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Tuesday, April 12, 2016 7:26 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I tried a search for the threads discussing or disputing Censored Films or Books, but could not find what I was looking for. So here I put it in the title.

This time the talk is of Vaxxed. Banned from recent film festivals, including the Tribeca by Censor Robert DeNiro. He didn't want the truth to be exposed to the light of day, or his Film Festival.
Seems to be a documentary about scientifically proven facts, not the Michael Moore type fake-umentary jibberish. Plus the coverup and denials of the Libtards and other government-control-is-best freaks.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5562652/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

Yes, I do understand that some of you pro-autism fanatics do not want the cause to be exposed, either. Tough, too late now.

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Tuesday, April 12, 2016 10:16 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

This time the talk is of Vaxxed. . . .

Yes, I do understand that some of you pro-autism fanatics do not want the cause to be exposed, either. Tough, too late now.

Did you know that Andrew Wakefield directed Vaxxed?

Did you know that Andrew Wakefield published a study in The Lancet suggesting that vaccines caused autism?

Did you know that in 2010 Andrew Wakefield's vaccine study was retracted?

Did you know that Wakefield's medical license was revoked due to "ethical violations and a failure to disclose financial conflicts of interest" and for his invention of evidence linking the MMR vaccine to autism?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaxxed

Did you know that Vaxxed is not some sort of disinterested investigation into the 'vaccines cause autism' hoax, but is directed by the person who perpetuated the hoax?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, April 12, 2016 10:18 PM

DEVERSE

Hey, Ive been in a firefight before! Well, I was in a fire. Actually, I was fired from a fry-cook opportunity.


The film was "censored"?




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Tuesday, April 12, 2016 10:39 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by DEVERSE:

The film was "censored"?

Andrew Wakefield, the director of the film, was censored for 12 counts involving the abuse of developmentally challenged children. Andrew Wakefield also planned to launch a venture on the back of an MMR vaccination scare that would profit from new medical tests and "litigation driven testing". Put your trust in Andrew Wakefield. Why would he lie to you? For money, a cynic would say.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wakefield

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Tuesday, April 12, 2016 10:46 PM

DEVERSE

Hey, Ive been in a firefight before! Well, I was in a fire. Actually, I was fired from a fry-cook opportunity.



http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com


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Tuesday, April 12, 2016 11:12 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


The U.S. cost of autism over the lifespan is about $2.4 million for a person with an intellectual disability, or $1.4 million for a person without intellectual disability.
www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-06-09/autism-costs-more-than-2-mi
llion-over-patient-s-life


I saw "What Causes Autism" at www.mychildwithoutlimits.org/understand/autism/what-causes-autism/

In the past several years, there has been interest in a theory that suggested a link between autism and the use of thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative used in the measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine. Although mercury is no longer found in childhood vaccines in the United States, some parents still have concerns about vaccinations.

However, many well-done, large-scale studies have now been performed that have failed to show a link between thimerosal and autism. A panel from the Institute of Medicine is now examining these studies. The reports include a large Danish study that concluded that there was no causal relationship between childhood vaccination using thimerosal-containing vaccines and the development of an autism spectrum disorder and a U.S. study looking at exposure to mercury, lead, and other heavy metals. Both the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention asert that there is no link between autism and the MMR vaccine or any other vaccine.

Other potential causes of autism are environmental toxins, including pesticides and heavy metals such as mercury. Heavy metals are certainly more commonly encountered in the environment now than they were in the past. It may be that people with autism or those at higher risk for developing it are more sensitive than others to these toxins.

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Wednesday, April 13, 2016 5:14 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
The U.S. cost of autism over the lifespan is about $2.4 million for a person with an intellectual disability, or $1.4 million for a person without intellectual disability.






Without reading any more, I have to stop it at this, respectfully, Second....


I'm not autistic, but without having ever been diagnosed, I believe myself very much to be OCD and possibly suffering from Asperger Syndrome...

High functioning, yes, but still... Nobody here would deny I'm without problems, and at 36 years old and perpetually single and all but a hermit in real life it's getting very hard to even pretend to people I care about that I'm even close to "normal".


$1.4 million for a person WITHOUT intellectual disability????

I live on my own. I made about 1.5k last year working. I made roughly 3k on unemployment. I withdrew about 2k of my retirement savings.

Under 7 Thousand Dollars.

That's what I lived on last year, no joke, and some of that retirement I just banked because this was my worst year so far and I knew now was the time to withdraw it because almost no taxes on it. And I'm going to get about 1/10th of that back in income tax return.


