MSM - What the What? by SHINYGOODGUY

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I keep hearing/reading about this MSM thing. Will somebody please explain to me just what that is?

I think I may know, but I want to be crystal clear about this in order to make my case. Anybody care to enlighten me? I find it fascinating.......MSM and the way of the world.

SGG

It means "Main stream media", or as I call it, "whores for the Democrat party."

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Thursday, October 1, 2015 8:34 PM

RAHLMACLAREN

"Damn yokels, can't even tell a transport ship ain't got no guns on it." - Jayne Cobb

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Originally posted by whozit:
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I keep hearing/reading about this MSM thing. Will somebody please explain to me just what that is?

I think I may know, but I want to be crystal clear about this in order to make my case. Anybody care to enlighten me? I find it fascinating.......MSM and the way of the world.

SGG

It means "Main stream media", or as I call it, "whores for the Democrat party."

And yet, they ALL ("liberal" and Faux alike) can't seem to shut up about Trump.

ShinyGG, The MSM are all of the biggest and popular media companies. The TV major networks: ABC, NBC, CBS, BBC; and the cable channels: CNN, MSNBC, Faux News. Most of these have their radio counterparts. Then, there's PBS and NPR for the slightly more enlightened crowd.

So, what is this "case" you're wanting to make? I'm intrigued.

Find here the Serenity you seek. -Tara Maclay

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Friday, October 2, 2015 7:01 AM

Main stream media, got it. I'm assuming that includes the good folks at Fox.

SGG

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Originally posted by whozit:
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I keep hearing/reading about this MSM thing. Will somebody please explain to me just what that is?

I think I may know, but I want to be crystal clear about this in order to make my case. Anybody care to enlighten me? I find it fascinating.......MSM and the way of the world.

SGG

It means "Main stream media", or as I call it, "whores for the Democrat party."

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Friday, October 2, 2015 7:33 AM

First of all, thanks for your response, I found it very interesting. I must say I had an idea that's what it meant, but I wanted to give folks a chance to tell me their take on it. I wanted an unfettered response.

I'm glad that you included all the major players in this category, because, quite frankly, there are those that refuse to include the Wide & Wonderful World of Faux News. Nonetheless, my thought on it is this: some folk think that MSM supports particular points of view or tries to influence the masses with their subliminal messages of liberal thinking and, in some cases, downright left wing ultra-socialist leanings. Whatever. We are supposedly being brainwashed.

First of all, let me be clear Fox is a major part of the MSM, so on that we agree. I also agree with you on the Trump Diarrhea Syndrome. All, including MSNBC, have totally committed to sucking his dick in Macy's window. No one has even tried to come up with a creative way on handling that bit of news. It is just that, a bit of news....so what!, he leads the polls......big fucking deal! What about the crowds that Bernie was getting. Out of an hour of news 50 minutes devoted to The Donald, 3 minutes to Bernie, and the remainder to Hilary's e-mail woes. No imagination!

Trump will soon be roadkill when the shit really gets heavy. I'm talking about the real debates between the 2 opposing factions: Dems and Repubs. It might happen even before that comes about. But I have read and watched people go ape-shit over the MSM and how "they" control us poor Dems/Liberals, with propaganda, lies and such. Meanwhile Fox tells it like it is. HA!

Fox News is the only media outlet telling "us" the truth. But what really fries my eggs is how these people think that Fox is not a major player in the MSM. They not only swim against the stream, they zig-zag across the current; normally fabricating complete and utter distortions of what's left of the truth. Oftentimes completely making shit up. Cliven Bundy comes to mind. Don't get me started on his ignorant ass.

I'm in no way happy with the so-called liberal media, they do not get a pass from me, on a great many issues, but at least they make an effort at the truth. My main concern with them is how they easily are influenced by bright shiny objects, and rarely produce investigative reports that could mean something to the good people of this country. Unfortunately, all are influenced by Big Money across the board. Our news is always tinted, I can see that. BTW, I do watch Fox from time to time. Most times I HAVE to change the channel.

