a few.

Quote:

Even when Democrats make the biggest, wildest, most improbable promises they can dream about, it makes no difference. They still lose every statewide election. There are no magic words, no policy positions, no super-duper offers that will shove Republicanism out of power in Texas.- SECOND
What do Republicans offer?


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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Wednesday, June 21, 2017 1:46 PM

THGRRI

May the Good Lord take a liking to you... but not too soon!


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Stop gerrymandering districts? Not gonna happen unless the Supreme Court forces the issue. A hundred other improvements are not gonna happen.

Even when Democrats make the biggest, wildest, most improbable promises they can dream about, it makes no difference. They still lose every statewide election. There are no magic words, no policy positions, no super-duper offers that will shove Republicanism out of power in Texas.




Promises aside SECOND, the progressive democratic message comes across as being for everyone but the white working class. They need to start including the term white in their messaging. They have no problem saying they are for minorities. Me too, but they need to speak to me as well. It appears to me they run for the hills to avoid saying whites included.

The Democratic Party needs to win back the 1000 legislative seats they've lost in the past decade, then add even more wins to that.



Supreme Court to hear potentially landmark Wisconsin case on partisan gerrymandering

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-supreme-cou
rt-gerrymandering-20170619-story.html







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Wednesday, June 21, 2017 2:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

What do Republicans offer?

The ecological view that it takes many blades of low-metabolic grass to sustain one herbivore and it takes many herbivores to sustain one high-metabolic carnivore and it takes many peasants to make one lord and many industrial proles to make one fat-cat Texas Republican.
https://aeon.co/essays/are-plagues-and-wars-the-only-ways-to-reduce-in
equality


Maybe I should expand that a tiny bit? The people voting for Republicanism know their place in the hierarchy and they bitterly resent that Democrats don't know or stay in their proper place in Texas. That is probably too cryptic. Real life examples that I've seen many times in Texas: "Why does that nigger Obama think he can tell me what to do?" or "Those goddamn stuck-up professors don't know how things are done in Texas." or "A woman will never be President of me!" That resentment toward Democrats will not ever go away even if Democrats run different campaigns with enticing promises.

Did I forget to mention that Texas Republicans hate the idea of government spending money on poor people? Even poor Republicans hate that idea, except when the money is spent on them, because nobody but them deserves help, certainly not niggers or mexicans. "Hand up, no hand outs" is their motto. Democratic politicians wouldn't be Democrats if they hated poor people as much as Republican voters do.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, June 21, 2017 3:18 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


Quote:

Maybe I should expand that a tiny bit? The people voting for Republicanism know their place in the hierarchy and they bitter resent that Democrats don't know or stay in their proper place in Texas. That is probably too cryptic. Real life examples that I've seen many times in Texas: "Why does that nigger Obama think he can tell me what to do?" or "Those goddamn stuck-up professors don't know how things are done in Texas." or "A woman will never be President of me!" That resentment toward Democrats will not ever go away even if Democrats run different campaigns with enticing promises.- SECOND
How did Ann Richards - a female Democrat- become governor?



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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Wednesday, June 21, 2017 3:31 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
There is literally no election they can't buy.



LOL... seeing as how the Democrat outspent the Republican nearly 7 to 1 on the campaign, but yanno...

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Wednesday, June 21, 2017 3:32 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
How did Ann Richards - a female Democrat- become governor?



Another good story ruined by the Truth.

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Wednesday, June 21, 2017 3:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

How did Ann Richards - a female Democrat- become governor?

She is dead for 12 years. She has been out of office for 25 years. It was like electing a black governor in a formerly Confederate state -- that governor won't last and was only elected because of a fluke -- losing the Civil War. Richard got elected because Republican Governor Sourpuss was such a fuck-up.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, June 21, 2017 4:50 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


SECOND, you speak with a great deal of bitterness about Texas Republicans, but not much insight.

Usually, when people sacrifice some of their well-being, it's because they feel that they're getting something more important in return. What is it about Texas Republicans that seems to resonate with many Texans?


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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Wednesday, June 21, 2017 11:44 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


Hi SECOND .... let me rephrase my question.

Sometimes people can be induced to sacrifice their lives because of patriotism, or to save their buddies. Sometimes people will turn down government help because they identify themselves as "frontiersmen", or roughnecks (worker macho).

