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Cruz drops out, Trump presumptive nominee

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UPDATED: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 17:59
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Wednesday, May 4, 2016 10:15 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


So now, we have to discuss Trump seriously.

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Wednesday, May 4, 2016 10:18 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


China Warns 'Will Respond To Trump Presidency'

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Speaking through its mouthpiece Global Times, China has published its first reaction to "unpredictable" Trump's position as presumptive Republican nominee and their expectations of a Trump vs Clinton fight for The White House...

The GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump won a sweeping victory in the Indiana Republican primary on Tuesday, dealing a heavy blow to his rival Ted Cruz, who dropped out of the race later that night. Trump cleared his way to the Republican nomination for the 2016 US presidential election. Chairman of the Republican National Committee Reince Priebus declared Trump to be the party's "presumptive" presidential nominee and called for unity against Hillary Clinton.

Trump's breakthrough in the Republican primaries has caused a sensation in US politics, public discourse and the international community. At the beginning of the race, most analysts and observers believed that Trump was no more than a clown. A few months ago, few people believed that the endgame would be between Trump and Clinton.

Although many analysts still insist the odds are in favor of Clinton, they are somewhat uncertain about the final result. Trump's performance in the primaries has proven them wrong. Why can't the unstoppable candidate prove them wrong again?

If Trump really captures the White House, what will it mean? This scenario is becoming increasingly serious.

The US traditional political elite and media have long ignored the drastic changes in US society. Rising against the repression of the GOP establishment and the mockery of US mainstream media, Trump will substantially shake the conventional US' way of operation. Acquiring more authority from US society, he will be expected to bring in more reforms, that might change many established policies.

According to Trump's current policy proposals, a Trump-led US might be inclined to isolationism and attach more importance to "America First," and American economy. Ideology will be downplayed. Washington might engage in more squabbles with its free-riding allies, and tighten up its immigration policy which as a result will upset the Latin Americans. After enjoying massive trade surplus from the US for years, China and Japan will be demanded by Washington to widen market access.

If Clinton is elected, the US politics will be more predictable and revolve around the previous orbit. Although Washington is expected to be tougher on Beijing, its policies are controllable. While Trump represents pragmatism, Clinton prioritizes ideology in political affairs. To China, this distinction is more important. Clinton sees the Sino-US relationship from a traditional perspective, and Trump from a much newer viewpoint. The latter will bring changes to the Sino-US relationship.

However, a single individual is unable to dictate the Sino-US relationship and the US domestic issues. If elected, Trump will be restricted by interior and exterior realities. As a result, he will be subject to "transformation." In fact, the "transformation" is an interaction between Trump and the US. He will be more prudent if taking office in the White House. In fact, compared with the past, Trump has become more attentive to his words.

If elected as the president, Trump's ability to take action and make change will not be as great as suggested by his unrestrained performances. He has already "created history" today. Even if he is defeated by Clinton, Trump has deeply impressed the US politics.

The US election pattern is basically finalized: Trump versus Clinton. It will be a super political show, attracting unprecedented attention and closely bound up to the world interests. While Trump is a practical business tycoon subverting US political correctness, Clinton is a former secretary of state and former first lady, representative of US political correctness and the mainstream thoughts.

Improving strength is the most reliable way to respond to the US uncertainties. We believe that no matter Trump or Clinton, they will see a "China with strength" from different perspectives.



So it would appear China favors the "status quo" of Clinton and while not fearing a Trump presidency, is more than willing to respond to any isolationist actions with "strength."



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-04/china-warns-will-respond-trum
p-presidency


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Wednesday, May 4, 2016 1:34 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


That's the Hilary presidency sewn up then. Great stuff.

Hilary as president will drive the wingnuts crazy for 4 years, and the GOP voters will choose another extremist idiot in 2020. If she does a halfway decent job as president in the first few years she should secure two terms.

That's a by-no-means-certain 'if' however.

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Wednesday, May 4, 2016 6:40 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So now, we have to discuss Trump seriously.

Begin!


Now all candidates only old enough to be grandparents are out, leaving only 3 candidates old enough to be great-great-grandparents.

Had anybody predicted that the Republican ticket would be narrowed down to one before the Democrat ticket was? 17 serious candidates compared to the 2 on the Dem side.

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Thursday, May 5, 2016 4:30 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Well, it's official sports fans, Hell has frozen over.............at least until
Ted Cruz gets there with his father.

So much had been said about Trump never getting the nomination, yet here we are.
Now the real fun begins, talk about the Emperor has no clothes. Here's my contribution to this fiasco: I'm looking forward to the countdown and inevitable
questions about his policies (I almost threw up in my mouth even thinking that).

I'm also looking forward to his campaign promises coming to fruition. Let's list them shall we? Please feel free to chime in if I forget any.

1. The Great Wall - do you think that maybe he'll get the Mexican people to build
it, as well as, pay for it. That's a Two-fer.

2. The 11 Million Man march. The deportation and re-entry of all illegals in this country (What!?). Can't wait to see my tax dollars at work.

3. Repeal of Obamacare - Good luck with that one.

4. Jobs, makes sense once he deports the 11 million illegals. Smart guy!

5. Dismantle IRAN deal

6. Defeat ISIS quickly - that's a tough one and what exactly does quickly mean?

7. Ban Muslims from entering the country. This I gotta see.

8. Bust up the NAFTA and other trade deals

9. Fix the economy............it's already fixed (according to Bern). But yeah
Obama did that already. I assume Trump will take the credit.

10. Make this country Great again! Really!? it was great already and I hadn't
noticed that we were in trouble. Well, actually who cares about math and science; that's boring. We major in Beer Pong.