I could live another 100 years at that rate and it would only cost 700k. Chances are, I've only got another 25 years in me at most, so that would be more like 180k...




Bloated figures is how we got to $5 dollars for a pound of ground beef in the first place....








Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, April 13, 2016 5:39 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
The U.S. cost of autism over the lifespan is about $2.4 million for a person with an intellectual disability, or $1.4 million for a person without intellectual disability.

Without reading any more, I have to stop it at this, respectfully, Second....

$1.4 million for a person WITHOUT intellectual disability????

I live on my own. I made about 1.5k last year working. I made roughly 3k on unemployment. I withdrew about 2k of my retirement savings.

Under 7 Thousand Dollars.

On $7,000 per year, you could be middle class in the Philippines. Or a prince (or princess, depending) in rural India. You could also become a Buddhist while there. It's the thing to do when you've got problems. And they speak English is those two countries, too.

On the other hand, Bloomberg's estimate of $1,400,000 divided by the 25 more years you think you've got will give you $56,000 per year right where you are. You'd definitely be middle class without needing a passport or visa to India. And I think that is what Bloomberg was going for: living a middle class life even though there is autism in the family. And you could still become a Buddhist from the comfort of your own home in the heartland of America, without ever going to India.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, April 13, 2016 5:45 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
The U.S. cost of autism over the lifespan is about $2.4 million for a person with an intellectual disability, or $1.4 million for a person without intellectual disability.

Without reading any more, I have to stop it at this, respectfully, Second....

$1.4 million for a person WITHOUT intellectual disability????

I live on my own. I made about 1.5k last year working. I made roughly 3k on unemployment. I withdrew about 2k of my retirement savings.

Under 7 Thousand Dollars.

On $7,000 per year, you could be middle class in the Philippines. Or a prince (or princess, depending) in rural India. You could also become a Buddhist while there. It's the thing to do when you've got problems. And they speak English is those two countries, too.

On the other hand, Bloomberg's estimate of $1,400,000 divided by the 25 more years you think you've got will give you $56,000 per year right where you are. You'd definitely be middle class without needing a passport or visa to India. And I think that is what Bloomberg was going for: living a middle class life even though there is autism in the family. And you could still become a Buddhist from the comfort of your own home in the heartland of America, without ever going to India.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



So what's youre point? Who do I have to vote for to get to sit on my ass and hide in my house everyday for the rest of my life and get paid more per year than I ever made when I was actually successful and gave a shit about life?

Do Right, Be Right. :)



EDITED TO ADD: I don't believe I'm Autistic. I'm confident I'm OCD, and I'm pretty sure there's some Ass Burgers in there. :)

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Wednesday, April 13, 2016 6:21 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

This time the talk is of Vaxxed. . . .

Yes, I do understand that some of you pro-autism fanatics do not want the cause to be exposed, either. Tough, too late now.

Did you know that Andrew Wakefield directed Vaxxed?

Did you know that Andrew Wakefield published a study in The Lancet suggesting that vaccines caused autism?

Did you know that in 2010 Andrew Wakefield's vaccine study was retracted?

Did you know that Wakefield's medical license was revoked


In the UK. (not University of Kentucky)
Quote:



Did you know that Vaxxed is not some sort of disinterested investigation into the 'vaccines cause autism' hoax, but is directed by the person who perpetuated the hoax?


Did you know the producer and writer of Vaxxed was also the producer of TV show The Doctors and was bound not to expose the Vaccination links to Autism (proven by the CDC in their own study, and then whitewashed, which is what this film is about) due to conflicts of interest from the advertizers of the show's commercials?
Perhaps you would be happier if he hired somebody who had no clue about the subject? And the director still followed the writer's script.

And should you genuflect to everything wiki posts? Before all of the corrections come it?
Do you really genuflect to everything CDC says?

Other balanced reading:
https://sharylattkisson.com/cdc-responds-to-allegation-it-omitted-vacc
ine-autism-study-link
/


http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/cdc-epidemiologist-whistleblo
wer-confirms-new-review-showing-vaccine-autism-link-1946409.htm


http://time.com/3208886/whistleblower-claims-cdc-covered-up-data-showi
ng-vaccine-autism-link
/

How is it that the whistleblower himself, issuing his apology through his attorney, admits the fraudulent omission, yet you still proclaim that the omission which clearly exists does not exist? Beyond the hoopla and fingerpointing, the facts remain in evidence and the CDC and other Libtards hope you won't notice the facts. Apparently you have acquiesced and ignored the relevant facts.

For casual readers: the study was in 2004. One author and now CDC Director of Immunization, is and has always been an Immunization activist who is well known for debunking any Autism-vaccine link which does not shiine a kind light upon him or his fascination.