You generally don't get people to sacrifice a portion of their lifestyle "just because", as in: You will remain downtrodden for the rest of your life, with no hope of progress, just because that's your lot in life.

So, what is it than Texans are giving up, and how are they induced to do that? I'm curious.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Thursday, June 22, 2017 4:28 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Other than trying desperately to repeal the ACA or Obamacare, as it's come to be known, what have our stalwart, but callous, Republicans done in say - Oh! - the last 12 years? Aside from get us into a endless war in the Middle East (by the way, for which Cheney is eternally grateful).

Let me know when you get to something good. And WTF is with this calling "a terrorist a terrorist" thing about. Who the fuck cares? Especially when you're dead. Like the word will magically bring anyone back. Personally, I call them "marshmallows," has a nice tone and they're tasty too.

Calling these low-lives terrorists just gives them power. Fuck calling them terrorists - they are cowards, sneaking up on innocent people going about their business is just plain cowardly. I just thought of something better to call them.
I'm going to quote that famous American cowboy from the annals of the entertainment
capital of the world......Yosemite Sam:

they are "yellow belly, lilly livered varmints. I'm gonna fill ya full of lead."

Ahhh, I feel better already.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Another great Republican Win.....this in a Republican stronghold, or should I say stranglehold.

More power to you! Now which direction are we going in?




I'm fine with the direction so far. We're back to calling a terrorist a terrorist, the SJW cringe fest of the last half decade has subsided, the media is too busy hounding Trump everyday to remind everybody that I'm inherently evil because I'm a straight white male.

This makes 6 months now that Democrats haven't actually done, well... anything.

I dunno. What's next?

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Thursday, June 22, 2017 4:55 AM

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The point is, Obama and the SJWs wouldn't even call out Islam for the last 8 years, and they've been literally getting away with murder and growing stronger all that time. If nothing else, in the last 6 months there has been an abrupt turn on that bullshit.

Don't kid yourself that the Republicans alone are to blame for the wars. Obama and Hillary and the rest of the Democrats were in no hurry to end any of them either, and were all to eager to lead us into more.

My own personal biggest disappointment in Trump so far seems to be that this is not going to change any time soon.

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Thursday, June 22, 2017 6:10 AM

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... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Meanwhile, a better measure of number of jobs is the participation rate, which went ...

That's the problem with using bad metrics .... you lose sight of what's really going on.




No, I see what's going on. The problem with you is you lie all the time.

Look what I found - what a great headline:

LABOR-FORCE PARTICIPATION
The chart Obama-haters love most—and the truth behind it

https://qz.com/286213/the-chart-obama-haters-love-most-and-the-truth-b
ehind-it
/

"Now, even if the US economy continues improving—as most expect—it doesn’t mean that labor-force participation will rebound. Rather, it’s likely to keep declining for at least the next 10 years, as the baby-boomers continue to age out of the workforce. (CBO estimates that labor force participation will be at 60.8% in 2024.)
Without another giant baby boom, it will most likely never to return to the peaks seen during the late 1990s, no matter what political party is in charge. As a measure of whether Americans who should be working are working, the employment-to-population ratio for people of prime working age is much more useful.
In other words, you should stop talking about labor-force participation. After all, Obama’s conservative critics will do just that if one of their own takes over the White House in 2016."

Did you get that from Fox News, SIGGY?

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Friday, June 23, 2017 7:21 AM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


Quote:

"Our Brand's Worse Than Trump" Democrats Demand "Toxic" Pelosi Step Aside, Trump Urges Her To Stay

Update: Nancy Pelosi does have one supporter who believes she should stay...
I certainly hope the Democrats do not force Nancy P out. That would be very bad for the Republican Party - and please let Cryin' Chuck stay! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 22, 2017

* * *

Democrats' embarrassing special-election loss in Georgia, after the liberal media built up unrealistic expectations, has provoked a wave of bitter blowback that targets House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi.

As Axios notes, it's part of a generational argument that's also driving the party's 2020 conversation.

“It was a very rough night for Nancy Pelosi,” said Sean Clegg, a Democratic strategist in San Francisco, adding that he was personally a big fan of hers.
“Republican messaging attacking Pelosi appeared to be more effective than Democratic messaging against Trump. That’s a problem going forward, and it’s going to be a challenge in House races particularly.”
"I think the problem is we have not come up with an agenda and then we need a strategy to communicate it," Rep. Bill Pascrell, D-N.J., said. We can't just be against something."