SGG

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Originally posted by RahlMaclaren:
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Originally posted by whozit:
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I keep hearing/reading about this MSM thing. Will somebody please explain to me just what that is?

I think I may know, but I want to be crystal clear about this in order to make my case. Anybody care to enlighten me? I find it fascinating.......MSM and the way of the world.

SGG

It means "Main stream media", or as I call it, "whores for the Democrat party."

And yet, they ALL ("liberal" and Faux alike) can't seem to shut up about Trump.

ShinyGG, The MSM are all of the biggest and popular media companies. The TV major networks: ABC, NBC, CBS, BBC; and the cable channels: CNN, MSNBC, Faux News. Most of these have their radio counterparts. Then, there's PBS and NPR for the slightly more enlightened crowd.

So, what is this "case" you're wanting to make? I'm intrigued.

Find here the Serenity you seek. -Tara Maclay

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Friday, October 2, 2015 8:01 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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It means "Main stream media", or as I call it, "whores for the Democrat party."

Oh, you mean all of those TV channels ... owned by HUGE conservative conglomerates like General Electric, Walt Disney, FOX, Time Warner, and Viacom .... are actually left-wing shills for the Democratic Party???

Let me think about tha .....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Ok, let me think about that some more...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/07/who-owns-what-on-television/

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Saturday, October 3, 2015 12:59 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

"... some folk think that MSM supports particular points of view or tries to influence the masses with their subliminal messages of liberal thinking and, in some cases, downright left wing ultra-socialist leanings. Whatever. We are supposedly being brainwashed."

We are. Being brainwashed, I mean.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-02/theyre-hopping-mad-us-and-sau
di-arabia-russian-strikes-syria-spark-epic-western-medi

There is no ambiguity now about Russia's current tactics in Syria -- they are seeking to take over the airspace in the region and be the agenda-setting force on the ground, several senior administration officials told CNN.

"Yesterday's demarche to the U.S. by Russian officials in Baghdad was clear in its intent," one senior administration official said. "Make sure you don't have anyone around ISIS targets and get out of the air."

And while U.S. officials have no plans to cede Russia any ground, they also said it appears that Russian President Vladimir Putin made a dramatic chess move that the Russians have not thought through -- one official even called it a "strategic blunder."

Had the Russians been clear that they are providing support in Syria to prevent Syrian President Bashar al-Assad regime's collapse -- a scenario that would benefit ISIS -- they might have gotten some credit on the world stage. But their very first strikes in the region hit CIA-backed anti-Assad rebel forces, Arizona Republican John McCain, chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said Thursday on CNN's "New Day."

And U.S. officials note that every bomb against a non-ISIS Sunni target puts them more in bed with Iran and Hezbollah, which are Shiite. U.S. allies in the Persian Gulf warn that this could set off a huge sectarian conflict and that the deeper the Russians get into this, the harder officials believe it will be to get a diplomatic process with the Saudis and others restarted.

"It is going to be hugely tempting for the Saudis to start financing their guys again," another senior administration official said. "Syria will be a magnet for every jihadi, who will rush to fight the Russians, just like they did in Afghanistan. The problem is while this will cause problems for the Russians, it will also mean trouble for the Gulf, when the jihadists come home."

"The Russians can't be stupid," another senior administration official said. "This is going to be wildly expensive. And they can't hold out long. They know in the end there is no future for the guy (Assad) because the whole reason they had to come in is because Assad and his forces were extremely vulnerable. So we are hoping they will come to their senses, stabilize the situation and then we can agree on the Assad piece."

What is the MSM but shills for US government propaganda, or shills for conspiracy propaganda? Where's the investigation? Analysis of the information? Actual reporting, instead of parroting?

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Saturday, October 3, 2015 2:22 AM

EXACTLY!

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

These pillars of conservatism, these Captains of Industry who support, for the most part, the GOP in all it's glory, are going to secretly shill for the left and independent thinking, rather than herd the flock and sell soap by the truckload?

Allow me to quote that darling of the Well-to-do Set; Cher Horowitz, "AS IF!"