The whitewashed study summary:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14754936

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/113/2/259?variant=abstra
ct&sso=1&sso_redirect_count=1&nfstatus=401&nftoken=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000&nfstatusdescription=ERROR%3a+No+local+token

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Wednesday, April 13, 2016 6:51 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

So what's youre point? Who do I have to vote for to get to sit on my ass and hide in my house everyday for the rest of my life and get paid more per year than I ever made when I was actually successful and gave a shit about life?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

EDITED TO ADD: I don't believe I'm Autistic. I'm confident I'm OCD, and I'm pretty sure there's some Ass Burgers in there. :)

I've always got a point. One point is that I could fix your life but I won't because you're your problem, not mine. Second point: vote for the Democrat because the Republican is always lying. But there is no election today, so you can't do that. Third: why am I bothering? You won't do it.

So, the first thing you should have done is find out where that high number of $1,400,000 came from. I'll do it for you since you're helpless. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24911948
http://archpedi.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1879723

It says: "The largest cost components for children were special education services and parental productivity loss. During adulthood, residential care or supportive living accommodation and individual productivity loss contributed the highest costs. Medical costs were much higher for adults than for children."

I suspect you are experiencing individual productivity loss. Translating that to English: You are missing out on income because of your OCD or whatever it is that ails you. Maybe you should sue the manufacturers of vaccines?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, April 13, 2016 7:58 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

And should you genuflect to everything wiki posts? Before all of the corrections come it?
Do you really genuflect to everything CDC says?

I have the ultimate source: The Hollywood Reporter, which I shall now quote from.
www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/anti-vaccine-doc-vaxxed-a-882651

One problem.

If MMR really does cause autism, why hadn’t the link been found in 15 other studies, many of which included African-Americans and almost all of which didn’t involve the CDC? Are there other whistleblowers who just haven’t come forward yet? The real explanation for Vaxxed's “revelation” isn’t conspiracy or hidden data; it’s something else. When compared with their Caucasian counterparts, African-American boys in Atlanta in 1994 were under-vaccinated. In order to qualify for autism-support programs, this subset of under-vaccinated children with autism had to get vaccinated. In other words, it wasn’t that MMR had caused autism; it was that the diagnosis of autism had caused them to get MMR. Not surprisingly, this is never explained in the film.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, April 14, 2016 7:37 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

And should you genuflect to everything wiki posts? Before all of the corrections come it?
Do you really genuflect to everything CDC says?

I have the ultimate source: The Hollywood Reporter, which I shall now quote from.
www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/anti-vaccine-doc-vaxxed-a-882651


The greatest source of scientific discussion is ..... The Hollywood Reporter????

And in the "report" or STORYLINE of your link, it claims that the whistleblower did not step forward, when in fact he did actually admit, via statement through his attorney, to the omission of facts in the study, which is the focus of the coverup. His attorney would certainly not allow him to step forward any more obviously than that, through his attornet, so that the whistleblower does not find himself in more hot water due, since he is already in hot water for disclosing the truth that CDC has worked so hard to coverup and whitewash.

What's going on here?
Are you keeping your blinders on?
Do you have some unbiased points to make, perhaps based in truth and fact?
Rehashing the same storyline does not further your theory.

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Thursday, April 14, 2016 8:50 PM

DEVERSE

Hey, Ive been in a firefight before! Well, I was in a fire. Actually, I was fired from a fry-cook opportunity.


Having an intelligent discussion with an anti-vaxxer is just not going to work.

They all believe in the Grand Unified Conspiracy Theory that the reptilian aliens from Niribu who crashed at Roswell and based out of Area 51 have taken over world governments so they could fake the moon landings to hide the secret Nazi bases that have been taken over by the cabal of the Illuminati, Skull and Bones, the Freemansons, the Bilderbergers and the 9 Angels who are working towards a New World Order by killing off the world's population using fluoridation, vaccination, GMOs, ebola, and the Codex Alimentarius so they can support big pharma who raise the funds for chem trails and subliminal messages in advertisements that will keep the population complacent until they can get cold fusion power to fully run HAARP and other weather manipulation machines in Russia and China that cause Global Warming and that made them kill JFK and Princess Diana because they knew too much and didn't cooperate so when the bad weather gets people to turn to FEMA for help they will be herded into death camps and killed by the AIDS virus that was developed by the CIA.

They know this because they have gained the knowledge from the most fact filled and substantiated source of scientific information known to mankind, some guys website on the interwebs.