On Wednesday, some Democratic members of Congress publicly voiced concerns about Pelosi, raising the specter of a leadership challenge.

“I think you’d have to be an idiot to think we could win the House with Pelosi at the top,” Rep. Filemon Vela, a Texas Democrat, told Politico.
“Nancy Pelosi is not the only reason that Ossoff lost, but she certainly is one of the reasons.”


Representative Ben Ray Luján of New Mexico, the chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, reportedly met Wednesday morning with a group of lawmakers who have been conferring about economic messaging, according to several people present who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

Mr. Luján told the group that his committee would examine the Georgia results for lessons, but he urged the lawmakers to portray the race in positive terms in their public comments, stressing that Democrats have consistently exceeded their historical performance in a series of special elections fought in solidly Republican territory.

It was in the meeting with Mr. Luján that Mr. Cárdenas, a member of the Democratic leadership, brought up Ms. Pelosi’s role in the Georgia race, calling it “the elephant in the room.”
Ms. Pelosi was not present.


On the front page of liberal heartland Silicon Valley's paper, The Mercury News of San Jose...

"Some of the toughest ads against the 30-year-old [Georgia Dem candidate Jon] Ossoff were those tying him to Pelosi, whose approval ratings are underwater outside California."

Furthermore, as NYTimes reports, in a possible omen, the first Democratic candidate to announce his campaign after the Georgia defeat immediately vowed not to support Ms. Pelosi for leader.

Joe Cunningham, a South Carolina lawyer challenging Representative Mark Sanford, said Democrats needed “new leadership now.”
Even Democrats who are not openly antagonistic toward Ms. Pelosi acknowledged that a decade of Republican attacks had taken a toll: “It’s pretty difficult to undo the demonization of anyone,” said Representative Bill Pascrell Jr. of New Jersey.


So with all that said, we are left with one question, as The Economic Collapse blog's Michael Snyder asks, are the 'toxic' Democrats destine to become a permanent minority party?

It has become exceedingly clear that the Democratic Party is in deep trouble. Close to 55 million dollars was spent on the race in Georgia’s sixth congressional district, and that shattered all kinds of records. Democrat Jon Ossoff was able to raise and spend six times as much money as Karen Handel and yet he still lost. This was supposed to be the race that would show the American people that the Democrats could take back control of Congress in 2018, and so for the Democrats this was a bitter failure. The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee actually injected almost 5 million dollars into the race themselves, and Planned Parenthood threw in another $700,000. But after all of the time, effort and energy that was expended, Handel still won fairly comfortably.

The Democrats are trying to spin this result as some sort of “moral victory”, but as Dan Balz of the Washington Post has pointed out, there are “no moral victories in politics”…

There are no moral victories in politics. Republicans won on Tuesday in the most important special election this year. Democrats lost, as they have done in the other special elections in GOP-held seats this year.

For the national Democratic Party, the debate continues about developing a message that goes beyond attacking Trump, or assuming dissatisfaction with the president will be enough.


It has been a very long time since there has been so much national attention on a single House race. A number of high profile Hollywood celebrities became personally involved in Ossoff’s campaign, and they were absolutely devastated when he lost…

Celebrities who donated time and money to Ossoff’s campaign, including actresses Alyssa Milano and Rosie O’Donnell, used their social media accounts to react to the Democrat’s loss shortly after the election results were confirmed late Tuesday night.
Milano, who personally drove voters to the polls in April’s preliminary election and was actively campaigning for the Democrat for most of Election Day, tweeted simply: “Grouphug” and “Get in.”
Meanwhile, electronic music producer Moby and vocal Trump critic O’Donnell appeared to be frustrated by the results, with Moby questioning how Democratic “still can’t win” even with “buffoon” Donald Trump in the White House. O’Donnell tweeted: “DONALD TRUMP IS THE DARKNESS ITSELF.”


Where does the Democratic Party go from here?

Their anti-Trump message is not working, and their usual divide and conquer tactics are not working either.