It's not easy keeping up with his lies. I'm going to go check on false hopes, I'll
be back in a minute.....


SGG


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Thursday, May 5, 2016 6:32 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Of course, the silver lining for all American citizens is that we get to keep Ted Cruz in the Senate.

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So now, we have to discuss Trump seriously.

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In his Playboy interview from around 1990, his policies were all the same as they are now, except that to run as President he would have to run as Democrat - even then he knew that only the lefty libtards of the Democrat party would support all of his wacky left-wing ideas.

Apparently The Donald believes that the left-wing extremist liberals that are the New York Republicans really are the heart of the GOP. Now that he has vanquished all those pesky conservatives he can start toppling to the left and all will follow. Exactly the same blueprint Romney had - and that worked out so well.
Reince Priebus has let all opportunites slip away, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

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Friday, May 6, 2016 2:42 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Those are all Good SGG. One of Trump's "gifts" is his ability to double talk and side step and duck and deflect, so I don't doubt he'll have much trouble explaining why none of these work out like he promised. AS WE ALL KNOW BY NOW... you just can't put any stock in what a candidate says before they are elected. ZERO.

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Oh, I'm all aware of the Trumpster's dancing ability (it's called the
Bullshit Shuffle) and he does it so convincingly......ahem! And yeah,
rational folk don't put any stock in what politicians promise - especially
this politician (P.T. Barnum would have loved this guy). So yeah, ZERO is
right. Lying sack of shit.

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I get a laugh and a chill when I picture him sitting with all of his chiefs of staff for the first time - what an image.

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Ditto, absolutely bone-chilling!

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I think any objective person looking at the colossal, over-sized clown car that was the republican line-up would not have ruled him out.
.....he beat 16 of the biggest losers ever to run for any public office. A little perspective please.

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Clown Car is dead on, and the people fell for that load of crap; It boggles
the mind. Are people so out of touch to actually want this mentally-challenged psychopath? Hell..........Handbasket, need I say more?

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but he'd be a 'uge disaster at home.

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To be clear: He IS a 'uge disaster. Nobody in the world wants this guy to
be POTUS. Right now the world over must be wondering what's going on over
there in the U.S. Even our intelligence community fear having to brief
his royal-pain-in-the-ass.

To be clear: His followers and supporters actually believe he's going to
keep his promises; that he's going to shake things up. What a surprise
they have coming.

At least it would be entertaining watching him tap dance.


SGG

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Saturday, May 7, 2016 8:02 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Curiously, I don't have (many) problems with Trump's policy (if he can be said to have one.) As far as I'm concerned, we should ban immigrants to the USA. Period. He wants to renegotiate our trade deals. I'm all for scuttling them, so he's halfway to my POV. He wants to bring jobs back to the USA. What's not to like about that? Wants to make nice with Russia. That's prolly a good idea! Wants to take on China as far as manufacturing is concerned. Well, it's a tough job but a laudable goal. He wants to defeat ISIS. ALSO a laudable goal.

The parts I'm NOT too happy with: Trump is a "birther". Really? He wants to take on Iran. Prolly NOT a good idea. He wants to deport 10 million illegal immigrants: In theory, great; in practice not so much. I'm sure out of the welter of thoughts that Trump has spewed on the campaign trail, I can find about a dozen more I'm not happy with.

What I want to know (like with most politicians): Will Trump DO what he SAYS?

So I went to a bio of him

http://www.biography.com/people/donald-trump-9511238#synopsis

and here's what I found: Trump is very sensitive to the way things "feel". He tends to trust those for whom he has the greatest "feeling" ... family members, and communities with which he has the greatest contact. He's all about schmoozing. That makes him vulnerable to the influence of whoever contacts him most often.

In that way, he's effective in manipulating most Americans, because they're all about "schmoozing" too. Americans vote identity politics, and Trump "gets" the zeitgeist of the day: Americans are worried about their jobs. It's not racism, it's all about jobs. So Trump knows how to appeal to many Americans.

On the other hand, he's not good at cerebral decisions: long-range policy implications, for example. Don't expect consistency from The Donald: he hasn't thought things out that far in the future. What he's good at is "catching the wave".

Donald is all about ... himself. Everything is named after him. Except if it fails, and then it's not even part of history. I've spent some time wondering whether Donald Trump is a sociopath, a narcissist, or a maniac (there is no term that I know of for someone who spends most of his time in a manic state). I can rule out sociopath: He pays far too much attention to what other people are thinking. He may a "maniac" (or whatever people who spend all of their time in a manic state are called). People in manic states tend to have grandiose plans and can be very persuasive. That's The Donald!

So, what does this all mean?

Assuming that The Donald gets elected, he'll be surrounded by Congress, advisors, and lobbyists. And of course, he gets to choose his appointees.

I suspect he won't choose anyone except the people he trusts. How does anyone feel about his wife or daughter ... or some other unsual choice ... being chosen for Scy Defense or Scy State?

He will probably remain faithful to "the wave" that got him elected, as long as he thinks that wave will support him. I'm going to have to think about whether the American electorate can actually influence policy post-election, or will that sharp and pointed support get bogged down in the jello that is "K" street? Also, will The Donald be smart enough to nurture the populism that got him elected?

Ultimately, the question - as with most candidates- is: Will he accomplish what he's promised, or at least be steadfast in his pursuit of those goals? I'm not seeing much "stedfastness" in The Donald. OTOH, he may be better than Hillary, who is "steadfast" in all the wrong directions.



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Tuesday, May 10, 2016 5:59 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Well, Cruz only suspended his campaign, didn't cancel it.

Says he can continue if he wins Nebraska today.

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