Now, with all this irrefutable, factual, scientific proof; how can anyone possibly convince an anti-vaxxer to see anything different, especially when using something experts in the field have published as a source for their debate?
You lost before you started.



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With stars to fill my dream;
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Thursday, April 14, 2016 11:40 PM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
The U.S. cost of autism over the lifespan is about $2.4 million for a person with an intellectual disability, or $1.4 million for a person without intellectual disability.
www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-06-09/autism-costs-more-than-2-mi
llion-over-patient-s-life


I saw "What Causes Autism" at www.mychildwithoutlimits.org/understand/autism/what-causes-autism/

In the past several years, there has been interest in a theory that suggested a link between autism and the use of thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative used in the measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine. Although mercury is no longer found in childhood vaccines in the United States, some parents still have concerns about vaccinations.

However, many well-done, large-scale studies have now been performed that have failed to show a link between thimerosal and autism. A panel from the Institute of Medicine is now examining these studies. The reports include a large Danish study that concluded that there was no causal relationship between childhood vaccination using thimerosal-containing vaccines and the development of an autism spectrum disorder and a U.S. study looking at exposure to mercury, lead, and other heavy metals. Both the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention asert that there is no link between autism and the MMR vaccine or any other vaccine.

Other potential causes of autism are environmental toxins, including pesticides and heavy metals such as mercury. Heavy metals are certainly more commonly encountered in the environment now than they were in the past. It may be that people with autism or those at higher risk for developing it are more sensitive than others to these toxins.



More importantly, autism has been linked with SOMETHING else which is present AT BIRTH, well before vaccines are given to children. That "something else" is abnormally high levels of a naturally-occurring neurodevelopmental compound called "vasoactive intestinal peptide" (VIP).

Neuropeptides and neurotrophins in neonatal blood of children with autism or mental retardation Unfortunately only available thru Wiley Online Library. VIP is also associated with mental retardation.

Whatever is going on, it's going on in utero, before birth. Possibly exposure of the mother to something, or lack of something. The link is very strong, much stronger than anything demonstrated by the vaccine-crowd.





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Friday, April 15, 2016 1:07 AM

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fwiw

There's a very high incidence of autism in families I work with.

One couple, China born and raised, had their first child (son) shortly after coming to the US who's deeply autistic. Another couple, mother Mexico born and raised, living in the US from adulthood, father US born and raised, second child (son) with Asperger's. Third couple, born and raised in Ethiopia, in the US for under 10 years, first child (daughter) deeply autistic.

It's pretty obviously not a fat-stored persistent chemical since the parents had their infancy through adulthood in vastly different places exposed to vastly different chemicals. For a while I was leaning towards 'neo-nics' (insecticides neo-nicotinoid whose use rises a couple of years ahead of Asperger's, with the Asperger's curve following the neo-nic curve almost exactly). But then it could be the mothers' eating food containing supposedly safe food-grade emulsifiers (surfactants) that have recently been linked to gut destruction and auto-immune disease.




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Friday, April 15, 2016 4:04 AM

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Vaxxed is a piece of shit movie by a piece of shit director. Good for DeNiro recognizing that fact and pulling it from the Tribeca Film Festival.

Any comments!?


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I tried a search for the threads discussing or disputing Cencored Films or Books, but could not find what I was looking for. So here I put it in the title.

This time the talk is of Vaxxed. Banned from recent film festivals, including the Tribeca by Censor Robert DeNiro. He didn't want the truth to be exposed to the light of day, or his Film Festival.
Seems to be a documentary about scientifically proven facts, not the Michael Moore type fake-umentary jibberish. Plus the coverup and denials of the Libtards and other government-control-is-best freaks.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5562652/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

Yes, I do understand that some of you pro-autism fanatics do not want the cause to be exposed, either. Tough, too late now.


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Friday, April 15, 2016 7:45 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by DEVERSE:
Having an intelligent discussion with an anti-vaxxer is just not going to work.

They all believe in the Grand Unified Conspiracy Theory that the reptilian aliens from Niribu who crashed at Roswell and based out of Area 51 have taken over world governments so they could fake the moon landings to hide the secret Nazi bases that have been taken over by the cabal of the Illuminati, Skull and Bones, the Freemansons, the Bilderbergers and the 9 Angels who are working towards a New World Order by killing off the world's population using fluoridation, vaccination, GMOs, ebola, and the Codex Alimentarius so they can support big pharma who raise the funds for chem trails and subliminal messages in advertisements that will keep the population complacent until they can get cold fusion power to fully run HAARP and other weather manipulation machines in Russia and China that cause Global Warming and that made them kill JFK and Princess Diana because they knew too much and didn't cooperate so when the bad weather gets people to turn to FEMA for help they will be herded into death camps and killed by the AIDS virus that was developed by the CIA.