Modern-day translation: "You've got to be fucking kidding me. No way dude!"

I have a question for you Who Zit: How did thou comest to this peculiar form of thought? I hope that you didn't Rush to any conclusions!

SGG

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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It means "Main stream media", or as I call it, "whores for the Democrat party."
Oh, you mean all of those TV channels ... owned by HUGE conservative conglomerates like General Electric, Walt Disney, FOX, Time Warner, and Viacom .... are actually left-wing shills for the Democratic Party???

Let me think about tha .....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Ok, let me think about that some more...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/07/who-owns-what-on-television/

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

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Saturday, October 3, 2015 3:00 AM

Perhaps when my arthritis begins to ravage my body we can have a full blown discussion on it's merits, but No, not this MSM.

SGG

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
Methylsulfonylmethane ?

Other than that I have no idea what the hell you are talking about...

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Saturday, October 3, 2015 3:20 AM

Well, for one thing, this is SOP for news outlets. And I agree, there is a form of brainwashing that exists in media today. We are being programmed to consume. But what is your conclusion from the info you provide below? There are pockets, within our little brainwash system, of solid info that would be considered relevant info for us humans. You just have to know where to look.

A couple of months ago I saw a rather revealing documentary on HBO about an underground station somewhere deep in the Netherlands, whereby botanists are stockpiling seeds for future growth. Their concern, that the Earth is being systematically raped by a conglomerate named Monsanto. This vault holds thousands upon millions of seeds to be replanted if the unimaginable happens. I recently, about a week ago, saw a segment about this self-same underground vault (sans the Monsanto involvement) on an MSNBC, the Rachel Maddow Show. It lasted about 3 minutes. So yes, there is manipulation and unevenness, and hypocrisy. But those tawdry attributes are not exclusive to one side; it is an equal opportunity defiler.

BTW, perhaps the U.S. wanted Putin to make a move in Syria. Just a thought.

SGG

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
"... some folk think that MSM supports particular points of view or tries to influence the masses with their subliminal messages of liberal thinking and, in some cases, downright left wing ultra-socialist leanings. Whatever. We are supposedly being brainwashed."

We are. Being brainwashed, I mean.

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Saturday, October 3, 2015 4:21 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

"But what is your conclusion from the info you provide below?"

If I was a lot smarter I'd have one ... I'd be able to step outside of all the machinations and say "so you see, THIS is what's going on ..." But I only see bits and pieces.

One of the things I see clearly is that our narrative is repeated over and over till we mistake it for reality. People are like this. Our system is the natural expression of human nature. Because of that we can look at something different but it looks the same to us, or not see the familiar as foreign and destructive.

So we can look at shows about African pastoralists and not understand they live in a different headspace from us with thoughts coming at the calm pace of a steady heartbeat; operating on a different set of assumptions, chains of cause and effect, and envisioned futures.

And we can go to a mall and not see that it's a tenuous expression of a complicated and wholly artificial set of kluged mechanisms barely holding together.

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Saturday, October 3, 2015 4:59 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Among other things, one of the deep abiding messages of the MSM is that "happiness" is a state that we should all aspire to, and that "happiness" is obtained by matching our activities and ourselves with all of the images that the MSM puts before us: popularity, beauty, youth, attractiveness, sex, food, drink, wealth, and all of the individual pursuits that we're shown (over and over) as being worthwhile.

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Saturday, October 3, 2015 9:47 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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It means "Main stream media", or as I call it, "whores for the Democrat party."
Oh, you mean all of those TV channels ... owned by HUGE conservative conglomerates like General Electric, Walt Disney, FOX, Time Warner, and Viacom .... are actually left-wing shills for the Democratic Party???