At this point either the Democratic Party is going to have to reinvent itself, or they could be facing a long, painful string of election defeats for the foreseeable future. To say that things have not been going well for the Democrats lately would be a major understatement. I really like what Rush Limbaugh had to say about this on his radio show…

“You have no idea the degree to which the media and the Democratic Party are destroyed today. I’m talking about how they feel … which is complete and utter defeat, frustration and devastation,” he said on Wednesday, hours after Republican Karen Handel was a multiple percentage point winner over defeated Democrat Jon Ossoff.
“The dirty little secret is the media and the Democratic Party is turning off average Americans. They are not persuading, they are not convincing people Trump is a reprobate,” he continued. “They do not know how to beat Donald Trump. There are depressed and despondent.”


It doesn’t take a genius to figure out why Jon Ossoff lost.

All of the anger and violence that we have seen lately has greatly tainted the Democratic Party.

The Democrats have become the party of Kathy Griffin.

The Democrats have become the party of Antifa and mock Trump assassinations.

And the Democrats have become the party of James Hodgkinson.

U.S. Representative Tim Ryan was right on the ball when he admitted that his party’s brand has now become “toxic” in much of the nation…

Representative Tim Ryan of Ohio, who tried to unseat Ms. Pelosi as House minority leader late last fall, said she remained a political millstone for Democrats. But Mr. Ryan said the Democratic brand had also become “toxic” in much of the country because voters saw Democrats as “not being able to connect with the issues they care about.”

“Our brand is worse than Trump,” he said.


As I have discussed repeatedly, the left doesn’t have any positive vision for the future to offer the American people. They cannot win in the marketplace of ideas, and so they use anger, frustration, intimidation and violence as weapons. For quite a while the Democrats successfully used “the blame game” and divide and conquer tactics to win elections, but now the American people are seeing through the charade.

The more angry and violent the left becomes, the more the American people are going to turn against them. The following comes from Daniel Greenfield…

But Trump Derangement Syndrome is a symptom of a problem with the left that existed before he was born. The left is an angry movement. It is animated by an outraged self-righteousness whose moral superiority doubles as dehumanization. And its machinery of culture glamorizes its anger. The media dresses up the seething rage so that the left never has to look at its inner Hodgkinson in the mirror.
The left is as angry as ever. Campus riots and assassinations of Republican politicians are nothing new. What is changing is that its opponents are beginning to match its anger. The left still clings to the same anger it had when it was a theoretical movement with plans, but little impact on the country. The outrage at the left is no longer ideological. There are millions of people whose health care was destroyed by ObamaCare, whose First Amendment rights were taken away, whose land was seized, whose children were turned against them and whose livelihoods were destroyed.

I do have to say that "anger" and "intimidation" aren't the province of ONLY the left, so I find this argument disingenuous at best.

Quote:

Of course it is quite true that the Republican Party needs to be cleaned up as well. Many establishment Republicans use labels such as “conservative” and “Pro-Life” to win elections, but then they end up government like Democrats. And so many members of Congress in both parties spend far more time and energy raising money for their next elections than they do serving the American people.

There is a reason why Congress only has a 17.6 percent approval rating at the moment. Both major parties should take that as a sign that they need to clean up their acts, because the American people are sick and tired of the status quo.

* * *

Of course the denial runs deep in The Democratic Party as a morning-after memo from the head of the House Democrats' campaign arm, DCCC Chair Ben Ray Luján of New Mexico, tries to buck up the troops by declaring: "THE HOUSE IS IN PLAY," partly because of "the nationwide collapse of support for President Trump."

And Pelosi herself made the following incredible statements this morning...

*PELOSI SAYS PROUD OF GA. CONGRESSIONAL RACE SHOWING
*PELOSI SAYS PROUD OF UNITY AMONG DEMOCRATS, AND HER LEADERSHIP
*PELOSI SAYS MANY DISTRICTS ARE NOW OPPORTUNITIES FOR DEMOCRATS
*PELOSI SAYS DEMOCRATS UNITED ON ISSUES

It appears all that Democrats are united on is that Pelosi should go.


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-22/our-brands-worse-trump-democr
ats-demand-toxic-pelosi-step-aside


I think there's a real disconnect between the "socially liberal" message of the Dems and Trump's message of economic nationalism.

Personally, I'd like to hear a message that is both inclusive AND which proposes real economic progress.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Friday, June 23, 2017 7:41 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Two things:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrats-see-high-stakes-in-ge
orgia%E2%80%99s-special-election/ar-BBCQOJZ?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp



Never mind the Russians, this is the sneakiest motherfucker going.
Sneaky fucking bitch!