They know this because they have gained the knowledge from the most fact filled and substantiated source of scientific information known to mankind, some guys website on the interwebs.

Now, with all this irrefutable, factual, scientific proof; how can anyone possibly convince an anti-vaxxer to see anything different, especially when using something experts in the field have published as a source for their debate?
You lost before you started.



Oh let the sun beat down upon my face;
With stars to fill my dream;
I am a traveler of both time and space;
To be where I have been

I used to know where the smileys were on here, but not anymore. So, I'll just say HAHAHAHAHAHA! That was funny!

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Friday, April 15, 2016 5:39 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
fwiw

There's a very high incidence of autism in families I work with.

One couple, China born and raised, had their first child (son) shortly after coming to the US who's deeply autistic. Another couple, mother Mexico born and raised, living in the US from adulthood, father US born and raised, second child (son) with Asperger's. Third couple, born and raised in Ethiopia, in the US for under 10 years, first child (daughter) deeply autistic.

It's pretty obviously not a fat-stored persistent chemical since the parents had their infancy through adulthood in vastly different places exposed to vastly different chemicals. For a while I was leaning towards 'neo-nics' (insecticides neo-nicotinoid whose use rises a couple of years ahead of Asperger's, with the Asperger's curve following the neo-nic curve almost exactly). But then it could be the mothers' eating food containing supposedly safe food-grade emulsifiers (surfactants) that have recently been linked to gut destruction and auto-immune disease.


I am not sure why you are dealing with many immigrants.
Do you have information, from them or other means, regarding any prevalence of autism in their home countries, or outside America?

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Friday, April 15, 2016 5:45 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I tried a search for the threads discussing or disputing Cencored Films or Books, but could not find what I was looking for. So here I put it in the title.

This time the talk is of Vaxxed. Banned from recent film festivals, including the Tribeca by Censor Robert DeNiro. He didn't want the truth to be exposed to the light of day, or his Film Festival.
Seems to be a documentary about scientifically proven facts, not the Michael Moore type fake-umentary jibberish. Plus the coverup and denials of the Libtards and other government-control-is-best freaks.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5562652/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

Yes, I do understand that some of you pro-autism fanatics do not want the cause to be exposed, either. Tough, too late now.


Vaxxed is a piece of shit movie by a piece of shit director. Good for DeNiro recognizing that fact and pulling it from the Tribeca Film Festival.

Any comments!?


SGG


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Friday, April 15, 2016 5:51 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by DEVERSE:
Having an intelligent discussion with an anti-vaxxer is just not going to work.

They all believe in the Grand Unified Conspiracy Theory that the reptilian aliens from Niribu who crashed at Roswell and based out of Area 51 have taken over world governments so they could fake the moon landings to hide the secret Nazi bases that have been taken over by the cabal of the Illuminati, Skull and Bones, the Freemansons, the Bilderbergers and the 9 Angels who are working towards a New World Order by killing off the world's population using fluoridation, vaccination, GMOs, ebola, and the Codex Alimentarius so they can support big pharma who raise the funds for chem trails and subliminal messages in advertisements that will keep the population complacent until they can get cold fusion power to fully run HAARP and other weather manipulation machines in Russia and China that cause Global Warming and that made them kill JFK and Princess Diana because they knew too much and didn't cooperate so when the bad weather gets people to turn to FEMA for help they will be herded into death camps and killed by the AIDS virus that was developed by the CIA.

They know this because they have gained the knowledge from the most fact filled and substantiated source of scientific information known to mankind, some guys website on the interwebs.

Now, with all this irrefutable, factual, scientific proof; how can anyone possibly convince an anti-vaxxer to see anything different, especially when using something experts in the field have published as a source for their debate?
You lost before you started.



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With stars to fill my dream;
I am a traveler of both time and space;
To be where I have been


This should probably be in the Predictions thread.

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Friday, April 15, 2016 7:57 PM

DEVERSE

Hey, Ive been in a firefight before! Well, I was in a fire. Actually, I was fired from a fry-cook opportunity.


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
This should probably be in the Predictions thread.



Just as this should have been posted under the "Why are people so incredibly gullible?" thread to discuss how one becomes anti-vaxxer and believe that the film was censored.


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With stars to fill my dream;
I am a traveler of both time and space;
To be where I have been

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Friday, April 15, 2016 9:03 PM

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I'm always CHILL!


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BYE!