Let me think about tha .....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Ok, let me think about that some more...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/07/who-owns-what-on-television/

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

Yo Siggy, did ya know that the suits at Disney, NBC/U, Time Warner,
DreamWorks, Lionsgate and many of the suits at 20th Century FOX are huge donors to the DNC? DID YA KNOW THAT!? Buy the way, GE no longer owns NBC/U, Comcast does, and Comcast's CEO is an often golf buddy of Obama's, DID YA KNOW THAT!? FACT, most of the CEO's and the execs of entertainment companys are libs who give mega $ to the Dems. The conservative Murdock family may own 20th Century FOX, but the film and TV divisions are run by libs that donate $ to the DNC. And you if think I'm making this crap up CHECK FOR YOURSELF!!!

That article you posted is from 2008, a lot of shit has changed since then.

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Saturday, October 3, 2015 12:14 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Yo Siggy, did ya know that the suits at Disney, NBC/U, Time Warner, DreamWorks, Lionsgate and many of the suits at 20th Century FOX are huge donors to the DNC?

Cite? Also, figures for how much they donate to the RNC AND to 'dark money' unfettered since Citizens United.

I'm betting you won't show up with facts.

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Saturday, October 3, 2015 1:31 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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Oh, you mean all of those TV channels ... owned by HUGE conservative conglomerates like General Electric, Walt Disney, FOX, Time Warner, and Viacom .... are actually left-wing shills for the Democratic Party???

But what makes you think that just because a corporation donates to the Dems that it makes it left-wing, or that the Dems are left-wing?

Why do you suppose that Obozo is pushing so hard for TTIP- a yet-another people-crushing "free-trade" agreement of the Pacific? Do you suppose that has to do with TTIP's provisions to protect "intellectual property" ... i.e. movies, music, software ... that the media makes a lot of $$$ on? Seems like the corporate agenda and the Democratic agenda are the same, as far as "the media" is concerned!

I can point to a many Obama (Hillary, Democratic party) policies that are decidedly pro-corporate/ undemocratic, like Obama jailing more whistle-blowers than all other Presidents combined, or pushing GMOs all over the world via more soul-crushing "free trade" agreements, or continuing the neocon policies of military intervention pretty much everywhere, or shoving people into the maw of private health insurers with a big sweetener of a government mandate and government money. Hmm... sounds pretty Republican to me!

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Saturday, October 3, 2015 1:33 PM

JO753

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SGG:

Fox iz not part uv the main stream media. They are purely a propaganda outlet.
Any actual newz they report iz only there az window dressing.

Big duz not = main stream.

Microsoft coud start a cable 'news' station tomorow and eventually sekseed in beating everybody elsez ratingz, but if everything prezented iz intended to promote Microsoft, its not real.

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Saturday, October 3, 2015 2:12 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yo Siggy, did ya know that the suits at Disney, NBC/U, Time Warner,
DreamWorks, Lionsgate and many of the suits at 20th Century FOX are huge donors to the DNC? DID YA KNOW THAT!? Buy the way, GE no longer owns NBC/U, Comcast does, and Comcast's CEO is an often golf buddy of Obama's, DID YA KNOW THAT!? FACT, most of the CEO's and the execs of entertainment companys are libs who give mega $ to the Dems. The conservative Murdock family may own 20th Century FOX, but the film and TV divisions are run by libs that donate $ to the DNC. And you if think I'm making this crap up CHECK FOR YOURSELF!!!

Links please. It's easy to find out what the corporations donated, but please provide a list for what "the suits" donated.

OK, updated list of ownership in 2014, in order to revenues (largest to smallest)
Comcast, Disney, News Corp (Fox), Time Warner, Viacom, and CBS.

COMCAST: donated almost exactly the same amount to Dems and Repubs, and about 80% to incumbents rather than challengers
https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/toprecips.php?id=D000000461&cycle
=2014

DISNEY: DreamWorks is part of Disney. Donated about 75% to Dems and 25% to Repubs.
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/toprecips.php?id=d000000128&cycle=
2014

NEWS CORP: Like Comcast, Newscorp donates almost exactly the same to both parties, and about 87% to incumbents
https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/toprecips.php?id=D000000227&cycle
=2014

TIME WARNER: About 75% to Dems, 25% to Repubs
https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/toprecips.php?id=D000000094&cycle
=2014

VIACOM: Curiously, I can't seem to dig out comparative info in Viacom

Same thing with CBS- stats not available. It looks like they donate thru subsidiaries instead of the parent corporation.