SGG



Being honest and legal is not " sneaky ". Karen said several were brought up before the board. She did NOT say several were CONVICTED. Yet the 'FACT CHECK' made it sound as if she had said that, so sorry ' FACT CHECK', you lied.


So glad she won, and so glad it ticks off the Leftists Resist losers.

0 for 5 in special elections ?


And voter ID...India has it. For EVERYONE. A country of 1.3 Billion. Are THEY racist too ?

Screw ANYONE who says that voter ID is an attempt to suppress the vote. It isn't. It's an attempt to keep it honest.

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Friday, June 23, 2017 7:47 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
True. Trump is heaven for the rich, hell for all others.

We already knew the Democrat was going to lose. The Koch brothers got involved.

There is literally no election they can't buy.

Since Citizens United, our government is for sale to the highest bidder, and no one bids higher than the Kochs.



One small problem w/ that, the hugest bidder , the Dems, keep losing. Whether it's Hillary and her 1.7 billion dollars or Jon Ossoff, and his 95% contributions coming from CA for a GA district in which he doesn't even LIVE...

" How bad did the Dems ultimately do in GA06? Ossoff got fewer votes than the guy who literally spent $0.00 against Tom Price in November. " @EWErickson




Suck it, again.

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Friday, June 23, 2017 8:04 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


GSTRING

Quote:

... All that extra data enables the BLS to calculate six different measures of labor underutilization, labeled U-1 through U-6, with broader or narrower parameters than the official unemployment rate (which is known as U-3). The broadest, U-6, includes all “marginally attached” workers (including discouraged workers) and involuntary part-time workers. The seasonally adjusted U-6 rate stood at 9.4% in January; since 1994 it has ranged from 6.8% (in October 2000) to 17.1% (most recently in April 2010). While the U-6 typically runs anywhere from 3 to 7 percentage points higher than the regular unemployment rate, with the gap wider during recessions and narrower in good economic times, it tends to follow the same pattern as the official unemployment rate.

Beyond the unemployment rate, a key metric in the monthly jobs report is the labor force participation rate – the share of the 16-and-over civilian non-institutional population either working or looking for work. The participation rate rose for several decades, peaked in early 2000 at 67.3%, then began falling; in January it was 62.9%, about where it was in the late 1970s.

Labor economists generally agree that waves of retiring Baby Boomers explain part (but not all) of the decline, which has been [o]especially steep for men in their prime working years.

... There’s also the employment-population ratio, which measures employed people as a percentage of the 16-and-over civilian non-institutional population. Though the ratio has some quirks, it’s less affected by seasonal variations or short-term fluctuations in labor-market behavior than the unemployment rate. According to the January jobs report, the seasonally adjusted employment-population ratio was 59.9%, three-tenths of a percentage point higher than it was a year earlier.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/03/07/employment-vs-unemploy
ment-different-stories-from-the-jobs-numbers
/

Many people have either gone back to school or stayed on school (and live with mom and dad) or have applied for disability which takes them out of the official labor force.

Probably the least "interpreted" measure of labor force utilization is the employment to population ratio, which looks like this ...



You can get an interactive view from the FRED (Federal Reserve Bank of St Louis) here https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNU02327660

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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Friday, June 23, 2017 8:10 AM

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... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
GSTRING

Quote:

... All that extra data enables the BLS to calculate six different measures of labor underutilization, labeled U-1 through U-6, with broader or narrower parameters than the official unemployment rate (which is known as U-3). The broadest, U-6, includes all “marginally attached” workers (including discouraged workers) and involuntary part-time workers. The seasonally adjusted U-6 rate stood at 9.4% in January; since 1994 it has ranged from 6.8% (in October 2000) to 17.1% (most recently in April 2010). While the U-6 typically runs anywhere from 3 to 7 percentage points higher than the regular unemployment rate, with the gap wider during recessions and narrower in good economic times, it tends to follow the same pattern as the official unemployment rate.

Beyond the unemployment rate, a key metric in the monthly jobs report is the labor force participation rate – the share of the 16-and-over civilian non-institutional population either working or looking for work. The participation rate rose for several decades, peaked in early 2000 at 67.3%, then began falling; in January it was 62.9%, about where it was in the late 1970s.

Labor economists generally agree that waves of retiring Baby Boomers explain part (but not all) of the decline, which has been [o]especially steep for men in their prime working years.