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I tried a search for the threads discussing or disputing Cencored Films or Books, but could not find what I was looking for. So here I put it in the title.

This time the talk is of Vaxxed. Banned from recent film festivals, including the Tribeca by Censor Robert DeNiro. He didn't want the truth to be exposed to the light of day, or his Film Festival.
Seems to be a documentary about scientifically proven facts, not the Michael Moore type fake-umentary jibberish. Plus the coverup and denials of the Libtards and other government-control-is-best freaks.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5562652/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

Yes, I do understand that some of you pro-autism fanatics do not want the cause to be exposed, either. Tough, too late now.


Vaxxed is a piece of shit movie by a piece of shit director. Good for DeNiro recognizing that fact and pulling it from the Tribeca Film Festival.

Any comments!?


SGG


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Friday, April 15, 2016 9:12 PM

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Did you know............................

The director, Andrew Wakefield, published a scientific paper in 1998 on the same topic as this documentary. Following many years of reviews and research, the outcomes described in the paper could not be reproduced, and it emerged that Wakefield had falsified and altered the data in the study, as well have having a series of financial conflicts of interest which were not declared in the paper. Wakefield was accused of carrying out unnecessary and unethical invasive procedures on autistic children and acting without ethical approval from the relevant authorities. After an investigation by the British Medical Council, 36 charges against him were upheld and he was struck off the medical register and permanently banned from practising medicine in the UK (and by extension the EU).

And this has to be the most irresponsible and stupid phrase here in RWED.

"Yes, I do understand that some of you pro-autism fanatics do not want the cause to be exposed, either. Tough, too late now."

Who, pray tell, in their right mind would be "pro-autism?" It boggles the mind
the level of sheer unadulterated lunacy that you spout. No one, no sane person anyway, no one would want such an illness to befall any child, much less support
or be a "fanatic" about it.

I have a grand nephew who has been diagnosed with a mild case of autism. A
beautiful kid who loves his mom and dad, and has trouble sleeping, among other
things. So this is something I don't take lightly. Regardless of politics, which
is what this is all about, there are human beings out there affected by this in some form. This so-called film should be seen, warts and all, and discussed in a forum setting so as to allow for a real-time determination.


SGG




Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I tried a search for the threads discussing or disputing Cencored Films or Books, but could not find what I was looking for. So here I put it in the title.

This time the talk is of Vaxxed. Banned from recent film festivals, including the Tribeca by Censor Robert DeNiro. He didn't want the truth to be exposed to the light of day, or his Film Festival.
Seems to be a documentary about scientifically proven facts, not the Michael Moore type fake-umentary jibberish. Plus the coverup and denials of the Libtards and other government-control-is-best freaks.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5562652/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

Yes, I do understand that some of you pro-autism fanatics do not want the cause to be exposed, either. Tough, too late now.


Vaxxed is a piece of shit movie by a piece of shit director. Good for DeNiro recognizing that fact and pulling it from the Tribeca Film Festival.

Any comments!?


SGG


This post generated 18 minutes after your post in this thread:

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Friday, April 15, 2016 10:27 PM

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Thank you Second. These are undeniable facts, which seems to escape some observers.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

This time the talk is of Vaxxed. . . .

Yes, I do understand that some of you pro-autism fanatics do not want the cause to be exposed, either. Tough, too late now.

Did you know that Andrew Wakefield directed Vaxxed?

Did you know that Andrew Wakefield published a study in The Lancet suggesting that vaccines caused autism?

Did you know that in 2010 Andrew Wakefield's vaccine study was retracted?

Did you know that Wakefield's medical license was revoked due to "ethical violations and a failure to disclose financial conflicts of interest" and for his invention of evidence linking the MMR vaccine to autism?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaxxed

Did you know that Vaxxed is not some sort of disinterested investigation into the 'vaccines cause autism' hoax, but is directed by the person who perpetuated the hoax?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Saturday, April 16, 2016 10:20 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Removing a movie from a film festival can hardly be called "censoring". The film- has it been officially banned by the government?

So, aside from the fact that the "facts" that the film presents are simply wrong, that the producer is an admitted fraud who cooked data to make his point, that the film has not been "banned" - merely excluded from a film festival, which is certainly within the rights of the festival organizers - and that nobody could possibly be "pro autism" ... what's wrong with the original post? You guys are being so picky!

The only thing that will settle the issue and stop the conspiracy theories will be when the cause(s) of autism is(are) finally sussed out, at least in broad scope, and a strategy found to deal with it. We saw the same thing with the AIDS epidemic: Even AFTER the retrovirus had been found there were still diehard conspiracists who insisted that the virus was just an adventitious finding. But once medications and prevention strategies, based on the retroviral hypothesis, began to be successful the conspiracy theorists died out. (Maybe literally.)