So as far as donations to political parties - yep, the media either donates the same to both parties or favors Dems.

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Oh, you mean all of those TV channels ... owned by HUGE conservative conglomerates like General Electric, Walt Disney, FOX, Time Warner, and Viacom .... are actually left-wing shills for the Democratic Party???

But what makes you think that just because a corporation donates to the Dems that it makes it left-wing, or that the Dems are left-wing?

Why do you suppose that Obozo is pushing so hard for TTIP- a yet-another people-crushing "free-trade" agreement of the Pacific? Do you suppose that has to do with TTIP's provisions to protect "intellectual property" ... i.e. movies, music, software ... that the media makes a lot of $$$ on? Seems like the corporate agenda and the Democratic agenda are the same, as far as "the media" is concerned!

I can point to a many Obama (Hillary, Democratic party) policies that are decidedly pro-corporate/ undemocratic, like Obama jailing more whistle-blowers than all other Presidents combined, or pushing GMOs all over the world via more soul-crushing "free trade" agreements, or continuing the neocon policies of military intervention pretty much everywhere, or shoving people into the maw of private health insurers with a big sweetener of a government mandate and government money. Hmm... sounds pretty Republican to me!

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

Go to the entertainment sites, http://www.deadline.com covers the entertainment suits and the Dems they throw money at. Go to the site and check their archives. Plus all you have to do is google "democrat fund raisers in Hollywood", Hillary was there this month, it was hosted by the CEO of Disney and other studio suits in the entertainment biz. You clowns claim to be smarter than me, then find this shit yourselves, I did and I'm a big fat dumby head.

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Saturday, October 3, 2015 2:25 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Yo Siggy, did ya know that the suits at Disney, NBC/U, Time Warner, DreamWorks, Lionsgate and many of the suits at 20th Century FOX are huge donors to the DNC?

Cite? Also, figures for how much they donate to the RNC AND to 'dark money' unfettered since Citizens United.

I'm betting you won't show up with facts.

MOST $ from Hollywood goes to the Dems, what are you bitching about? That's good right? Most $ from the studios and actors and actresses go to Dems, be happy!

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Saturday, October 3, 2015 5:29 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

MOST $ from Hollywood goes to the Dems, what are you bitching about? That's good right? Most $ from the studios and actors and actresses go to Dems, be happy

You WERE talking about 'the suits' - were you not? Not 'most money'? Not actors and actresses?

That WAS what you mentioned here, was it not? covers the entertainment suits and the Dems they throw money at ... it was hosted by the CEO of Disney and other studio suits in the entertainment biz.

As for this (and more mention of 'suits'): Yo Siggy, did ya know that the suits at Disney, NBC/U, Time Warner, DreamWorks, Lionsgate and many of the suits at 20th Century FOX are huge donors to the DNC? DID YA KNOW THAT!? Buy the way, GE no longer owns NBC/U, Comcast does, and Comcast's CEO is an often golf buddy of Obama's, DID YA KNOW THAT!? FACT, most of the CEO's and the execs of entertainment companys are libs who give mega $ to the Dems. The conservative Murdock family may own 20th Century FOX, but the film and TV divisions are run by libs that donate $ to the DNC. And you if think I'm making this crap up CHECK FOR YOURSELF!!!
http://www.deadline.com

Uh ... your 'entertainment' site doesn't reference anything you seem to be posting about.

As for 'the suits' you're talking about - do you mean CEOs? Presidents? Board members? Major stockholders? And - can you name the names of the people you mean so we can all go and look it up for ourselves?

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Saturday, October 3, 2015 8:42 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:

MOST $ from Hollywood goes to the Dems, what are you bitching about? That's good right? Most $ from the studios and actors and actresses go to Dems, be happy

You WERE talking about 'the suits' - were you not? Not 'most money'? Not actors and actresses?

That WAS what you mentioned here, was it not? covers the entertainment suits and the Dems they throw money at ... it was hosted by the CEO of Disney and other studio suits in the entertainment biz.