... There’s also the employment-population ratio, which measures employed people as a percentage of the 16-and-over civilian non-institutional population. Though the ratio has some quirks, it’s less affected by seasonal variations or short-term fluctuations in labor-market behavior than the unemployment rate. According to the January jobs report, the seasonally adjusted employment-population ratio was 59.9%, three-tenths of a percentage point higher than it was a year earlier.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/03/07/employment-vs-unemploy
ment-different-stories-from-the-jobs-numbers
/

Many people have either gone back to school or stayed on school (and live with mom and dad) or have applied for disability which takes them out of the official labor force.

Probably the least "interpreted" measure of labor force utilization is the employment to population ratio, which looks like this ...




Hahaha - You got busted using a bullshit list and now you try and deflect. That's "It's never me" SIGGY. I await your next lie.

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Friday, June 23, 2017 10:08 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


Quote:

Hahaha - You got busted using a bullshit list and now you try and deflect. That's "It's never me" SIGGY. - GSTRING
I simply posted the basic data from which the other measures are calculated.

Quote:

I await your next lie.- GSTRING

I await your next pointless personal attack, GSTRING.

Quote:

Labor economists generally agree that waves of retiring Baby Boomers explain part (but not all) of the decline, which has been especially steep for men in their prime working years.
Men in their prime working years are not about to retire.


So, do you REALLY want to know what's going on, or not? Or do you want to stick with the story that everything is just fine in happy-land? Because if that's the case, I have some slightly used Democratic polling numbers to sell you.

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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
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I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Sunday, June 25, 2017 5:03 AM

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The thing is that is not how things went. Obama for years talked about infrastructure, yet he was blocked. Now Trump comes along and says the same thing and "Oh, what a great idea, let's do that!"

Yet, here we are. Has anything been done yet? Has Trump even started his domestic job agenda? Has he appointed anyone to run that? What about the Republican-controlled houses? Have they even talked about a jobs agenda? The shoe is on the other foot now, isn't it?


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
True. Trump is heaven for the rich, hell for all others.

We already knew the Democrat was going to lose. The Koch brothers got involved.

There is literally no election they can't buy.

Since Citizens United, our government is for sale to the highest bidder, and no one bids higher than the Kochs.

Democrats would win if they had something to offer for the average American who just wants a job at a decent wage. Yes, EVERYONE should have an equal shot at success, but turning us into a rollerball of competing victim-groups isn't the solution for what ails us. We jobs at decent wages for everyone.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one



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Sunday, June 25, 2017 5:05 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Now, now children...mustn't fight. We will get nowhere like this.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Hahaha - You got busted using a bullshit list and now you try and deflect. That's "It's never me" SIGGY. - GSTRING
I simply posted the basic data from which the other measures are calculated.

Quote:

I await your next lie.- GSTRING

I await your next pointless personal attack, GSTRING.

Quote:

Labor economists generally agree that waves of retiring Baby Boomers explain part (but not all) of the decline, which has been especially steep for men in their prime working years.
Men in their prime working years are not about to retire.


So, do you REALLY want to know what's going on, or not? Or do you want to stick with the story that everything is just fine in happy-land? Because if that's the case, I have some slightly used Democratic polling numbers to sell you.

-----------

"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one



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Sunday, June 25, 2017 9:07 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
The thing is that is not how things went. Obama for years talked about infrastructure, yet he was blocked. Now Trump comes along and says the same thing and "Oh, what a great idea, let's do that!"



Blocked ? No, you're kidding, right? Remember ' shovel ready jobs ' ? Which turned out to be ' not so shovel ready '?

* The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (ARRA)


The approximate cost of the economic stimulus package was estimated to be $787 billion at the time of passage, later revised to $831 billion between 2009 and 2019.[1] The ARRA's rationale was based on the Keynesian economic theory that, during recessions, the government should offset the decrease in private spending with an increase in public spending in order to save jobs and stop further economic deterioration.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Recovery_and_Reinvestment_Act_o
f_2009




Quote:

Yet, here we are. Has anything been done yet? Has Trump even started his domestic job agenda? Has he appointed anyone to run that? What about the Republican-controlled houses? Have they even talked about a jobs agenda? The shoe is on the other foot now, isn't it?


SGG




The shoe IS on the other foot, and while it is a valid question - what does Trump have to show for it yet - he is having to deal w/ a bunch of partisan baloney that Obama didn't face at the same time of his first term.