It may be very much like diabetes: an unfortunate interaction of heredity and modern lifestyle. While there are still many details to work out with Type II diabetes, one good strategy is to eat less and exercise more.

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Saturday, April 16, 2016 10:59 AM

WHOZIT


The film was dropped because it's a load of crap, these tinfoil hat wearing quacks have been trying for years to scare parents into NOT get their children vaccinated. Does anyone really think liberal Bobby D. is afraid of big Pharma? Next they'll be saying that if you step on cracks in the sidewalk your mother will get back problems.

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Thursday, April 21, 2016 7:09 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by DEVERSE:
Having an intelligent discussion with an anti-vaxxer is just not going to work.

They all believe in the Grand Unified Conspiracy Theory that the reptilian aliens from Niribu who crashed at Roswell and based out of Area 51 have taken over world governments so they could fake the moon landings to hide the secret Nazi bases that have been taken over by the cabal of the Illuminati, Skull and Bones, the Freemansons, the Bilderbergers and the 9 Angels who are working towards a New World Order by killing off the world's population using fluoridation, vaccination, GMOs, ebola, and the Codex Alimentarius so they can support big pharma who raise the funds for chem trails and subliminal messages in advertisements that will keep the population complacent until they can get cold fusion power to fully run HAARP and other weather manipulation machines in Russia and China that cause Global Warming and that made them kill JFK and Princess Diana because they knew too much and didn't cooperate so when the bad weather gets people to turn to FEMA for help they will be herded into death camps and killed by the AIDS virus that was developed by the CIA.

They know this because they have gained the knowledge from the most fact filled and substantiated source of scientific information known to mankind, some guys website on the interwebs.


You seem to have missed the fictional Holocaust, and the fantasy of spheroid Earth not being orbited by the Sun every day. Your claim that Oswald is not guilty is a bit obtuse, not worthy of your attempted discourse.

You have a comical post, but it seems you do not realize why.
Your post seems to have the same arguments as the Flat Earth subscribers, particularly when every rational and intellectual person on the planet knew Flat Earth was the fact. And the same arguments of those who knew that Area 51 or Broom Lake did not exist, poking fun at anybody who claimed that they did exist. Now that the government has admitted their existence, you have edited your history to remove that specific point.

So, which is it? Do you still claim Area 51 does not exist, even after admission? Do you think it was the testing facility for all Alien technologies derived from the UFO crash at Roswell?
And do we infer from your post that you firmly believe that Lee Harvey Oswald was the Lone Gunman who single-handedly shot JFK?
And you don't subscribe to the Global Warming religion?

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Friday, April 22, 2016 8:32 AM

DEVERSE

Hey, Ive been in a firefight before! Well, I was in a fire. Actually, I was fired from a fry-cook opportunity.


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
You seem to have missed the fictional Holocaust, and the fantasy of spheroid Earth not being orbited by the Sun every day. Your claim that Oswald is not guilty is a bit obtuse, not worthy of your attempted discourse.

You have a comical post, but it seems you do not realize why.
Your post seems to have the same arguments as the Flat Earth subscribers, particularly when every rational and intellectual person on the planet knew Flat Earth was the fact. And the same arguments of those who knew that Area 51 or Broom Lake did not exist, poking fun at anybody who claimed that they did exist. Now that the government has admitted their existence, you have edited your history to remove that specific point.

So, which is it? Do you still claim Area 51 does not exist, even after admission? Do you think it was the testing facility for all Alien technologies derived from the UFO crash at Roswell?
And do we infer from your post that you firmly believe that Lee Harvey Oswald was the Lone Gunman who single-handedly shot JFK?
And you don't subscribe to the Global Warming religion?



This is all you got? A hissy fit bordering on a full kitty conniption?

The delusional fantasy of your impotent indictments merely demonstrate how completely unarmed and vulnerable you are when engaged in a battle of wit or intellectual exchange.

As one who thinks there is some segment of society that is pro-autism; who uses words like "libtard" (probably because you think it shows how political savvy and oh so hipster you are); who hates government, but has a life of such ease and privilege they are too lazy and stupid to do anything about it except whine, bitch and moan (which makes me want to ask, are you a seagull? Cause if they aren't eating they're squawking, and if not eating or squawking, they're shitting, and you seem to fall into that category); who doesn't have the intellectual capacity to comprehend the difference between rejection and censorship; it was obvious you could not possibly come back with a reply that was even remotely logical or slightly entertaining as much as I had hoped.