As for this (and more mention of 'suits'): Yo Siggy, did ya know that the suits at Disney, NBC/U, Time Warner, DreamWorks, Lionsgate and many of the suits at 20th Century FOX are huge donors to the DNC? DID YA KNOW THAT!? Buy the way, GE no longer owns NBC/U, Comcast does, and Comcast's CEO is an often golf buddy of Obama's, DID YA KNOW THAT!? FACT, most of the CEO's and the execs of entertainment companys are libs who give mega $ to the Dems. The conservative Murdock family may own 20th Century FOX, but the film and TV divisions are run by libs that donate $ to the DNC. And you if think I'm making this crap up CHECK FOR YOURSELF!!!
http://www.deadline.com

Uh ... your 'entertainment' site doesn't reference anything you seem to be posting about.

As for 'the suits' you're talking about - do you mean CEOs? Presidents? Board members? Major stockholders? And - can you name the names of the people you mean so we can all go and look it up for ourselves?

I'm giving you home work, find this out for yourselve. No morfe links.

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Saturday, October 3, 2015 8:42 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:

MOST $ from Hollywood goes to the Dems, what are you bitching about? That's good right? Most $ from the studios and actors and actresses go to Dems, be happy

You WERE talking about 'the suits' - were you not? Not 'most money'? Not actors and actresses?

That WAS what you mentioned here, was it not? covers the entertainment suits and the Dems they throw money at ... it was hosted by the CEO of Disney and other studio suits in the entertainment biz.

As for this (and more mention of 'suits'): Yo Siggy, did ya know that the suits at Disney, NBC/U, Time Warner, DreamWorks, Lionsgate and many of the suits at 20th Century FOX are huge donors to the DNC? DID YA KNOW THAT!? Buy the way, GE no longer owns NBC/U, Comcast does, and Comcast's CEO is an often golf buddy of Obama's, DID YA KNOW THAT!? FACT, most of the CEO's and the execs of entertainment companys are libs who give mega $ to the Dems. The conservative Murdock family may own 20th Century FOX, but the film and TV divisions are run by libs that donate $ to the DNC. And you if think I'm making this crap up CHECK FOR YOURSELF!!!
http://www.deadline.com

Uh ... your 'entertainment' site doesn't reference anything you seem to be posting about.

As for 'the suits' you're talking about - do you mean CEOs? Presidents? Board members? Major stockholders? And - can you name the names of the people you mean so we can all go and look it up for ourselves?

I'm giving you home work, find this out for yourselve. No morfe links.

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Sunday, October 4, 2015 12:18 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

"I'm betting you won't show up with facts."

And I won!

What I'm guessing is that you heard 'something' from a conservative mouthpiece, which convinced you that 'learned' 'something', but all that 'information' was just so much hollow bloviating. When asked to discuss your claim in detail, with substance, well, you bailed. As I predicted you would.

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Sunday, October 4, 2015 12:22 AM

JO753

rezident owtsidr

Whozit.

The donationz are petty cash; about 260,000$ to each party for Fox. A fraction uv the salary for any uv their prime time hosts.

Consider that the 2,000,000,000$ revenue for FCGP (Fox Cable GoP Propaganda) reprezents how much the airtime iz worth, they 'donated' 7,692 timez az much to the republicanz than the democrats.
http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/418038/most-profitable-nam
e-news-jim-geraghty

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Monday, October 5, 2015 5:35 AM

If it's owned by a major corporation, it's Main Stream Media. Faux is owned by Fox News Corp. Rupert Murdock, the Media Mogul, owns it and a few other little media interests around the Globe.

Oh it's mainstream alright.

SGG

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Originally posted by JO753:
SGG:

Fox iz not part uv the main stream media. They are purely a propaganda outlet.
Any actual newz they report iz only there az window dressing.

Big duz not = main stream.

Microsoft coud start a cable 'news' station tomorow and eventually sekseed in beating everybody elsez ratingz, but if everything prezented iz intended to promote Microsoft, its not real.