OH, you think he didn't ? While the GOP voted against him, they didn't have the legislative numbers to block ANYTHING Obama wanted. There in lies the big difference.

Also... no where will you find the GOP leadership SOOO over the top in their vitriol, obstruction, and outright seething hatred for the President. No one was outwardly bleating about 'Impeach 44!' like we have legislators doing to Trump. Not even close.







* In May 2016, the chairman of the U.S. Senate Finance Committee, Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT), launched the first steps of an investigation into a part of the stimulus law that gave grants to solar and green energy companies. Hatch sent a letter to the IRS and Treasury Department with a list of questions about the program. According to the Wall Street Journal, letters from senior senators who chair committees can lead to formal investigations by Congress.[107]

One part of the stimulus law, section 1603, gave cash grants to solar companies to encourage investment in solar technology. Because many companies didn't yet make a profit in 2009 in that industry, they were offered cash instead of tax credits. Recently, in September 2015, the government asked that a Spanish company return $1 million it had received from the program. The company issued a statement saying it fully complied with the request.[107]

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Sunday, June 25, 2017 11:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
The thing is that is not how things went. Obama for years talked about infrastructure, yet he was blocked. Now Trump comes along and says the same thing and "Oh, what a great idea, let's do that!"

Yet, here we are. Has anything been done yet? Has Trump even started his domestic job agenda? Has he appointed anyone to run that? What about the Republican-controlled houses? Have they even talked about a jobs agenda? The shoe is on the other foot now, isn't it?




Really, I'm not in the business of making any excuses for politicians. Never has playing the Devil's Advocate put me in the position of actually supporting one before, so this is all new to me.

That being said, where do you suppose you would find the time to focus on anything important if you were Trump? The MSM has not allowed him one single day to do his actual job since he took the office.

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Sunday, June 25, 2017 3:28 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Now, even if the US economy continues improving—as most expect—it doesn’t mean that labor-force participation will rebound. Rather, it’s likely to keep declining for at least the next 10 years, as the baby-boomers continue to age out of the workforce.
Quote:

Labor economists generally agree that waves of retiring Baby Boomers explain part (but not all) of the decline, which has been especially steep for men in their prime working years.
Speaking of GEEBERS' lies -

I've posted this before, so I guess he doesn't let facts get in the way of a lie he likes a lot.




I'm not seeing a lot of older people retiring out of the laborforce. How about you, GEEBERS? Do you agree?


And his 'source'? Quartz Media goes on my list of propaganda sites, since its article doesn't survive the simplest google search.




Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Sunday, June 25, 2017 7:58 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


You guys need to get a clue. Democrats LOST THE WHITE HOUSE. Republicans STILL CONTROL Congress, and GAINED two governorships in 2016. And democrats have LOST EVERY SINGLE SPECIAL ELECTION in 2017.

DOODS - what you're doing IS NOT working! And every single post of yours indicates that you STILL, do NOT have a clue.


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Gracious, to the last!

Because ad hominems are ALWAYS helpful!
Quote:

Which direction are we going in?
SGG

You must be punch drunk. Democrats are going downhill.
Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Another great Republican Win.....this in a Republican stronghold, or should I say stranglehold.

Despite a 7 to 1 spending advantage - A DEMOCRAT LOST. Maybe that should give you pause to consider how that could possibly happen.
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More power to you! Now which direction are we going in?
SGG

Still downhill from 2016.
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Originally posted by SECOND:
Texas is paradise for straight white male Republicans who are unemployed.

So very oriented to the problem at hand, SECOND. Not.
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
True. Trump is heaven for the rich, hell for all others.
We already knew the Democrat was going to lose. The Koch brothers got involved.
There is literally no election they can't buy.
Since Citizens United, our government is for sale to the highest bidder, and no one bids higher than the Kochs.

Now here's RF COMPLETELY blowing past a vital fact - democrats outspent republicans 7 to 1 in this race. Apparently, only republican money is good enough to buy elections.
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Originally posted by SECOND:
Politics doesn't work the way you are implying.

Isn't that precious. SECOND pretending to know something about politics while completely avoiding the salient fact - NOT EVEN A 7 TO 1 SPENDING ADVANTAGE IS ENOUGH TO GET a democrat elected.
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Originally posted by GEEBERS:
So unemployment is down and employment is up - funny, it appears to be the exact opposite of what you said...am I reading those wrong?