Please, take another 7 days to mentally seethe and try and formulate some scathingly witty reply or rebuke; this last one was embarrassingly and woefully inadequate (a rating I would think every sexual partner you have ever had has graded you at). Take your time and try real hard OK?

Oh let the sun beat down upon my face;
With stars to fill my dream;
I am a traveler of both time and space;
To be where I have been

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Saturday, April 23, 2016 1:58 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by DEVERSE:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
You seem to have missed the fictional Holocaust, and the fantasy of spheroid Earth not being orbited by the Sun every day. Your claim that Oswald is not guilty is a bit obtuse, not worthy of your attempted discourse.

You have a comical post, but it seems you do not realize why.
Your post seems to have the same arguments as the Flat Earth subscribers, particularly when every rational and intellectual person on the planet knew Flat Earth was the fact. And the same arguments of those who knew that Area 51 or Broom Lake did not exist, poking fun at anybody who claimed that they did exist. Now that the government has admitted their existence, you have edited your history to remove that specific point.

So, which is it? Do you still claim Area 51 does not exist, even after admission? Do you think it was the testing facility for all Alien technologies derived from the UFO crash at Roswell?
And do we infer from your post that you firmly believe that Lee Harvey Oswald was the Lone Gunman who single-handedly shot JFK?
And you don't subscribe to the Global Warming religion?



This is all you got?


Sorry. I did forget to point out that you also missed Bigfoot.
Quote:


A hissy fit bordering on a full kitty conniption?

The delusional fantasy of your impotent indictments merely demonstrate how completely unarmed and vulnerable you are when engaged in a battle of wit or intellectual exchange.

As one who thinks there is some segment of society that is pro-autism; who uses words like "libtard" (probably because you think it shows how political savvy and oh so hipster you are); who hates government, but has a life of such ease and privilege they are too lazy and stupid to do anything about it except whine, bitch and moan (which makes me want to ask, are you a seagull? Cause if they aren't eating they're squawking, and if not eating or squawking, they're shitting, and you seem to fall into that category); who doesn't have the intellectual capacity to comprehend the difference between rejection and censorship; it was obvious you could not possibly come back with a reply that was even remotely logical or slightly entertaining as much as I had hoped.

Please, take another 7 days to mentally seethe and try and formulate some scathingly witty reply or rebuke; this last one was embarrassingly and woefully inadequate (a rating I would think every sexual partner you have ever had has graded you at). Take your time and try real hard OK?


So, to be clear, among all of your silly jibberish, you were unable to address one single point? Of all the points made, you were incapable of logically answering or responding to a single one?
Your level of intellectual dishonesty is staggering. Unless your claim is illiteracy.

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Monday, May 9, 2016 6:32 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I saw this covered on Full Measure yesterday.
And I think the same show also covered this:
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/us-military-cadets-under-investigation-black-
lives-matter-salute-photo-1558921

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Monday, May 9, 2016 7:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by DEVERSE:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
You seem to have missed the fictional Holocaust, and the fantasy of spheroid Earth not being orbited by the Sun every day. Your claim that Oswald is not guilty is a bit obtuse, not worthy of your attempted discourse.

You have a comical post, but it seems you do not realize why.
Your post seems to have the same arguments as the Flat Earth subscribers, particularly when every rational and intellectual person on the planet knew Flat Earth was the fact. And the same arguments of those who knew that Area 51 or Broom Lake did not exist, poking fun at anybody who claimed that they did exist. Now that the government has admitted their existence, you have edited your history to remove that specific point.

So, which is it? Do you still claim Area 51 does not exist, even after admission? Do you think it was the testing facility for all Alien technologies derived from the UFO crash at Roswell?
And do we infer from your post that you firmly believe that Lee Harvey Oswald was the Lone Gunman who single-handedly shot JFK?
And you don't subscribe to the Global Warming religion?



This is all you got?


You also seem to have missed Remote Viewing - or do you admit to the existence of psychic phenomena, which Joss has declared to be fiction or fantasy.

In the Full Measure piece, some libtard bimbo made clear that once libtards declare their delusions to be scientific fact, nobody should question them about it again. She specifically claimed that the Vaxxed subject should not be taken seriously but such certified knowledge like the Law of Global Warming should be accepted at first glance!! But wait, there is no Law of Global Warming!! And Sharyl immediately pointed out that Global Warming was a heavily disputed opinion, which the bimbo ignored and just steamrolled on. This bimbo was quite entertaining in her delusions and definitions of censorship, and the vid really should go viral.

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