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Monday, October 5, 2015 5:55 AM

Everything you see on TV is MSM regardless, and they all contribute varying amounts of major coin to the 2 major political parties. Why? To hedge their bets and play with House Money, why else?

If the Repubs win, then they lobby them for favorable laws that will give them a competitive edge and allow them to continue providing "service" to the masses. Same thing goes if the Dems win. It's just good business. So don't believe the hype, Rush isn't really a man of the people. He's just another Schmoe in line with his hand out ready for greasing.

We Won't Get Fooled Again, The Who

I'll move myself and my family aside
If we happen to be left half alive
I'll get all my papers and smile at the sky
Though I know that the hypnotized never lie
Do ya?

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss

SGG

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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It means "Main stream media", or as I call it, "whores for the Democrat party."
Oh, you mean all of those TV channels ... owned by HUGE conservative conglomerates like General Electric, Walt Disney, FOX, Time Warner, and Viacom .... are actually left-wing shills for the Democratic Party???

Let me think about tha .....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Ok, let me think about that some more...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/07/who-owns-what-on-television/

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

Yo Siggy, did ya know that the suits at Disney, NBC/U, Time Warner,
DreamWorks, Lionsgate and many of the suits at 20th Century FOX are huge donors to the DNC? DID YA KNOW THAT!? Buy the way, GE no longer owns NBC/U, Comcast does, and Comcast's CEO is an often golf buddy of Obama's, DID YA KNOW THAT!? FACT, most of the CEO's and the execs of entertainment companys are libs who give mega $ to the Dems. The conservative Murdock family may own 20th Century FOX, but the film and TV divisions are run by libs that donate $ to the DNC. And you if think I'm making this crap up CHECK FOR YOURSELF!!!

That article you posted is from 2008, a lot of shit has changed since then.

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Monday, October 5, 2015 6:23 AM

Correctomondo!

Advertising, otherwise known as propaganda, looks to appeal to our consumer side by giving us what we want to hear and see. But they also throw in varying forms of persuasion to get us to buy that "new and improved" bar of soap.

Scott Tissue shows us that they still have 1000 sheets, but little do they tell you that it is now single ply (for example). The shows are meant to entertain and occupy our spare time, so we don't have time to organize for change and a better life. Americans have settled for the "dumbing down" of our kids, and ourselves. Look at the guy who wanted to raise the price of an HIV drug by more than 1000%. Social media, the power of the people, turn that shit around, but quick!

I could go on but I know I'm preaching to the choir. Drugs, Food, Beauty products, etc. all part of the larger picture. Even the so-called MSM argument is all a grand scheme to keep "we, the people" from really getting together and confronting the real enemy. The rather obvious and ridiculously blunt obstruction of the president comes to mind. The GOP candidates are a joke. You could see the wretched obvious pandering to the Tea Party and Ultra conservatives, i.e: Trump carrying a Bible and proclaiming his undying love for it. WHAT A CROCK!

SGG

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Among other things, one of the deep abiding messages of the MSM is that "happiness" is a state that we should all aspire to, and that "happiness" is obtained by matching our activities and ourselves with all of the images that the MSM puts before us: popularity, beauty, youth, attractiveness, sex, food, drink, wealth, and all of the individual pursuits that we're shown (over and over) as being worthwhile.

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Monday, October 5, 2015 6:38 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Everything you see on TV is MSM regardless, and they all contribute varying amounts of major coin to the 2 major political parties. Why? To hedge their bets and play with House Money, why else?

If the Repubs win, then they lobby them for favorable laws that will give them a competitive edge and allow them to continue providing "service" to the masses. Same thing goes if the Dems win. It's just good business.

Do you remember TV news Dan Rather being fired for offending the Republicans? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Rather#Lawsuit

The MSM knows that it is best being approximately halfway between the political extremes. That is a safe place to make money and offend the fewest powerful politicians. The managers of MSM want to remain eligible when, eventually, the politicians are giving out special favors.

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Monday, October 5, 2015 8:54 AM