And GEEBERS, avoiding the topic AND lying his ass off. Again.
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Originally posted by SECOND:
The people voting for Republicanism know their place in the hierarchy and they bitterly resent that Democrats don't know or stay in their proper place in Texas. That is probably too cryptic. Real life examples that I've seen many times in Texas: "Why does that nigger Obama think he can tell me what to do?" or "Those goddamn stuck-up professors don't know how things are done in Texas." or "A woman will never be President of me!" That resentment toward Democrats will not ever go away even if Democrats run different campaigns with enticing promises.
Did I forget to mention that Texas Republicans hate the idea of government spending money on poor people? Even poor Republicans hate that idea, except when the money is spent on them, because nobody but them deserves help, certainly not niggers or mexicans. "Hand up, no hand outs" is their motto. Democratic politicians wouldn't be Democrats if they hated poor people as much as Republican voters do.

Hispanics (of any race) were 37.6% of the population of the state, 11.8% African American; 3.8%, Asian American; 0.7%, American Indian; 0.1%, native Hawaiian or Pacific islander only; 10.5% of the population were of some other race only; and 2.7% were of two ... that adds up to 32.8% Anglos. And half of them are women. Are you telling me Texas keeps electing republicans to cater to those 16.9% Anglo males?
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Originally posted by SECOND:
It was like electing a black governor in a formerly Confederate state -- that governor won't last and was only elected because of a fluke -- losing the Civil War. Richard sic got elected because Republican Governor Sourpuss was such a fuck-up.

So there IS a level below which republicans will pay a price?
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
they are "yellow belly, lilly livered varmints. I'm gonna fill ya full of lead."
Ahhh, I feel better already.
SGG

That's important, Shiner. Think whatever makes you feel good.
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Originally posted by GEEBERS:
No, I see what's going on. The problem with you is you lie all the time.

AAAAAAAAaand - ASIDE FROM LYING, AGAIN - GEEBERS is trolling. Again. Because that will really help democrats get a clue.
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Originally posted by GEEBERS:
Hahaha - You got busted using a bullshit list and now you try and deflect. That's "It's never me" SIGGY. I await your next lie.

AAAAAAAAaand GEEBERS, trolling. Again. Because that will really help democrats get a clue.
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
The thing is that is not how things went. Obama for years talked about infrastructure, yet he was blocked. Now Trump comes along and says the same thing and "Oh, what a great idea, let's do that!"
Yet, here we are. Has anything been done yet? Has Trump even started his domestic job agenda? Has he appointed anyone to run that? What about the Republican-controlled houses? Have they even talked about a jobs agenda? The shoe is on the other foot now, isn't it?

You got it ALL figured out Shiner. Apparently - democrats are offering exactly the same thing as republicans - they just don't talk so good!
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Now, now children...mustn't fight. We will get nowhere like this.

I don't think you're going to figure out where democrats are going wrong, if you think all it needs is one kumbaya moment.




Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Sunday, June 25, 2017 8:09 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


So, all you whiners - you liars - you refugees from reality -

Here's the hard truth. The democrats outspent the republicans 7 to 1 and STILL could not buy an election.

Do you have the notion by now that what democrats are offering is poison? That people won't go for it no matter how much advertising there is? Do you think that just maybe the democrats need to change course?






Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Sunday, June 25, 2017 10:40 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


A couple of weeks before the election, it was reported that Jon was 7pts up on Karen. The ads only picked up. Every radio, t.v. channel... freaking almost non stop. I got a knock on my door, 2 nice looking, well dressed kids, but clearly pimping for Ossoff. I politely told them no thank you...

Even before the vulgar anti-Handel flyers showing up in yards or over a dozen letters filled with threats and white powder ( baking soda ) , there was something that just got folks motivated to come out and say 'enough!'.

I said before the election, if the Democrats lost, it would be close and they'd declare victory.

It wasn't that close. Handel won by 5-6 %, and sure enough... VICTORY! was declared by the Dems.

Unbelievable. Yet not, because they're so predictable.

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Sunday, June 25, 2017 11:08 PM

REAVERFAN

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Sunday, June 25, 2017 11:20 PM

RIVERLOVE


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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Here's the hard truth. The democrats outspent the republicans 7 to 1 and STILL could not buy an election.

Do you have the notion by now that what democrats are offering is poison? That people won't go for it no matter how much advertising there is? Do you think that just maybe the democrats need to change course?





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